Week 7 Matchups + Bad Luck Chuck, Wheel of Shame! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/20

Everything you need to win this weekend, breaking down the matchups, talking about last night's game, looking at some of these injury reports, and getting you primed for the upcoming fantasy football weekend. Do not miss a minute. Make sure you like and subscribe. Enjoy. To the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. Welcome into a Friday edition of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. A little impromptu two-man show. Yeah. We thought Mike was driving in this morning. That was the plan. He had a puppy emergency. And turns out dogs do really dumb things that hurt themselves quite often. We were talking about this. This is, I've had.

what has happened to his dog, happened to two different dogs, where if you don't intervene, they'll die. Yeah, so they kind of a sudden emergency, so he and his wife are taking care of that. The news to pass along there is the dog's going to be okay, but need surgery. Yep. So that was, you know, the sudden news. Now, if he had been the one getting the wheel of shame, I would have, I would have taken it as a Sean McVeigh-style lie. I don't think I would have let him take care of the dog. Oh, yeah. I would have been like, sorry.

You got shamed. Is that what would have come up on the wheel? Oh, no. Oh, yeah. Get better, Rufus. For sure. We have matchups to get into Thursday night football to recap. A decent game. Thursday night football, I feel like more often than not is mostly trash. The game turned out okay after having a first half that was just an unwatchable offense from the Saints. Derek Carr took. First place in my players that I don't want to watch rankings that I've been keeping. I almost texted you last night to see if he moved up that list. He did. He was pushing for the title. Also, when did he become such a whiny jerk? Like, Aaron Rogers, I couldn't stand watching Aaron Rogers for years. You know, he was in Green Bay and after every...

mistake he's just got the winiest it's not my fault face he's upset with everyone and then he changes teams and all of a sudden cool good guy awesome teammate i'm not mad of nobody derrick card did the opposite he was like mr nice he switches over to the saints and now it's like i hate you well they you can be more ornery when your groin hurts which seemed to be a problem for him also I watched a couple highlights like Chris Oliva had 15 targets. He only caught seven of them. He really didn't have that good of a fantasy day. He really gave up on a few routes. Like I was watching the highlights and I don't know if he's not feeling it. I don't know if they're not on the same page. Like one of the times that Carr was yelling was yelling at Olave because, you know, a car had thrown the ball 15 yards out of bounds and somehow it was Alave's fault.

But I did watch that route and, like, OLAVe stopped running. 100%. So there were two plays. One, Alvin Camara on a hot route didn't stop and turn around was not Derek Carr's fault. And that Olave play was both cars, but not cars fault. Like, Olave stopped on the route. But there were about 700 times where he was like, no, angry. Yeah, I know. He was, he's an ordinary. Yeah. But I think the main storyline of the game. Well, there's a bunch. I mean, one is Alvin Camara is catching over a million passes per week. And this is why I said he's locked into DFS lineups on Sunday until unless he can't be. Yeah, I think he is really, really bad for the Saints. Like this isn't, the announcer on the program made a really good point. And I was so happy that he said this. This isn't Derek Carr.

going hitch, hitch, hitch, you know, looking first read, second read, third read, nothing's there. Let me check it down. This is car dropping back, looking at his first read, let me throw it to Alvin Camara. He is a crutch that is hurting the offense. 100%. I mean, it's like if you didn't have a first gear on a car, you'd have to at least drive a little bit faster. Yeah. I mean, Alvin Camara is fantastic, but Derek, there's other players on your team, man. So Alave ended up seven for 57, no touchdown on 15 targets. That was. That's a bad game. That's a bad game. Taysam Hill, he had a good game because he got into the end zone and caught four passes. Michael Thomas's game, we said he's good for 50 yards. He was good for 42 in this one, but got into the end zone. So Jason, you got a late game treat. Against Mike, yes. And I had the opposite. Once again, I was dipping in. I was checking this game, but I was facing Christian Kirk and things were going real nice.

