Fantasy Football - Game Time & Liar Liar, Field Day! - Podcast for 2/26

to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in Thursday, February 26th. Welcome into the fantasy footballers podcast, Andy Holloway here. Mike Wright in the building. And a cardboard bear, extraordinary. Jason will be back on the next episode, is what I'm hearing. That's what the rumors are. I feel like we would have been better off just leaning into the, you know, we damaged him with the 20 ounces of NW root beer. For those that don't know, on the Spitballers episode last week, we made Jason, who cannot burp. He has a scientific condition. We thought maybe the method that we would approach fixing him. Retrograde Chrysarphangeus dysfunction. Yeah, you're still happy you decided to read that?

Well, I mean, I crushed it, so. Yeah. No, he has, so he has that, we think. And I think, you know, it's like a, it's a true fact, but I think he takes a little bit of pride in it. Like it's like a cool, unique, like, I can't burp. It's weird. I mean, he's always said it. And it wasn't until the, we were recording, like we're actually looking it up. And yeah, it turns out this is a thing and people get it. There's like a. Yeah, you can get like a Botox injection. Somehow Botox fixes it? Which I think you should do based on our scientific study that we then proceeded to. We thought maybe we could force it. Yeah. And our path was like, hey, a 12 ounce A and W root beer would be the path. And then, you know, the Falcon grabbed the 20 ounceer. And then Jason downed it in like four seconds. Because I was challenging. I was talking about how, I was like, hey, guys, have you ever done the thing? You know, were you drinking an entire can of soda and you don't allow yourself to burp?

until the end. And if you've never done it, it is extremely painful. By the time you're about halfway through that, so you're like, oh, man. And then you get to the end and it just, the air has to come out of your body. It has to. Well, unless you have a R-CPD. Yeah, it never came out for Jason. No, no. He proceeded to what I would call a pregnant state. Yes. And then- He remained in that for 24 hours. But that is not, you know. Yeah. That's where that was a different show. Yeah. So there you go. This is our last opportunity for this. The UDK. Preorder you have until March 1st to pick it up. Ultimate draft kit.com. That is your last chance at four different bonuses that we are including.

which include a chance to win a listener league spot and you get some discount codes and it is the lowest possible price. So we want to say that right here right now. And Mike, what do they get access to immediately? Well, if you, the UDK officially launches on June 1st. However, should you want the UDK Plus, that will also come with a DFS pass. So, you know, if you want to play Draft Kings, Van Duel, any of that stuff, that will launch in the football season. But right now, We are in Dynasty season. So the UDK Plus comes with the Dynasty Pass. The first drop of that is live. You know, we get our initial rankings. You can look at the production profiles. The team opportunity pages are gigantic and constantly updated of showing like what players are leaving a team? How, what percentage of carries is a team losing? So like, you know, is that a good landing spot for someone kind of preparing yourself for the draft? And the combine is going on right now.

You know, the things that we really care about, that hasn't started just yet. Tomorrow and Saturday. But very, very soon. And then next week, that's when we will be formulating drop two of the Dynasty Pass where we update those rankings. We get another mock draft in because we get more information. Players start separating themselves. Who will be? Who will be the Matthew Golden of this year? Because we've had it now. We had Worthy and then we had Golden. Two guys where... They fast. They're really, really fast. And their production profile said they should not be drafted in the first. And yet they were. Well, we actually had a conversation about the 40 times again on the footcast yesterday, Jason and I, where we were just talking about like the greats, right? Like how in the world? I know it makes for the best TV consumption of the combine.

is these very, like you can watch a 40, right? They don't have the pads on, which, of course, they play in pads. We've said that a million times. I don't know why they don't run drills in pads. That would tell me something, right? There's a little strength aspect, right, to the sprint of carrying this extra weight. I mean, at least a helmet. At least a helmet. But the other part was just like the micro differential, like there's another player this year that might break the record, right? Oh my gosh. I mean, the greats at the wide receiver position. Larry Fitzgerald first ballot Hall of Famer 44745 Antonio Brown 44745 range yeah there's Calvin Johnson okay that was a little bonus on top of everything else he brought to the table but man I still find it like strangely rudimentary how we it's we need the we need these like marketable numbers

