Week 11 Studs & Duds + QB Despair, Smashups! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/20

It's Monday, so that means a lot of studs and a lot of duds to break down. Hopefully things went your way over the week. And make sure you subscribe to this channel right now and enjoy. To the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. The fantasy footballers podcast Monday, November 20th.

Everybody back together again. It's good to be back. Mike, right, Jason, more, Andy Holloway. What a weekend it was. Not back my teams, but we move on. Not back, A. Chan. Yeah, I guess, oh, man. Oh, man. I mean, just to reflect on that really quickly, obviously that was the story of the weekend, Von A. Chan took all this time. Your story. To get back. And, well, yeah, Mike, your story began on Thursday with injury and Burroughs injury. It's not done yet. It's not part of the weekend, Mike. This is the weekend story. But, you know, Sunday live yesterday, I strolled in. I watched Jason do his thing. So bullish on Devon H.N. Oh, yeah. And just the future. And then they, you know, they sat Jeff Wilson down and they kept Ahmed because he can return some kicks. And so it's like, okay, obviously H.N's the two.

to Mostert. Got in super early. He was ready to go. And we were. What an idiot, Jason. What an idiot you are. I mean, guilty as charged. Well, I mean, the story I told you was like the entire morning my opponent had A-chan on his bench. And it seemed like maybe he wouldn't put him in. And I was terrified that he put him in. And then he put him in and you were very upset. I was. I was terrified. And then I was terrified. And then I wasn't. And then I wasn't. And then the dolphins put him in and you were like, oh, okay. Well, I mean, just one of many storylines this weekend. So we'll see what you think about his future for this year. Really devastating for fantasy players that had waited. And we'll get into it. But a couple things at the top. The Megalodon episode of the show. The gurgling megaladon episode. What is that? That is a special Thanksgiving.

episode where we wrap the Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday shows into one episode one. Megalodon-sized adventure, and that will be Wednesday. It's our biggest show of the year. It is not just in scope and size, which is also true, but also downloads most listened. You're traveling for Thanksgiving. You're going cross-country. Don't worry. We got you with the longest episode of all time. And we normally throw a hashtag in there. In fact, we've had two years ago, dinner butter was trendy. We were rivaling. We were just under Thanksgiving. Last year, do you remember the hashtag for last year? Yes. I don't. It was Thanksgiving. Oh, yeah. We stumbled into some, I mean, it was a bit of a mistake, I guess. Well, it was very funny because there was some thirsty people on Twitter. They got real big mad. They got upset. That's what it was is people would click on the hashtag looking for something different than what we meant.

Thanksgiving. Oh, yeah. So we'll figure out the hashtag, and if you tweet it, you will be entered to win some swag. Do we know what we're giving away yet, Brooks? You can tell them. We're giving away a D.K. Metcalfe signed jersey. Oh, we played. Giovante Williams signed jersey. Oh, we're doubling up. And an A.J. Brown signed mini helmet. Whoa. Whoa. Hot stuff. Wow. Hashtag Fixgiven on the giveaways. So we'll. We'll have that on Wednesday. We're not playing around there with those gifts. No, no, we're broke. At the FFBallers on the artist formerly known as Twitter. You can follow Jason at Jason FFL. Follow Mike at FF. Hitman. I'm at Andy Holloway. And we put the Monday Punday threads out there as usual. And I thought they were pretty good this week. A lot of reaction to the weekend, big games. And let's jump into Monday Punday. And let's start with a great performance from Brock.

Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect passer. And Jalen Soren. Brendan. How you looking? And how about Tank Delicious? Or Jaden Ridiculous. Yeah, he was good. Breece. Hallelujah. There was some bad. There was some bad this weekend. Like Scam Leporta. Or my Devon, ouchan. Oh, no. Devon. I.R. Chan. Yeah. And I thought you'd like this one, Jason. Hollywood Brown pants. Yeah, yeah, he's not good. I love this guy, Quentin Dropston. Oh, man. And why is he even Jared Gawful? Jared Gawful. It weren't turned out okay. He was all right. Better than turd Ferguson. And if you had this guy. Oh, my gosh.

