Week 4 Waivers & Streamers + Ring of Honor Ceremony - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/24

I watched every snap of Bucky Irving, every opportunity from week one, two, and three. I think Braylon Allen is a better football player than Bucky Irving. But I think that Bucky Irving has a lot of juice. He's looked really good and it's been a progression. He's looked better each game and certainly looks more shot out of a cannon than Rashad White does right now. So I have him slightly higher. Yeah. When I looked at these two guys, I just went back and forth. I'm like, man, which one would I really pick up first? And the similarities are crazy, right? They were both, you know, they both fell in drafts a little bit further than some of the NFL draft time hype was about both of these players. They're both backups and, you know, 32% of snaps for each player last week. Three targets, three receptions, 13 yards and 14 yards for these guys last week. They both were about 10 carries and both really efficient on their carries. The truth is, Bucky Irving has...

More opportunity to steal the role. And if you want someone who you think you need a flex play, I am more confident in Bucky Irving. But if this is a stash type of player where you're just wanting someone that is talented who maybe could, you know, really come into their own, then I think I'm on the Braylon Allen side. Because should an injury happen to either of these players? Or let's just say both. And by both, I mean Rashad White and Brees Hall. If both those players go down, Braylon Allen has the... body type to, I think, really truly break fantasy. I don't know that they would give Bucky Irving the entirety of the work. He's a smaller back. He's still very, very good. And so I kind of go back and forth. Right now in my rankings, I do have Irving, like you, Andy, one spot ahead of Braylon Allen. But I think it's really just a matter of what you're looking for. Both should be picked up. And in the most competitive leagues, I was shocked to see that.

Like on Sleeper right now, they are still available in more than 50% of leagues because I thought like these guys should be rostered in 80, 90%. I have Braylon Allen ahead. Just watching, you know, him go from two opportunities to 11 to 14. He's not, I agree with everything you guys are saying of. He won't overtake Brise Hall, but there is a chance that this is just, this is what they want the offense to be where it's, it's about a. an RB2 is actually part of what's going on. So those are the two big names. There are some other kind of stashed, keep in the back of your mind. Like Emmanuel Wilson is the backup for Josh Jacobs. And he was the backup to the tune of 12 for 50, including a long touchdown pass as well, played 41% of snaps. And this was, you know, impressive to see. And then Justice Hill is going to get a lot of work in Baltimore as well.

You know, when you need an emergency situation, those two players right now look like if you threw them in, you might get lucky. Emmanuel Wilson has looked really good on a per touch basis to me as well. This is the Green Bay system that while the first two weeks we saw Josh Jacobs just getting everything, we know that LaFleur wants to run more of a committee approach. And they did this last week. It's a tough matchup coming up. But, you know, he's not that far behind Brayland Allen and Bucky Irving as far as opportunity. The difference is. there will be a time where Marshawn Lloyd comes back off the IR. And so then that makes Emmanuel Wilson's future a little bit more murky. But he should definitely be rostered. Did you guys watch Jacksonville play football last night? Unfortunately. Yeah, well, if Joe Mixen were to miss this next week, Camp Acres will get another opportunity. And Acres did not struggle in terms of like, okay, they went and they ran their game plan and then Acres couldn't execute it. It was like,

We just didn't have the opportunity to hand the ball off because we were turning it over to Minnesota and then down by a million. He only had nine carries. He did catch a touchdown pass. So Cam Acres as a spot start candidate, probably really cheap, probably really ignored on your waiver wire. Yeah, he's, I mean, we don't have an update yet for Joe Mixing on this week. So that would be a speculative ad. The two guys I want to highlight for this is, these aren't players that you're. that you're probably picking up and putting right into your lineup. But it's a watching how things are trending. Rico Dowdell is available in half of leagues, and he has, he's the lead guy now. Like, Zeke is being phased out. It hasn't, again, it's not a lot of work yet. Eight for 32, but five targets on the ground, five targets where he, it.