And I'm not saying it's not impressive and awesome that you can run really fast in a straight line. It's just so not indicative of everything you can do as a wide receiver. And I don't know how many John Ross's, Xavier Worthies, Matthew Goldens, Darius Hayward Bayes that we need to figure this out. Like, cool. Like if you can run in a straight line and catch a long touchdown pass, that's cool. I don't know if that makes you a first round pick. What's difficult about it is we know historically that 40-yard dash time. is not the most when you're talking correlating to future success the 40 is very very low however the 40 does correlate to draft capital which draft capital does correlate to it so it's it's the thing though of like don't double count it yes like the NFL is already going to count it don't let him run it

And he's a first round pick. You're like, well, he's the first round pick and he's so fast. Yeah, no, it's a good point. Like this is, but all that stuff, you know, that goes into our, our thinking in, in the dynasty pass and letting you, giving you kind of the information and benchmarks for production that are more desirable for a player, where the path becomes clearer for them to become a true impact player at, in fantasy football, or there's late round guys. You know, like that's how you find Pacheco's and things is you look at the production profile. Like, hmm, okay, there's a path here for that player to move up. And should that happen, look at their production profile, look at all these other things. And so it's just, Dynasty Prospect season is so, so much fun. Yeah, and I know Jason's in the middle of trying to build a prospect model out right now. You've been building one for years. There's so many different ways to evaluate prospects.

You know, we do the film work this time of year. We get those updates in the dynasty pass. All of that. If you're going to grab it, grab it before March 1st, ultimate draft kit.com. All right. It is a game time day. It's a game time day. We're playing games today. Yeah, I mean, we call it the field day. Yeah. For the fantasy footballers because this particular spot in February. Like the 26th. Yeah. I mean, there's some news for us to talk about, but. You know, there's not a ton going on as we're waiting for the combine. Once the combine is over, things start moving really, really fast. But right now we're just going to play some games. Have a good time. We are going to play some Who Am I, Mike. That is our quick question of the day. I'm going to read one clue at a time. And you can play along at home. First clue, Mike. We're going to try to figure out who this player is. Clue number one, my fantasy football breakout. Okay. Was not until my third year in the league.

Okay. Year three breakout. I don't think I have a guess yet. Year three, year three, okay. Year three breakout. Okay. All right. Clue number two. I have not played a full NFL season yet. Okay. I appreciate the yet. That's optimistic, right? Like, I'm going to get there. So no full seasons yet. I don't have a guess. I don't either. Clue number three. I have never caught more than 80 passes in a season. See, I now do have it. I think I have a guess. I had a guess, but Pierce has played four years. You know what? And I think my guess is wrong, too, because I was going to go Quentin Johnson, but last year was second year, right? No. Oh. No, last year was year three. Was it? No, I think I'm wrong. Was it year three? I feel like Kyle. We're allowed to look at that, right? Yeah, you can look at that. Okay.

Yeah, because Quentin Johnston was the one I went to right away, and I don't think that's right. I think last year was his sophomore. No, that was year three. Oh, that's my guess. Yeah. I'm supposed to write that down quietly. Quinton Johnson, let me write that down real quick, quietly. Johnston. Okay. I think it's based off of the clues, it's pretty good guess. Okay, clue four, Mike. My nickname is kind of gross. Huge. That's not the clue. I finished as a top 10 fantasy wide receiver. Two of the past three years. Uh-oh. Oh, I actually didn't look at that part of Quinn, but he's not a top 10. No, he's not. That's not him. What? I'm glad I wrote that down quietly. So wait.

I didn't, okay, so he didn't break out until year three, but he's been a regular fantasy dominator for multiple seasons. Oh. So that's where I was thinking it's just a year three. Yeah, no, no, yeah, yeah. That was a little. They could have played four years. Or five or six. All right. I mean, the breakout just happened in year three. Finish as the top ten fantasy wide receiver two of the past three years. Okay. Hmm. You don't want to guess. Do you have a thought? Well, I will say I am. Physically, I'm here. Right. Okay. You're not cognizant. Your brain is not there. I am running purely on Theraflu and caffeine at this point. Okay. So, so guessing is not at the, uh, the top of the list, survival and making it through the show. So I, I need to jump on your back. Please carry me. Clue number five. Well, my guess was way off. So clue number five, my quarterback has regressed since his exciting rookie.

