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Price Check + Mattison/Cook Fallout - Fantasy Football Podcast for 6/13

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Price Check + Mattison/Cook Fallout | Fantasy Football 2023 - Ep. 1411

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Episode notes & curated moments 12 records
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The secret sauce looks like an FBI cover

Listeners are praised for the courage required to share a fantasy show they initially hoard as secret sauce. The hosts note the difficulty of building a business nobody recommends, compare that structure to the FBI, and say outsiders assume fantasy podcasting is either unemployment or a cover story.

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Mike's five-year Mattison stock hockey-sticks

Dalvin Cook's release makes Mike officially uncontainable and inspires a horse-versus-straitjacket restraint plan. Mike says he has loved underground champion Alexander Mattison since entry into the league, ranks him far above the other hosts, and watches years of holding turn into a hockey-stick chart. Brooks has no shares, the ship is empty except for Mike, and the five-year third-round rookie pick is declared triumphant with Michael Turner as precedent. Pittman later inherits the vacated forever-wait slot.

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Add Addison behind Mattison

The desk tries to compare Jordan Addison and Alexander Mattison, but 'Addison or Mattison' becomes 'add Addison or add Mattison' and finally the impossible statement that Mattison should be added behind Mattison before Addison is placed behind him.

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Free-agent fantasy warheads hover over depth charts

A possible Miami committee creates the invented word scatterusky and uncertainty over whether it means scat back or a poop joke. The larger danger is rendered physically: Dalvin Cook, DeAndre Hopkins, and to a lesser degree Ezekiel Elliott are fantasy-football warheads waiting to drop onto a backfield or receiver room.

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Price Check asks Brooks for the reveal

The 'check yourself before you wreck yourself' cue opens an ADP guessing game. The hosts estimate player draft slots before Brooks reveals the actual number, and they decide his voice creates more suspense than a host revealing it directly.

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The Kool-Aid Man serves summons through walls

Brooksie's off-brand 'oh yeah' invokes the Kool-Aid trademark and the prospect of legal papers. The hosts decide the Kool-Aid Man is the ideal summons server because he arrives through brick walls, credit his indestructible pitcher, and land a tempered-glass joke that is confirmed to make the Owl laugh.

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Etienne is a cannon-fired work pony

Travis Etienne looks shot out of a cannon with the ball, but contact repeatedly sends him flying backward five yards. The hosts describe his ragdoll physics as very high and remember that the visual produced the not-very-nice 'work pony' label earlier in his career.

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Hey, everybody hits the wrong Pittman button

While looking for a Michael Pittman drop, the soundboard instead plays 'Hey, everybody.' Accepted canon elsewhere identifies that phrase as Brooks's first studio words, but this episode does not identify the archived speaker and therefore leaves the voice unlabeled here; the hosts then name Pittman as Mattison's replacement in the forever-wait role on Mike's rosters.

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Jason nearly nails Pittman's slot, then bullseyes Dotson

An unlabeled desk guess puts Pittman at wide receiver 24, while Jason is explicitly credited with 6.03; Brooks reveals 6.01 and wide receiver 25. Jason is then credited by the direct applause prompt after the Dotson guess exactly calls 8.09 and wide receiver 37. An unidentified host—not specifically Jason—says doing this full time makes the desk kind of the best.

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The Pittman graphic accidentally returns to Pity City

During the Michael Pittman segment, an unidentified host asks why his picture is on screen and whether the show is back in Pity City. Another unlabeled voice rejects that graphic and explicitly sends the picture back to Mike.

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Sam Howell's sole supporter lives west of his mom's house

An unidentified host is called Sam Howell's sole supporter—first on the show, then perhaps west of the Mississippi, and finally west of Howell's mother's house. The same unidentified supporter insists he wants Howell both to win the job and to be good enough to deserve it rather than inherit it by default.

