Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 6 Waivers & QB Streamers, Breaking News

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With your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome into the podcast. Monday night football's over. Monday night football happens. Oh, man, that was so exciting. I really loved it when it was two to three. Hey, guys. Hey, Brooks. If we ever started the show with Breaking News. Oh, hold on. Hold on. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast.

Breaking News. Saints trade Adrian Peterson to the Arizona Cardinals. What? Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. What? Andy has been talking about this for since the beginning of the season. Yeah, saying why, like it's right there. Oh, what? Holy moly. Oh, welcome to the show, everybody. Instant analysis says Chris Johnson will be.

were removed from the team uh yeah um well brooks i'm all thrown off i don't even know how to do this podcast anymore how dare you brooks anyways we'll start it from the top all right let's do that we're starting way over welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast i am mike the fantasy hitman right to my side jason more he has not abandoned me no like our comrade andy holloway who's enjoying a nice vacation yeah dad is away so that's why the beginnings of these shows are going to be a little crazier

A little spicier. That was insane. I love it. This is the best intro to a show that's ever happened. You can follow the show on Twitter at the FF Ballers. Follow Jason at Jason FFL and I am at FFHitman. You can find all of our articles. I mean, big shout out. Big shout out to the writing staff for the fantasy footballers. Find all that work at the fantasy footballers.com. We're talking an injury recap, a defense recap, waiver wire. I mean,

These guys, these fellas over there, they're doing excellent work. I highly suggest you go and check it out. The quick question of the day is simply a Monday night football recap. There was a lot of storylines. Oh yeah. From last night's game. Sam Bradford went out and did his best weekend at Bernie's impression for about the first half. I was going to say it wasn't that good. You could tell he was dead. I mean, that was that guy's knee.

I was saying this yesterday at lunch. It just seemed like the type of injury when you took this long where he was going to come out, play a half and get pulled. It gives me no confidence in his ability rest of season. Like, you know, he's going to need to be back and look good for a game before I will then think about streaming or starting him, which means if you wait another two weeks and then he comes back.

And he looks okay, but still is off. You're still waiting. I mean, you're. You know who can be back in two weeks? Teddy Bridgewater. No. Yes, he can. Well, you're, you're just saying because of IR rules. Pup. He wasn't IR. He was put on the pop. Have there been reports that he's actually ready for that? I haven't seen anything yet. But I'm just throwing the name out there that if they're relying on Case Keenum in Minnesota.

Who knows? In the next couple weeks, who knows? Because Sam Bradford looks like he is in trouble. I mean, you're talking injury trouble for the foreseeable future. Stefan Diggs exited the game with a groin injury, not before giving you one reception for four yards. He did return very, very late in the game. Didn't do anything once he was, oh, my groin. Yeah, it was rough. Yeah, a rough outing for him. And I think you're going to have, you know, a mixed bag.

going forward. If Case Keenham is your quarterback, you'll have those good matchups where he's fine and has a great game. But you don't have a quarterback that is going to be able to turn Stefan Diggs into, you know, that guy that's the leader at the yard is, the league leader and wide receiver yards. Yes. I don't think you're going to have him be someone that is completely an utterly matchup proof if Case Keenum is the quarterback.

The bump went to Kyle Rudolph, who Case Keenham came in and heavily targeted. Rudolph had himself a fine game. And speaking of fine games, Jason, Jerich McKinnon had an excellent fantasy game. Yes, he did. He looked far better than he has looked in the past. I will give him that. I still say that, you know, if you look at what he did, 95 yards on the ground, that's great.

58 of those came on a play that was the defense was completely broken. Like literally the main guy had his back to the team and they snapped the ball early and he ran for 58 yards. But six for 51 through the air? That's what I was going to bring up is his work in the passing game is what makes me go, okay, he is the guy to having that backfield because I'm not fully convinced despite the fact that he he.

As the game progressed, and especially at the end of the game, he became the guy. They were giving him first and second down work. I'm not convinced that that's going to be his role going forward. It didn't seem like his role in the beginning of the game, and I think they were just using the hot hand. But he's clearly going to be involved in the passing game. Those help with game script. And so, yeah, we'll talk about McKinnon as a pickup on the waiver wire segment. And the big debut for the Chicago Bears.