2023 season. Um, not played a full season. Oh, this, I know the answer to this. Okay. I think the- Quietly write it down. I think the answers, when do you guess out loud? Right, right now. Okay, Nico Collins. That's my, that's my guess. Oh, yeah, that's a, that's my guess. That's a good guess. Because I remember, man, we were waiting for that breakout. It finally happened. Exciting rookie year, C.J. Strout. That's a great guess. My name is, here's the answer key. It's Nico Collins. No. It's Nico Collins. We did it. We, you and I. What a team effort. Nico Collins. That's kind of you to give Andy some credit for that. Thank you. I was steering him. Um, there are flu and caffeine. Okay. Um, um,

Third straight thousand-yard season, one of six wide receivers to accomplish that. Nico Collins along with AJ Brown. Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, C.D. Lamb, I'm on-Ross, St. Brown. Still, in my opinion, purely on skill, talent, ability. I still think he's underrated. I still think Nico Collins is underrated and underdrafted more often than not. And look, you just saw some of the reasons why. One, you took you three years to break out. Two, your quarterback looks like dog water right now. And then the other one, you know, the volume hasn't been there. And then he's missed games, right? I've never played a full season. He always misses some time. But, you know, if you put one full season of Nico Collins out there on the field for 17 weeks, there's a chance he's the top three wide receiver. 100%. It's just can Stroud get it together. Yeah. And that is a really big question at this point. Yeah, there were trade rumors and the GM came out and said it's moronic to trade him. I mean.

Yeah, I think that's not great. I mean, he kind of reminds me a little bit of Kyler. Stroud? Yeah. Just on the kind of career, I mean, it's not the same, but a career trajectory where like, look, super promising, MVP candidate, a lot of expectations, and then just slowly playing worse at the position. Ever since he told Caleb Williams to hang in there in the middle of the field. So looking at the box score here, so Stroud missed weeks 10 through 12. So that's when the giraffe came in. Davis Mills? Yes. So you still can recall who looks like a giraffe. Well, yeah. Your brain is working on that capacity. I mean, come on. Mike Glennon. Oh. Two of his, so in terms of highest scoring finishes on the year for C.J. Stroud, number two and number three came with Davis Mills and not Stroud. Not that he didn't have some good games with Stroud,

Like, that is... Well, it's not... That's not what you like to hear. It's not a great recipe for fantasy success when... Look, Stroud, to win, they don't need him to be amazing. They just need him to be pretty good. Yeah, because the defense is so great. So, like, from a fantasy perspective, that's not great. We've seen this be a challenge for Philadelphia when their defense is really good. Not counting on the wide receivers. So Nico might have the skills to be top three, but maybe not the situation. Talk some news. News and notes from around the league. Are you kidding me? Jordan Schultz reports that there is strong belief that former Saints quarterback. What? Send in the car. Send in the car. What? Derek Carr is very serious about unretiring and returning to the NFL. Hmm. Hmm. You can only play in the front yard with your kids so many times before you want to come back to the NFL. Hmm. Derek Carr.

Okay. I mean, he would be much better than a lot of quarterbacks. Yes, he would be. And yet not really help anybody. Yeah, we'll see. We also have, right after I said definitively, I think they won't trade him. Dan Graziano comes out and says teams are monitoring the trade market for Brian Thomas Jr. Yeah, it's just, tis this season. I mean, he's still a candidate. He's still a candidate in the sense that his expectations for his role in the offense probably don't meet what the teams are. Yes. There is a world where it makes sense for Brian Thomas to be traded, and yet it would, a year three, first round wide receiver, so you have him, you would have control of his contract for, no, for three. Three more years, yeah. For three, because you get with the fifth year option, and it just.

the price you're paying for what the level of talent for Brian Thomas you would have I feel like the trade would have to cost so much you're probably right or or one of those things or it comes through and you're like what they traded Brian Thomas for a third round pick and it's like and then you start to say oh it must have been bad yeah yeah um This, this report. Everything about this report made me laugh. Oh, good. I loved it. Are you in the same? Yeah. I mean, this is just silly. Fox Sports reporting Cardinals, Kyler Murray prefers to be released ahead of free agency. Oh, does he? Yeah, cool. Oh, does? Oh, he does? He would prefer to be able to pick the team he wants to go to for the contract that he wants to go get? It's great. It's great. Apparently, why would he want that? Kyler and general manager Monty Austin Ford have not even spoken.

since the season ended. It's over, man. It's over. Look, I was on record on Tuesday. Most logical is that Kyler is still on the team, but we are, the saga is not close to done. No, no. And then we also got a report from Aaron Wilson, great reported out of Houston. Texans are expected to part ways with Joe Mixon. They think. This quote. Yeah, this, you want to read it? Speaking about Joe Mixon. They think he had surgery. They, they think they're like maybe he did. How do you not know? Joe Mixed. What are you doing? My guy. Well, he tried to recover with some techniques that I don't think were team approved last year. It didn't work out. Never got back. And now probably won't be a part of the team moving forward. So like, I think what he marks is one of those interesting names because I think everything about what he marks, the numbers behind his production, the fact that he's a late around pick.