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Episode notes

The hosts thank listeners brave enough to share a show they once treated as secret sauce, then joke that building a business nobody tells others about makes them look unemployed or like FBI spies using fantasy football as a cover. Dalvin Cook's release makes Mike so uncontainable that the produced opening treats his behavior as an exhibit and the desk shops for a restraint, briefly confusing a straitjacket with buying a horse; the transcript explicitly says Jason derailed the restraint discussion with the horse joke. The episode is a major Mike player-loyalty payoff: he celebrates Alexander Mattison as an underground champion after years of holding the stock, ranks him far above the other hosts, hears his portfolio described as finally forming a hockey stick, confirms through Brooks that he is the only person aboard the empty Mattison ship, and calls the five-year wait his triumphant best third-round rookie pick ever. Michael Turner is invoked as the ancient precedent, then Michael Pittman is assigned Mattison's vacated permanent-wait role later in the show. The names Addison and Mattison become a rapid tongue-twister during a question directly put to Jason about whom to add behind whom. Dalvin Cook's landing uncertainty creates scat-back versus poop ambiguity and turns Cook, DeAndre Hopkins, and Ezekiel Elliott into fantasy warheads trembling over backfields and receiver rooms. Brooks works throughout the episode: his quick question is threatened with the garbage, he answers as the Judge and Brooksie, reveals ADPs to improve suspense, and is pushed beyond his habitual 'oh yeah.' An Owl reaction is acknowledged during a tangent in which the Kool-Aid Man becomes the best legal-process server because he delivers a summons through brick walls; his glass body is judged strongly tempered. The Price Check ritual begins with the 'check yourself before you wreck yourself' cue and asks the hosts to guess player ADPs before Brooks reveals them. Travis Etienne's explosive speed and tendency to fly backward on contact revive the old 'work pony' label and high ragdoll physics. During the Pittman segment, an unidentified host asks why his picture has returned and whether they are back in Pity City before the graphic is sent to Mike. A wrong soundboard button then produces 'Hey, everybody'—a phrase established elsewhere in accepted canon as Brooks's first studio words, though this episode does not identify the archived voice—and Pittman replaces Mattison on Mike's forever-wait roster. Jason's explicit 6.03 Pittman slot lands near Brooks's 6.01 reveal; an unlabeled receiver-rank guess is also close. Jason then exactly calls Jahan Dotson at 8.09 and WR37 and is told to applaud himself, while an unidentified desk voice calls the full-time hosts kind of the best. Finally, an unidentified host is teased as perhaps the sole Sam Howell supporter west of Howell's mother's house and insists he wants Howell both to win the job and to be good.

Inside the episode

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this round's biggest loser. So 5-11 is the wide receiver 23 out the board right now. So that's where Watson is going. I don't mind that spot in drafts. I mean, you're looking in the sixth round, into the fifth round for some upside and, you know, talent generally wins out. I don't want to overemphasize Jordan Love because Aaron Rogers had a bad season. Like this was not a great year from Aaron Rogers. Sure. I mean, a bad year for Aaron Rogers, but a bad year from Aaron Rogers, this is just like, you know, I was going to see. Yeah, Bing Ben Rossberger. We had a bad year from him and it still gave us fantasy goodness from Deontay and Najee Harris. You go to Kenny Pickett. You're like, well, it certainly can't be worse. Oh, yes, it can. Well, people shut down the Seahawks, though. And they shut down the wide receivers last year.

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Right. I mean, Russell Wilson departed and these guys, their ADP was disgusting. It was revolting, but talent won out because, you know, was competent enough to pull that off. And the truth is, is I believe that the structure in Green Bay is solid. I mean, you have a coach that's a proven winner. You have opportunities there. So I don't mind, like I haven't ranked lower than, it's just how it ended up in the stats, but. Yeah, I think the question about. Christian Watson comes down to talent. You're right. Talent wins out. But is he a D.K. Metcalf, Tyler Lockett, Future Talent. Yeah, or is he, let me give you the best one, Gabriel Davis. Exactly. That's the other side. When I look at him, obviously, he did not have a large college production profile.

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but he was playing for a team that was a run first team. He was a senior, went and dominated the senior bowl. Like, he was the talk of the town at the senior bowl. And I remember buying in on his talent because of the people there in person who said that guy just blew people away. It was reminiscent of Cooper Cup, reminiscent of Debo Samuel, who did this, you know, they showed up to the senior bowl game. They were coming from programs where it was like, they weren't as heralded. but then they just wowed everyone. So it makes me believe in his talent a little bit more when you had that experience and then he shows up in the NFL and runs away from guys and dominates. So I think I bet on the side that says he is not Gabriel Davis. The five players in history, rookie wide receivers with seven plus receiving touchdowns and fewer than 45 receptions, Christian Watson.

