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The Year of Mike is declared finished but unforgettable. Kenneth Walker's Super Bowl MVP lets Mike redefine his preseason fantasy-MVP call as the prediction he meant all along; at the group watch party in Jason's house, Walker MVP was his only rooting interest, and Mike later calls his losing Faceoff pick against Walker a deliberate sacrifice.
Buying the UDK before March 1 enters a listener for a league spot, while Ultimate FootClan supporters are described as automatically entered every time the contest exists, provided they log in and update the app.
The final Fantasy Faceoff audit gives Andy eight shames, Jason five, Mike six including the Super Bowl, and the Deucers one in week twelve. The review then explicitly remembers hashtag triple gobble.
A host cannot remember whether he already pressed the mailbag cue and looks toward Deucer's Alley for a confirming glance. He realizes the earlier button was the ad break, while another host admits understanding the mistake but intentionally refusing to bail him out; the desk calls it offseason mode.
A listener notices Newman's missing glasses and head on Andy's side of the desk. The hosts say Newman was decapitated after Andy knocked the prop off during a Spitballers ice-cream debate; the glasses are long gone, leaving Newman unable to see.
Asked for championship totals, the hosts choose the League of Record and state a 4-3-2 tally, explicitly identifying Andy as the three while leaving the speakers claiming four and two unlabeled. The desk says Al has one; after Josh is addressed, a nearby unlabeled reply reports one league title and one dynasty title.
The hosts compare letting the Falcon host to drinking poison and building a cactus recliner, then activate Deucer Cam and ask Matt to choose Marvin Harrison or Brian Thomas. He chooses Marvin on draft capital without knowing exactly why; the hosts declare the question answered, roast how close he came to giving only the name, and worry about his wedding vows and film crew.
The show finally closes the Year of Mike. Kenneth Walker wins Super Bowl MVP, letting Mike reinterpret his preseason fantasy-MVP proclamation as a Super Bowl prediction that will now be immortalized. All three hosts watched the game at Jason's house, where Mike's obvious rooting interest was Walker; Mike also says he deliberately took the less on Walker in the final Fantasy Faceoff so his own lineup could be sacrificed for the MVP result. The UDK preorder again supplies a Listener League route before March 1, while Ultimate FootClan supporters are described as automatically entered every time. Fantasy Faceoff then publishes the 2025 shame table: Andy eight, Jason five, Mike six, and the Deucers one during week twelve, with triple gobble remembered by name. Offseason mode reaches the mailbag when a host cannot remember whether he already fired its cue, looks to Deucer's Alley for help, and learns he had actually hit the ad-break drop; another host admits he understood but would not bail him out. The desk's Newman prop is now decapitated and missing its glasses after Andy knocked it off during a Spitballers ice-cream argument. A championship question produces a dated League-of-Record scoreboard of 4-3-2 and explicitly identifies Andy as the three; the speaker who says 'I am the two' remains unlabeled. The desk also says Al has one, while an unlabeled reply after Josh is addressed reports one League-of-Record title and one dynasty title. Finally, the hosts compare letting the Falcon host to drinking poison and sitting in a cactus recliner. They cut to Deucer Cam for a one-question audition; Matt chooses Marvin Harrison over Brian Thomas because of draft capital, cannot explain much more, and is immediately declared finished before the hosts worry about his upcoming wedding vows and film crew.
