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With Andy explicitly sick, Mike and Jason begin as the two healthy hosts until someone points out the omitted introduction. Jay Griz is then called the Cardboard Bear Extraordinaire, a co-host who is always reliable, always filling in, never sick, and never absent from the studio.
The hosts say Jay still reports to work without the lower half of his body and cannot have bowel problems because he has no bowels, extending the claim that he has never taken a sick day.
The hosts identify buying the UDK as the easiest chance-based route into the Listener League, then claim an office study found 99 of 100 Ultimate FootClan members gorgeous; Papa Josh is the sole no vote because the Falcon belongs to the group.
A host tries to clarify George Pickens for new listeners, but the show insists he is simply George and explains that the inside joke exists because professional fantasy analyst Jason Moore cannot remember Pickens's last name.
With preferred researcher and League of Record co-champion Kyle absent, the hosts turn to Matt, ask whether he even knows how to research, say he cannot spell the word, reject a ChatGPT claim of 71 targets, and then accept Matt's Brandon Marshall answer as plausible.
Jeremy follows the target search by supplying the historical rank and Chris Chambers total, then later confirms that 'squelch' was used correctly by providing its definition.
Mike and Jason record without Andy, explicitly explaining that Andy is sick and mocking his weak body while presenting themselves as two healthy best friends. Minutes later, someone points out that they forgot an introduction: Jay Griz, the Cardboard Bear Extraordinaire, is called a co-host, always reliable, and always filling in. The hosts say Jay has never had a sick day, never leaves the studio, still reports to work without the lower half of his body, and cannot have bowel problems because cardboard Jay has no bowels. This is unusually direct support for Jay's combination of reliability and neglect. The episode also names an alternate Listener League route: buying the UDK enters listeners in a giveaway, followed by an office beauty survey in which Papa Josh is the lone dissenter because the Falcon is an Ultimate FootClan member. A separate show-meta exchange explains the 'George' inside joke: George Pickens is simply George because professional analyst Jason cannot remember his last name, and new listeners are expected to learn inside jokes over time. Later, with League of Record co-champion Kyle absent, Matt becomes the substitute crack researcher; the hosts say he cannot spell research and reject an absurd ChatGPT answer before Matt finds the plausible record. Jeremy then supplies the refined target ranking and later defines 'squelch,' giving two small examples of Deucer's Alley fact support.
to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host. Just a reminder. This won't air for a week. Jason Moore and Mike Wright. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the podcast. We're still the fantasy footballers podcast. If you're nasty, it's me, Mike. And it's me, Jason. We're just two cool dudes. Just two best friends. Just two healthy men. Yeah. Are you throwing up? No. You got the diarrhea? Sometimes. Right now? A lot of times. I mean, I can't actively. My point is Andy is sick. Andy is sick. Just give me 10 minutes. His weak body. Right. He doesn't have a strong man body like us. His weak body is failing him. So soft. But we're here. We are here. We are recording this a little bit early just for everyone's information. He can't screw up our mock draft today. That's right. Yeah.
And it's not a full mock draft, but I mean, we're going to go first round. Let's talk about some heavy hitters at the top. How are we feeling about these guys? Because honestly, I mean, these are not statistical projections. These are vibes. Well, yeah, I mean, this time of year, looking at how the top of the draft is going to go still can make a lot of sense. Most of the players at that level aren't going to have drastic. things happen to change a rookie pick a veteran coming in it's not going to really change the lay of the land for these guys yeah i'm very excited for jeremiah love to sneak into the first round oh man that hey not impossible i've got the second pick so oh don't don't tempt me with a good time the udk pre-order and dynasty pass access it is live it is going on this is the cheapest possible price
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But that's in there, a rookie mock draft, the first one, the team opportunity pages where we let you know players who are leaving teams, what target share and rush are they leaving behind? Best destination spots for rookies at different positions. Trade targets. All that stuff's out. A lot of really good stuff in there. Ultimate GraphKit.com. Also, this is your truly, this is your easiest way for a chance to be in the listener league with us because it's just, hey, if you pick that up, then you get a chance. And the ultimate subscribers, if you're an ultimate Foot Clan member, you have access to everything right now. And of course, you are in that giveaway as well. And you are beautiful. Yes. We did a study recently. Yes, we did. Show that 99 out of 100 Ultimate Foot Clan members are gorgeous. We pulled this entire office. And every employee here, we asked, do you think,
Ultimate members are more attractive. And the only reason is not. And Papa Josh was the only one who said no. Right. Well, because he knows, Papa Josh knows that the Falcon has an ultimate Foot Clan membership. Oh, I so. It can't be. You go through my insult. I threw Josh at the Falcon. It's a twofer. Got them both. All right. Quick question of the day. Before we get into that, I can't help but notice you forgot one introduction at the top of the show. Oh. Oh. I'm Jay Grimm. Shame on me. Jay Griss, the Cardboard Bear, extraordinary. Co-hosts, always reliable, always filling in. Honestly, never had a sick day in his life. No. Always here. Never leaves the studio. I mean, he doesn't even have a lower half of his body, and he still shows up to work. And he makes it to work. You can't have diarrhea. When all of your insides are falling out, you can't have bowel problems because you've got no bowels.
