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Listeners are praised for the courage required to share a fantasy show they initially hoard as secret sauce. The hosts note the difficulty of building a business nobody recommends, compare that structure to the FBI, and say outsiders assume fantasy podcasting is either unemployment or a cover story.
Dalvin Cook's release makes Mike officially uncontainable and inspires a horse-versus-straitjacket restraint plan. Mike says he has loved underground champion Alexander Mattison since entry into the league, ranks him far above the other hosts, and watches years of holding turn into a hockey-stick chart. Brooks has no shares, the ship is empty except for Mike, and the five-year third-round rookie pick is declared triumphant with Michael Turner as precedent. Pittman later inherits the vacated forever-wait slot.
The desk tries to compare Jordan Addison and Alexander Mattison, but 'Addison or Mattison' becomes 'add Addison or add Mattison' and finally the impossible statement that Mattison should be added behind Mattison before Addison is placed behind him.
A possible Miami committee creates the invented word scatterusky and uncertainty over whether it means scat back or a poop joke. The larger danger is rendered physically: Dalvin Cook, DeAndre Hopkins, and to a lesser degree Ezekiel Elliott are fantasy-football warheads waiting to drop onto a backfield or receiver room.
The 'check yourself before you wreck yourself' cue opens an ADP guessing game. The hosts estimate player draft slots before Brooks reveals the actual number, and they decide his voice creates more suspense than a host revealing it directly.
Brooksie's off-brand 'oh yeah' invokes the Kool-Aid trademark and the prospect of legal papers. The hosts decide the Kool-Aid Man is the ideal summons server because he arrives through brick walls, credit his indestructible pitcher, and land a tempered-glass joke that is confirmed to make the Owl laugh.
Travis Etienne looks shot out of a cannon with the ball, but contact repeatedly sends him flying backward five yards. The hosts describe his ragdoll physics as very high and remember that the visual produced the not-very-nice 'work pony' label earlier in his career.
While looking for a Michael Pittman drop, the soundboard instead plays 'Hey, everybody.' Accepted canon elsewhere identifies that phrase as Brooks's first studio words, but this episode does not identify the archived speaker and therefore leaves the voice unlabeled here; the hosts then name Pittman as Mattison's replacement in the forever-wait role on Mike's rosters.
An unlabeled desk guess puts Pittman at wide receiver 24, while Jason is explicitly credited with 6.03; Brooks reveals 6.01 and wide receiver 25. Jason is then credited by the direct applause prompt after the Dotson guess exactly calls 8.09 and wide receiver 37. An unidentified host—not specifically Jason—says doing this full time makes the desk kind of the best.
During the Michael Pittman segment, an unidentified host asks why his picture is on screen and whether the show is back in Pity City. Another unlabeled voice rejects that graphic and explicitly sends the picture back to Mike.
An unidentified host is called Sam Howell's sole supporter—first on the show, then perhaps west of the Mississippi, and finally west of Howell's mother's house. The same unidentified supporter insists he wants Howell both to win the job and to be good enough to deserve it rather than inherit it by default.
