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The hosts work because they did not know how Veterans Day was observed while their children stay home. Kyle answers remotely from Georgia, where school is open, and the studio invokes Jeremy and Al as trusted authorities during a confused stock-market fact-check.
During Jason and Papa Josh's League of Record matchup, Josh places an image of inactive Nico Collins directly above Jason. Josh laughs when Jason discovers it; Jason calls him a snake but says Josh's terrible team is the only reason his own failed roster may still win.
After soliciting Sunday-night listener entries, the show estimates an 80–20 negative split and reads a dense good-and-bad board including Awesome Ekeler, Jamour Chase, Chuba Hubba Hubba, Silence of the Lamb, CD Sham, Aaron Fraudgers, Dalton Decade, Jared Gawful, Malik Waivers, and Bad McConkey.
Jason still finds pieces of a white beard after cleaning all morning. The hosts say he remains in the Gnome Zone and call it the punishment that keeps on going because new fibers continue to appear.
CeeDee Lamb's sun-blinded miss prompts a Jerry Jones rant and a button-blind proposal: lower curtains for Dallas, then raise them when the opponent has the ball. The desk imagines questioning an 82-year-old in a nursing home, repeats Jones's 'Where's the moon?' response, tells Mike by name to lay off, and Mike refuses.
Kyle supplies a live Tyler Allgeier EPA rank during an argument, then receives a shout-out because his bold call predicted Bijan Robinson's first career 30-plus DraftKings game and it happened. The hosts broaden the celebration to the whole crew's outrageous prop performance.
A host reads from the show document that MVS plays for Buffalo, is corrected that he plays for New Orleans, and says his brain became jelly because he trusted the document. The desk discovers Brooks wrote the outdated Bills note, after the host describes himself as Ron Burgundy reading whatever appears.
The Veterans Day show opens as a skeleton crew because the hosts did not understand how the holiday would be observed and their children are home. Kyle joins by microphone from Georgia, where school is in session; the desk then defers to Jeremy and Al during a chaotic live check of whether the stock exchange is open. Monday Punday returns after a public call for submissions, with an 80–20 negative split and player mutations including Awesome Ekeler, Jamour Chase, Chuba Hubba Hubba, Silence of the Lamb, CD Sham, Aaron Fraudgers, Dalton Decade, and Malik Waivers; submissions are invited each Sunday on Instagram and X. Papa Josh weaponizes the cast's own fantasy stakes by putting an absent Nico Collins image directly above Jason during their League of Record matchup, laughing as Jason calls him a snake and thanks Josh's terrible team for keeping the result survivable. A prior Gnome Zone punishment is still physically present as Jason finds white beard fibers after cleaning all morning. The title story turns CeeDee Lamb's sun-blinded missed touchdown into Mike's sustained Jerry Jones grievance: the hosts imagine button-controlled red-zone curtains that rise only for the opponent, compare the 82-year-old owner to a nursing-home resident under questioning, and repeatedly use Jones's 'Where's the moon?' line; when told by name to lay off, Mike refuses. Kyle later receives credit for a successful first-career-30-point Bijan Robinson call as the whole crew's props are celebrated. Brooks supplies the closing production error by writing that MVS plays for Buffalo in the shared document, causing a host to read it verbatim, become brain jelly, and call himself Ron Burgundy.
to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in. The fantasy footballers Monday, November 11th. It's a skeleton crew today. We've got a holiday edition of the show. It's such a holiday. All of our kids are home from school, and here we are. because we didn't know how Veterans Day was observed. So happy Veterans Day to everybody out there to our veterans service and sacrifice. We respect and honor that. And we've got to show for you today. Going to respect it with some good old fashioned poop and fart jokes, I bet. Yeah. Well, some people do. Based off of the weekend. Some people do have to work, but we were getting to the point where.
I was with a bunch of family this weekend that are in from out of town. And it's like, nobody's working. They've all got the days off. Our kids are all, they all got the days off. And then one person in our family was working. And I was like, okay, well, what field are you in? And it was like a hospital. I was like, okay, that's why we talk fantasy football. And that's why we're working too. You surround yourself with laziness, apparently. Just the same level of essential service is what we're doing here. So what we learned this morning. Because we kind of schedule, we have to schedule out our year and our shows well in advance because we sell advertising into the shows and we're, we're planning the year. And then it's like, oh, it's November 11th every year. It's not just Monday. Right. So it's only ever been a Monday one time. It's been since we've been doing this. Since I promise it's hit Monday more than once. But yeah, uh, been five years since the last Monday that it, that it fell on. Yeah. So, so we're here.
