Fantasy Football - Super Bowl Reactions + Temp Checks, Offseason Begins! - Podcast for 2/10

to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in. We can finally start 2026 season, Andy. Thank goodness for that. Oh, my goodness. Put a bow on Mike Wright's season and let's just. The year of Mike. It's over. It is finished. It is. in the rear view mirror, but it did. And you will never take it away from me. Nor forget it. I mean, welcome in one and all. The Super Bowl is over. And just like Mike said at the top of the year, Ken Walker will be the Super Bowl MVP. When I, yeah, when I started the season with fantasy MVP, what I meant was Super Bowl MVP. Was in your fantasy season. He will not help you very much. But he will be the MVP of the. But he will be immortalized.

Unbelievable. Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks. We all watched the game together at Jason's house. And you knew from the jump what Mike was going to be rooting for, which is one thing. Yeah. Ken Walker MVP. Two. I would have taken a Hendo, but I knew he was not going to. I knew it wasn't going to work. Sometimes on the year of Mike, you would think everything you want could come true. Oh, that's not how it happens. But when some things are, you know, they go against each other. Like Hindo and Walker can't both do it. Right. So Ken Walker ends up the MVP. This was not an exciting ball game. Oh, this game. Look, I got some flack and some support. It's, it's what happens every time you say anything wise. Um, but the whole like defense, look, defense is not as fun to watch as offense. That is an objective fact. I'm not saying that defense is can't be.

great or can't be fun to watch but like nobody out there is rooting for a three nothing ball game no one ever like that's just not why we watch football and so yeah most of this game was pretty boring it was two great defenses yeah wasn't a super bowl it was a regular bowl yeah an ordinary bowl yeah it was a bad bowl an average an average bowl but look it was just domination and look got a lot of flack criticizing the schedule for for new england yeah Didn't look like they belonged. Frankly, their defense played great. Their defense was awesome. Drake May had the worst three-game run of the playoffs that we've seen ever, ever, ever. I genuinely believe that his shoulder is injured. I mean, they said he took the shot pregame. You know, that's going to be like an AC joint spray. So he's injured. Now, presumably he got injured the last game. So that doesn't excuse all three of those games, although he was up against.

really good defenses throughout the process. And a blizzard. All of his, you know, all of his throws this game were just like behind the wide receiver. Every throw was just off the mark. That's where it's like, man, he had the injury has to be worse than we thought because that even with schedule and strength of defenses and everything, like Drake May was really accurate. Yeah, his ball placement this year has been great. It was awesome. And he was not hitting on all cylinders. So that part's a little bit disappointing, but Ken Walker. Kenneth Walker, everybody. 27 for 135. The Seahawks will have like, for fantasy purposes, there will be some big time decisions to make for them this offseason. JSN up for an extension. I think Witherspoon. I think Kobe Bryant. I think obviously Ken Walker is a free agent. They will need to spend some money to stay on top. I believe they have the sixth most projected cap space.

So Schneider over there is doing excellent work, the only general manager now to build two different Super Bowl champions that shared no players and no coaches. I mean, that's, that's an amazing job. And should I have to flee the Arizona Cardinals? Oh, are you considering it now? They're up for consideration. Okay. Well, I'm sure you'll have to. It is a special weekend. Oh, hey. Yeah, you're not the only one that gets Lady Gaga. We got her to. The UDK. Pre-order sale available right now, Ultimate DriveKit.com. It was very expensive. Yeah. Good job, Gaga. Yeah, that was. That's what I call it. You just call her Gaga. Yeah. You know, like Lady G or something like that. No, no. We're closer than that. Okay. Gaga. Those of you. The entire producer's alley is. This is the loudest I've ever heard. I'm in offseason mode.

No, we all are. We all. Yeah. We, uh, we're still doing a show, but man, we are in offseason mode. We will have the free agency and the draft and all that stuff is on the way. But, um, brand new ultimate draft kit app, right? The, the dynasty pass and all of our, uh, dynasty startup rankings and team opportunity charts and all of that early access stuff available at ultimate draft kit.com. They are alive. If you pick it up before March 1st, you will be entered to win a listener league spot to play with us. It is the lowest price you can get on the UDK or UDK Plus. And then if you're an Ultimate Foot Clan supporter, you didn't have to do nothing. And you're still in the, well, yeah, you should log in. And update the app. In the contest for the Listernal League automatically forever, every time we have one. Yeah. So ultimate draft kit.com, if you want to grab that, that's where you can go. Anything else from the big game you guys want to talk about? Obviously, I mean, Charbonnet being injured was.