Garrett Willstocks. Willstucks? Why is there a T in there? It's just an accident. You want to try it again? Garrett Willsock. All right. So you added a T and an S at the end? You know what it is? I'm going to interpret it for him. Okay. This week it was Garrett Will suck, but people with him are Garrett Will stuck. Yeah. Thank you. That was exactly what I was doing. That's what he was doing. So, and it's true. I mean, I, if you, if you roster a jet, I'm sorry, you expected this year to be different. Yeah, I mean, Breece Hall, they did. Breece Hall has been, okay, talk about, talk about the briefs hall numbers you just shared with me in the studio. Yeah, so Breece Hall over the last five weeks, okay, he's a full time player. He's getting all the workload tons of carries. In fact, over the last five weeks, he's had 63 carries.

That has amounted to 157 total rushing yards. 157 yards would be a really good number for a game. This is how much he's put up over five weeks. 31. Five games played running at two and a half a carry. They lose. Beckton on the offensive line now. It's only getting worse. Thankfully, I mean, you see his explosiveness. You see his athleticism. He's still getting it done. During that stretch, he's been an RB1, three of those five weeks. So he's fine. He's just getting it done in the receiving game. But when you watch him get a carry and have absolutely no chance on this great earth to have any opportunity for success. I mean, it's just this offensive line is a real problem. And when you've got Zach Wilson.

You're begging the Jets like, please throw on me. When Bree scored through the air in this game, it was their first touchdown in 40 offensive possessions. It's unacceptable to have that quarterback back there if you can't score with him. I don't know if you knew this, but you and I tweeted 30 seconds apart our own independent condemnation of the Jets playing Zach Wilson. I did not know that. So we must have had the same moment where it hit. I mean, and it hits a lot. But the same moment where it dripped over the edge and we were like, this is just not acceptable. This is not fair to your fans. It's not fair to the teammates. It's not fair to the organization. I'm not sure, Mike, that.

I don't think Robert Solomon might not be the guy for this job. If you can't make those decisions. And you lose the locker room every year. Yeah. But what decision was he supposed to make? Like he's not the GM. Any other decision. Well, they did. I mean, they gave us a little glimpse there. I mean, Boyle got a fourth quarter. And that's, I mean, that's when we got Garrett Wilson finally got a catch. And then subsequently fumbled it so he could finish with. Just don't throw him the ball. It would have been so much better if he had just not caught that one pass and ends up with negative yards. I don't know what to make of the coaching because the GM has not supplied solid with another competent option. Like when Aaron Rogers goes down in week one, totally understand we're going to rally behind Zach Wilson. We made him the number two overall pick just a year ago.

Let's find out if the kid has anything. But as the management, you need to go, don't tell Zach, but we're going to see if there's a backup plan just in case this doesn't work out. I mean, this is not, yes, he's not responsible for every personnel move, but he could push for them. He's also responsible if you're stuck with a hot turd behind the center of manufacturing some sort of offensive manipulation to score more than once every 40 offensive possessions, in my opinion. and, you know, Dobbs was out there. He was clearly available. I mean, Joshua Dobbs running the Jets right now, they're a totally different team. Yeah, but Joshua Dobbs was not, he was not part of, like Aaron Rogers was still the plan when Josh Dobbs was traded to the Cardinals.

Does anybody remember Josh Dobbs getting traded to the Vikings last week? Sorry, I was still in the beginning of the year. No, I'm talking about now. I'm talking about Carson Wins was available. James Winston was available. Jacoby Resett was available. You know, this whole illusion that Aaron Rogers is coming back might play into the whole thing. Because Aaron Rogers is not coming back, people. I'm going to say it right now. He's not coming back. You're saying this season. This season. He will come back next year, and there's rumors of them trading for Devante Adams now, like strong rumors. Like, sources saying it's happening, like it's a done deal. But not this season. You don't come back at 6 and 10 off in Achilles and ruin next year if you re-injure it. And speaking of coaching, I will throw it out. I know that Aaron Rogers has defended this man passionately. But this is now two years where a Nathaniel Hackett offense.

looks like absolute crap. And now look at the Broncos now. The Broncos team, the personnel of this team compared to last year, it's not a, wasn't an overhaul. And they're doing way, way, way better than they were last year. The jets are converting 22.9% of their third downs. That is the lowest. ever for an NFL team. It's the lowest ever. And that's a tough one, right, with the quarterback. And then obviously Sean Payton came into Denver and it wasn't, you know, yeah, it's what a run by Denver right now. I mean, there's a lot to talk about. Let's jump into the news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. I mean, at this point, Zach Wilson is sacking himself. Have you seen some of these? Some of the times he just goes down.