and being able to score touchdowns. Laporte is a very good player. I guess I'm just saying I don't believe that it is simply a scheme fit from petting. I don't think petting is going to come over and do what he did with the Cardinals scheme with the lion scheme. The lions are a run first team with Omina Rae St. Brown as the possession receiver. That's not going to wholesale change. Obviously, the touchdowns could be there. All right. We'll go on to another question here from YouTube. Hey, ballers. Love the show. What is your guys temperature check on Titan Grande Gadsden? Is that the nickname? Arianna Grande Gadsden. What is the temp check on Gadsden? I think it is, I would say that it's an interesting player to talk about. I'll put it there. Yeah, especially for Dynasty Leagues. 22 years old, had a stretch run as a rookie where he, in a four-game stretch,
He had 377 receiving yards, which would be the most for any rookie in a four-game stretch of all time. But he had the MVP at quarterback, right? That's right. He did have a one-vote MVP getter. He's a fascinating conversation because he passed the film test, the eyeball test. He was so big and fast. And we all, yeah, I mean, is. We all fell in love right away when it looked like a break out was happening. And then he kind of. vanished and poofed away. Now you have some injuries that caused his emergence, but is Keenan Allen back? Is Keenan Allen gone? Um, obviously Quentin Johnston disappeared for a little while while Gadsden was good. I don't know that, that there's enough similar to Laporta. Is he going to be able to be high enough in the pecking order with Ladd McConkey and just talent?
It's just talent to me. You know, that's what you can bank on. You have a new offense with a new offensive coordinator. McDaniel is where... I mean, you have no offensive line last year. Not a lot of what you saw in the field from that offense is going to be repeatable moving forward, I think, for Los Angeles. So that doesn't mean that Gadsden breaks out or doesn't. But I will say that what he was capable of doing in that stretch was super impressive to me. And if an offensive coordinator like McDaniel has the ability... to do what he did with Darren Waller in late stages of career. To be able to use Giannu and turn him into a superstar at the end of a season. I think McDaniels is going to look at him and say, this is a special, unique athlete I can use in some capacity. Yeah, he really is. And I will say that even though it started with the Quentin Johnston injury in week six, there's always the, I mean, there's the opportunity that a player misses a season. And when you've got a tight end that can.
be that athletic and fill that void. Certainly, because week six, he missed. And that was basically the breakout week for Gatston, seven receptions for 68 yards. And then the next two weeks, Cuge was back, but this was right off the injury. It was seven for 164 in a touchdown and five for 77 in a touchdown. So if Cuge were to go down, what a three game run and then just gone. Well, then the next game, five for 77. The next game after that, five for 68. I mean, he, he's, he's really good. I don't know why it went away. I don't know if it was the offensive line injuries or. Well, that was a lot of it. They had to play more blocking type of tight ends. I mean, my temperature is Luke room. It's like a room temperature. Yeah, is he, uh, he's in your dynasty pass tradeaway candidates? Yeah, because I think like I can, I can sell Gadsden. Like I can, I can make some hype and explain why it's.
a great opportunity which i feel like that is you can make it like you can sell the hype right now i mean it's not like overwhelming hype but there's in dynasty people are paying attention you can sell that as opposed to i think the the the chances of it truly working yeah i'm curious where you guys had him ranked we obviously just put together our dynasty rankings for the ultimate draft kit those are out you can look at them i've got my rankings pulled up in front but i've got them as a top 12 dynasty tight end. I'm pretty optimistic. If I had to shoot my shot, I would go get him. Yeah, I have more on that side. I haven't met eight. He's 20, he's 22 years old. And again, we're looking through this filter of strictly the fantasy production a lot of the times. He had that run. You remember he got banged up. Then it got cold for a little while, but you have some nice games mixed in there towards the end of the season, 61 yards, four catches. The athleticism at 22 years old, to me, it screams weapon.
Yeah. So I guess I lean a little bit more on the buy side. But, you know, sometimes you watch a tight end and you say you just make a decision. Got a couple good ones coming out in the draft this year too. Yeah. So we'll be having this conversation again. It should be pretty fun. All right. On the other side of Mike McDaniels, Nasty writes in and says, how far will the mighty Devon A-chan fall? 24 years old entering the final year of his rookie contract. No more to a tongue of I loa and no more Mike McDaniels. All right. Do I keep saying it? You do. You keep, you keep, you keep. He's got it. He's got it. Mike McDaniel. Yeah. He's got it in my head. It's Mike's McDaniel. Right. Okay. It's Mike's McDaniel. Thank you. He wasn't his year so much as it was your year. H-N is.
a very difficult evaluation right now. Where's his startup ranking? Because we've seen enough. A-chan is a difference-making running back. He's a star. Yes, he's a star player. But things change. When all of a sudden someone else is getting your goal line carries or, you know, your high value touches go down. Talking about Olly Go-Line Jr.? Yes. These things can be changed up with a new coaching staff and new philosophy. Where is he in your dynasty startup rankings? I'm going to go, Jason, that running back. Within the running back position, I have him as my running back seven, which is below. You have him behind Hampton? I have him behind Hampton, yeah. I have him at four. That's, I think, where he is. He's at three, but I see Hampton right there, and that's a.
