Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Week 8 Matchups, In-or-Out, Garbage Bortles

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tweet at us. Let us see what you got. All right. Speaking of David Johnson, let's talk Cardinals Panthers. This is a 47.5 point over under. The Panthers are favored in this game coming off the by. You've got Cam Newton. Jonathan Stewart, Kelvin Benjamin, and Greg Olson is the fantasy relevant Panthers. Are there any narratives there that we need to pay attention to? How confident are you in Jonathan Stewart in this matchup against the Cardinals' run defense on the road? Not very. Yeah, not very. I'm still okay playing him as a.

expecting that running back to production. But Jay Stu just does not get involved in the passing game. We've seen historically him be capped by at the end, at the goal line because Cam Newton's been faltering. I know he had the two touchdowns two weeks ago. So maybe that changes with, with them trying to protect Cam Newton a little bit. But still to me, against a great defense, we saw the woke one get held very in check last week. They've been holding.

nearly all running backs. Jonathan Stewart reminds me a lot. Not when I watch, not in style necessarily, but in type of role in the offense to Kristen Michael. He's that runner that they are a running team first. He has been used over the last probably the last calendar year around the goal line quite a bit as Kristen Michael has. And Kristen Michael just got shut down. So my confidence level in starting Jonathan Stewart is.

Not very high. I really like Jonathan Stewart for the rest of the season. But he is, he's going to be in my flex if he's in there, meaning, you know, I've probably got a better running back, a better running back too that I like this weekend. And then maybe I'll flex him in over some wide receivers and maybe I've got a better option. We have been waiting for the awakening of sorts for Cam Newton in this offense. They're one in five right now.

And this is an opportunity where Vegas sees them as the winner of this game. The Cardinals have to travel across the country. I do think it will be a competitive game. I want to remind people, Greg Olson, averaging 101.7 yards per game. Pretty much the most consistent locked and loaded guaranteed tight-in you can get. Probably not the upside of a gronk, but he does score. He's been great.

On the other side of the ball, we've already talked about Michael Floyd and John Brown. What do you think about Larry Fitzgerald in this matchup? The Panthers secondary has been atrocious. They're 26th in the league against the pass. Are we just starting Fitzgerow with R.B, I mean, sorry, with wide receiver two, one thoughts? Yeah, I'm fine throwing him in as a wide receiver too. He's been absolutely spectacular in half point. In our format, he's the number nine wide receiver on the year because he's just, he's so consistent.

And you know that Larry has that ceiling. Every now and again, he's going to get you two touchdowns to go along with that 60 to 80 yards, which is, I mean, you can basically guarantee that. His low point of this year was 49 yards against the Jets. Every other game, above 60 yards. So he just, he's, he is a very safe option. Yeah, Larry, Larry, I think is locked and loaded. Obviously, David Johnson is a start in, in any situation. I still think he is.

Gotta be tired from this last week and a little worn down. And the Panthers are a good run, but he's so used in the passing game. So Larry's locked and loaded. You're starting him. You're started David Johnson. I know we talked about it a little bit, but I just want to throw out a narrative.

I am, when I look at this from the Carolina Panthers side, I am going to be watching whether or not Michael Floyd plays. Because I think if Michael Floyd does not play, you're going to get a stagnant Cardinals offense that might not be able to continually move the ball because they're missing Geron Brown. They've got a hobbled John Brown and Michael Floyd gone. So if they're not able to move the ball, you're going to see the Arizona D out there a lot. And while the first half might look really bad for the Panthers, if Michael Floyd is out there.

Yeah, I'm back. If Michael Floyd's not out there, I could see a game script where the Panthers get it going the second half, even against a good Arizona defense. So Michael Floyd, surprisingly, I think changes a lot in this game.

Let's talk about the Chargers and the Broncos. This game's in Denver, a low over under a 43 and a half. And look, this is one of the reasons we like Devante Booker in this game. The Chargers defense has allowed 1.3 rushing touchdowns per game. I was pretty impressed with the bounce back game by Simeon in his last matchup. You obviously saw the running backs go wild against the Texans. Now you have Booker and Capri Bibbs kind of filling in for him.

I do think Bibs will get more work than you guys probably think, but Booker's the headline act here. The Chargers are, they've been okay against the run, but this is a pretty powerful Kubiak-led running game, and I like Booker a lot in this game. Yeah, I completely agree. I like Booker. I'm staying away from both quarterbacks in this matchup. I know that the Chargers, you know, they're 24th and past defense right now. I just...

don't see it for simeon who have that one fantastic game but other than that he's just he's a one touchdown guy which it caps demarius and manuel sanders even though i still think they're they're fine plays this week but i'm not expecting one of those guys to just go bananas at least this week for a lot of philip rivers owners because you just said you're sitting both quarterbacks yes they wonder like who do i start over philip rivers

I want to give some perspective on that. We have Rivers as our 22nd ranked quarterback this week. And this is pretty much, I mean, that's our consensus rank, but we all have them in the 20s. So we're talking starting Tyrod Taylor, Dak Prescott, Alex Smith. If you started Mario D'Ot last night over him, you would have been happy. Kirk Cousins. These are the guys that we're talking about. Ryan Fitzpatrick. Brock Osweiler. Yeah, even Brock Osweiler. You've got to be proud of that one. I mean, look, I don't know what rule number it is, but when you, you know,

can start quarterbacks against Detroit's secondary. So especially at home. Especially without Darius Slay, who's good and they don't have them. I just think you have better options. That doesn't mean you drop Philip Rivers. I think that means you could hang on to him, but you can stream somebody else. Yeah, completely agree. Gates, how do you feel by him this week? I'm okay with Gates. He's getting healthier. We have Hunter Henry in the concussion protocol. They think that he's going to be cleared to play, but that's concussions. We will wait and see.