It's dynasty season. So I actually, I like this one because we're talking. The best part about dynasty in the off season is nasty boys. It's calling your shot on guys who aren't superstars and a guy who, let's see what can happen. Tyler Algier, who before Bijon Robinson was drafted to the Atlanta Falcons, he broke the rookie rushing record for that team. I believe Bijon took it away from him. Oh, yeah. But like Algier is a. Good player, good friend of the show, Ian Hartett's tweeted about this, that Algier is currently the all-time NFL leader for most career touches without a single fumble at 737 touches. So coaches will like that. He has been obnoxious in the green zone for us who love Bijon Robinson so much because Alger is honestly, he's a good player. So Jason, we don't know the landing spot. What is your perception?
Do you like a low speculative ad of Tyler Alger? Are you holding him? How are you looking at the situation? So the situation here, if you get a lay in the land of incoming rookies and free agent running backs, you can kind of see that there might be a place for Alger to go and get a starting contract or at least get a more guaranteed workload. Now, if I had to predict where he's going to go, I... I think the odds are still that he's back in Atlanta. Okay. That's probably the number one spot. But my second place pick for him, he is going to be someone that is better than his name. Like he is a better player than the hype. No one's going to be like selling tickets to season ticket holders because they went and got Tyler Algier. He's just the put on the hard hat and go to work type of player. So I think a smart franchise is the type of franchise. It would be like instead of going and getting Brees Hall.
a sexy name that'll sell tickets and cost a lot of money, who is clearly a better running back than Tyler Algier. Let's save some cash, put it to more important positions, and go get a quality back. And if I'm looking at teams that are well built with the general manager who's doing great work, it's got to be Seattle. Yeah, I was going to throw out. If Kenneth Walker costs a lot of money, the gap between what the Seattle Seahawks and how they play and what they want to do, if you swap them, I mean. They don't have Charbs right now. Right. Currently injured. And I could see a team like that going out and making a play. If that were to happen and you basically swap Kin Bone Walker with Tyler Algier, he becomes very interesting for fantasy. Yeah. I did think about that as a potential landing spot. I just want to throw out some teams. Our dynasty pass are opportunity grades for an incoming running back where things are currently because of...
contracts and free agents and projected guys uh moving on teams that have an a minus to an a plus from us we got the chiefs the jets the seahawks the manders the cowboys the jags saints and titans now not every single one of those teams is exciting but but there is opportunity there 100 percent the seahawks i thought about it it's interesting where would they want to do that where because it's like Algier is kind of like a charbes. He is more of a charbes clone. So you won't have. But if they if they could have a different dynamic. But if they could have six Zach Charbonnet's, yeah, they would they went out there. That is a good point. Because you they know how much better he is. And then would Charbonnet get a taste of his own medicine where he gets to be the man guy. He's pulled off on the goal line. And then it's Algier getting all the touchdowns. He's like, what the heck, dude?
But there's a lot of teams where there's... Honestly, the best part of Tyler Algier testing the open market and maybe getting a job somewhere else. Like, I would love it if he goes to... Which a reminder, he was a fourth rounder? I believe he was a day three pick. So he needs to get money. Yeah. Like he's, he's an NFL running back. This will... He was a fifth round pick. Fifth round pick. This is his chance. I don't know. I don't know what the appetite is for... for a guy like alger but like this is his one chance to go really make his money as the odds of of someone a player like aljir getting a second contract extension that is anything more than just like hey you're a you're a vet will give you the the minimum and not not saying that that's not good money but like the money money where you have that short window in your nfl career this is it yeah if he can go get 10 12 million dollars somewhere he's he he needs to take that
I think there's a good chance. And the best part about that is actually Bijan Robinson. Because if you take the eight touchdowns that Tyler Algier had, and maybe two of them go to someone else and six of them go to Bijan, Bijan is the clear 101 in fantasy. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm saying last year, not in today's mock draft. We don't know yet, Mike. We're all trying to figure out who's going to go 101. I do have the first pick. I won't spoil it just yet. Thank goodness. Yeah, people got to stay tuned. Stay tuned for the 101 for the guy that we have been saying for a couple weeks is the 101. Like I said, we are recording a bit early. So I don't want to do a whole news section, but there was an exciting hype train piece of David Blau. Blow, blah, blah, blah, blah. The new OC for Washington. Quote, the Washington offense will be built around getting Terry McLaurin 10 targets a game.