Because you weren't watching. I wasn't watching the possessions by Jacksonville. Are you serious when they had the ball you leave? I would dip in and out. We had some family stuff we were dealing with as well. But I did tune in with three minutes left, and Christian Kirk had just an ankle-breaking run after the catch and a big touchdown, 44-yard. The big storyline on that side of the ball, though, I mean, Travis E.TN, we already know he's great and he was great again. Christian Kirk's been good. We said play him. But Calvin Ridley is the problem here. Calvin Ridley is the elephant in the room because you had a game in which, you know, there were 29 pass attempts. Only four of them went to Calvin Ridley. He had one catch for five yards. And now I'm questioning our confidence levels on Calvin Ridley. Because you look at the season and are we sitting there, are we sitting there with this level of inconsistency wondering what you really have?

Yeah, I think you have to start second guessing it at this point. He's been so inconsistent. It's basically like a third of his games are relevant. That being said, a lot of wide receivers, you deal with that. You deal with the ups and downs and you've got to keep them in your lineup in order to get the big plays. The problem is what you decide Ridley is in your brain. Because if you go into the season and you say this is a must start type of player, Like if you just transpose his numbers onto Jamar Chase, you always play him. If you transpose him on to Gabe Davis, you go, oh, like, you know, 76, 67, 59. Those are the wide receiver finishes? Those are the wide receiver finishes. He had another game where he was two, he had two catches, but one of them was a touchdown. So he saves it. And then he's had two really good games. So I don't know. It just.

I don't think he's in the you have to start him category anymore. I would agree with that. You've got to adapt and stay water and change your opinions. Speaking of changing your opinions based on new information, Taysom Hill, I don't know if you noticed this. Last week, Taysam Hill had eight targets. We have joked about how Tasem Hill shouldn't be a tight in. He doesn't play tight in. He doesn't catch the ball. He heard you. He has 21 receptions over the previous three. years. Wow. Like he does not catch the ball. And now he had seven receptions last week for this week and was used as a receiver, almost 100 yards between the two weeks. And five rush attempts and a goal line carry, which he will get chances to do. Yeah. If he's actually going to be a decent tight in. Absolutely. If he's going to be on the field, you know, 60% of the time plus being used running routes, getting carries.

42 routes. Yeah, I mean, that's fantastic. He should be an important tight end pickup on Waver Day. Okay. It's Friday. Foot Clan Friday. Congratulations to Nurse Nicholas, who wins a $100 gift card from Fantasychamps.com. We give $100 away every Friday to a supporter of the Foot Clan. or of the show, who we call the footclam. And we love nurses. Jointhefoot.com is where you go and do that. And I've had this question this week. Like everybody that supports over there is entered to win. So congratulations, Nurse Nicholas, $100 heading your way. Let's talk. News. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. Bears running back, Roshan Johnson, mispractice again.

You know, that makes it seem like he is not going to clear the concussion protocol. Technically, he still has time, but usually what you see when people clear is them return to a limited practice before they're out of protocol. That hasn't happened yet. We'll stay tuned for today. But this is also a little bit longer of a timeline because when he got this was on a Thursday night football game the week prior. So, I mean, I assume at this point it's going to be Deont de Foreman and no Rocheon. We have a report from Mary Kay Cavett that says Deshaunson, who returned to practice, looks like a go in week seven against the Colts. Yeah, well, I mean, the matchup isn't bad. And he's better. Is he a go for fantasy? Yeah, this week, I mean, it's tough to play someone right off of an injury. We've seen that. But in a week like,

this one where the streaming options are not very good. Thoughts on Pat Friermouth. Got news this morning that he re-injured his hamstring and will not play this week and likely sidelined longer after aggravating. Yeah, I mean, that would be the issue with players coming back from an injury, but it really stinks. The matchup was so good. He is obviously no longer. my start of the week. Do you want to do a pivot to who your OG was going to be? Sure, Luke Musgrave, much better option. Who you just signed in our League of Record? Yes, I did. But you want to know why? Because I no longer have a tight end because the one I spent money on went down to injury. I lose. Musgrave must start? Absolutely not. I am starting Luke Musgrave, so he will be injured. You know, please send early regards to him. And its family, yes.