The hosts thank listeners brave enough to share a show they once treated as secret sauce, then joke that building a business nobody tells others about makes them look unemployed or like FBI spies using fantasy football as a cover. Dalvin Cook's release makes Mike so uncontainable that the produced opening treats his behavior as an exhibit and the desk shops for a restraint, briefly confusing a straitjacket with buying a horse; the transcript explicitly says Jason derailed the restraint discussion with the horse joke. The episode is a major Mike player-loyalty payoff: he celebrates Alexander Mattison as an underground champion after years of holding the stock, ranks him far above the other hosts, hears his portfolio described as finally forming a hockey stick, confirms through Brooks that he is the only person aboard the empty Mattison ship, and calls the five-year wait his triumphant best third-round rookie pick ever. Michael Turner is invoked as the ancient precedent, then Michael Pittman is assigned Mattison's vacated permanent-wait role later in the show. The names Addison and Mattison become a rapid tongue-twister during a question directly put to Jason about whom to add behind whom. Dalvin Cook's landing uncertainty creates scat-back versus poop ambiguity and turns Cook, DeAndre Hopkins, and Ezekiel Elliott into fantasy warheads trembling over backfields and receiver rooms. Brooks works throughout the episode: his quick question is threatened with the garbage, he answers as the Judge and Brooksie, reveals ADPs to improve suspense, and is pushed beyond his habitual 'oh yeah.' An Owl reaction is acknowledged during a tangent in which the Kool-Aid Man becomes the best legal-process server because he delivers a summons through brick walls; his glass body is judged strongly tempered. The Price Check ritual begins with the 'check yourself before you wreck yourself' cue and asks the hosts to guess player ADPs before Brooks reveals them. Travis Etienne's explosive speed and tendency to fly backward on contact revive the old 'work pony' label and high ragdoll physics. During the Pittman segment, an unidentified host asks why his picture has returned and whether they are back in Pity City before the graphic is sent to Mike. A wrong soundboard button then produces 'Hey, everybody'—a phrase established elsewhere in accepted canon as Brooks's first studio words, though this episode does not identify the archived voice—and Pittman replaces Mattison on Mike's forever-wait roster. Jason's explicit 6.03 Pittman slot lands near Brooks's 6.01 reveal; an unlabeled receiver-rank guess is also close. Jason then exactly calls Jahan Dotson at 8.09 and WR37 and is told to applaud himself, while an unidentified desk voice calls the full-time hosts kind of the best. Finally, an unidentified host is teased as perhaps the sole Sam Howell supporter west of Howell's mother's house and insists he wants Howell both to win the job and to be good.
All right, you're going to want to watch this episode, not just because it's a good episode, but because Mike Wright cannot be contained in this episode. Something very big has happened in the recent history, and we're going to observe his behavior and watch what he does. Enjoy. The Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. Tuesday, June 13th, the fantasy footballers.
Jason Moore, Mike Wright, Andy Holloway, back with you yet again. Appreciate each and every one of you joining the show. Appreciate those of you with the courage to share this show with others. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. It's very brave. The fortitude to accept that challenge. It takes a couple years, and I understand that. Because at first we're like, you know, a secret sauce. Like, oh. But then eventually you're like, have you tried this? I like that. You ever tried building a business around something? Nobody wants to tell anybody else about. Yes, we have. Yeah, the FBI did. Okay, all right. I don't know. If we were government funded, we'd be fine. And then we would be spies. That'd be really cool. I would love to not be able to tell people what I do. It's like the story of the... When we tell people what we do right now...
They assume it's a cover for being in the FBI. There's no way that they think. Well, they say, oh, so you're unemployed. Yeah, they do. You had the guy, well, Chuck Barris, like back in the 60s was, like, involved with all these game shows. And then he, like, he was a FBI guy? Well, he claimed that he, he claimed he was a spy for years and years and years. I think eventually he said it was, it was a lie. But how can you trust that? Yeah, I don't know. That sounds like something who a spy who was no longer a spy would say. Well, thanks for joining us. Thanks for following the show. At least if you don't want to tell others what you can do, as you can click follow on Spotify on Apple Podcasts. Help us out in the ranks, the charts and all that stuff. Leave us a review. We appreciate you. It's fun to have you on board. The Foot Clan is mighty and strong.
We're excited to have you with us for another episode today. Quite a bit to talk about. I'll try to just hold Mike back. We actually bought a, what do they call that? Horse. No. We bought a horse? I was excited. I wasn't sure what we bought, but it seemed like it might have been a horse. It wasn't a horse, Jason. All right. I'm going to make a note, though. What else did you think we might have bought? By horse. I mean, not that Mike wouldn't. just ride around on a horse with the Madison news. Yeah. But I was just saying like what do they put on people in the insane asylums? Straight jacket? That's it. Slightly different than a horse. We're going to get into Madison and Dalvin Cook. You were going to a straight jacket and Jason derailed it with a horse joke. Yeah, that's where we're at. Here's a heads up right here at the top because we're going to talk about news today. We're pre-recording this show.