Pretty good news for Seahawks fans. Yeah. That finally let the team say, hey, Ken Walker, what happens if we give you 27 carries? Oh, good things. And you win a Super Bowl MVP. There was a, Andy wasn't joking towards the second half of the game. There was only at that point when it kind of looked like, okay, this is going to be the Seahawks. We just got to let it play out. The only thing anybody is watching for is Ken. Ken Walker get Super Bowl MVP. Darnold throws a touchdown and you're all upset because now Darnold's got one. We got pretty, I mean me. I got pretty nervous that is like, okay. But then later you give it to Darnel, but he's completely 50% of his passes in the fourth. When Kenneth Walker rips off that 50 yard touchdown run. Oh man. And you're like celebrating and it's like it. I mean at that point it's over 200 all purpose yards, you know, one of the only two touchdowns in the game.

and then it got called back on a flag. So then the game is over. We're just waiting. And you just, you see him standing back on the stage and you're like, he wouldn't be there. He wouldn't be there if he's not the MVP. That was just fun time. Talk to me about Kenneth Walker instant reaction for fantasy 2026. I mean, the Charbonnet's injury is significant. He's a part of the committee, but won't probably be full strength by the start of the season. If Walker's under contract for Seattle, which I think is a possibility, you talked about the cap space, he said he wants to be there. Did this playoff run, the injury to Charbonnet changed the entire landscape for how he's going to be drafted? I mean, you do have, you'll have a new OC. Clint Kubiak officially taking the job with the Raiders. Which, I mean, there's, there's no way they put Gentie and something like that. Right? A committee? Yeah.

I don't know. You don't like, you know, like Walker was always a, there was always other running backs up there for Walker, but he was, I mean, this was his like lowest rushing share. And for him, he'll have to decide does, well, money, number one, money talks, but let's say money is all pretty relative and the same. Does Walker want to be in a time share? Or if there are, will they tell him, hey, if you come back for this money, we're not going to do. what we did last year and keep pulling you off the field for touchdowns because guys want yards but players want to score offensive players want touchdowns kenneth walker and if he's money if he's given equal money everywhere

and he knows he's going to be in a timeshare in Seattle. He will still come back. They just won a Super Bowl. This is his home. That's where he wants to go. The only way he leaves Seattle is someone who pays a lot of money, which he very well might have just earned that payday from someone. The ask just went up. This is a very down rookie draft class for running backs so far of what I've seen from punnets, my scouting. There's like only two running backs I really like. Last year it was like chalk full of. great rookie running backs this year it's it's a weaker draft class which means these free agents are going to have heavier bidding when free agency opens here in a month and because jams can't just look to the draft say ah i'll take one of these 10 12 guys that i like in the in the draft there's only a handful of players that are true obvious only show in town running backs i mean the derrick henry

Christian McCaffrey, Saquan Barkley, Josh Jacobs. Most running backs are in some sort of committee. I don't think Walker is in the tier of Sequin. I don't think a team is going to pay him like that. So I think he's going to run the risk of, I mean, Bijon Robinson spent time in a pretty heavy Tyler Alger committee. If you have a player that you have confidence in like they do with Charbonnet, that's going to happen. And you got to remember going into the year, the context for Ken Walker, multiple seasons. of constantly being banged up and injured. He avoided that this year. You look at, you're like, oh my gosh, maybe it's because they gave him a bunch of time off the field. You know, it's like, uh, they're certainly not going to, they're certainly not going to try to change things after winning the Super Bowl in a wholesale fashion. I mean, last night, Halani was on the field plenty of times, much to Mike Chagrig. Yeah. Just giving him a breath. I'm shocked looking at the box score of, of Halani had three touches.

I felt like he was out there way more than that, but maybe it's my paranoia. But for the timeshare, it just comes down to Will Walker get the high value touches. And I feel like if he goes back, that eventually it will still, I think they'll fall back into the old habit of giving, like, Sharps is bigger. We need the bigger guy at the goal line. There's not that many teams. that you could say you're going to go out, spend the money on Walker, and bring him in to be the main guy. There just aren't that many teams at those kind of opportunities. You could look at maybe. Is New Orleans going to move on from Camara at some point? I don't know. You've got Washington, we know, as a hole there. We just need 65%. I'm looking at these teams. There's just not a lot of those opportunities out there. In Seattle's, they won it all. They'll bring them back, I think. I think they'll bring them back. Final?