Like when he was backpedaling. Well, that was running onto the field. But yeah, Cooper Cup. This is the season you feared, I mean, a right ankle injury for Cooper Cup. It's not a high ankle. Same ankle he had surgery on last year. It's a little too early to know, you know, they're going to have more information as the week goes on. The earliest reports I saw expect like one missed week. But TBD. Okay. Yeah, it's sad because confidence is now in question, even moving forward when you have an ankle and when you've hurt it twice or you've hurt ankles twice. Devana A. Chan, he pulled the Simpsons meme. Yes, he did. He walked in. He said, what's up? Then he turned around and walked out. And it's the same knee. I can't imagine that Devon A. Chen.

And let me ask your opinion. Does he have fantasy relevance the rest of the year at all for the fantasy playoffs? I do think he will have fantasy relevance in the playoffs. He was back on the sideline questionable to return. So he wasn't ruled out. I don't think this was a mass. I mean, he obviously hurt the knee that was hurting. And so. Whether they keep him away from games, whether they have him play in a sleeve, whether, you know, we don't know yet. We're going to know more information soon. But I don't believe this is some kind of season end for him. And when he gets back out there, you know, there's every reason to believe when he gets back out there, if he doesn't get injured, he will be good. Obviously, there's huge question marks on injury. He was injured in camp.

injured early in the season, went to IR with this, came back and injured again, and part of the issue in drafting Devon A. Chan was his size. You know, will he be able to withstand the beating of NFL players at his size? And so far, the answer has been a resounding, nope. My biggest concern here is you missed, what, four or five weeks? Five, because they had the buy. So you miss five weeks with this injury, and obviously, you know, maybe it's a tweak and it's a two-week thing. I can't imagine he just comes back this week and plays. But maybe we'll pay attention. Clearly wasn't ready, right? I mean, wasn't ready to be back out there. Yep, that would seem so. Aaron Rogers left early with a left. Aaron Jones. Aaron Jones left early with a left knee injury. When he was carted off.

Towel over the head, it looked really, really serious. Thankfully, the early reports before the MRI seemed like it's not a season ender. So this is something where you're probably going to miss a couple weeks and maybe avoid the IR. MRI today to determine the extent of the injury could be an MCL sprain. When you look at it, though, the season's... pretty much a lost season for Aaron Jones at this point. He was the number one running back in football in week one. The good old days. But that was really just two touchdowns, right? 41 yards rushing on nine carries. He had a big breakaway. Was that a reception? Yeah. And then like he had a good game two weeks ago. But I mean, for the most part, now you're going to miss some weeks for sure. What are the Packers going to do? I think probably there's going to move on from everybody. That's what I mean? Like this could be a full

House clear. Full rebuild. Kenneth Walker left the first half with an oblique injury, didn't return. Matthew Betts said it's usually a one to two week thing. Seahawks play on Thanksgiving. Expect that to be the Zach Sharbonnet show. Against the 49ers defense that is not fun to play against. The quote from Pete Carroll was, it was legit. Yeah. Not fake? The legit injury. It was legit. It was too legit. So he had to quit. Yeah. Yeah. Gino Smith is unsure of whether he could play on Thanksgiving. So I think he'll be out there. Dude, what is happening? With injuries? To quarterbacks specifically, what is happening? I think what's happened is they've protected them so well. That they're all fragile. No, no calluses? Yeah, exactly. Their bones are weak. They haven't been hit. You know, there's a pretty.