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At the top, Martavis Bryant. We remember that. That's not one you wanted to end up like. Gabe Davis. Martavis is a TBD. Um, well, we can't. No, it's not two be determined. Sorry. It is a HVD has been determined, but I'm saying that Martavis Bryant was like if Martavis Bryant were in the league right now, he was unlined by the off the field. He's a W in D was never determined. Yes. That's what I was trying to do. Gabe Davis is the third on that list. Jehan Dodson, who we have a lot of optimism for, and then Anthony Miller. It's not a great list. I mean, obviously, Martavis Bryant, we don't know. It's just a free, it's a wild stat. I mean, seven plus receiving touchdowns on 45 receptions. All right. The second name is Miles Sanders. Guess his ADP. Right now we have him ranked very similarly. Jason's the highest.

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At 12, I've got him at 15, Mike at 15. He's the guy in Carolina last year, fifth most rushing yards, fourth most red zone touches in Philly. I don't think that the connection of Miles Sanders, the fatigue of his name, the Carolina Panthers in general are going to be pushing this guy very high. I think he's going to be a value. So ADP-wise, where do you think he's at? I agree completely with you. I can't see him being higher than running back 18 or so in average draft price. So I'm going to, I'm going to say running back 18 for ADP, which would that be fourth round if running backs are pushed up in redraft? I would think that would be fourth round, yeah. And I think that's where he is. That would be my guess as well, like 402. Okay. So what running back do you think he is off the board right now? 17.

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I'll go 16. Okay. Okay. No, Amy. No way, me, no way, me. Let's reveal. Five, ten. Oh, running back 22. Wow. Fantastic value. I think we were all trying to give him the depressed value and it wasn't depressed enough. I'm going to make Brooks reveal these from now on. You cool doing that, Brooks? Yeah. I just feel like there's more suspense in that. Plus, he has to say something other than. Oh, yeah. No, that's the cool. Yeah, that we're in a Kool-Aid man problem again. It's his fault, not in my mind. 5-10 is a steal, I think. RB 22. You know, you look at Miles Sanders at RB22 in drafts and wherever Madison ends up, that'll be an interesting one. It will. Because I would much rather have Miles Sanders. Yeah, it's ironic. Christian Watson and Miles Sanders are back-to-back. Yeah, according to this ADP, I would rather have Miles Sanders there because there are very few guys that.

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in the NFL could be workhorse running backs. I believe that they are bringing him in to use him that way. I think he will be a 65 to 70% snap player. I really, really think he's one of the better values. I worry about the offense with a rookie quarterback starting week one. Oh, that's breaking news, by the way. Finally, Bryce Young is taking first round. First snaps above Dalton. Oh, can you believe that? I can't believe it. Yeah. But, you know, he's going to start week one. And in the last decade or so, when you look at the quarterbacks who have started week one, their offenses haven't been great for the season. And their running backs haven't been usually great. I think only one example of, you know, a top 12 running back attached to those teams. So there are some up, it's not all roses, which is why he's, you know, at the back of the fifth round.

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When I look at the system, the coach, the money they gave him, the depth chart, what this offensive line did last year with Deonta Foreman, and I think the opportunity is great for him. Anything to add on Miles Sanders, Mike? Do you have fears of the quarterback situation? I do. Last year, it was, what, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, PJ Walker, is that right? Oh man, I totally forgot. I know. I didn't delete that. When I just said it out loud, I was expecting to be corrected. That's right, right? Yeah. Baker was a panther. He was traded there to start. Yeah, because last off season, there was all the, he's going to be better than Darnel. Yeah, we were on the DJ Moore. This will be the best quarterback he's playing. I'm only bringing those names up because that was bad.

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Sure. The Mayfield Darnold PJ Walker and Frank Reich I have a lot of confidence in. So I do have some optimism around Miles Sanders and that offense being competent in a bad division. Yeah, obviously I have some optimism. I have them ranked higher than that ADP. But I think that I think the risk on Miles Sanders is extremely high. We have, you know, teams that have started a rookie quarterback week one average about four and a half wins. And that is not the metric you want with running back. That is not. A winning team correlates high with a strong fantasy running back. I mean, that's no duh, because teams that are winning, then they end up running more at the end of the game, more opportunities for scoring. So that does scare me a little bit. When you look back, Deont de Foreman had some huge spike weeks, like absolutely crushed the Falcons, had a couple more, I believe, as well. But he also had some games that were just like absolute duds. So I think that they're...