And hopefully you're enjoying the holiday. And if you have to work, you've got the show. And otherwise maybe you'll be listening to it tomorrow. We'll see. We got a lot to talk about this weekend. The Monday Punday, it was hard to find somebody happy with somebody. That wasn't named Jamar Chase and Lamar Jackson. Watching the games here in the studio this weekend, I mean, the whole first half of the day was like, who are you happy with? Like we were, we were just trying to figure out because all the touchdowns. that came through in the first half of the morning slate was like nobody's. There's a couple valuable ones, but not very many. So I have to break in. Kyle, you're on the microphone, right? I'm here. And you're in Georgia. Yep. And everybody's at school? They're at school today. This is a national holiday. I don't create the schedule. The stock market is closed today. Yeah. No, it's not. It's not? No.
What? Yes, it is. No, it's not. I would trust Jeremy. I wouldn't look at the, I wouldn't look at the pre-market. I thought it wasn't moving. Banks are closed today. It's open. Banks are closed. I would trust. Banks are closed. I would trust. Al, where his side has closed. But to be fair, banks, banks are so lazy. Are you sure that maybe the stock market is only open in Georgia? What in the world? Okay, so we don't know what, we don't know what's going on. We know what's veterans. Happy Veterans Day, everybody. What? What? Some people they go to school. Some people they don't. Okay. Okay. So while it's a federal holiday, the New York Stock Exchange of NASDAQ will be open the regular hours. What is going on? So we'll do half a ship. That sounds great. Are we doing studs or duds? So what duds would be this week? So you're telling me the stock market is like, we'll close on New Year's Day.
Yeah. Washington's birthday. Uh-huh. Veterans, you're going. Veterans date. No, man, we got to keep working. I don't. Are we honoring the vets? I think they're honoring the vet. They are taking, you know, the veterans, uh, tread lightly. And they're saying, we want to, we want you to have a larger portfolio. We're going to stay open today. Okay. This is honoring the vet. Okay. I like that. I love learning these things live on the podcast. Great news for you. We will learn them all again next year. Yeah, we will because we will forget all of this. So we did put the call out for Monday Punday excellence, as we call it. And you guys shared your Monday Punday submissions. This was one of those weeks where it was at least 80-20 negative reaction to performances. I mean, I'm looking at Jason right now and right above his head.
is a man who didn't play football last night. Oh, are you kidding me? You put Nico about me. Papa, Josh, you are. What a snake. Oh, you snake. Josh was laughing. I can't believe you figured it out this early. I mean, Nico Collins and his, I mean, people wanted to know your reaction. Now. I think it would have been far more severe had your your matchup been a little bit closer. Yes, I have to thank you, Papa Josh, for your team being so terrible. Playing you this week is my only saving grace. My team crapped the bed and I still should win, but it's not impossible that I lose if Puka outscores waddled by about 20 points. Yeah, so no Nico. That was one of the many surprises. Nico calling in sick is submission I saw.
But let's jump into Monday Punday. Let's react to the weekend and we'll get into studs and duds. Let's start with The Good, like Awesome Echler. Or Sequin Fartley. Oh. Why is Mr. Fartley in The Good? I saw quite a few. Oh, no, that's a bad one. Yeah, a bad one. Generally speaking. I would start here. Awesome Echler. How about Jamour Chase? A gaseousness is negative. Oh, sorry. Calvin Bigley? And Cal Win Ridley. Calvin Bigley? How about Brock Purdy darn good? Okay. Oh boy. And Chuba Hubba Hubba. Mark Mandrews. The Marvelous Jackson. And I saw La Marvelous Chase. All right. Here's where we. Sayquan Fartley. Very good. Mike Gasaki. Oh, shim. Darn it. Bustin Jefferson.