it's ramping up for Rico at the moment. And I don't know if we'll ever get to the point where they just fully go, okay, Rico, you're going to be the guy for the game. We're going to give you, you know, 60% of the snaps. But if they do, then he will be very valuable because he's already the past catching guy. And if they give him the goal and work as well and the Cowboys figure things out, he could have a ton of value. And then Roshan Johnson for the Chicago Bears, DeAndre Swift has been. horse doo-doo. It's been really, really bad. And Roshan has quickly, in the three weeks went from a healthy scratch in week one, believe he was active week two, but didn't get on the field. And then to 37% of the snaps and 13 opportunities. They're searching for something. They are. And that's the point. I don't know that you could play Roshan. Look, the matchup against the Rams, that's okay. But it's more of a put them on the bench and see what happens with the opportunities. Do they start?

moving the dial even more of Swift versus Rocheon. We also know that Jalen Warren is getting in MRI so Cordero Patterson could be a cursory out, especially with some rumors around this injury to Najee. And with the matchup against Indianapolis. Would you drop Giovante? Oh, man. Wow. I still... I'm going to give you the drop candidate names that we're hearing. Goodness. I still would not drop Javanti. I think we're probably one more week, but if he gets... splashed by the bidet one more week it's it's a big problem and then you have uh an audric estimate is a week six return potential return a i think that the time is running out for giovante deandre swift no yeah i'm not so i'm still going to hold on to him as smear white zameer white i am far more

willing to drop. Like for Alan and Bucky, would you drop? Yeah, yeah. I would, if there's a good name out there, then I would take Zamir because he only played 22% of snaps this last week. The Gus, Bus, and Jalen Warren. Gus, I'm going to hold on to. Warren I'm going to hold on to. Man, it's so difficult with the injury. And we talked about Clyde Edwards-A-Layer real quick, but deeper leagues. Maybe you just have one spot and you're like, I'm not going to spend anything right now. He's worth an ad right now because he will be the hot ad next week. So you can get out in front of it. You guys want to talk whiteouts? Please, yeah. Joanne Jennings is going to top the list. He's going to top the fab bids this week. No question about it. Is that because of the 11 for 175 and three touchdowns? It's mostly correlated to his statistical output. Yeah. I mean, we don't know the health of George Kittle.

We don't know the health of Debo either. So how are you guys playing Joanne, not knowing any of those things? Because if those two guys come back, Joanne is still a fine pickup, but I mean, are you going to burn a top priority? Are you going to invest heavy? With those guys healthy, he was five for 64 in week one. He'll still be involved. And that's also part of the lack of production for Brandon Ayuk. Where if he ramps up, which he should, then that would. theoretically remove Joanne from the offense when everyone's ready to go. Yeah, the way that I'm moving forward right now is I believe that they will both miss another week. George Kittle was a late week hamstring, missed the game, was ruled out a little bit early. So I don't expect the Kettle back. And I think both these players are going to miss one more game. So if I'm looking at my waiver wire, Juan Jennings is like, I'm.

I'm getting him. I'm going to start him this week. That's how I'm approaching it. Would you pick up Quentin Johnston after the one touchdown, but only two catches? He is. Or would you pick up Darnell Mooney if you had the choice who eight targets, eight for 66, two straight good weeks. I love Mooney. I think I might pick up Mooney over Joanne Jennings just because it could be more rest of season. I mean, seven targets last week. had 88 yards on a touchdown. Eight targets this next week, 66 yards. He's very involved. And I think he's a good player. Like he's proven over the course of years. He is a serviceable wide receiver too for his team. And they need someone. Huge, meanwhile, plays Kansas City this week, probably with no Herbert or possibly with no Justin Herbert. And it's Kansas City. They've been removing number one wide receivers. If you score?

You're happy. Yeah. If you don't score in Los Angeles, you have a miserable day. But so huge after the terrible matchup of Kansas City, then it's the bye week. Can't start in there. Then it's on the road against Denver, which I would assume he will get the Sartan experience from Denver. So this is three weeks that you're probably not trying to play him. This will be a deeper league. You're adding him hoping in a month that things are okay. Over the last two games played for Darnell Mooney, his 17-game pace would be 93 catches for 1,300 yards and eight touchdowns. Yeah, baby. So he's been playing well, which, you know, Mike in the off season went back and watched a bunch of Darnell Mooney last year to see, was this a Fields. Was this a Mooney? What was it? Concluded heavily that it was Fields. Yes. So nice to see Mooney performing. And he becomes, you know, Kurt Cousins is going to have favorite options in this offense. And right now, Mooney's looking like that. Jalen Ehler.