week of fantasy face-off, just giving you the rundown of the way this season ended up in our final Super Bowl fantasy face-off, Mike ended up losing? Yeah, I did, over on prize picks, but I did what I had to do, America. Yeah, you said that you took the- I took the less on, on Walker's rushing yards. One, because I thought the number of getting to, you know, the almost 80 rushing yards. I was like, that- The Patriots defense is... Can't doubt my guy, Mike. They're very, very good. But it was simply I sacrificed myself clearly so that Kenneth Walker could be...

the MVP. Yeah, and you did a great job at that. Mine went pretty well. I had JSN less than 91 and a half receiving yards. That was great. Kenneth Walker over three and a half targets. That was great. One overthrow from not looking very good. Yeah. And then what's crazy though, I knew Hunter Henry, I had him at five targets. It was the line and he hit five targets. So I knew that one would wash. Right. So I was curious how much cash I won. because my other one was, you know, less yardage on Drake May. Right. You mean I went this morning? It was like, wait a minute. Wait, because halfway through that game, three quarters through the game, I mean, Drake May's done nothing. Are you sure? Wait, he threw for 295 yards? He had 56 yards in the third quarter. It was, yeah, exactly. I mean, I didn't even, I didn't count.

the garbage time in my mind yeah i was blown away when i went i went uh two or four yeah i was two or four as well mike i think you were one of four the official shame counts for 2025 i was shamed eight times congratulations you are the winner uh jason five times mike six times including the super bowl um i guess the all the deucers were one one time yeah week 12 so um Yeah, the way the season started, I was feeling good. Mike was three out of the first four. Yeah, well, I might, I hadn't engaged the year yet. But then I went on a heck of a run, boys. Yeah. And then at the end of the year, I took time off as well. I need to fix the middle of the season. But, yeah, remember hashtag triple gobble? Those guys. All right. Let's talk some news. News and notes from around the league. He's bad. Oh, man. Oh, crazy eyes.

The OGB hole. After the OGB hole indeed. The OGBH. That would be Adam Gaze. He is back in the NFL after a five-year hiatus. Oh, it just feels like yesterday he was the OGB hole. Yes. Coming back to the Chargers to be an assistant focused on the passing game. Okay. All right. As long as the plays are being called by Mike McDaniel. And. Normally, it's other reporters who catch strays on this show. Like, you got a new favorite? It's, I mean, look, it's Rappaport, but this is a tweet that Rappaport put out. Adam Gase has worked with quarterbacks such as Peyton Manning, Jay Cutler, and Sam Darnold setting records with Manning as OC. Now he set to work with Justin Herbert. Like, you're, you're now giving.

Adam Gay's credit for the time that he spent working with Sam Darnold? It didn't go well. Sam Darnold was a catastrophic bust of a pick. Yeah, and now you're just going to, oh, Super Bowl. Zach Wilson, don't forget Zach Wilson. I mean, it's like, what are we doing here? That's nonsense. We're just tweeting. We're just tweeting. He worked with him. Just tweeting away, man. He almost, he almost ruined the man's career. Yeah, he's back. Like, he had to go to hell and back. and reform everything. It's funny listening to Darnold talk about what happened for him in his career. He said, you know, he got off to a hard, a tough start. Do you think? And he said it wasn't until he got to San Francisco for a year and worked with Brock Purdy and Kyle Shanahan that he figured out. He gave them tons of credit, basically saying. Yeah, but he brought up gays and how influential he was. He was influential.

In the other way. I haven't seen this one. So he thought he was giving Crout to Shanney. Yeah, basically, quarterbacks need to be well coached when they come out of college. Just ask Caleb Williams. Yeah, they need to be. There are good ones and bad ones to teach them or to just assume, oh yeah, okay, you know what you need to do. Go be a star. And obviously, it's just like the quarterback position. There aren't 32 guys out there. that can really take these quarterbacks to the next level. But when, when Darnel got with Shanahan, that happened. And so... Three years in New York, two in Carolina, one year in San Francisco with Shanahan, then the great season of Minnesota, and then Seattle as a Super Bowl champion. I wonder if teams could trade like a rental, can I send, like a draft pick? You get a second round quarterback or a late first round quarterback, and it's like, I'm going to trade them to the Niners.