Oh, how about poop or rush? Oh, silence of the lamb. Yeah, and CD sham with those lights. You see the sun bursting through and blinding CD land? Yeah, yeah. We're going to talk about that. Neve flowers. Yeah. Aaron Fraudgers? And Dalton Decade. Dalton Decade. Good. Jared Gawful. Oh, Malik Wafers. Yeah. And bad McConkey. Oh, man. Simple. Yeah, there's some good stuff in there. Yeah, Malik waivers, I mean. That's a good one. I do appreciate, nobody knows this until I say it, but I do appreciate that bad McConkey was spelled with two Ds. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, we are integrous here on this fine Veterans Day. Have you ever shared, Jason, that you, when you're referring to McConkey, I mean, when you're not doing your awful accent. Oh, my little lad. Yeah, that one.
You call him Lididi. Yeah. Well, that's from, uh, yeah, that's, Key and Peele. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A run. Lididi Mikonke. Well, that was the best we had. That really was the best we had. It was a, it was a heck of a weekend. You can submit yours on Instagram at Fantasy Footballers on X at the FF Ballers. Every Sunday night. We put the post up. And you can break into the show with your Monday pundit. Welcome to Ready to Roll, presented by Nissan. Ten weeks in, I mean, we got a Monday night football game, but we're just about 10 weeks in and wanted to take a look at the disparity between the best pass-catching running backs and the running backs that put up the most points just on the ground. We know that a running back target, statistically speaking, in fantasy football is worth two to two and a half times more than a rushing attempt.
You know, and we also know that touchdowns are difficult to predict. And so sometimes when a running back is dependent on simply handoffs, the running ground work, it can be a little more inconsistent. We looked at past catching pros, running backs with 35 plus percent of their fancy points coming through the air. And we looked at the big bodied bruisers, the BBB, running backs with 80 plus percent of their production coming on the ground. The names might be familiar, but your conclusion about whether. You'd rather have one or the other the rest of the season might be interesting. The top three names at the pass catching pro area, Rashad White, who has been putting up consistent flex-worthy, RB2-worthy numbers. Breeze Hall. Kind of interesting that he's in that category once again. And then Alvin Camara, of course, right? Alvin Camara, despite the absolutely egregious potentially league-changing drop on Sunday. What was that thing going to be like a 60-yard touchdown? Oh, it was, yeah, and it was just.
If you watch the replay, the ball was in his hands and he had already turned his head up field, which is always what you see on a drop, right? You always see the head turning. Look the ball into the hands and secure the catch. Well, I don't even blame players like that that have 10 years of catching everything. But you never expect Alvin Camara to drop a pass. So those players are in that pass catching pro category. And then, of course, the big body bruisers, the ones that are having at least 80% of the production. coming on the ground. We saw one of them last night, David Montgomery. Jason was absolutely absolutely. I still have beard. Oh, I know. I still have the white beard. You're in the gnome zone. It's everywhere. I've been cleaning it up all morning and I thought I got it all. I'm finding new ones right here. The gnome zone will never leave us. No, that is the punishment that keeps on going. But David Montgomery last night.
and last year, 90% of his fantasy points last year came on the ground. It's not that he's not a good pass catchers. They got a better one. They got a better one in Jamir Gibbs. And then Derek Henry, Derek Henry and J.K. Dobbins, two other guys in that category. I am curious when you look at this statistic, when you know that target number that they're worth two to two and a half times more than a rushing attempt. How do you look at the landscape and players this year? Yeah, I mean, I think Alvin Camara is worth bringing up as, When you've got a running back and you're watching the game script, sometimes it can be so frustrating knowing that for your running back to succeed, you have to, that team has to do good. They have to perform well. They have to have the lead. Superman does good. Yeah. It's wonderful when you don't care. Like if you've got the lead and you've got a guy like Alvin Camara, great. They're going to use them. If you get down two scores, great. They're going to use them even more.