If I had to pick them, if I'm in a startup draft, Hampton or HN, that's brutal. Yeah, I think this is one of the situations where my advice on HN will be not far and ignore the noise. Yeah, I would be letting it ride. I think I'm going to go with a superstar like this. He is. He's that good, man. He is too good to be. only scheme dependent. He has established himself as the best offensive player on the Miami Dolphins. So whatever coach comes in, it doesn't matter who it is. You're going to look at your roster and say, well, who am I building around? You're going to build around HN, period. Like full stop. He's too good to just be like, well. Do you get 87 targets, 85 targets? So that's the, to me it's touchdowns. Touchdowns is the big deal. If you look at his end of season, okay, the last three games you had no Tua.
That was when Tua got benched. And he was still very good. But he didn't get any touchdowns during that stretch. You're talking about running back 13, 15, 18. If you're the running back 13, 15, 18 every single week, you're, you're having a great season, but you're not a difference maker. The games before that, when he was with Tua, he was running back two, seven, four, eight. You know, he was more of a top end high. production guy getting touchdowns as well as yardage and passes. So will he be super involved? Yes. Is he extremely talented and will score a ton of fantasy points? Yes. Will without Tua and a new system in what looks to be kind of a rebuilding year for the Dolphins? Will he be able to be like a top four running back in fantasy? I'm doubtful. And then.
What happens at that point as a free agent? Where'd you go? He is the most consistent running back in football from a like he 100% of his games this year. He's an A this year and the team sucked most of the season. The nice thing about him. What box do you want to check with a running back? Pass catching. Yeah. Can he catch the belt? Can he catch a ball? Can he break a long touchdown? Oh, just all the time. Just all of the time. You know, this was somebody people really, really doubted drafting Highland drafts going into this year and whether it was going to work. So it'll be, it'll be interesting. I don't know who their quarterback's going right now. Is it going to be Quinn Ewers? I don't know if that's where they're going moving forward. Which teams are tanking for Arch? Yeah, and who do you bring in? Do you, do you roll with yours? Do you bring in a bridge quarterback and it's a mobile guy? And then all of a sudden you're like, oh, crap, is H.N. going to get?
40 to 50 targets? It's a big deal. To expand the conversation, you look at the dynasty starter rankings at running back, right? And the three I have ahead of them, Bejohn, Gibbs, Genti, right? But you look behind and you have question marks for a lot of those guys, right? Like Jonathan Taylor in a dynasty is three years older than Devon A-chan without a quarterback. And we don't like Jonathan Taylor without a quarterback right now. We'll see. He was a lot different. player when Daniel Jones is quarterback. So there, and in Hampton, like, is the sample size big enough for you? They're not that. I mean, I know he's younger than H.N., but it's, it's a year, a year and a half, whatever. It's like, is that a difference maker enough for you to take him over H.N. and hope that he is what we think he is. A lot of good questions. Trayvion's in that same discussion. What the heck is Bucky Irving? 23 years old. Quinchon Judkins, monster, 22 years old.
I think Dynasty Running Backs is a pretty fun, fun area, fun discussion. As long as I'm right about everything so that my teams are good. That's the important part. Fantasy running back, man, it changes so rapidly. Which is, ironically, that's where age versus contract, you know, you talk about the two years difference in Stampton versus. Staple position in Los Angeles. Yeah, so it's one of those like, Yeah, you're only two years younger or older, but how many years do you have left on your current contract? Like Jonathan Taylor just got a big new contract. So that's helpful when you're 27. You have fewer worries. A-chan end up with a big contract in Miami? Because he's gonna, it's a- He will end up with a big contract somewhere. Like to me, this is like Miami. I don't know. I don't think so. What's Gibbs contract situation? He's got to be up for it.