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If Miles Sanders doesn't get the workload that the money dictates he should, you're going to have a busted draft pick. You have them ranked one spot ahead of Madison, I believe, right? If he's at 15 for you. Let me see. Let me double check that. I bet they're about the same spot. Yeah, they're very close as of right now. Who would you rather have? I, like, as of today, I think I would take Madison. I think I would. Yeah, bet on the offense. Yeah, and that's what it is. The Vikings are going to score a ton of points. And because Kirk Cousins will put up 4,500 yards, close to 30 passing touchdowns. And then it's like, well, how many points a game do the Panthers actually score? Do they hit the 20 mark? Hopefully. That's a good side to bed is on the offense. Travis E.T.N. Jacksonville running back.

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We got a guess the ADP. We have him at 17, 19, and 21. I've got them the highest. Oddly wasn't as used in the passing game. We brought this up. So strange. Considering his capability there and the, in the connection with Trevor Lawrence. You know, 5.1 in the second half, nine per reception. You watched it. It was an eyeball thing. I mean, every time he took the hand off, he was shot out of a cannon. Dealt with some injuries. Although there's also an eyeball thing with him too where I have never seen any running back. It exploded so many times. He gets tackled where he just gets like ran into and he flies back five yards. I saw it like 20 times last year. The ragdoll physics is very high. What was the joke that we made about him in the beginning of the work pony? Oh, that's what it was. Yeah, that wasn't very nice.

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No, the work pony idea that because of that, because he looks smaller than maybe he even is and gets blown up. But you know what? That's like when the cars, you know, you've seen the accidents. You've seen the crash test dummies. You're going 80. Yeah. That's a worse accident than going, than going 40. That is fair. I think he's going to be very high in average draft position because of his explosive beginning to. I think RB 13 or 14. I'm going to go 12. I think he cracks into the RB1 ADP. I'll go RB. 15. Is this a third round pick team then? Wait, well, yeah, is, I think he's. I think 13. I'm going to say that that becomes, yeah, it's at the two three turn. Yeah, I'm going to go end of second. All right. 304 RB 13. Oh, very well done, Andrew. You know, that the optimism around it, it's warranted. I mean, this is a team that is projected to win the division. We just talked about winning teams.

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He's by far the most talented back that they have. You guys have shared some concerns that were somewhat just, you know, the team came out and said they don't want him to take as much of the load as he was forced to last year. And so they may share some of that. But he's a highly efficient back. And he had 220 carries last year, got a little banged up at the end. You'd love to see the receptions go up a little bit. He only scored five times to finish as the RB17. So his range of outcomes. He doesn't qualify as a wild card because he doesn't have the, like, going to ruin you outcome, I don't think. No. But he does have a wide range of outcomes for a player you're taking in the third round. Yeah, I mean, we all have him pretty significantly behind where his average draft position is. And it feels a little scary because when you have a super explosive athlete like he is, another year removed from his injury like he is on an offense that projects to be better with an ascending quarterback.

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as is his situation. It's really tough to bet against that. But this coaching staff has a history of using, you know, a pretty big time share. Yes. Three backs, four backs in a system. They've talked about doing that and lessening his load. And then they went and grabbed Tank Bigsby, who I believe is a pretty good running back. So maybe that opens me back as well. Yeah, maybe that opens things up for Travis Eton to be hyper efficient because he certainly can be. But I see his volume. He's a guy that I haven't been able to draft almost at all because I think he's just going too high for where I think his medium outcome is. Yeah, I mean, it's a tough one. I don't see it as a committee. I don't think either of you guys do either, right, in Jacksonville? When you look at committee, like committee, I'm thinking, you know, you're talking Ramandre and Damien Harris from last year. You're talking about those situations.

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I don't see it as that kind of an outcome. I think Biggsby on third down has to prove himself, and that is a tall task for his previous performance and pass protection. It's not just third down, I think, for Biggsby with that draft capital. I think he'll get a lot of first and second down as well. What round was he third? Yeah, he was a day two pick. So day two. I mean, a platoon as far as like. you know, mid-50 percentile for Travis ETN. All right, Michael Pittman. Oh, man. Got any drops? Do you want to slam, Mike? I don't have that one. Get me out of that. Get me out of that drop. Hey, wait, are we back? Why am I in the picture? Are we back on Pity City? No, you go back to Mike. Hold on. Let me see what I got. No, that's everybody. Hey, everybody. I think that's the wrong drop, though. Yeah, it is.

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That's the one I was expecting. Taking the new role of Alexander Madison and Mike's rosters. What? No. The forever wait. Oh, yeah. Michael Pittman will take that spot. Look, we have them ranked. Probably too low. Probably too low. 36, 35, 40. I don't know, man. I think it is, I mean, 141 targets last year. Targets are a. And an earned stat. And you lose Paris Campbell. And he's talented. And you have a better offensive head coach than what they had through last year. I don't necessarily think he's better than what they started with last year. It's no Saturday. Look, I know a lot of Mike's lack of confidence comes in Anthony Richardson. I have been taking my shots with Anthony Richardson in basketball drafts. Oh, I think that's fine.