We have Daniel Jones limited to individual drills, not yet cleared for contact. I think we're getting tie rod. This will be another week of tie rod. I'm almost certain of that. We had Seahawks that didn't practice on Thursday, D.K. Metcalfe with the ribs and hip, Zach Charbonnet with the hamstring, and I'm going to throw it in there. Tyler Lockett was limited a couple days in a row as well. I do. suspect this could be a J.S.N. Week. If you start to look at what has transpired, average depth of target has increased every game. Snaps were going up. And I listened to the comments from Pete Carroll. And Pete Carroll said, look, any judgment thus far is inappropriate. You know, he reminded me and everyone else that JSN just got the cast off his hand. Right. Which.

in one regard, kept him off the field because he couldn't capably block the way they wanted him to block. So they expect big things. If Metcalf misses, there will be opportunity. It's Arizona. I like him to maybe have this first breakout game. Yeah, I don't think D.K. Metcalf is going to miss this week. If you look at last week, he missed the Wednesday practice, missed the Thursday practice, just like this week. Same injuries. These aren't new. The new one is Charbonnet. Charbonnet with his hamstring, Fould did not participate in practice and a brand new injury, so I would expect he is out, which means in this matchup, favored by a touchdown at home. Not that you needed any more motivation, but Ken Walker is just going to go bonkers. That's good. I have to. We both have them. We have to square off against him this week.

Oh, no, you thought we were talking about the fantasy face-up. Yeah, you don't have them, huh? DeVante Smith expects to play Sunday evening against the Dolphins. That's good news. No changes. Don't change your lineup. I don't need to change my lineup. Oh, this is good news with DeVantz Smith. Also, did you see I sent you a little tradeoff for this morning? I did not. In our League of Record? I did not. It's a real good one. You're going to love it. That was today's news and notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. Fantasy forecast. Yeah, I am not. Are you taking it? No, I'm not taking it. I am counter. Are you going to share? Yeah, so you offered me Rushie Rice, a player I really like, a player I was, I was high on coming into the season, player I had. Oops.

that I accidentally dropped and now you got him and you are trying to rub it in. It is, you know, there's been a lot of trades in all of our leagues and hopefully in yours as well and people maneuvering for the buy weeks, maneuvering on the buy low front, right? Like I feel like this is the right time of year, week five, six, seven where like it's the buy low window. It's a sell high window. I made a trade in League of Record yesterday where you. You went as far as to text me. Now, you know, we're normally in the Slack channel, but when you really want to get a message across, it was important. You texted me. I was very angry with you. Because in my opinion, you know, I've said this on the show. I think Devante Adams, a great buy low candidate right now off the two-week bad stretch. Sequin Barkley, also a pretty good buy-low candidate. When you miss games.

your your managers of those players have figured out how to live life without you and it's easier to let's a good point and yeah you texted i hate you i freaking hate you how did you get that deal done and the deal was for the record in our league i traded injured kairn william williams who i think is going to miss three three weeks three or four weeks yeah and then i traded damien pierce which is a player who is on the way Out of relevance with Devin Singletary overcoming him. And the unfair advantage, that is Travis Kelsey. I sent him. I sent him out. You sent Travis Kelsey, an injured guy, and a worthless guy, and you got back a bunch of stars. Devante Adams, Sequin Barkley, and Dallas got her to replace Kelsey. So you did not like it. I didn't. Yeah. And I liked that you didn't like it because we are rivals. We are.

Raiders Bears. We covered that yesterday. The Browns Colts as well, Bill's Patriots, Commanders, Giants, Falcons, Buccaneers. Those were all on yesterday's show. And all the games we discussed yesterday, totals of 41 are lower. All of today's games have totals of 43 or higher. Now, we go in order of the games, which means let's get to Sunday afternoon. Yeah, yeah. And let's start with the, I mean, this is a fun game. Detroit, 5 and 1, Baltimore, 4 and 2. Draft King Sportsbook line is Baltimore minus three. The over under is 43. Now, you did you just recoil? Yeah. You're surprised? I am surprised that the line is Baltimore minus three. The lions have really been outstanding. Now, this is going to be quite a test, right? A road game for golf against a really good defense. I will be shocked and impressed if the lines win in this game. I am definitely on the Baltimore side of it.

It is a challenge, like you said, both teams, great defenses. The Detroit Rush defense is number one against running backs. The Baltimore pass defense. You know, they're averaging four sacks a game, which is number one in the league, second and yards per game allowed. Like, it is, and it's not golf at home, right? It's not going to be a comfortable situation for him. And he's been really good. So I guess I'm curious how you will see, like, so far the motor that keeps the lions moving has been. In part, the running game with David Montgomery. He will be out. Craig Reynolds did return to practice, but they're getting Jamir Gibbs back. And Dan Campbell came out this morning, said, he said they need him to take the load in week seven. He said, I'd like to say we're going to be careful with him. But the reality is we need him. Yeah. And we've seen this play out before where you didn't have David Montgomery and you did have Jamir Gibbs. That was back in week three.