I mean, him and H.N. are probably both up for it this year, right? Yeah, Gibbs is going into year four. So he'll have the, you know, his fifth year option will get picked up. But this is about when you start rewarding players. All right. Elite players anyways. Let's take a quick break. Come back with some more questions. Today's show is brought to you by your friends over at prize picks. Shoot your shot on prize picks and get $50 instantly in lineups when you play your first $5. That's right. Prize picks is now giving you $50 in lineups when you sign up and play your first $5. Prize picks is simple to play. Just pick more or less on two to six player stat projections. If you get your picks right, you could cash in. We're talking all your favorite sports, basketball, baseball, hockey, UFC, soccer, college basketball, tennis, golf, e-sports, and more. And now prize picks has early payouts if your player gets off to a hot start.
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Those are long gone. He can't, he can't see anything right now. No, no. But that's what happened. No. It happened because Andy doesn't really know anything about Miixen's. Yes, that's true. I'll just let people go find out why you said that. Noah from Instagram, Brian Thomas Jr. or Marvin Harrison Jr. next year. Oh, yes. Yeah. Oh, man. Oh, that's sticky, stinky nasty stuff. Do you imagine, I mean, that combo for a dynasty team. You thought you were set for 10, 15 years. You were with the Eagles, bro. You were soaring. And now you're like, ooh, no. I, what? You have to go one of them, right? That's because it, like, okay, Lawrence and the offense. That's who I'd prefer to bet on. The Liam Cohen de low system seems to be very good for fantasy football, except.
Except he was in it this year while everyone was having success around him. What I was going to say is you have to go Marv. That's what I thought I was going to say. But I don't know if that's the right answer. But that's how I want to answer it. I'm going. I'm going Brian Thomas. I've got Marv to make sure my right. I've got Marv quite a few spots ahead of Brian Thomas. Marvin Harrison. Oh, they're back to back. I just got flip one spot, guys. Yeah, I think it's a shoot. I got Brian Thomas Jr. two spots ahead. A little bit more of an easy Marvin Harrison. Can I make them both lower? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Brian Thomas Jr. played the whole season and didn't do hardly anything other than drop a ton of targets early in the year. Let me show you this Marv guy. And then get usurped.
and then get usurped by Parker Washington and, you know, and the system. Marvin Harrison got injured, tried to play through it, couldn't, then missed a chunk of the season in his sophomore year. I, to me, I feel like Marvin Harrison is maybe a good trade for target because people are viewing him as a bust. And I don't think he is correct. Yeah, and I don't think he is established. We already know one of Jason's guy's. So I don't think he has established himself as a bust. Let me, let me give you funny numbers, okay? They better make me laugh. Yeah. So Marv missed four games. Not funny. Yeah, not funny. Brian Times Jr. missed three. BTJ ended 48 for 707. Marv ended 41 for 608.
Yeah, I mean, kind of. A couple of farts. Yeah, I mean, it was bad. But from the injury, how about before the injury? He was on pace for 990, 64 for 990. All right. Before the injury? Yeah. I mean, if he got 10 more yards and hit 1,000, would you say? No. No, a thousand's not that impressed. Who's playing just to dumb everything down in the new Arizona offense? Who's Puka? I mean, look, who's Michael Wilson? Between Marv and Michael. I think you're asking the same question. Yes. But I asked it first. I think you are asking that right question. And I think it is, to me, it's Michael Wilson is much more of a threat right now. Could Marv become that? Does Marv getting the clean slate? Because this is one or two directions for Marv this year. There's either year three figures it out and it works and you've got a better coordinator and then his dad and everybody can say, look, this was the problem. It wasn't my son.