So this episode, Thursday's episode, a little bit pre-recorded. It's a vacation week with our families. So we're getting in here. We didn't want to miss any episodes. We wanted you to see our beautiful faces. But if big news breaks, you're not going to get it today. Well, I mean, thankfully one of the things broke. Yeah, that would have been bad to happen while you were gone, Mike. So we'll talk about that momentarily. We do have a special giveaway. We just gave away a sign Justin Jefferson Jersey. We're giving away a sign Garrett Wilson, Jersey. And you can learn about how to enter over at footclan giveaway.com doing something a little different with this giveaway. Have a chance to share something that you love about the UDK, a story about using the UDK, or maybe telling tale of the championships that you've, you know, the trophies you've been carrying around due to.
using it and maybe kick-in-butt at draft time. So footclaim giveaway.com for all the details, free to enter over there, signed Garrett Wilson, Jersey. All right, before the news. Oh, come on. Brooks has a quick question. Yeah. Put this quick question in the garbage. We got stuffed. Do you want to skip it? No, I want to see Mike suffer. Hold. Hold. It was a simple one, Mike. You can answer it as quickly as you want. Okay. Is there an offense out there that you think could make the largest points per game increase in 2023? Okay, the New Orleans Saints. Jason, go. By the way, last year's biggest jumps were Jacksonville at number one, a nine point difference from 2021 to 2022. Detroit was second, seven and a half point difference. The Giants, six point difference. Miami, 3.7. I actually was surprised that that was so low. Philadelphia at 3.6.
all teams that had great success making that jump. Mike's team is the Saints. Yeah, so I'll talk about it real quick. There's, I think, some other, you know, more likely teams that these guys are going to talk about. But, like, I'm, I'm pretty excited here for the Saints. I think that I do believe Derek Carr is a big upgrade over Andy Dalton. As of now. which we've said this, I don't know how many years in a row, but as of now, Michael Thomas looks like he will be back. Good to go. I am very, very bullish on Chris Olavay taking another step. Hyped train season, of course, but all camp news has been very, very positive about Chris Oliva, looking like he has leveled up already from his fantastic rookie season, which was...
right next to Garrett Wilson in terms of production, but Olave did miss a few games. So I think that they can take a step up, one, because the offense was so, it wasn't great last year. Putrid? Yeah, I mean, I don't remember the exact numbers for them off the top of my head, but I think that they can be much, much better with this quarterback, with the wide receiver core and the weapons that they have available. So I'm excited to see what they can do. I'm not saying the Saints are, taking the leap to win the division or anything like that with Dennis Allen at the helm. But I think they are an offense that could be being undervalued a bit in drafts right now. Fourth worst last year? Is that what they were? I don't know. They had a drop two points per game between 2021 and 2022. Yeah. They were under 20 points a game. I'll take the quick layup. It's the Jets. I mean, this is not a hard one to figure out. 29th in the NFL last year was 17.4.
Points per game, maybe shocking to some because they were competing in a lot of games. Their points per game went down last year compared to a very bad 2021. Injuries to Breece Hall, quarterback problems. Garrett Wilson couldn't do it all despite being the offensive rookie of the year. So the Jets, it's low-hanging fruit. But Aaron Rogers, Garrett Wilson, Alan Lazard, the return of Breeze Hall. This is a team that should be in the top five in terms of points per game jump. Yeah, I think that this is probably the odds on favorite for the largest jump this year because of everything you mentioned. I'm going to go with the Baltimore Ravens. I think that, you know, you had Lamar Jackson lost last year. But in addition to that, Todd Monkin coming over as the new OC adding offensive weapons to the receiving game, I think this team is going to play faster and just the fact that you go from an injured Lamar to a healthy Lamar.