That's the frustrating thing about certain types of players. Like, Derek Henry has been a frustrating manager, you know, a frustrating player to have in years past when you're not winning every single game. And I think that would still hold true for the Baltimore Ravens. Like if they're, if they're down two scores, you're going to watch Derek Henry on the sideline a lot. You're not going to be down two scores a lot in Baltimore right now. Which is the exact same equation for David Montgomery. 100%. I mean, they win most of their games. And because of that, Montgomery is constantly eating up the clock. He's generally been the first quarter guy. Dobbins, you know, Dobbins is not doing anything in the passing game. Gus Edwards came back and was more involved yesterday than I expected. And that team doesn't win quite as much or as well as the Henry Montgomery.
the running scheme, you know, it's hard to have any doubt in Henry. It's hard to have any doubt in Montgomery. But Dobbins, I have a little bit more doubt moving forward from a consistency spec. Yeah, I thought that Gus Edwards looked better on the field. He did. He looked fast again. Yeah, he did. It was like, oh, good. Whatever was ailing him to start the year? Because he looked awful to begin the year. And we were watching the game. We're like, oh, man, number four, looking good out there. 10 for 55. Yeah, so JK Dobbins did carry the ball. Thank you. Dobbins was still the leader, you know, in snaps, in carries. And we just, the, Dobbins is running routes. Like he ran, according to PFF, he ran 17 routes yesterday. Huge was the high on the team at 23. So 17. That's a, that's a good number for what the Chargers said yesterday. Three targets, I mean, okay. It's funny because, like, he's been running routes, but he's not getting targeted. He is not?
uninvolved in the passing game. The way that, like, David Montgomery is generally uninvolved in the past game. J.K. Dobbins is involved. He's just not efficient with it. Like, if you look at his last five games, he'd be on target for 57, a 17 game pace of 57 targets, which is, that's not, that's not uninvolved, but only 200 yards. Like, he doesn't do anything with him. So when you look at 90% of his points are coming outside of, you know, the, the pass work, a lot of that's because he's been. really running hot with touchdowns. And so Dobbins is a player I worry about with Gus back. I think Gus could be their better goal line player. And if so much of your production is coming from touchdown dependency, then Gus being back is a real problem. Just to back up that number, he's 35th out of 36 running backs and fantasy points per target. So when he's thrown the football, fantasy points aren't coming. On the other side with the past catching guys,
Brees Hall I want to talk about because if you look on the course of the whole year, he's averaging 13 attempts a game. So on the ground, 13 attempts a game. If I had told you that before the season, would you have been content drafting him where he was drafted? No way. I mean, he was being drafted anywhere from the second pick to the fourth pick. This was, Breece has been dreadfully disappointing. And he's had his good games. He's had his big runs. He's not. a worthless fantasy asset, but as someone who has him in both of our main leagues, like our main dynasty and our league of record, I've got him in both places. He has hurt me on a personal level. And I'm frustrated by his, both his utilization and his performance. So DeAndre Swift averages 2.7 more attempts a game than Brees Hall does. Joe Mixon is at 22, whereas Brees Hall's at 13.
And since the arrival of Devante Adams, he's averaged 2.3 receptions per game, a 12% target share where he was at 4.6. That's why he's in the past catching pro category. The team is getting down. They're losing ball games. When that happens, it's a quick, Aaron Rogers got to fix this problem, whether he can fix it or not. That seems concerned. Yeah, I mean, think about the targets here before and after Devante Adams. You've got the targets were 6, 8. 55469, all awesome numbers. And then the last three weeks have been, it's Jenny's number. Three, four, and four. So you're taking... And a new play caller. Right. And originally when that play caller shifted over, you thought this was really, really good news for Brees Hall, the utilization. Braylon Allen kind of disappeared for a minute. Yeah, but he's back. Yeah, Braylon Allen is back. He had eight opportunities, seven carries.
in yesterday's game to Brees Hall's 10. I know. And honestly, I watch Brees Hall. If you get Brees Hall a crease and you let him go, he's hard to catch. But if you don't give him that crease, he's not doing, he's not doing anything on his own that's as special as I think his stuff. You know, you watch. He doesn't really look different than Braylon Allen when it's just behind center. You watch Bejohn versus Tyler Algear. Yeah. And you're like, oh my gosh, every time they give the ball to Tyler L. G. Or even when he's, he's okay. But it is a negative compared to Bejohn. Bejohn's just been outstanding the last month. Brees is not digging into that next, you know, digging deeper, getting to that next gear. Is there dynasty panic? I am, yeah, I would definitely say there's dynasty panic. Because what you thought you had with Brees was a young top three running back.