The other option is the, like, they're getting the stamp and they're hitting the pad and they're putting bust down on the piece of paper. You go three years? Yeah. Drafted in the top five? Brian Thomas has at least done it. So I would go that direction. Dude, dude. I don't like this. I want inceasing. I feel like this question was written by Mike. Instagram question from t. Why? How many championships total for each person on the pod? Oh, I did not ask this question. So let's just do the most important league. League of record. Oh, sure. I have four. In that league, four, three, two. Yeah. Andy is the three. I am the two. Yep. Four three two. Four is the most of. If you go, if you go to our dynasty league, it's two to two, right? Correct. Yes. Yeah. Woof. Woof.
And Al's got one back there. Oh, no, Josh. Josh, you have. Are you one? League of Record or two? Let's go Ducer's Al. One on league and one in Dino. All right. And if you go to Dino Jr., then Mike and I dominate that with our three in a row. This question is stupid. It won't make you laugh. It'll make you cry. New Wallace. Would you ever let the Falcon host? Would you ever drink poison? Oh my gosh. Would we let the house? Would you ever make a. reclining chair out of cactus i mean host what the show no no don't start that hi hold on hold on all right go to the deucey cam matt marvin harrison jr or brian thomas junior in a dynasty league which one do you want and why uh marv and i don't know why exactly but i'd probably just go draft capital okay perfect mike
Excellent work. We have answered your question. That was outstanding. That was outstanding. Amazing. All right. At least we didn't get a ble. E Salazar wants to. I thought for a second. I thought for a second. I thought I was going to have me. I thought for say he said Marvin Harrison and just didn't answer anything beyond that. And I think he've honestly forgot and then heard the follow up question of his mind of like. and why he's getting married pretty soon i am worried about him up on that altar yeah oh you're not doing your own vows right you just have to say i do you've got the i do bled oh man okay yeah i'm not you got to make sure there's a good film crew there's going to be some special crash outs uh prediction for the number one overall pick next year east alazar writes in number one overall fantasy pick bejean be jean
Yeah. I'll say that I don't have any problem with people taking one of the three wide receivers. Correct. One of the three wide receivers, which would be Jamar Chase, Pooka, and Jason and Jason. Scott writes in, do you think the retreading of NFL coaches is caused by the lack of a desire and talent of college coaches wanting to go to the NFL? Life's all right as a college coach. I'm going to say that right now. You can get paid some big money. I don't think it's that. It's a different game. Yes, it's much different. Your skills and talents and abilities, I mean, you've got to be able to, like, really, you've got to be able to recruit players in college. I don't think it is that it's just, it's a really, really hard, demanding job. And you are publicly scrutin out. You're rewarded handsomely with money, but you're in the public eye and you, more often than not just have everyone.
telling you how much they hate you and how bad you are at your job. Which job? The college one or the pro one? The pro one. Okay. Yeah, I mean, coaching in general is just the craziest career. It just is. Like all jobs, all coaches are, they get fired. That's just part, if part of your job is to regularly move on, you either get fired or move on. There's not like a permanence to any of it. It's a hard life to have a family with. Right. You're moving around the country all the time, raising your kids in different cities and getting run out of town and getting things written about your dad in the newspaper. And even if you're not, even if you're not a head coach. I mean, let's say you're an assistant. Okay, you're good. Well, then you move on and up. So maybe you move teams. Let's say you're fine. You're not bad. You're not going to get fired. The head coach is going to get fired. What happens when he gets fired? You're gone. Your staff is gone. Yeah. It's just this is a.
That is a yuck, yuck job. I mean, yeah, that's one way to put it. I would personally, if I could choose, I would choose to be the owner of the franchise. It's the kind of job coaching where you could win like, I don't know, six Super Bowls and not even make the Hall of Fame. Not even get the respect of the Hall of Fame. That is going to do it. Ultimate draft kit.com for the pre-order right here, right now. Go over there. You can access the dynasty pass in the app immediately. So you want to check that out. Thanks for joining us today. We'll catch you on Thursday. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join thefoot.com. And follow us on Twitter at theFF ballers.