The Baltimore Ravens should be great. And I want to throw one other team out. I don't think they'll have the biggest jump necessarily. But for fantasy purposes, this is a team that almost for sure will have a significant jump. They'll go from like 26th to, you know, middle of the pack. And that's the division mates of the Ravens, the Pittsburgh Steelers. I believe Kenny Pickett will, I believe he couldn't repeat the. the amount of touchdowns thrown per past him. I mean, it would be almost impossible for him to repeat that level of touchdown percentage. They wouldn't, I mean, they wouldn't let him get there. Exactly. You can't repeat it from the bench. They've made massive improvements to their offensive line. And I, for fantasy football purposes, I think that this is one of those teams that makes the biggest impact. Because they were bad last year, people.
People were high on Deontay Johnson last year, high on Najee last year. And they all disappointed. And so this year they're not being drafted high. They're being drafted thinking that, well, the Steelers are a bad offense. And I think they're going to be an average offense. So I see them as values. I will say you were very anti-Diante and we were all very anti-naji last year. The part of our Big Ben was at least a sign that things might be troublesome. But you're right. It was as bad as it gets, so there's an opportunity there. 18.1 points per game. Not a good. All right, Mike. News and notes from around the league. Like I said, we're recording this early. So for us, this is breaking news. The Vikings have informed Dalvin Cook of his impending release. Yes. So for every opportunity, there is an opportunity cost. Dalvin Cook will be moving on. He will be finding a new team. However.
It's Alexander Madison time, baby. We made it, everybody. We made it. Oh, we made it. We're many years into this process. We've been holding on. We've been holding on to our underground champion, knowing that when he gets the opportunity, he comes through in a very, very big way. Now the opportunity is there. The writing was on the wall when they gave him the contract that had a decent amount of money for the running back position. He comes in. Look at what they did last year with Dalvin Cook. He was basically a workhorse running back. You saw Alexander Madison's attempts dialed back this past year. Is that because this is what the new coaching regime wants? You have O'Connell up there who came from the Sean McVeigh system, which McVeigh, when he has his guy, McVeigh is a one running back system as well. So I am very, very excited for what Alexander Madison can do.
He can catch passes. We've seen him essentially start six games. And in those six games, he has been truly a difference maker for the fantasy football running back position. And looking at the depth chart, we talked about it on the last show that Ty Chandler probably in line to be the backup. They did draft Dwayne McBride in the seventh round, who I like. I think that McBride is a very interesting. running back, but he was going to hurt through the process. Small school. Great production profile, but small school. So it will take, I think, a lot for him to come in and make some noise on the depth chart. So just looking at what they have right now, this team is moving forward. Madison is their guy. It's, and now it comes down to a question of what do you believe the talent level of Madison is. And that's where you should draft him because he's going to, he will skyrocket. If you haven't been drafting him with the
the rumor mill being really, really strong saying that Dalvin Cook won't be on this team. It's been an incredible discount in underdog tournaments because that's going, he'll shoot up, fourth, maybe even the third round. So I will now cede the floor in my excitement to where you guys are because I'm at the top. I love Alexander Madison. I've loved him since he came into the league. And I think now with this opportunity, he's going to be a difference maker. I mean, I'm not there. But he's going to be much, I mean, he's definitely a bargain in basketball where you had been drafted. It was a bet that you won. Mike has him at 16. I wanted to look at this because we updated our rankings this morning with the news. I got him at 26, Jason at 23. I believe he slid right ahead of like Somaget P. Ryan right now in my rankings at 26. My confidence in the talent of Alexander Madison is not.
maybe where Mike's is. I realize that he's been good when Cook has been gone. I'm not going to deny that. Yeah, you have five games with 20 plus rushing attempts for Alexander Madison in those games. 112 rushing yards, 113, 90, 95, 112, never averaging fewer than 4.1 carries in any of those games. Yeah, and it was a lot of volume. One thing I think is partially missed from that equation has been, you know, it was a Zimmer team. This is year five for Madison. He's played in 59 football games. He's had the last two years, well, not well below, but 3.7, 3.8 to carry. I might look at him more like when Joy Bell was thrust into a starting position. You know, it wasn't like we went into the soft season knowing that Alexander Madison was.