Mitch Trubisky, Mitchell Trubisky came out. He looked fantastic in that first quarter. I mean, hitting guys in the hands. Look, his athleticism, his mobility was incredible. I mean, he just, he moves at a very, very quick pace, looked fantastic to start. Things really fell apart after that. And as I'm watching,

a very strong start from Mitch Trubisky. I was reminded of Tony Romo in one of the games he was announcing for the Bengals. The Bengals versus Green Bay. And they said, and Andy Dalton was looking okay. And things were going well. And then Tony Romo said, okay, now that they're out of their prescripted 20 games, let's see how they do. 20 plays. Right. Yeah, 20 plays. And then Green Bay shut them down. So you're saying that maybe Mitch.

looked great for those scripted plays that they had practiced all week. But then once they got out of that and into the wild, he fell apart. Yes. And I mean, the stats, he was, he was quite bad in the second half. His touchdown pass was, it was pretty lucky there for Zach Miller. Yeah, I was going to say he had two, he only had two passes the entire game than I thought were bad passes.

One was the pass at the end that was an interception. The other was the touchdown. Right. That should have been intercepted, but was popped up into the air and then caught for a touchdown. Now, he's dealing with a very, very poor wide receiver core in Chicago. That is really his main issue. There's just, I don't think you can have hardly any quarterback come in and make Kindle Wright and Marcus Wheaton relevant. Sure. And it.

On top of that, the refs were not being very kind to the Chicago Bears. They got hosed. I feel so bad for Chicago fans. I mean, that call back on the holding call for Jordan Howard's touchdown? See, I thought it was a hold. I thought he, yeah. It was the critical block that freed Jordan Howard to get the edge. And he did pull him. Now, it's, that happens a lot in football and does not get called. But it just, it looked like if the ref was.

right in front of that, I probably would have called it too. But there was plenty of calls in the game where I did feel like they were getting hosed. Still, I saw at least the glimpse, the glimmer from Trubisky that I don't think he fell on his face, despite the numbers indicating he really fell on his face. I thought that there's enough there. Yeah, I completely agree. There should be hope. There should be hope in Chicago. Do you have any more?

Takeaways from the game? Not really. The only the only takeaways worth mentioning are that he did target the tight end. A lot of them went to Dion Sims, not just to Zach Miller, but it does give me confidence in Zach Miller going forward, given the landscape of tight ends. And Tariq Cohen, they utilized him well. They got him the touches, but he looked like he was trying to do too much on every single play. He wanted to try to break something long and he was dancing around. But he wasn't getting targets.

I mean, you have one target. Well, he was, yeah, one target, but he was getting carries at the end of the game. Yes. Obviously also used on every special teams. Cohen's real value came because he was getting these out of control target numbers from Mike Glenn. And now you have Benny Cunningham coming in and getting, Cunningham had four targets. I mean, he led the running backs. So do you have, are you? Well, one of those targets was from a, from a punter.

Which was their best play of the year. Tush. What happened to John Fox? I mean, he was, he was slowly just like a full Kafka metamorphosis into the new John, or into the new Jeff Fisher. That's who he was going to be. And then he came out and said, no, I'm going to do a, I'm going to do a fake punt. Yeah, but you know what? Jeff Fisher did a lot of fake punts as well. Oh, that's a good point. That was the one thing you could rely on. And then that two point conversion? Yeah. That was a college play. Oh, that play was amazing. All right.

All right, all right. We're going to move into news and notes. News and notes from around the league. The Arizona Cardinals have traded for Adrian Peterson. Yeah, immediate analysis without really diving deep. It doesn't change anything for me for the Saints because I was already seeing Adrian Peterson as irrelevant. Someone that's going to come in and get the ball two or three times. He was not used.

recently doesn't fit their scheme. So it doesn't really change anything there. The question is, does Adrian Peterson have value behind the Arizona offensive line that can't open any holes? You know, it's one of those things where it's like, okay, you know, Paul Perkins looked terrible. But, you know, Wayne Galman looked better and was a little bit relevant, but still not good enough behind that offensive line where it's like, okay, now I've got a running back.

What do you do with Adrian Peterson? But here's the thing. They're giving Chris Johnson 10 carries or so a game. Adrian Peterson is the type of player. You have to give him 10 plus touches. And that's when good things start to happen. You can have, look at the game script for Kareem Hunt this past Sunday night. Yeah. It was tough sledding to start. But when you commit to a running back like that, you wear defenses down. I believe it was Marshaun Lynch.

eloquently said you run into an expletive's face over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. That's when the running game actually works. So who knows? I mean, if, if, if, if they do toss Chris Johnson to the waiver wire, which he, that's, it's done for Chris Johnson. Chris John's had a great career, but I think it's over. Adrian Peterson.