We do like to hear that. Wait, we're reporting that Mike Evans is expected to continue playing. Brooks, what are you doing to me? Of course he's going to keep playing. Yeah, because he's pretty far away from a first ballot, Mike. It can't. I mean, now that it can't. Well, after the fiasco of Bill Belichick and like Larry doesn't count because Larry is the second or third best wide receiver of all time. And no, I will not be taking comments about this. He's probably number two in my opinion. He's number three. It's Randy Moss. Rice, Moss. And check out. And then we know that George is going to get franchise, but we'll see. We'll see if the trades are going to come through. That's George Pickens of the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, we just call him George. All right. It's George. On this show, it's George. Go to go to the fantasy. You ever listen to this show before? I have, but some people haven't. Yeah, well, they've got to figure it out. Sometimes inside jokes.
need to be learned over time welcome folkland apologies it's george george carry on which a a joke that appeared because jason moore professional fantasy football analyst can never remember george bickens last name it was a real can he picket i was just reminding jason yeah thank you i had no idea who was talking about but they are the rumor was that they're willing to basically trade him for a second round pick i saw that reported so Buffalo. Buffalo. If George Pickens is available. That would be awesome. If you can get George Pickens. I know you have to pay him, but imagine that game against the Denver Broncos in the playoffs and you have George Pickens as your number one weapon. That would be very needed. Honestly, I think we have a different outcome. Yesterday we were, we were going to talk about Brian Thomas Jr. and where we want him to go. And I was thinking about.
you know if he were to be traded obviously he's under contract right now with the with the jaguars it doesn't seem like he's going anywhere but the the comment of like oh just put him on the bills because they need an alpha wide receiver one so bad but is he but that was like is he exactly when you talk about george pickens he is he is and i'm and i'm very confident if he went there he would just dominate if he were to be traded right now would he go in this first round he honestly I was staring him down I like I can't put him in the first because I we just don't know but even if he if he stays if he stays in Dallas he's probably a second round pick if he goes to Buffalo I don't know if he can sneak into the first I don't I think he'll probably he would probably stay around the same range I would think I'll bet he I mean it to me it's like him or Justin Jefferson oh I would I I
Yeah, exactly. You start to answer quick and then you go, oh, there's a lot to think through there. Yeah, I don't want to. I think it's George. Let's get into the mock. The fantasy footballers mock draft. All right, some fun, February fun. Who put that R in there? Some stupid Englishman. February. It's ridiculous. But some fun, February fun here as we're looking at the high end, the top guys that we're thinking about. The 101, I will not let you wait any longer. I will break the suspense. It's Bijon Robinson. Oh, man. I thought I'd get him. Bejohn Robinson, Atlanta Falcons. We already touched on it at the top. He was just on the field, the best running back in the NFL. I don't think it's even close. And that's not a disrespect to.
You're like Gibbs and company of guys who are truly elite. Bijon is just different. And the fact that Alger might be moving on is exciting. It really, like if we can truly get Bijan all of those touches in the green zone, he would end up lapping the field, I believe. So I'm taking him confidently with the first pick. Good luck now. Yeah, I know. Now it gets much more dicey when you actually have to put some of these guys in the same tier in order. You know, you've got the three pack of wide receivers we've talked about recently, Puka Nakua, JSN, and Jamar Chase. I'm probably going to take one of them. You've got another tier of running backs. I'm curious where the running backs, what the order they go in here. Obviously, Christian McCaffrey was the number one fantasy asset this last year, but now a lot of workload, another year older.
Whatever. We'll see how strong you are, Mike. He's the CMC. Yeah. Gibbs, who obviously can be super explosive. Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor, I think, is at this moment in time, he's the hardest one to evaluate because up until the Daniel Jones injury, he was the number one guy by points per game. So I guess when I'm saying how great Bijon was, Jonathan Taylor, go ahead, take offense to that. But it really fizzled out in the second half. because they didn't have a quarterback. Meanwhile, Bijan's getting it done with the likes of Michael Pennix and this version of Kurt Cousins. So that's what I'm saying. That's why Bijan's at the top for me. But Taylor's like, where will he go in this first round? Well, he will not go at number two. Okay. Because at number two, I'm going to take Jamar Chase. That's the three-pack. A wise man. That's exactly what I would have done.