The fact Joe Mixing is going, like, he probably is not going to work. I think he gets replaced. If they don't draft somebody, all of a sudden you'll be like staring. Who is the, what, Damien Pierce? No, that's a good one. But I was thinking Raiders, running back up, we were like, oh. Zemir White didn't get replaced in the draft. And then we're like, cool, let's go. And people drafted him. And it didn't work. No. So. Yeah, I mean, I just think Woody Marks could have, let me put it this way. There could be a small period of time in which he is a dynasty tradable asset. I would be trying to trade him. Because when mixing gets cut pre-draft, that's your moment. Yeah, and maybe you want to wait for that. Yeah, go frame Woody Marks up as the starter for a team. It's pretty good. Playoff team and then cash in. All right, we'll take a break and we're going to play some liar, liar, and I'm quite afraid of whatever they've prepared for us.

All right. We lose control of this show. That's what normally happens this time of year. And we're going to play some liar, liar, which apparently I have a drop for. Oh, boy. Lyer, liar, pants on fire. And we do this on spitballers. It's two truths and a lie. This is normally Kyle the Borgogan puts together some madness, takes great pride in it. We try to determine which of these things are true, which one is a lie. And according to his records, I guess this is the seventh time we've ever played this on the show. He claims that one time you were fortunate enough to win, Mike, and the rest we have lost. I do remember winning. I don't remember that we've played it this many times, though. Every time you're like, hey, we're going to do liar, liar. I'm like, we do that on the... I know. That's the spitballers. Yeah.

Well, round one, we play three rounds, and if we can make it through three rounds determining what the one truth is, then we're champions of the world. And I'm going to be jumping in for Jason. That's right. Oh, yes. I do not know the answers to this either. Al Borland is going to contribute because we can't give Kyle a, you know, a 2V1 situation. That's right. Round one is titled Our Powers Combined, which is already frightening. All right. Here's your three potential truths. Number one. In 2025, tight-end Tucker Kraft played only eight games. True. Yeah, nailed it. Yet he had more receiving touchdowns versus man coverage than Seedy Lamb, Nico Collins, Michael Wilson, Jamar Chase on the season combined. So this is Kyle 101. Yep. We're drilling it down to man coverage. Tucker Kraft, more touchdowns against man than Lamb, Collins, Michael Wilson, and Jamar Chase combined.

Truth number two. I don't know, nerd. Yeah, that's what I want to say. Goodness gracious. That's what I want to say. Number two. Go outside, nerd. Mighty might, Wondale Robinson had as many 20 plus yard receptions. Okay. In 2025 is Jamison Williams, D.K. Metcalf and Roma Dunes A combined. Okay. That one. So three guys that are downfield threats, Williams, Metcalf, Adunze, Wondale. Okay, yeah, I think I think that one's possible. I think that one's very possible. How many did Metcalf have? Exactly. That's exactly why I think this one. 20 air yards? Not air yards probably. Yeah, he's had long receptions that were a result of him running. Yeah. Number three, Jackson Dart in just 12 career starts has more passing touchdowns against zone coverage. Oh, this nerds back. Then Kyla Murray has over the last three years combined. We don't know this, Kyle. We do not.

Dig into the nerddom. I mean, okay. I think the Wanda one's true, Mike. I think that one's true. Okay. I think that one's our layup. The question is, is which of the other ones are true? Tucker Kraft had a bunch of... Well, only one could be true. Yeah, yeah. Or no, one's a lie. There's two true. That's what I say. Oh, right, all right. I don't know what I'm doing. I know you are on drugs. Wondale Robinson, I'm going to count that one myself. You don't have to do that. I think that one's true. I have no idea about this man versus zone decision. Al, do you want to weigh in with your two? Your Green Bay Packers? My only insight is that I feel like maybe Kyle put that Tucker Kraft one in there just to get me to vote with my heart. Oh, yeah, because that could be a trap. Because he'd wanted you to do this. I don't know the answer. But I am going to be taking Tucker Craft as the lie for that reason only. I mean, the Kyler Murray one is a bit of a trick because.