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And he may be my back in redraft, or me my quarterback in redraft. Just the way that, like, my roster and lack of draft picks may leave me to the, go for that guy, get the RG3 season. I totally get that. This is the lowest receiving yards ever for a wide receiver with 99 receptions in a season. 99 plus. It's the lowest fantasy production ever for a wide receiver with 99 plus receptions in a season. He had four touchdowns. He was under 1,000 yards. In three seasons, he's caught passes from Rivers, Wentz, Matt Ryan, Ellen Gajer, as we would say, and Nick Foles. And now you get Anthony Richardson. And 70% of the time a rookie quarterback fails to support a top 36 wide receiver, which is why Mike would say maybe we don't have them rank too low. That is the statistic that has me the most shooketh and concerned for Michael Pittman. Because Anthony Richardson, like,

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The targets, right? Incredible volume from Michael Pittman last year. What will this team be? Like at the team level, what's the pace of play going to be? Will it be a little bit slower? It certainly could be. Now take a mobile quarterback into that situation where every dropback, you have a chance that instead of actually unloading a target, Anthony Richardson. The positive play for him might be run. Just pick up five here. And that's an opportunity that's gone for Michael Pittman. When you think of Lamar, you think of RG3 and you think of play action passing and the opportunities to take advantage of the rocket ship arm that Anthony Richardson has, you think of what, Pierre Garcin, down the field, Deshawn Jackson. It's Alex Pierce. Yeah, that was my point. It's not, I know Michael Pittman is capable of catching a downfield target. I'm not saying he's not.

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But Pierce is faster, and Pierce was brought in to do that. So I do think that the fears are warranted. Where do you think he's going? Because I think he's going higher. Yeah, I think he's going to go much higher. He's still got a very recognizable name and had a lot of stats last year. I'm going to say like wide receiver 24. Yeah, I was going to say 25. So I'm going to go early 602. Wide receiver 24. Yeah, 24 was the number off the top of my head. I think he's still a fifth round pick. What do we got? But I guess.

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We just said Watson was, what, 511 at 23? Yeah. All right. 603, Jason. Brooksie, where is he? Wow, so close. 601, wide receiver at 25. 25. Yeah. That's two in a row on the number. It is. Impressive. Yeah, and I do think that's too high. You look at a guy who last year got 141 targets and did not crack a thousand yards. And this was an offense last year. Dante Johnson's like giving him a high five. This is an offense last year that had 3,800 passing yards. I personally have Anthony Richardson statted to play the entire season and finish with 2,800 passing yards. If, you know, if it's a number like that. Your market share would have to be outrageous. Yeah, your market share would have to be. No, no, no expectation of a Cam Newton rookie season.

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No, I don't think so. I don't think he throws for 4,000 yards. He's not the passer that Cam Newton was coming out of college. I could certainly see him developing into that. I actually think he's got a really nice pass. He can lay it up with touch. He can hit it small windows down the field. He can throw well on the run. I believe Anthony Richardson develops into a good passer. I just don't think he's there yet. Let me read who you're currently passing on. If you take Michael Pittman there. Okay. Jerry Judy. Ooh, I wouldn't do that. Mike Evans. Uh, more proven. Yeah. I can see that. Calvin Ridley. You know I mean. I'd probably take Ridley. Mike Williams. I'd take Mike Williams. Deontay. Locket. Hollywood. Hollywood, yeah. You haven't said a name yet. Iyuk. Kirk is the first one. Berks. Dotson.

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Yeah, I mean, most of these names I'm taking over. It is kind of like maybe it's a wide receiver dead zone for me where I want to wait for some of those other names that we're about to talk about. Johan Dotson. I guess I just broke this game, didn't I? I think he's going. About eight spots behind Michael Pittman. That's funny. Whoopsies. Maybe wide receiver 37 and like the. late eighth round 809. Brooks, what is it, Brooks? It is 809, wide receiver 37. Jason, give yourself a round of applause. That was very impressive. We do this full time. We're kind of the best at it. Okay, so Jehan Dodson doesn't get the suspense, but we all of them rank significantly higher than that ADP, wide receiver 37. I've got him at 20. Jason.