Puka is awesome, so consistent, but his play style gets himself injured. JSN, they're coming off of a Super Bowl season. They're going to be playing a number one schedule. I mean, these are splitting hairs, but when you've got Jamar Chase is, I think, the most talented of those three. And I think his quarterback is the best of those three. So you've got to swing for the fences, even though things tend to always go wrong for the Bengals. Sure. I mean, they went pretty right for Jamar Chase, the wide receiver four on the season. even with a catastrophic first month. If you don't remember how bad it was in the first month, week one, Jamar Chase scored 3.6 points and a half PPR. Week 2, Electric, he's the wide receiver 3. Unfortunately, though, Joe Burrow gets hurt in that game, which leads to 6.4 points in week 3 against Minnesota, 4.8 points against Denver, and then...
The magic that was Joe Flacco, number one, being traded interdivision. Yeah. Number two, it's Joe Flacko. As much as we, you know, like, we praise Joe Flacko for fantasy football purposes on this show because in his elder years, he really has come through. But. He did the thing. Him showing up. Oh, yeah, he did. He did the thing that we've always said. Why don't you just throw it to your best player every play? How about? 23 times. He threw the ball to Jamar Chase 23 times in one game. Some quarterbacks don't throw the ball. They don't drop back 23 times in a game. Unfortunately, very, very lazy. Yet, co-champ of the League of Record, Kyle's not here because I would ask, what is the most targets anyone's ever gotten in a game?
I don't know if we have anyone who could be a crack researcher. Oh, gosh. Matt is so sweaty right now. Oh, man. Do you even know how to research, Matt? He doesn't know how to spell research. He doesn't know how to spell research. I'm going to ask chat GPT real quick. Oh, that's going to work. It looks like 71 targets in a game once. But keep us posted if it sounds remotely good and we definitely won't report it. Yeah, I would have taken Jamar Chase at number two. And here's the thing. Puka has, I mean, he. He has his touchdown situation with Devante Adams. Adams will be back. Oh, Matt is saying Brandon Marshall with 28 targets. Sounds reasonable. That's awesome. It sounds reasonable. Sounds like him with the Jets. Oh, yeah. Was that Jets or Bears? Broncos. Broncos. I mean. Oh, you got it totally wrong. Puka has the touchdown situation with Devante Adams. And I can't imagine Adams is not back. And then Puka has a new O.C.
I'm sorry, JSN. Jason is going to be one of these first four picks, but we're just saying for things that have changed, Jamar Chase and company, they're running it back. And we love that. We want them to run back that defense as well. So you went Jamar, that's who I would have taken at number two. So at number three, I'm going to go with Pooka Nakua in this spot. Oh, Jeremy is saying Chase's 23 targets were tied for the third most in a game. Chris Chambers head. 26 back in 2005. 23 is still pretty good. All right, I'm going to Puka Nakua here at the third overall pick. Yes, everything we said about wide receivers, how scoring was down, especially in that wide receiver 2 range, but the elite of the elite were still difference makers. So I'm going to go ahead and jump on board here with Puka. He's just, as we, as you said in the office, Jason, thank goodness Puka found football.
yeah because yeah what would that that puka crazy guy be doing he'd be can we get this man a handler i think he would we need a p r handler to just be annoying all the other construction workers you know what i mean he'd be like oh puka come down just put the next brick it is he's ridiculously good at football i love him that's where that's where i'm going to go before we get into your next pick jason we're going to take a quick break all right we're back wait josh puka pukas he just he just said that he like skydiving that's that was the response i like skydiving puka's shooting his shot publicly on social media yeah yeah it was pretty funny oh my gosh puka all right anyways he's good at football he's good for fancy football jason he's a fun time um this makes it very easy to me i i
To me it goes Bijon Robinson and then the three pack of wide receivers. That's how I had it too. Before questioning whether it's the next wide receiver up or the next running back up. So I'll take JSN. I don't have a lot of fears here. He is going to have 30% of the targets. And if you get 30% or more of the targets, you're pretty much a guaranteed wide receiver one. He's great around the end zone. Somehow is always open and obviously had the breakout. Super Bowl champs, easy. I don't think there's much to explain there. All right. It does get a bit more difficult here. I want to, you know, like there's the loyalty bump, the pay for what you did for me, but we can't do that in fantasy football. And so no, I will not be taking Christian McCaffrey at this spot. Not yet. No. No, picking McCaffrey right here.