Oh, like a training. For one year, you get them for one year and we'll give you a fourth round pick and then we get them back. Like, you know what I mean? Just go train under Shanahan. Like sending him to a summer camp. Yeah, exactly. The Darnold thing is, it's insane. Like if J.J. McCarthy doesn't tear his meniscus, the rookie year. Do we know this happen? Yeah, does any of this happen? It's not like this? Well, based on how JJ played. Yes, it would have. Well, I'm saying like, but at that point now you're like, how many games played? How have they lost? And we're like, okay, we got to put Darnold in and just what you just said is that if JJ wasn't injured early enough in his rookie year, that this year the Vikings would have won the championship. Quite because the second half of the year from Donald, they'd be like, we got to sign this guy. He would be their quarterback this year. Oh, by the way, I don't.

I think Donald's going to be their quarterback next year. Yeah, I think so. I think he's going to end up. I don't think remember if he failed in the playoffs, maybe he wouldn't be. Yeah, he did all right. And it is official now. Gino Smith went from the first place Super Bowl champion team to the first pick in the NFL draft team. Good job, Gina. And lost a starting opportunity. Now it'll go to Clint Kubiak. and Fernando Mendoza. Mendoza will be the number one pick. It is a, I mean, Kubiak, masterful job. Bowers, Genti Mendoza. That's fun. Doesn't sound like Max Crosby wants to hang around, but we'll see. It's really cool. I know that Kenneth Walker was in a timeshare, and we don't necessarily love that, but I don't know that that's a cubes thing versus more of a philosophy of the head coach.

Cubes has a great run system. And so Genti now with Kubiak coming in, I'm really excited to see that. Spend every pick you have that isn't Mendoza on the offensive line. Yes. You need it for Genti. You need it for Mendoza. Just solidify that. Do whatever. Look what the Bears did. Yeah, what Chicago did in the offseason. That's what you got to do. That's a tough division. Because two years ago, Walker was. 76% of running back attempts in games played, and he was down at 50% this year. It's probably the fact that he couldn't stay healthy. It's the health, man. It's the health. And now all of a sudden he did stay healthy and was real fresh legs for the Super Bowl. Look, Ken Walker is a very good running back, but he's also played a lot of years, and there are weaknesses in his game. And so I think that's what they loved about Sharbs. Sharbs was like the guy that goes in and just...

Yes, he's not, I know he's not explosive and he's, and that bothers us in fantasy. But he's just like he does the job. He knows all the rules. He gets in the end zone. He knows all the rules. Yeah, I mean, like Ken Walker's biggest problem. He could ref this game, man. He's so good at knowing the rules. I said that. That one is that not correct. I don't think it's, Walker likes the big play. It's not impossible to me that someone pops up on the Raiders and we're like, Why do they keep giving him the touchdowns? Well, we're not going to, I mean, is your year over with yet? I won't doubt you. I don't know. I don't know. The Cowboys are expected to place the franchise tag on George Pickens. Is the only way forward. I have heard no matter what. I have heard that he may tag and trade. It could be a tag and trade. So we'll see. Cliff Kingsbury is joining the Rams. So smart, you wily devil. I mean, Cliff Kingsbury. You'll get all the trade from McVeigh.

Cliff Kingsbury joining the Rams as soon as Stafford announced that he is back at the Hall of Fame, the NFL honors event, and Cliff Kingsbury, unrelated head coach in 2027. Yep. It's happening. No, that, yeah, the opportunities weren't. I think you would have, I think if it wasn't just like Arizona and the Raiders sitting as the final two teams with the job, he might have gotten one this year. He's not going back to Arizona. We know that. And then Tom Pellasero, your favorite dude, says the odds are increasing that Aaron Rogers returns. Oh boy. Well, you got to come back and play a year with your old coach. I got to look those articles back up. I just remember when that falling apart happened, the articles that were written about the Packers and just how much problems there were with McCarthy and Rogers. I don't remember it anymore, but now it seems like it's all fine. There was some finger pointing in the media.

But I don't think that I think the length of time that they had together as quarterback and coach was maybe not so bad. We'll see. We know that McCarthy said he wants him back. So, I mean, it was one of the first things he said. What is the best scenario for your quarterback? Is it Rogers coming back? Yep, that's the best scenario. Because the depth chart is Mason, Rudolph, and Will Howard. I think some people want to see some Will Howard out there. I don't know. We'll take a break. We'll come back with some mailbag. All right, before we get into the mailbag, just to...

continue the conversation there about Pittsburgh and Rogers coming back. That's one of the toughest positions to be in as a team is when you have this really old future Hall of Fame or quarterback. Are they that close? You know what I mean? If you're not that close, you feel like you need to find your next man up. It's probably detrimental to your franchise to. bring him back. The two quarterbacks that are available on the market for a team like the Steelers. And I genuinely have a question for you guys that I think we should think through because it's Kyler and it's Tua, right? Kyler and Tua are currently not free agents, but they're available. They're not going to be the starting quarterback for their respective franchises. At least that's the expectation right now. Who is better to win a Super Bowl? Between, I would say, given those two options, I would trade for Mack Jones.