I mean, look, I don't know the science behind it. And I'm sure every doctor is doing what they think is best for these teams and the adjustments. But I do shake my head sometimes and wonder about the, it's like they used to practice a lot more. And they used to practice and hit each other. And they used to practice in pads. And there weren't limits on all of that stuff. And so, and that's all for player safety. But you do have like this disproportionately large amount of injuries that have transpired. And, you know, I think there are a lot of things Annabelle can do, get rid of turf for one. But, yeah, I just, I think there's a little seed of truth in what you're saying as a joke. Right. Yeah. I think if you're not. It is mostly a joke that they have become fragile. But, you know, you're not used to, you're not used to some of these, these hits.

Deont de Foreman left early with an ankle injury. He did score. Yep. Dary Slayton had a big game, then exited with an arm injury, was ruled out immediately. Bill O'Brien, Patriots Office of the coordinator, basically said that, well, Bill's going to make a decision, the other bill, on their quarterback for week 12. It's undecided right now, as are the Jets quarterback, as is the Jets quarterback situation. Which think. Goodness. Thank goodness. Think goodness. Because this is the first time that it's been undecided for the Jets. It has been a resounding smash the podium. Zach Wilson is our guy every single week leading up to now. Now at least they're saying we have to consider it. Yeah, that's so that the locker room doesn't burn it down. The fury.

When you play defense at the level that they're capable of playing at. Yeah, it's usually... You end up body slamming Stefan Dix. Yeah, I mean, it's usually the defenses that are angry when they're playing well in the offense. I have to imagine the offensive guys are now also ready to burn the locker room down. Like, I would like to be able to receive a target that gets to me. And, I mean, there's no way people can be supporting him playing quarterback unless you are a... Bill's fan or a, you know. You have a lot of Zach Wilson rookie cards in your stash. Right. There's got to be some nefarious reason to support Zach Wilson at this point. That was today's news and notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. Quick break back with the studs. Did you get a watch much of the football yesterday, Mike? I did. I watched quite a large amount of it. Yeah. And you had several injuries. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Through this weekend, let's see, lost Mark Andrews Thursday night. So that tanked the league of record. Yeah, you sold right away. More than likely. And then Dynasty lost Joe Burrow, which means I lost Jamar Chase. And then I lost Ken Walker. So it's going great. Had a nice day. It's great. Anything else you want to get off your chest? You're going to predict any injuries for this week and what you're expecting to happen? I can read off my roster. All right, let's jump into the studs. Talk about some good stuff. Studs of the week, presented by NFL Sunday ticket on YouTube and YouTube TV. I think Trevor Lawrence heard us talk about him. Yeah, he had himself a fine performance. Four touchdowns, two through the air, two on the ground, and finally people stopped starting him. Pulling a little Gabe Davis reverse.

Situation. Started in just 45% of sleeper leagues this week. This is week 11, right? Yes. So this is his first 20 plus point fantasy game since week 15 of last year, Mike. He took Travis E.T's touchdowns, so it bounced back to him. Is this a Zay Jones situation where we would. The difference of Zay Jones being there for Calvin Ridley and for Christian Kirk. When I heard Zay Jones was back, I was very disappointed I had Christian Kirk in my Draft Kings lineup because I was like I was a little bit surprised at the Zay Jones being out there. But it seems to open things up for the offense as a whole, but it changes how they play. Yes, it changes how they utilize Calvin Ridley. So I mean, Calvin Ridley, a monster game as well. Two touchdowns. Yeah.

Brock Purdy, perfect game, pass rating-wise. He also had, what, three touchdowns through the air. We knew it was going to be good. This was real good. Jason started the week. Hurrah. He's been. I was a combo. I wanted to go hooray, but I said hurrah, and I said it really sad. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Brock Purdy, Jason started the week. Yeah, baby. There it is. Hurrah is a. Not when it said the way I said. Right. No, no, no. You said, hurrah. I said it the way like when they're like, your taxes are due. Hurrah. Hurrah. Yeah. Justin Herbert, 260 and 2, 73 rushing yards, tons of design runs and should have should have been like 3.30 and 3, if not for Quentin Johnston, who got separation. Yeah, he was open.