how I feel about the the 2006, that would be the coward move. It's just be like, no, I'm just going to take Christian McCaffrey. Interesting. Who is in my list, he will go in this first round. But for me, with what I'm projecting to happen for, the Detroit Lions and the seeming to be phased out, David Montgomery, lots of rumors abound of, well, he even be on this team. Now I know it's, you know, the devil you know, is if Montgomery's on the team. It's Gibbs and Monty, and Gibbs took over. You know, Monty, despite Guns Mahoney, aka Dan Campbell's insistence that we're going to get David Montgomery more involved in the game plan, he was just miss speaking because he meant Jemir Gibbs, because that's what they actually did. A guy who can, you know, the rattle off multiple games of three or more touchdowns, and it was
Unfortunately, if you had Gibbs, there was the collapse at the worst possible time in championship week. But if you had Gibbs, there's a good chance you snuck into the fancy playoffs and he got you to the championship game. So I'm going to take Gibbs here as my RB2. Yeah, that makes sense. Personally, I would take the guy that I'm going to take now over him. And it is, again, not Christian McCaffrey. It's actually Jonathan Taylor. Okay. I think that when the Colts. get reset this offseason. They dealt with so many just terrible injuries down the stretch, obviously none bigger than the one to Daniel Jones. But it's hard to remember how good they were, how dominant they were. They were beating the crap at it. They were. They needed three quarters to pretty much shut down their offense every game. And injuries piled up. And it made Jonathan Taylor into a very consistent, good...
fantasy option, but it took him away from being, I can't lose in fantasy football because I've got Jonathan Taylor. His first 10 games, Jonathan Taylor hit the 30 point marker five times. Oh my gosh. It was so good. He was so good when I had you and you were healthy. He was outrageous and that included what three? No, I'm sorry, four. number one overall finishes, including week two against the Denver Broncos, who as we... Pretty good difference. As we learned throughout the season, they were in elite defense. And then the masterpiece before everything, and honestly, it didn't collapse for Jonathan Taylor over the second half after the by week because you had, you know, 13.6 against Houston, 11.4, 11.6, 15. Yeah, that's what I said. He was a really good option, but he wasn't a dominant.
The masterpiece was right before the bi-week against the Atlanta Falcons, 32 carries 244 yards on the ground, three touchdowns, three for 42 through the air. Almost 50 fantasy points. I mean, you won that week. Yes, I did. Yes, I did, Mike. That's, at that, that's the part, that's the part where you probably went all in. Yeah, that is exactly what happened. I was like, I'm going to live forever. Nothing bad can happen. Yeah. And then you won the championship and I didn't. That's where the luck portion of fantasy football shows up and can really derail and disenfranchise people. But Taylor is difficult for me because the second half numbers are good. But the second half numbers are not first round running back numbers. And I just don't know what do they? I mean, number one, Daniel Jones is not technically under contract.
I think he gets a big payday from the Colts. Yeah. But he will have to rehab and recover. And like how much Anthony Richardson do you get at the beginning of the year? Because Anthony Richards, Jonathan Taylor with Anthony Richardson has not been good for fantasy. I will say this. If it turns out that Jonathan Taylor has an opposite season to what he just had, where he gets off to a decent but slow start, And as the team gets healthy and Daniel Jones comes back and the playoffs, you get this monster. You win the championship. Yeah, you absolutely could. I will not be scared off of his situation. He's too good of a running back too special of a human. We always bring up Derek Henry when it comes to the outlier human being. Personally, I think Jonathan Taylor is in that boat. I know he doesn't weigh 250 pounds, but he is.
and always has been a different breed. He dealt with injuries. We forget that his second year in the league, like he was the running back one overall in fantasy. Then he dealt with injuries for a while. Bad quarterback play bad team. As soon as he's back to a good team, it was the running back one and then quarterback injury. It hasn't been a pretty ride, but he is just too special. All right. So that puts me up. Yes, sir. You took Jonathan Taylor. There are. Two players who I think that they're really, really close in tier. And this is where I would take McCaffrey. If you don't take my next guy with your next pick, that'll make it easy for me. And who would be? Why don't you pick it? I already know who I'm taking. Okay. But Christian McCaffrey, the workload was.
Just absolutely outrageous. So that definitely is a red flag. 440 opportunities for Christian McCaffrey. I mean, 100 receptions, 102 for 924 yards. He was the focal point of the offense. I think he will remain the focal point of the offense. They have a lot to decide with Brandon Ayyuk speeding his way out of San Francisco. We still aren't sure if Ricky Pearsall is an answer. I think Jennings is up for, I mean, Jennings always wants more money. Jennings. So, I mean, there's a lot to find out. And then the biggest piece of all is George Kittle with his Achilles tear right in the postseason, right? Yeah. So George Kittle will be really up against it to be back to start the year. And like there's a difference. There's a huge.