He got back into the end zone, but he only had 3, 4, 31. He is losing his spot to Jordan Addison returning this week. So I think I would let somebody else chase Jalen Ehler because I don't want a third wide receiver option in Minnesota. You think Addison is back this week? That's the report that I had read. Oh, okay. I hadn't seen that. Normal timeline, you know, if you miss a game, you miss, you know, three with the high ankle. I was thinking you might have one week left of Jalen Naylor. He's looked all right, but yeah, if Addison's back, then I'm out. The coach reported they were hopeful of his week four status. So Kevin O'Connell said he's optimistic he would be available to play Sunday in Green Bay. That's what the report was as of yesterday. I think, you know, a guy that I want to look at and really a team I want to look at is the Packers, getting Jordan Love back.

Romeo Dobbs is available in a lot of leagues. Dantavian Wix has kind of started encroaching on Christian Watson's numbers. We don't know exactly what to make of what this offense we've seen the last two weeks is, but I do think when Jordan Love is back, this office is going to really be a, you know, definitely a top 10 offense. And so if there are pieces of a top 10 offense sitting on waivers because they're not ready yet, I would try to scoop those up now. I've never been as much of a Dobbs. fantasy believer as much as I think he helps teams, but I understand taking the shot. I mean, when would you feel confident starting a Dobbs or a Wix? Is it just a week-to-week? Dobs? No, Dobbs, I would be confident playing for what he is, which is like a low-end flex option as soon as love is back. Dobbs is clearly he's the snap leader. He's on the field. He's got the opportunities to score. He's looked at around the end zone. I don't see him as a...

you know, some superstar. Like Don Tavian Wix, I think his ceiling is higher than Dobbs. With Dobbs, I'm much more confident in, like, you can put him out there most weeks and be okay when you've got, when you've got Jordan Love back. Green Bay has Minnesota this week, but then we get the Rams, Cardinals, Houston, Jacksonville, and Detroit. So either way, I mean, even if it's a tough defense, it should be. a higher scoring game against those teams because they're going to have good offenses and then they'll beat up on like Jacksonville. Well, you just said with the schedule is a trade for Jordan Love. Like could be. Try to go get them right now because a lot of quarterbacks are disappointing. Are you chasing either of the one week wonders, Trey Tucker or Calvin Austin who had big games. Four for 95 and one for Austin. Trey Tucker. Seven for 96 and one for Trey Tucker. Trey Tucker would be the I'd prefer him over Calvin Austin. It's not going.

hard in the paint after him but I mean he's in his second year he had all of the hype he's around three wide receiver in his second year he had all the hype of the off season and so I think that he is he's okay to put on the bench and see what happens what about drop candidates Michael Pittman dude oh man yeah serious it Michael it's not you I don't blame you at all. This is an Anthony Richardson problem. I don't think I would drop Michael Pittman, but if you're considering dropping Michael Pittman, I would very much look to package trade him. He has a big name, draft capital, Target, share, all those things. And I totally understand I'm not starting Michael Pittman. I just feel like he, you know, he's one of those guys that I think you can get more from than just.

What, like the names that we're talking about, Darnel Mooney. I really like Darnel Mooney more than Pittman. If I was making a start this week, I would certainly start Mooney over Pittman. But like, I don't, I don't think that the gap there is enough to just pump them straight to the waivers versus trying to get something for them. Oh, Blackers. Cliff is back. I'm putting the glasses back on because what I have to say is it's not going to, it's not going to go well in any protection. If you're in a dynasty league. Would you rather have Jaden Daniels or Anthony Richardson? Jaden Daniels. At this point, there's no question to me. Yeah? One of them looks like an incredibly competent quarterback right away in his career. The other looks like.