You know, everybody believes he's the guy that's going to start for the Vikings. He's the incumbent. He's the guy that's there. So do they bring another body in? I think it's possible. Sure. I think Madison fits more of the later RB2 realm with upside. Volume is tough. I think his career high and carries is 134. So when you go from 134 to where I think I have him at 220, I'm guessing Mike has him higher than that. Carry-wise, I don't know where you put him, Jason. I got him at 243 right now. 243. 224. Okay, so we're very similar in ranking in workload. Can he be efficient enough on 220 carries? Can he score enough touchdowns? If he does, you know, then we just found another running back that's meaningful for fantasy. Yeah. And I'm not trying to throw cold water. No, yeah. It's a huge victory for you in the, like this is the stock that you bought like four and a half years ago. Yeah. And everyone's been like, this is not one to have on.
Yeah. In your portfolio? And you're like, no, it's a whole. Kramer's been hitting sell, sell, sell for his voice buttons. And you held it and you held it and you held it and you held it and you held it. And then this morning it got the hockey stick. Yeah. I mean, these things don't usually pan out. And it did. So that's great. Alexander Madison is not as talented as Dalvin Cook, just period. So he's not going to be, he isn't going to be what Dalvin Cook was. I don't see him as an RB1. But this is a good offense. This offense is a bad defense. This is a guy who's thrust into a role where you assume even if it is a shared workload and it's not, you know, full true workhorse. Because obviously, David Cook was a was a true, you know, 70% snap type player. You know, if Alexander Madison is a 60% snap player, that's awesome. You want anyone, any NFL player at 60% as,
part of a good offense. That's going to be valuable for fantasy. I see him as a pretty solid running back too for fantasy purposes in that 13 to 24 range. And it's really just a matter of where does his ADP end up. If you're drafting now, it'll be a slower climb. Let's play a game briefly. Who's the bigger risk? Okay. I'm going to say it's Madison or. Okay. This is just risk. Just risk. Just like, because there's a bunch of players that you have a bet. You have to make a bet on at running back. We talked about them recently. Is Madison or Cam Acres a bigger risk? Acres. Acres. Okay. Is Alexander Madison or Rashad White a bigger risk? Is J.K. Dobbins or Alexander Madison a bigger risk? Madison. Yep. David Montgomery or Alexander Madison. Who's the bigger risk? Montgomery.
Madison. You don't risk. That's a matter of what it costs. I just feel like it doesn't, you're not risking a lot on me. Aaron Jones or Alexander Madison, who's the bigger risk? That one is close. They're back to back for me. He was the guy that I looked at in my rankings and I thought push comes to shove. Who do I think is going to be better this year? Aaron Jones or Alexander Madison, obviously going off of just risk. Just saying for fantasy purposes, you know, I see him about that tier. You know, you've got question marks with. out Aaron Rogers for Aaron Jones. And you've got question marks about Alexander Madison, but they're both going to get a lot of work. And the volume point is interesting. And I want to talk about Dalvin Cook's, what, prognosis, I guess. But last year, Dalvin Cook was a pro bowler. He was over 1100 yards on the ground. He joined, well, who's the Baltimore Ravens quarterback? I can't think of his name right now. Huntley. Is that who it was? Was Huntley?
What do you mean he joined him, though? In the Pro Bowl. Oh, I see. Yeah. If you make the Pro Bowl, we're bringing up. I'm just saying that Pro Bowl is not necessarily what it used to be. He had touchdowns at 53, 81. He had a 40-yard run. He had a 64-yard touchdown reception. Those are not areas that I believe Alexander Madison will be. And I would agree. So to me it comes down to can, I think it's a touched, a little bit more of a touchdown gamble than people may want to recognize. Madison, I think four touchdowns, eight touchdowns, totally different season for Madison. I would agree with you on that. But if I had to bet whether or not Alexander Madison can succeed in the touchdown game, I think he will. He had five touchdowns last year. Sure. You know, on only 74 carries. He's a 216 pound back. It's big enough to be used around the goal line. And like I said, good offense. And that was while Dalvin had eight rushing touchdowns. So, yeah, I think that the opportunity for.