And Jemir Gibbs got 17 carries in that game. And he ran well, 80 yards on him. It wasn't a fantastic fantasy finish game, but the opportunities were there for him. And I think he gets at least 15 opportunities in this game. Where you beat the Ravens defense so far has been in the running game. Running backs have done all right, and they've shut everyone else down. So they're going to need him. That is the strength of this team with their offensive line. I am 100% playing Jemir Gibbs. If there's any question of like, I've got Gibbs and, you know, he's first game back from an injury. He's going to be in my lineup. I like hearing that. I am still afraid of surprises. I mean, Dan Campbell once told us a story about D'Andre Swift in the need to use him and to unleash him. I consider me terrified but hopeful. Yeah, I mean, Craig Reynolds dealing with.

two different injuries. When he says they need him, it's not it's not like him just giving a pep talk saying like, ah, we really need this guy. It's actually like, oh my gosh, we need him because we don't have other options. Is Craig Reynolds, if he practices today in full? Is he in play at all when you say that you can beat them on the ground? He is in play like Latavius Murray is in play. You're going to hope for a touchdown and an emergency double flex situation. In general, I don't want to play those guys. Ahman Ra, despite the tough matchup, of course you're playing him. For sure. Jared Goff, we have a popular start-sick question on the website, Jared Goff or Matthew Stafford. Now, our rankings on that one have, our consensus rankings, have Stafford slightly ahead and projected points.

And is that the vibe you're getting here? I mean, they're favorites against Pittsburgh. Yeah, it's tough. I lean Matthew Stafford in part because of the Kyron injury. The likelihood of passing touchdowns versus rushing touchdowns. Like that's been Stafford's problem this year, is Kyron's been getting rushing touchdowns. And with him out of the way, I think the play calls. will rely more on Stafford's arm in the red zone. And so he's looked good. The matchup against Pittsburgh is actually really plus. I'll lean Stafford there. The matchup's bad for Samuel Leporta, but last week we dealt with his injury and he came right back to 11 targets and seemed okay. So if he's out there, you're going to be playing him regardless of the matchup. One more Jemir Gibbs question. Let's throw this out there for the flex consideration because I think a lot of people at this point.

That's where Gibbs is locked into lineups. Jordan Addison or Jamir Gibbs. Addison plays San Francisco on Monday Night Football Gibbs. I think I'm on the Gibbs side of that one. I'm on the Gibbs side there. Yeah. And as our consensus rankings have him significantly higher than Addison right now. On the other side of the ball, I don't have a lot of confidence in the running game. I know like the lions are the best in football. So to be... potentially productive against them, you normally need one guy in the backfield, not three. Yeah, I mean, the lions right now are giving up 10 fantasy points per game to the running back position, not to like the number one running back in totality. If you're going to have Gus Edwards, Justice Hill, and Melvin Gordon splitting up 10 fantasy points, I mean, no thank you. I saw the, what do you think?

the line is for rushing yardage for Gus Edwards, because that is something I may have thrown a few bones on this week. I think the rushing line is 33 and a half. It's 44. Yeah, I'll take the under on that. That's what I did as well. So that's always a fun way to do it, by the way, is I like having someone guess the line here in the office before we go to it, because sometimes... We're really shocked. Lamar Jackson, he is a top 10, he's been a top 10 quarterback in four of six starts. You're going to play him. Zave Flowers? Yeah, you can play Zay Flowers at home in this match. Yeah, for sure. The Lions have an elite, maybe the best rushing defense out there, but they are beatable in the air, especially the tight ends. So I think that's very helpful for Lamar Jackson and Mark Andrews.