That's not knee jerk. You know, Anthony Richardson's physical tools and abilities are probably superior in every way to Jayton Daniels. It's not a knee jerk because this is a conversation we've had the whole off season. I mean, you brought up. I don't feel like preseason it would have been Anthony Richardson by a mile. Yes. By a mile. And we're three games in. That's why I'm asking. You say by a mile, but we talked about the draft value, the overpriced on Anthony Richardson. He had done nothing from last year to move from being a 10th round pick to a fifth round pick in fantasy.

you know, had two good games, two bad games, got injured, versus Jaden Daniels, who has all the same resources. It's a different style. He's not as big-bodied. You don't think he's going to get the tush push, but he could have 750 rushing yards just as easy, if not easier than Anthony Richardson. So I don't think it's really knee-jerk. What we've seen on the field so far in three games from Jayden Daniels is that he's going to be. I think you're confident he's going to be an NFL quarterback barring injury for the next several years. Anthony Richardson, what we've seen so far this year is like, we've got some work to do. We've got the tools. We've seen some flashes. We've got some work to do. Yeah, I think it's like, again, Richardson is essentially a rookie, hasn't played a ton of football. He has, his traits are amazing. I don't know if the traits will ever.

pan out. I liked Richardson for fantasy football. I thought he would be much better than he's doing this year, especially just in terms of running the ball. But I hated the prospect. I'm not one of those. I'm not someone who says, I see all the traits, so I draft a guy in the top five. Accuracy is different. Not everybody's Josh Allen? Lamar Jackson. Accuracy is very difficult to fix. in the NFL, at least in my experience. We've seen a couple big ones. When it hits, when it hits, you get Josh Allen. Or Lamar. You get the, I mean, one of the best quarterbacks in the league. Josh Allen right now, this year is the best quarterback in the league. Would you drop Keenan Allen right now? No, I'm going to hold on. I'm very concerned about it, but the, you know, speaking of schedules, Rams, Carolina, Jacksonville, by week, Washington, Arizona.

So if things are going to go well for the Bears, it would be over the next four games. If I don't have an IR slot and I've got to take up a roster spot and I need it, I would be willing to drop Keenan Allen. He wasn't really good before the injury and you worry that the injury might hamper him the rest of season. Caleb Williams hasn't looked good. I think when he is back, when Keenan Allen is back, it's going to be one of those things where I don't want to start DJ Mooroma Dunzee or Keenan Allen. So I'm fine just getting out of the mess. All right. We're going to take a break. We're going to come back with some tight ends. All right. Apparently, apparently we have to start a tight end. Yeah. Yeah. So who are you going to pick up and chase the last week's numbers? Chase the dragon. The dragon that I would want to chase the most would be Cole Comet. Kind of feels like his career arc is doing this periodically to show up on her show.

Yeah. And then disappearing. For sure. I mean. Little Hunter Henry-esque. When you look at the tight-in position and you look at who can have big performances, they are big, strong, physical dominators. They paid him a lot of money. We've seen several big performances from him. So we know he's got the physical tools and capabilities. While Keenan Allen is not on the field, we have seen an actual shift and a reason to believe that Cole Commet might be more involved. This is a system. that, you know, wants to use the tight-in, but they've been using Gerald Everett. And now, week one, it was like Gerald Ever, all preseason it was Gerald Ever over Colquette. Week one, it was the same thing. And you're going, okay, Colquette's dead. And then the second week comes in and you see a massive shift towards Colquette, and he's good. You know, he gets five targets, four receptions. And then this last week, they basically said, okay, Gerald Everett, the experiment is done. At least that's what it looks like. Snap-wise, route-wise, that's what happened.

If that sticks, if Gerald Ever is basically not a part of this passing off, it's at Keenan Allen is gone. I think Cole Comet, there's reasons to be excited. I mean, he had 10 for 97 in a touchdown. It's hard to do that. It's, it's Keenan Allen related for me right now. Like, Cole Comet could be a Band-Aid for you at the tight end position. It's possible. Again, just rattled off the schedule. It's very positive for Chicago and maybe figuring something out and get Caleb Williams, get him really going. But once Keenan is back, I guess that's a if Keenan is back, then I think with the three wide receivers, Colcomette will be relegated back to the waiver wire. Other names? The other names are, is it Conklin? I mean, he was 5 for 93. That was nice. It was a very surprising game. He is a full-time player 92% of the snaps. I think that someone like Conklin, though, can easily just be 5-4.