you know, upside is certainly there for Madison. And for me, it's touchdowns and what does the target share look like? Because Dalvin Cook, that was the lowest target share of Dalvin Cook's career. He was down at 9%. So this, will Madison see 9 or 10% of the targets or will be more reflective of the new offense that we got last year? That's what I'm saying. They added Addison. Added Addison. Nice. They added Jordan Edison. But it's like there's a big difference if Madison sees 6% of the targets or closer to 10. That would be a wide swing for his fantasy. And simply because of I want the sound rolling off my tongue. Addison or Madison, Jason, Jason or Madison? Madison. I'll take, man, I love Addison. Do you want to add Addison or add Madison? I'll go Madison. Would you add Madison or?
I think I would add Madison behind Madison. I would add Addison behind Madison. Right. Okay. All right. Sure. And I guess we can mention the name in Wong Wu, who was also there at Minnesota. So like, Dway McBride was later, right? Yeah, he was a seventh rounder. So I'm just like, it sounds like it's going to be Ty Chandler. Speaking, so now Delvin Cook ends up being much like DeAndre Hopkins, a. still talented, probably not at peak player hitting the open market. Probably, you know, these players generally hit the market with an expectation of more money than they'll get. Because they believe, I mean, look, he's 1100 plus yards. I think in like six straight years or something like that for Cook. You have to. And Hopkins believes he's the best in the game still too. So both of those players might not land where you think they should land. Like, you know, I know Dalvin Cook would love to go to Buffalo. Sure. He wants to play with his brother.
Hopkins wanted to go to Buffalo. They're not interested in paying that kind of money. There are a ton of places that make sense. Miami's at the top of the list. The debt chart there for what they want to do. It's not impressive. The Broncos would be at the top of the list for me. Sure. I'm in of teams currently showing interest. But yeah, you're talking about for fantasy purposes? No, not just for fantasy. I mean, I think they need them. I think they could use them as a one-year player. Their money is a problem. I'm with you on the, Sean Payton's running game with Dalvin Cook and the only competition being P. Ryan and Giovante coming off of injury, I think that's his highest fantasy ceiling. A lot of people think Miami though, because they believe he'll have the majority of the work. And, you know, that's probably true. You're probably going to get 60% Dalvin Cook if he lands in Miami and then some scat, some scatterusky from.
Devon A-Cha. Oh, I wasn't sure if you were doing a scatback or a poop joke. I leave those to you. But there are other places that are interesting too. Is there anybody else on the list, a wish list for Dalvin Cook? Dallas has been brought up. Yeah, that would be Dallas. We're sitting there with the McCarthy wants to run the football and he's got Pollard dot dot dot and Ronald Jones. Yeah, it's the funny thing of fantasy football of everyone sitting who had. believed in Madison made the fantasy football investment to get him. Okay, everything is, like you said, the hockey stick has now gone way up. And now everyone else out in the NFL sits with their hands trembling just at least a little bit because you have no idea where Davao Cook is going to go. You have to imagine at some point over this off season, the Vikings went to him and said, hey, you want to stay here? Here's what we'll give you.
Like, you can take less money and stay here. And then Dalvin Cook likely said, no, I'm worth more money. I will bet on myself the same way that Ezekiel Elliott did for the Dallas Cowboys, which that is currently a bet. Yeah, he might go back to Dallas. That is not not cashing out for Elliott. Hopkins, Zeke to a degree, certainly Dalvin Cook. These are fantasy football warheads about to be dropped on to some backfield, some. some wide receiver room that are going to have massive implications. So, you know, whether we don't know as of this recording, if any of that's happened. But when it happens, it'll be impactful and we'll talk about it. All right. We are going, I think that's it for news today. Yes. How are you doing there, Judge? Doing great. Having a spectacular day. Oh, yeah. You got any, you got any Madison back there, Brooksie? No, I'm not having. Yeah. Only me. The only one left.