And he separated his hands as well. She's never open. And the ball went through. That's his trick. No matter how open you think I am, I still won't catch the ball. And also a shout out to him for dropping that play because my League of Record season completely over if he just catches the ball he should have caught. I mean, it was a wide open 70 yards, not wide open, but going down the sideline. Decent chance of scoring. I don't see how he doesn't score if he just reels that ball. And he's faster than the defender. And there was no one else there to catch him. But could have fallen down. Thankfully, he decided to kick the ball with his knee and punt that ball away. It was. Kyle makes a good point because I noticed the same thing. Not that I really have an excuse for him in that situation. But they were in comeback mode. And I was watching every play watching Quentin Johnson. And that was, it was fly after fly after fly after fly. Like he had run wind sprints for about.

Two possessions and clearly gassed and didn't catch the ball. Lamar Jackson had the big Thursday night game. Tommy DeVito, big game, 246 and three. Dude. How do the Washington, I mean, how do they have jobs? How do you lose to this Giants team? How? Well, you could give the jets all, like we open, just dumping on the jets. How does Washington lose to Tommy DeVito? And not just lose to him 246 and 3. Well, yeah, I was going to say he was, and he was good. He's the quarterback seven right now. He was 18 for 26, 69% completion, you know. And he's awful. He didn't even run. And he's awful. Like Danny DeVito is. No, Tommy DeVito this week. He was Tommy. He earned his name. He was Danny in the first quarter because he got stacked five times in a quarter.

But he earned Tommy for the rest of the game. All I know is when I see this, when I see that Tommy Danny DeVito threw for 246 of three touchdowns. Yeah, I know where you're going. You know exactly. Yeah, I know where you're going. I'm going a week 12 matchup against you, Andy, and that DAC CD stack against these manders. Hit that Kia again, Brooks. Oh, man. There's just no way. I would sell if I were you. You can binge the rest of your team. It's just DAC and CD are going to together put up 150. It's going to be a real tough week emotionally for this company. Yeah. Because Jason is, I thought Jason was turning a corner on his ability to handle fantasy football. I really did. This past week. I proved you wrong. And then yesterday, I mean, from the first, you know, it's going to be a bad weekend when Jason, like, one of my guys has like a three-yard play. And he's like, oh, no.

And I'm like, I know the rest of the day is going to be bad because if you care about like a three-yard run by my Sequin, when I'm not even playing you. Can you imagine if I had played you yesterday? I mean, he wouldn't have been at the studio. He would have been gone in the first half of the game. I had 109 points on my team. Your team had nine. He had nine points in the first half of the games. He would have left. You ought to run into traffic. I genuinely don't. believe that I can be here in the studio this week for this matchup. He can't, he's going backwards. He's going back. This guy. Fantasy should be, we should be in here and we should be hooping and holler in. Yeah, no, not like my world is over. All right. That's what I hope happens this week. I hope we're just have a fun, playful rivalry that I win. Every time this weekend that my players stand up. You're going to. After like doing anything. They can not even get up target. Get up from a play. As long as they stand up.

Oh, man, I'm going to be so pumped. Guess it'll be me and you this weekend, Mike. Josh Allen ended up with a big game against the Jazz 275 and three. Did you guys see that Ty Johnson run in that game? Oh, yes. Against his old team. We're in 26, you know, seeing a running back coming up the sideline. Shades of Devon Singletary. The coaching staff up there in the offensive play client, they were pumped, man. Pumped. Hey, look. If you had anybody but I can't believe that worked. Yeah. And they didn't use Gabe Davis again. So we'll talk about him later. Yeah. Kyler Murray. Jason, your thoughts on the Kyler game. So Kyler ended up with a good fantasy game. Thankfully, he had 51 yards and a rushing touchdown, a passing touchdown. But I was, I was pretty disappointed with the overall play. He had.

opportunities to do so much more. I believe there were three interceptions from the Cardinals in that game. And the scoring opportunities, the time of possession, just that he left a lot out on the field. And even though it was fine for fantasy and this is, hey, that's great. This is great news if this is like a baseline, right? Like his rushing ability, his health, everything looks good. But something was a little off, whether it's rust or. Maybe I'm not giving enough credit to the Texans defense and it was there doing, but I believe that he is not playing as good as he should. Now, whether that means bad things are ahead because he's just not playing great or whether that's, hey, look, he had a great fantasy performance and he wasn't playing good. If he figures out, you know, how to connect with Hollywood Brown again, you know, does that mean that his fantasy