24 like or just you know something really low or one for six or one for week one and one for 10 like week two i i i don't think i'm going to play in that fire especially as mike williams is getting healthier mike gisickie would be the guy for me um he does steam still involved still had five targets yep he steams he steams still um you know i i'm not excited about any of these guys um you could talk about zach irts who was so clutch So important to the commander's offense. Such a big role. Late when it mattered, all these deep shots, five targets, five receptions. And then you look and it's like, wait, he only had 38 yards. I feel like it was really important to this dude. Did you catch the play? They really highlighted it where Jane Daniels did not find my man. The senator. The senator was out there for a humongous play. And Jaden did not let it rip. They brought him in four.

him like he was the design on that play because he's not he's not playing a ton of snaps not running a lot of routes man if they if he if he let that ball go i'd been exciting yeah he would have had a 50 60 yard touchdown uh i like conklin a little bit more than than the argument that you made against him uh i know mike williams is probably not going to be a high volume player there and i just think that if rogers finds something that works he may go back to it rogers looked real good so i and he's all you know conklin's in every snap

tight end. So that helps. I will say this. Usually when it comes to picking your tight end, matchup is more important than, you know, the talent. The tight ends on the waivers aren't, you know, you're not being like, well, Kelsey's so strong. The Denver Broncos at least last year adjusted for schedule. They were 28th against tight ends. So that is a good matchup if you want to go the Conklin route. You drop a Mark Andrews? People want to know. No. No. Defensive starts this week. I love Tennessee against Miami and whoever they decide to start at the quarterback position. Makes sense. I like Houston against Trevor Lawrence's ever spinning.

A pirouette of sacks. That makes sense, too. I like the Raiders and Max Crosby having 20 sacks against Deshaun Watson this week. Can I be honest? I probably am not. I'm so upset about what happened with Las Vegas last week that I am terrified to roll them back up there because they give up 36 points to Andy Dalton did nothing to sack the quarterback. I completely. And Crosby's hurt for what it's worth. Wait, he is? He did play. He was questionable. He did play, but he's battling injuries, what I'm saying. Oh, okay, gotcha. Well, all I know is every single time that Deshaun Watson drops back to pass, he is inundated by a pass rush. Way more, like if you look back at week two, right? Week two, the protection for Bryce Young was the best in the league, number one. Like, they were protecting him. And so that's the line that Crosby had to go up against versus.

I mean, goodness gracious. They're the worst defense in fantasy football. The Raiders are dead last. They're like the worst start. Impressive. I can believe that. I'm just focused on Sacks against Deshaun Watson, who leads the league right now in Sacks Taken. I mean, last week, we watched it every single dropback. Some of it was his fault. He held onto the ball too long. Some of it was the offensive line's fault, but regardless. And I think they lost more starters on the line. So it's playing with fire. It's a bad defense, if you want to call them a bad defense. They were great last year. But, man, Watson just looks like he's willing to take the other team's defense and make them good. The Saints against Atlanta seems like a great start. Atlanta has not put up a lot of points. And the Saints, I think, are the number one defense right now in terms of fantasy points produced.

They're very high if they're not number one. I also think the Rams Bears game is going to be great for both defenses. You've got a really banged up Rams offensive line. And they figured it out. They did some different things against the San Francisco 49ers this last week. But the Bears are a good defense. The Bears are going to be at home and there's still a banged up offensive line. Conversely, the Rams defense. You know, against Caleb Williams, who has taken a ton of sacks as well and has some inaccurate passes so far to start the season, I think you can put either one in your lineup. All right. That'll do it for the waiver wire. We are going to get into our streaming quarterbacks in a moment. We want to thank NFL Sunday ticket on YouTube TV. Watch every game every Sunday when you bundle NFL Sunday ticket and YouTube TV. Sign up today at YouTube.com.

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Well, even without Adam Thielen. I won't be there. Even without Adam Thielen, I'm going Andy Dalton at home against Cincinnati as my streamer this week, playing his old team. What a world. A team that just, they couldn't even come close to stopping Jaden Daniels last week. Deontay Johnson, a new opportunity for Xavier Legat. Chuba Hubbard looked great in the running and the passing game. You know, this is, this is great. This is Dave Canales. finally getting to execute an offense that gave you confidence in him as an offensive coordinator and head coach. And we haven't got to see any vintage Dave Canales until this last week, who quickly came out and said Andy Dalton's our quarterback, he gives us the best chance to win. Cincinnati's defense, I put it in quotes, 26th and points per game allowed, 29th and pressures. And they're at home. I mean, like Andy Dalton's at home against Cincinnati. I'm going to go Gino Smith on the road against Detroit. Gino has looked past.