Look, look, before we move on, this ship is empty. I'm going to tell you, if there's a guy in your league like Mike, you trade him Alexander Madison today. Because that's it. You trade him? Sir, if there is a guy like me in your league, they already had Alexander Madison. You cannot trade them now. If you can trade Madison at his peak value, this is just a principle we bring up all the time. If you can trade him for what he hasn't proven. you don't lose the deal. Right. You automatically win the deal. He either delivers to the level that you traded him at because somebody like Mike who somehow doesn't have him. It's impossible. Impossible. It's your opportunity. This will be my triumphant best third round rookie pick of all time. It just took five years. Hey, hey.
Michael Turner took some time as well, my friend. That's fair. Michael Turner has been used as that example for 9, 10, 15 years. And I'm using him again. There's only one, the only reason Michael Turner is the only one that's brought up like that. Yeah, but now we can stop. If he's the only one that's ever done it. If Madison does well, who's, who's Turner? Yeah, that's right. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, I mean, if you, Mike's got so many years into this. All right, quick break back with the ADP price check. It's been a good morning for me. Good times. It's been a good morning for Mike. All right, let's do it. You better check yourself before you wreck yourself. Okay, it's time. We're going to play a little game of sorts while we break down where certain players are going in drafts. We talked on the last episode about the value of ADP, the average draft position in your league, where players are moving, where they're going in mock drafts, in real drafts soon enough.
and we're going to take a shot at guessing ADP for a number of players while we talk about them. Is that correct, Brooksie? Oh, yeah. Okay, that means yes. That's another way to say yes. Oh, yes. I realized I said, oh, yeah, earlier, and it fell off brand. No, that's felt great. I had to make up for it. That's a Kool-Aid thing. You don't want to, you don't want to trample on that trademark. You'll be hearing from the Kool-Aid man very soon. That's right. And he shows up. through walls. Yeah, I mean, you better be careful. He's not, he's actually one of the best people at giving you the. Oh, like the summons. The summons. You got served by the. There's nobody better than the Kool-Aid man to give you a summons. He doesn't just knock on. You just scared me so bad because I looked at the screen and I realize I'm sitting right in front of a brick wall and that is his favorite. Why? He goes through bricks more than anything else. I mean, it's just easy, I guess, to knock the safe out. Wasn't easy for the big bad wolf, but for him it's easy.
Well, because the wolf was, he huffed and he puffed. That's true. He didn't have a giant, indestructible shell. That's some strong glass for what it's worth. Very tempered. Yeah. Did I get owl to laugh on that one? You did. A good tempered glass joke. Yeah, man. Nothing like a tempered glass joke. Christian Watson, wide receiver for the Packers. Responsible for one of the most ridiculous touchdown runs that we've seen in recent history in the middle of last year. It runs very fast. Where do you think he's going? We have them ranked right now. Jason's the highest of 24. Don't mind it. I'm at 35. Mike at 38. I don't like my ranking. I think it's too low. I think he's, so I'm not sure exactly. Double down? Dobble? You're going to go on on him over Dobbs? Watson? Oh.
I did not know where that is. Yeah, that's. Boston. Oh, that one? Because we got other buttons. Yeah, the crickets. We got that. That's more appropriate. I forget how early it is. Yeah. I mean, yes, I would rather have Christian Watson than Dobbs. Oh, the Dobbs is getting hype train again. Give me the ADP. The AP. So this is all redraft ADP. It's not best ball. Okay. Where I think Christian Watson represents even a higher value. I think he's going to be right around where I have him ranked around. the wide receiver 24, which should put him in that fourth round, late fourth round. Whoa. That's spicy. I thought I was going to go, I'll go six round. I'll split the difference. I think late fifth. I think late fifth. He is, wow. Okay. Five 11. Late fifth. There I go. And ironically, it does match up with the wide receiver number. Jason was bringing up. Okay. So I was right on the wide receiver number and you were right on the round that that would relate to, Mike, your.