What you have with Breece is a young top 15 running back. Ooh. Those things are top 10? No, top 15. I mean, what is he right? I think he's 11 on the year. Yeah, he's 11 on the year. That don't fit the top 10. No, it doesn't fit the top 10 and he hasn't had a buy week. On a points per game basis, I'll bet he's not top 15. I'm on it. There's a man who knows his Breeze. Yeah, I've been why. I mean, I love Breeze Hall. He's like one of my dudes and I've, there's a reason I've got him in both of our main leagues and he. Blahda.
I'm not happy about it. Mike, any other comments on these two paradigms of running back? No, I echo that I'm concerned with Dobbins. Of all the guys we've talked about, he's the one that's the scariest. All right, that was ready to roll. Thanks again to our sponsor, Nissan, and the all-new reimagined Nissan Kix. Resigned with a bold new look. The Nissan kicks sports the latest tech, like a Bose Personal Plus sound system. Head over to Nissan.usA.com to learn more. Bose Personal Plus Sound System is an available feature. Bose is a registered trademark of the Bose Corporation. News and notes from Around the League. Presented by USAA Insurance.
I know you've got the number. I've got the number. You want to take a guess? How many minimum games did you go? I didn't go any. So Isaiah Procheco is in there. I got a minimum four games. Okay. Without that, he's the running back 19. So I'm guessing he's the running back 18. 20. Oh, if minimum four games, RB20. How would that be worse? That math makes no sense to me. I'm just on our website. I got minimum games four. And points per game, Brees Hall is 20. Well, there you go. So not great. Not league winning. Not weak winning. No. He's still got the talent to do it. Nice RB2. I mean, but the Jets. Okay, RB2. The Jets are, I mean, it's funny because I've got, I have had Brees Hall, my superstar, and then I've got David Montgomery. Okay. And it's completely, it's like, I've got David Montgomery. Yeah. And Brees Hall.
Yeah, isn't that weird? It is weird, man. I hate it. And that's why your reactions at David Montgomery, not getting the first drive of the game was so extreme because you need him. Yeah, that's his drive, man. All right, Trevor Lawrence didn't play dealing with a significant AC joint sprain, could miss the rest of the season. This is being reported by Diana Rossini, among others. If you were in a multi-quarterback league, you should have added Mac Jones. We mentioned it. Other quarterbacks potentially missing, probably missing the rest of the season, Dak Prescott, meeting with another specialist. From what I've read about this injury, he's missing the rest of the season no matter what. It's just whether he does the surgery, which puts him on the shelf for three months, or he doesn't do the surgery, which puts him on the shelf for eight to ten weeks. Either way, he's missing the season. And Dallas is in just a tailspin. What are they doing? What are they losing? They're losing.
We're getting like more public meltdowns. If you didn't catch it, the C.LAM had an easy touchdown, but the way that the Dallas Cowboys Stadium is situated and facing, well, at certain times of the day, the sun comes blasting through the windows directly into the faces of everyone who is looking in that direction. Cid Lamb had an easy touchdown. Does it catch it. doesn't know the doesn't even know there's no idea that the ball is thrown to him yeah i'm not blaming him we've all done the thing where you you look up and the sun is there yeah i'm not i'm not blaming anybody on that i'm blaming one person well you you you have you have become yes like jerry jones might be who you are for for Halloween next year because this is because my eyes are open if he's still a lot so are my ears look
CD Lamb was asked about it. And he's like, I couldn't see it. You know, I mean, maybe curtains. And then Jerry Jones was asked about putting up curtains. He's like, why don't we just tear down the whole stadium then? Like the guy overreacted so much. He has no idea what he's doing. You would never. I'm reacting appropriately to Jerry Jones right now. I mean, as far as I'm concerned, if you're the home team, you of all teams know where the sun is on that play. Maybe run a different play. I have. Maybe you just put some curtains up. I have these blinds. I have these blinds. You can push a button. You can push a button and have them roll up and have them roll down. Now, if you could do that, would you roll it up when the, you're darn right I would. When the other teams on the other side of the field. You're darn right. I would. When they got the ball. The red zone curtains. The curtains rise. It's just insanity of if you've watched any cowboy games, you know that there's, there'll just be these areas of the field where like,
The sun in its full force and mighty is just barreling down on that part of the field. No 82-year-old man is prepared to receive the quantity of questions about the amount of things going wrong in Dallas right now. No 82-year-old man. Could you imagine going into a nursing home and just berating an 82-year-old about some mistakes that they made that they can't remember? That is the problem because it's so easy. They got the reports, hey, city lamb. looked like he really could have had an easy touchdown there, but the sun was in his face. Me, owning the Dallas Cowboys wanting them to succeed, I go, oh, that's, that's, we'll take care of that's a problem that we're going to take care of. Yeah. Next week, that'll be, that'll be fixed. Instead, why don't we just tear down the whole stadium? We know where the sun is. Where's the moon? That was his quote. I sound like a crazy person right now, but that was Jerry Jones. Yeah, well, look, um,
Cooper Rush isn't the answer. Oh, my gosh. Oh, Cooper Rush is not the answer. Woof bad. We know what the answer is. We know what the... Yes, the answer is also not Trey Lance, Mike. Probably. Honestly, honestly, why not? Oh, no, I would move to Trey Lance. I would move to him this week. As fast as possible. I'm just saying it will also not be the answer. What did they give up for Trey Lance? It was a fourth. It was a fourth. It was a fourth that could have been Braylon Allen. I mean, he's a free agent. You got to just...