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Jason at 28. Mike at 32. Thank you for recent hit Jurassic Park reference. Yeah, we all like the talent. What we saw towards the end of last year when Jehan Dodson got back from his injury was a real consolidation of targets between him and Terry McLaren. That's how I've projected this next season to be with. him taking another step forward. I mean, year two wide receivers are one of the best bets in fantasy football. They usually outperform what their ADP is on average, and the talent was easily, you know, viewable with your eyeballs. So there's not the, what you don't like about Johan Dotson is the quarterback situation. I mean, that's what sucks. That was going to be my question for you as, uh,

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The sole supporter of Sam Howell. I was going to say on the show, but maybe west of the Mississippi. West of his mom's house. But you like Johan Dotson. So what do you want to happen? Do you want Jacoby Brissette to beat out Sam Howell and be the quarterback so you get maybe a little bit more clarity on Dotson and McLaurin? Or do you want to see Sam Howell? you know howl at the moon well i mean you know me i want sam how to win the job and be good like that that's my hope you could win the job no no no i said by default i said both i said both i want him to win the job and be good be good enough to win the job not by default so um it's a tall task it's really hard because you're going like there's no young quarterback like sam hell

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that isn't going to have a bumpy game here or there. And unfortunately, at least in my opinion, you guys can, I mean, also the opinion of the 12 quarterbacks that have played for Washington over five years, that you can't really predict the like trigger finger for Ron Rivera. Like sometimes it's like, you know, Taylor Heineke has a nice. three quarters or a game, and it's like, this is our guy. Yeah, he's the future. He's the, you know, this is our guy. This is what I love about him. He's gritty. He's tough. He gets us wins. He throws it to Terry McLorn all the time. And then it's like two weeks later, it's like, no, he's going to take a seat. We're going to go back to Carson wins. We've asked him to retire. And you want to know why? You do that because you lose. You're playing Dallas twice. You're playing Philly twice. You're playing the Giants twice.

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That's six possible chances to switch a quarterback. Yeah, I mean, I've got Sam Howell not playing the entire season because there will be a switch made at some point. And it's not really fair. If he was a first round pick, if he was someone that they invested in, and this is why draft capital matters so much. You know, he could have a bad first season here and you just keep going. You keep plugging him in there. But he was a fifth round pick. As soon as they lose a couple games. and he throws a couple picks, and that will happen. He's going to get the rug pulled up. And maybe the strategy for Washington for once should be committing to a player no matter what. Yeah. I mean, this whole idea of like we've got to have competition in camp no matter what. Maybe the new route could be giving Sam Hal a bit of a leash to work. We just talked about developing players, right? I mean. Yeah, but on.

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The other hand, you have people who want to maintain their jobs. Yep. And at the end of the season, what does the management look at? Does it go, okay, we have, we lost more than we won, but we feel like maybe we're developing this guy right here. Or is it more important for the management to say, okay, you had a 500 season. It was a tough draw with the quarterbacks we had. We'll give you one more chance. Yeah, it's fair. So all that being said, John Dodson is a talent. He's very good. From the time he returned, same targets, same yardage, I think a better touchdown pace than McLaurin last year. They were neck and neck. So this is definitely one of those situations. You guys have brought it up with Metcalf and Lockett. You could bring it up with A.J. Brown and Devonta Smith. Yeah, and Devonza Smith. If you're going to go in on one, I'm going in on Jehan Dodson. I'm not, I think the unknown of his upside.

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is more exciting to me considering, I believe, his downside is almost the same as Terry McLaurin's floor, as long as these guys are healthy. Yeah, and that's not to say, he is probably the better value. That's not to say that you can't go in on Terry McLaurin or the Terry McLaren's not better. You can go in on D.K. Metcalf, D.K. Metcalf can be better. That's right. But it's usually the second guy who has the better value for where you're drafting them, if they're far enough. Like Devonza Smith has been. He's like not that much cheaper. You see Debo Samuel came out and say he's going to bounce back from his quote, awful season. It's nice to know yourself. Yeah. I like that better than him coming out and being like, I was awesome last year. What are you talking about? Like if he thinks that season was bad, that's great. He doesn't want to do that.

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All right, good guesses on Johan Dotson, by the way. Thank you. All right, we're going to wrap this one today. Like I said, we're recording this early. So we'll be back with any breaking news. Talk through any of these new landing spots for certain players very soon. Thank you for joining us in Footclan giveaway.com if you want to win that jersey. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join thefoot.com. And follow us on Twitter at the FFBallers.