But Kyler and Tua. Kyler over Tua. I think it's Tua over Kyler. I mean, other than the head injury, I mean, that's the big worry there. But just the play deteriorated. Yeah, I mean, I'll take the running game of Kyler. If you want to call both of them insufficient pocket passers, I'll take the one that can scurry around. One of them literally led the NFL in passing yardage a couple years ago. Yeah, well, I don't think ineffective pocket passers. And one of them is doing the same Darnold. right now i mean for for san francisco former glory is not the debate here both have had former glory you're talking about two teams that want to get rid of these dudes they know the numbers yeah they don't go hmm he was the leader in the league ah why are we getting i mean they both suck now that's the problem i mean did you watch two last year i guess not enough i probably threw up your dinner i i think someone had to get

this you know had to fall on the sword when you're losing games and and having issues the crappy players do i mean he yeah yeah maybe i mean look it kiler first three years of the league unbelievable seasons it's just golly eight hundred nine rushing yards in a season where he threw for four thousand what happened he was going to be a star don't know ma'am cowardice cowardice and call of duty Are you telling me that if you had to choose a starter for theirs and a Cardinals next year, you would choose Tuatunga by Loa Jason Moore? No, I wouldn't. Over Kyler? No, I wouldn't. I was specific to the Steelers. I think the Steelers have a better defense and a better franchise. That's what you were asking. I think they're set up better for Tua's skill set than Kyler's. You could be right there. I thought you were just talking about moving forward with those guys. Mike, we're getting into mailbag. All right. We've got a ton of questions from the people.

We're into the off season, so who knows what these questions are going to be. But let's go. Mailbag. I'm going to tell you, I'm going to be honest with you. I had no idea if I had hit the mailbag drop yet. Yeah, I was really, that was a real 50-50 for me, whether I was hitting it for a second time and was going to get lit up on the show. I'm looking over to Deucer's Alley, like going, is he going to give me a look? I saw you looking at him. Yeah, dude. I was like, I meant. And then I realized it was the ad break I had hit. I knew exactly what was happening. You did? And I was not going to bail you. No, I knew you weren't. I knew there was a chance you guys are going to mock me for hitting it twice. But that's off-season mode. That's what we're in. All right. If you have a question for the show, you can always send it in to us. Go to the website to Fantasy Footballers.com. You can dial the voicemail hotline 302464 TFFB if you want to. We got a voicemail question to start us off. What's not ballers?

With my lions hiring your blobfish, aka Mr. Clean, you think Leporta, if healthy, has a sneaky shot at Tideon 1? Okay, so this is in reference to Drew Petzing being the new hire for offensive coordinator for the Lions and the fact that Trey McBride just had a career season for the blobfish. No, I don't think that this is a, Trey McBride is not a Drew Petzing system situation. Trey McBride is. maybe the most dominant receiving tight-in currently alive. So when you inherit a team where you've got a disappointing Marvin Harrison at the time, you know, it wasn't Jerry Rice as the wide receiver too. It was Trey McBride as your main focal point for the offense. So yeah, you build a... You see McBride's text to LaPorta though? No. The second that he got petting, McBride texted LaPorta and said, you're going to love it. You're going to eat.

I'm sure some of that is true, but the target competition, I mean, you've got Amon Raw St. Brown there, first of all. That's, that's, that's, Trey McBride was the leader of, more percent of the target. Yeah. Trey McBride was the target leader for the Cardinals by a wide margin. That's not even in the realm of possibility for Leporta. The thing that I would counterpoint you with, just for the sake of conversation, is that Sam Leporta was the number one overall tied in before. and it wasn't on targets. It wasn't getting targets like McBride. It was on touchdowns. He had 10 touchdowns in his rookie season, ended up number one at the position. He does have double-digit touchdown upside. He did say sneaky shot at Titan 1. It's not going to be likely when competing with the high target guys. But if you told me next year, Sam Leporta scores 13 times or something, that's not outside the realm of possibility. Certainly. I mean, the offense.