play him at this point. But guys, Cooper Rush threw the ball 23 times. He threw it 23 times and he finished the day with 45 passing yards. That is, that's a level of bad that I'm not sure. Well, I listened to Jerry. He said that was, Philly had a lot. Where's the moon? No, he said Philly had a lot to do with it because they, you know. Yeah. That's, yeah. Well, you know, they were playing defense. Do you know how good they are? Yes. Where's moon? He's 82, Mike. Lay off. I will not. He didn't get his nap. You know who's going to have a lot to do with Cooper Rush's bad performance next week? Whoever their opponent is, which is Houston. I am trying, because I think this is worth more of our time on today's show. I think it's worth having the conversation about how to properly react to CD lamp. Sure.
You know, he should have caught the touchdown, right? Like that was an anomaly. The sun was in his eyes. Well, it's not an anomaly in the stadium. No. But it's not a normal thing in the NFL. I just, I don't want people to, because I was in this boat yesterday. I was on the precipice of sending about 10 trades out to try and fix the CD-Land problem rest of season. Like get rid of CD-Land. Yeah, try to find, basically try to go find a team. that has a player that's in the same category that maybe can afford to, you know, we have a keeper league. They can afford to give up somebody now and they'd rather have C.D. Lamb later and I can stack a player on top of it. But I'm looking at those names, right? Justin Jefferson. Okay. Disappeared yesterday. Sam Donald has his problems. I'd probably rather have Jefferson rest of season. That person's probably not doing that deal. No. Malik neighbors had conversations about that.
No, thank you. Malik neighbors. Okay. Would I rather have Malik neighbor? Why? Why would I rather have Malik neighbors? He's going to have as many games that are Drew Locked or Daniel Jones the rest of the year as Lamb will have Cooper Rush and and Tray Lance. So there aren't a lot of options that are sitting there. I mean, the one that I thought of was Nico Collin. Yeah. It was injured right now. Players not getting that return. Was the number one wide receiver? Don't know when he's going to be back. Don't know if he's going to be healthy. Maybe Nico Collins is a target. But you really can't just go trade to just get the headache off your team because it's going to hurt you. He's going to lead the team. They're not going to be a good team. They're going to throw the ball all game long. And he's their best receiver by about a factor of a thousand. So I just would not panic trade C.D. Lamb. I would just. If you're trading him, you're going to have to move down a tier.
I got to get the deal done. That seems like the truth. You're going to have to move up somewhere else. And I don't know. I wouldn't overreact to one week. He did have 10 targets. Yeah, that's, I mean, I think I'm scared. What did he finish with though? He caught the ball six times for 21 receiving yards. Yeah. And he got some handoffs, right? Like a third of Cooper Rush's total yards. Just be careful. Just be careful. This was a bad week for a lot of players. I'm not saying don't trade, but just be careful. Because maybe Tray Lance, I mean, one thing Tray Lance could do from time to time was throw a deep ball. Yes, he can't. See, there's a lot of players out there. I think I would rather have than CD. Now, we're in a, you know, you're talking about your situation. We're in a keeper league. There's a lot of new ones. But just in a redraft league and you're just thinking the rest of the seasons. I'd much rather have Puka. I'd much rather have Debo. Oh, I would not much rather have Debo. Wow. I would not do that trade.