Mark Andrews in games played this year. If you projected over the season, he's averaging, he's on pace for 80 receptions, 1,000 yards and 10 touchdown. So he's having a really good season. It's so funny when you miss week one what that does for your perception. He's been great. All right. Quick break back with another matchup. Well, Jason, the Pittsburgh Steelers. Mm-hmm. The three and two Pittsburgh Steelers. That mind-blowing. The. super obviously great Pittsburgh Steelers offense. Taking on the Los Angeles Rams, who were three and three in Los Angeles. The line here, the DK Sportsbook line, Los Angeles minus three. The over under is 43 and a half. And, you know, the aforementioned Matthew Stafford. He throws the ball a ton and yet has not finished one week higher than the quarterback 14. Yeah, it's what I just said. He has not been.

throwing touchdowns very much. That's his main issue right now. Only one single game the entire season where he's had multiple touchdown passes. Andy's almost upset of the week. Here's the problem for Matthew Stavre. I like the train of thought that, okay, well, we won't have Kyron, so maybe he'll throw some touchdowns. The problem is, is last week against Arizona, they essentially didn't have Chiron in the first half. And that led to ineptitude on the offensive side of the football for the Los Angeles Rams, which we have seen in spurts. If they cannot move the ball on the ground at all, it's going to be wheels up for this pass rush. And I think it's going to be a problem for the Rams. And so I don't have confidence in the Evans Freeman-Gaskin-Henderson ensemble.

I don't want to play any of them. No. I know a lot of people are throwing Zach. I mean, Zach Evans, I'll tell you right now. DFS, he's 4,000. Not in my lineup. Yep, not in mine. You know, to start the week he was, the first day of the week, but not anymore. And there are so many Zach Evans questions in our start sit tool. So I got to run through these. Cream Hunt, Zach Evans. I'm going to go, Cream Hunt. I'm going to go, Zach Evans. I'm going, Zach. Okay. Yeah, no, that makes sense. In that one, man, Cleveland's such a bad matchup. I'm going to. I'm taking Zach Moss's pass catching. Okay. You win Evans. Gileo McLaughlin or Zach Evans? McLaughlin. All right. Deont de Foreman. Foreman for sure. So, I mean, I think we're saying unless you have a obvious, you know, unless Evans is obviously better than your option, we're kind of leaning away from.

from that trust. And look, new information. We'll change their opinions if we get something out of today's practice. I've been on Twitter looking for any kind of update from practice reports as to. Have you texted Cindy or Susan? I haven't because I don't want their answers. Yeah, that won't be. They're filthy, filthy liars. I bet if you texted both his mom and grandma, you would get two different answers. 100%. Yeah. And you know what we need. We just need a third family member to give us one more answer because then their answers will be it's Royce Freeman. It's Miles Gaskin. It's Darrell Henderson. And then I will know it's the one guy not mentioned. That's okay. All right. Well, we'll look into it. Cooper Cup, of course. Pooka Nakua, Jason's start of the week. Yep, 33% of targets. Still a little nervous, but the matchup is so delicious right now. You got to do it.

Yes. You got to do it. Adjusting for schedule. Steelers are dead last in fantasy points given up to wide receivers, 38 points a week. I mean, yes, please. And it's split up basically just between Cooper Cup and Puka. And the yes, please, is not something we've generally seen on the Pittsburgh side of the football. I mean, can you pick it? No. No, thank you. I mean, the Rams defense on the year is second against running backs when you look at schedule adjusted. You weren't here for this, Andy. I've got a question for you. So Najee Harris has been very inefficient, right? Behind this offensive line, yada yada, he's running sub four. He's at 3.9 yards per carry without looking. What is Jalen Warren's yards per carry? What did you say Najee's was? 3.9. It's probably not much different. It's probably like 3.9. It's 3.6. Yeah. He's.

It's the passing game for Warren. Yes. You're right. But that just blew Mike and I's mind when we were looking at this yesterday. I mean, I kind of knew you were setting me up. If I was blind into that, I probably would have said over four. So I am not starting. I would not start nausea over Warren. I would not start either player this week. There you go. I mean, I, the, the Rams have a good defense. It's on the road. Despite you're almost upset, they are underdogs. just doesn't project well. If I have to start one of them, I would start Jalen Warren because of the passing work. Pickens and Deonte. Yeah, Deontay is back practicing in full. He had a lot of time off with the IR stint for the hamstring. I think he's, you know, in a full PPR. He's okay. I mean, really, I really wanted Pat Friarmouth because that's where you beat the Rams. I don't.