And I still think that, I mean, Gates is still involved in those short passes, which they're going to have to do. You have the Broncos defense averaging a sack every nearly 11 pass attempts, which is terrifying. If you're a quarterback, you're going to want to get rid of the ball. And that's what we saw from Philip Rivers. That first quarter of two weeks ago, because they played, this game was two weeks ago, ridiculous. But Philip Rivers was very precise with the short passes.

And I think Antonio Gates will be a benefactor of that. Yeah, Gates is a good play, I think. And if I'm, if I had an almost upset of the week, I think I would go with the, with the Chargers. Chargers here. You don't have one, Jason. That's why I'm not going. The Chargers did beat the Broncos two weeks ago. So we'll see what happens in this matchup.

Look, we're going to move on now. Packers take on the Falcons. The Falcons are favored by three points, and it feels weird, but... Andy's almost upset of the week. You know, I don't know why it feels weird with certain teams picking them as an upset, but I'll take the Packers putting it together against the Falcons in this game. I mean, this is just confidence in, you know, last week seeing the offense actually move a little bit. Not that I love.

Rogers rest of the season, but it's easier to love them against the past defense that's ranked 31st in the league like the Falcons currently are. Yeah. So I have some confidence here that the Packers can put it together win this game. Nile Davis should be more involved. You know you're going to have time Montgomery running that dual threat role of running back and screen pass catcher and slot past catcher.

So talk to me about the decision-making process here in this game for some of these, you know, the Devante Adams, the Jordy Nelson. How do you make start-sit decisions on these wide receivers for the Packers? It is brutal. Pick in between these guys. Usually you have, you know, I got a one, a two. If things are terrible, you're like they're, I have a 1A, 1B, kind of like D. Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders where it can go either way pretty easily.

You have four guys here. You got Montgomery, Nelson, Cobb, and Adams. And the wheel landed on Devante Adams last week. I think of the four, though, Thai Montgomery is going to be the safest. You're talking 20 receptions in the last two weeks. I think that role is locked in. But if you're saying, I got to make that decision. I have Nelson and Cobb. Who do I put in? I have Nelson and Adams.

I mean, Arkansas ranks have Montgomery, then Cobb, then Nelson, then Adams. Cobb has been getting it going in the last three weeks. Yeah, I think Cobb is kind of the overlooked man here because there's been a lot on Jordy, right? He started the year off so hot with all the touchdowns. Then he's kind of... He's so hot right now. Yeah, and then last week in this crazy epic passing game, he was completely irrelevant, crapped a lot of people's teams. This week, you've got him getting Truffant.

So we've seen the number one wide receiver against Atlanta kind of not be always the guy there. Cobb has been getting it done. He has, we said it before, but there's about three touchdowns he's left on the field or for one reason or another. Someone should go pick them up. Yeah, and he might just do that this week. So I actually like Randall Cobb this week. We all like Devante Adams. I mean, we've got two starts of the week. I see here why you're making them the almost upset.

What about, I mean, for me, I'm starting all of them. I'm fine if, I mean, you're not going to have all of these guys on your team. I'm not saying start all of them at once. But if you've got Ty Montgomery, if you've got Randall Cobb, if you've got Jordy Nelson, if you've got Devante Adams, I'm taking all of those guys for a team that's not going to be able to run the ball with Nile Davis that's in a game that's 52.5. Yeah, you want the upside of maybe that guy's the guy. Maybe he's the Devante Adams of last week with 13 for 100 plus and two touchdown. Are you going multiples?

Though, if you have Nelson Cobb, you're putting them both into your... I would play Nelson Cobb. I think I would. Yeah. Okay, you'll combo. All right. Matt Ryan, you're starting. Devante Freeman looks juicy and great. He looks juicy. That's not really... Not a normal moniker description thing that I would give to a player. That's usually something that cannibals say. Right. Julio is our consensus one for all three of us and probably every... Welcome to...

being a deep threat again, Julio. He's gained 20 or more yards on 16 to 40 receptions. That's 40% of them. Love it. Big play, which means he's scoring touchdowns, something that we didn't get for parts of last year. Here's the question with the Falcons, right? If we're projecting all of this, all of these Green Bay Packer wide receivers to do good, obviously Julio is going to do good. To do well. To do well. Okay. Come on. Graver police. I know. Who is?

Who are, I should say. Well, no, I was going to go one. I didn't speak poor grammar. I changed my question. I didn't. Dang it. I didn't speak for grammar. All right. Here's the question we're moving to. Alert. Alert. Brooks. I want Brooks. If you're listening, I want that cut. I want that exact video cut on Twitter before the end of the day or you're fired. Or you're fired. All right. Who are the other?

pass catchers for Atlanta that you would start. Because if this game is going how we project, there have to be more than just DeVant Freeman and Julio Jones. I will play Jacob Tammy of the Barfi tight ends. Oh, come on. I will chase the point. If you're streaming tight end, I will chase the points. I'm not starting another one. I'm not starting any other pass catchers in Atlanta. Not sinew. No. Nope. Not me. Not me. How many yards do you have Matt Ryan going for?

I'm saying I don't know how to predict who's going to do it, so I'm not going to start them. I mean, every quarterback, including Blake Bortles, throws for 300,000 yards nowadays. I don't, did you see number 83 catch 16 passes? I don't even know what his last name was on the garbage time drive. It was the same number 83 tight end. That's what I see this. I don't know who's going to, maybe it's Tammy, maybe it's Sanoo. Maybe it's Hardy. Maybe it's, you know, it doesn't, I don't know.