It's like the last three years combined. Well, Kyler played what? A handful of games this year and then missed the entire season two years ago. So he played like 16 weeks versus or, you know, whatever, 20 weeks versus Jackson Darts 12. I'm, I think that one's true. I'm going to take Tucker Craft as a lie as well. Oh, man. Oh. Kyle has let us know we're going to know none of these. What are we doing, Kyle? We're playing a game. Okay. So you guys are both in on the Tucker Craft. Oh, not in? We don't think that one's a lie.

Yeah, yeah, I'm saying like you're locking that in. We're so not in on that. That's fair. So it's just do we put all the eggs in one basket of the Tucker craft? It's just, what's your conviction? Mike, you're the only one to win this game against Kyle. Yeah, but as the note said, I was fortunate to win. I'm going to go, I'll take the dart one. All right, Kyle. You eliminate us immediately if Wondale is the lie. Yeah, you guys have a lot to learn. It is Wondale. That's the lie. But how close was it? He had more than Jameson Williams, which is very different than how he used to be used. Yes. The other one's far out past him. Oh, okay. Okay. Well, that's a round one loss. Now we, now we play for bride. Round two. Geography for dummies. Perfect.

Number one. Oh, yeah, beautiful. Beautiful. Garrett Wilson has never caught a touchdown in a city located west of Dallas, Texas. Through his professional and college career, 91 games worth. So he can't catch a touchdown west of Dallas. What are these spreadsheets? What is happening? I'm just picturing the Jordan get help. That we sent him. Number two, through five years in the NFL and 889 career carries Chuba Hubbard has never had a single run of 15 yards or more in the mountain or west coast time zones. All right. The worst part about this is two of these have to be true, which means he knows whether they're true or not, which is the worst. Number three, good night.

Counting his 13 games as a rookie. Yeah. The preseason. College and high school. High school. Tightened Mason Taylor has not forced a mistackle in 47 of the 50 United States. Meow. I'm going with that one. As the lie. Oh, no, that one's definitely true. Mike is so. I don't know how to play this game. You should because we've played it before. What? How much Theraflu, Mike? Was it a whatever the maximum? Was it a big glass? The maximum maximum dose. Okay. This is good. You should go home after this. I plan on it. So Mason Taylor, that one is definitely true due to no dog. Yeah, he needs it to be true. No dog. And you shouldn't know his high school stuff, Kyle. I got to believe Garrett Wilson's caught a touchdown west of Dallas. I'm going to call the Mountain West Chuba Hubbard one a lie, although I don't know, man. Go ahead. Al, what do you think?

I'm going to go with Garrett Wilson as the lie, because I do have it on good authority that Mason Taylor, if freshman year of high school broke a tackle or forced to mistackle. You've got that in your archives? Yeah. I'm pretty sure that's true. He might make the Mason Taylor want to lie if you want to go that direction because he will want to prove that Mason Taylor can't break tackles in 49 of 50 states. It would be great. if that one worked. Oh, yeah, I was backwards on that, huh? Oh, so is that what you mean? I got to lock that in as the lie. Okay, so you're doing what I'm thinking. Yeah, yeah, sorry. So I've got the Chuba Hubbard as a lie. You've got the Mason Taylor as a lie, Al. It would be insane for a, for a human being to make it into the NFL. He was a second round pick. Am I remember that correct? Mason Taylor? That's correct. Okay. For a guy who got drafted in the second round.

Going back into high school to not be breaking tackles. That would be weird. Uh, yeah. Okay. Reveal your stupidity, Kyle. Mason Taylor is true. He's only broken tackles in Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. The Florida, Mississippi and Louisiana are the only states he's broken a tackle in. Kyle is correct. Unbelievable. Amazing. All right. So which is the lie? The lie is Chuba. He broke a tackle in Arizona as a rookie. yes you mean for 15 yards yes okay wait is that the one that i no that's not the one i picked i picked i didn't i so i got oh you picked you picked tuba i got it right dude nobody knows what's going on i think so kyle what did i pick only the audience is going to know yeah tuba okay okay so you're winning apparently i don't feel like a winner everyone is losing i'm winning but do not feel like a winner