Sleepers + Buy or Sell, Goin’ Deep! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/26

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What is the proper way to say that? Just growl. The proper pronunciation is... Yeah, I believe it's pronounced. That is correct. All right, let's do some buy sell. Buy or sell, presented by pristine auction. Buy or sell the Patriots running back James White will outperform his current average draft position, which is

The late sixth round running back 31. He finished higher than the RB 31 and three of the last four years with Tom Brady in New England. Two. What's that? Three of the last four. Oh, I'm sorry. I was just saying he's been there. And, yeah, 28th and 2016, 41st and 2017, then 8th in 2018.

22nd last year. But what are you doing? You're buying or selling the fact that James White will outperform his current average draft position. Well, I will say this. He's a perfect name to bring up on a sleeper's show because he is certainly being, you know, you could say he's being disrespected from what he has done in the past. He's always the forgotten man. I...

I forget about him in the sense that whenever we bring up the New England backfield. You know, Sony is, oh, he's back. Oh, he's hurt. Damien Harris is he going to, you know, oh, Lamar Miller's coming in. Don't forget about Rex Burkhead. And I never bring up James White's name, which is not fair since he's the only guy who's been good at fantasy for the last several years. That being said, I do think that there is going to be a large downtick in receptions.

Which, if you followed my kind of narrative about Austin Echler, when you are a guy that the vast majority of your production comes through the air and you lose the super old statue vet that has to dump it down quickly and cannot scramble and get out of the pocket and make plays with his legs, you're going to lose some amount. That's not to say he's not utilized in a pass catching way or that Cam Newton can't use a pass catcher a la.

I don't know, Christian McCaffrey did pretty well. Can I drop some stats on you? Why don't you put them in front of me? I'll look at them. Okay. Okay. Cam Newton. Look out below! I, because you brought up Christian McCaffrey, and I wanted to take a little look at them. We did not identify Cam Newton as a quarterback that works with the running back. You know, the passing game, that was the narrative before Christian McCaffrey arrived.

Newton was the 41st most accurate passer on throws between one and nine yards among quarterbacks with 100 or more attempts in the last three seasons. So he has not been what Tom Brady has been in that close quarters range. Over the last 300 throws, he has an overthrow percentage of 13.2 percent that is better than only Josh Rose and Mason Rudolph and Jeff Driscoll. So he has a tendency to overthrow. Look, Superman's too strong.

Too strong. You try to dink and dunk with that arm. James White is two inches shorter than Christian McCaffrey. Uh-oh. He's got shorter arms. He's got a lower career catch percentage. Thank goodness. And he only put these stats right on me. And he only plays 46% of the snaps last year. So you're a buy. I'm a huge sell. But I look at him the same way that you guys look at Adrian Peterson in Washington, which is.

You don't, there's no like perceived upside for you. Like there's no reason that you want to draft AP in any way, shape, or form, even though I think he will get 200 carries. It doesn't even matter to you. To me, James White with Cam Newton on 46% of snaps represents that nebulous just meh, output. And so for me, it's a sell. Yeah. I'm, I'm going to buy it. I will buy the James White will.

outproduced the running back 31. I have him projected at running back 29 right now, and that's in half point PPR. He's not a player you're going to look at in standard leagues. The outrageous fantasy production you had from a couple years ago, that's not going to happen again. But I still think that, you know, if you're loading up on wide receivers early in the draft, James White is one of those guys later on that I'm fine taking the shot on. The stats are there. The narratives are there.

What if the Patriots are not as good as they were last year? What if, you know, the defense, the second half of the year, once the schedule kind of toughened up on them, the defense wasn't as elite. They had a whole bunch of opt-outs. They've lost some- Chong, High Tower, big pieces on defense. Some great players.

What if they're in a little bit more of a negative game script where it can't just be whoever the ground and pound guy is and James White is forced back on the field and he's on the field for 60% of the snaps? So to me there is upside.

in the targets. I will say this. He has his place in fantasy football. And you nailed it, Mike. If you're going zero RB, if you're one of those people that is stacking your team up in those early rounds at wide receiver quarterback and tight end, and you just need someone that can plug into your running back spot.

while you wait for, you know, a Pollard or an Edmonds or Madison to get their shot, then you grab someone in a PPR league like James White, who will go in there and absolutely give you a floor that is not zero. But I am selling this. I'm on Andy's side here in the sense that I've got him as my running back 39. I think the passing volume goes down. I think the quality of passes to that position goes down as well. And he wasn't.

a dominant force already. So for those reasons combined, Shark Tank, I'm out. How many targets do you guys have him down for? 95 targets, 123, 72. I think he could probably get to that 80-90 target range. I haven't been 73. 73 would be rough. But if he hits the 90 target mark, he's going to have fantasy value. You said if you're going zero RB, James White's a good pickup.

And I think that's true also because he's basically not a running back. He's basically like a slot receiver as a sorts. I mean, 67 total carries last year. That monster year he had, he had 94 carries, but five rushing touchdowns that year. Yeah, it was outlier. So, yeah, I mean, he can definitely finish above 31, even with Cam Newton's deficiencies in that area. But I'm selling it. That was by herself from pristine auction. Pristine auction. Use the code ballers. Get a $10 credit.

towards some sweet sports memorabilia. Let's talk news. News and notes from around the league. A little pup follow-up to that James White discussion. Sony Michelle coming off, the P-U-P. Is it official? I know he was on the field. It's official. According to Judge Giamatti, who has placed this before my eyeballs. So now we will see if the Damien Harris drumbeat and hype can withstand. Yeah. Yeah.

The Damian Harris hype includes some competency in the passing game from what I've read. People excited about the routes run and the way that he's playing in that area of the game. That's why he's more interesting than Sony. For some people, Sony Michelle's back. Okay, I'm completely moving on from Damien Harris. I'm not going to completely move on at this point from the news. It's been so positive about Damien Harris. He...

The odds are against him when someone's a third round pick and they do absolutely nothing in their rookie year, but they're healthy. The odds are against that player. But the reports have been just so positive. Let's see how healthy Sony Michelle actually is. We've got to stay water and be ready to move Damien Harris out of that sleeper range, but I'm just saying I'm not doing that. I'm not taking that action immediately. If you want to know where people are with Sony Michelle, I've gotten messages on Twitter saying,

Do you think I should take him in the 18th round? That's the kind of message that somebody... Like, look, 247 carries for Sony Michelle last year. And from what I can tell, destroyed every single person that had him, that rostered him in this league. 100% of people, furious. I thought he'd be a fantasy MVP for people last year. That was a swing and a miss despite 247 carries. He was a disaster for fantasy owners. And that's why you...

You still draft Sony Michelle. You're just not in an early round or a mid to, in a single digit round, I'm not drafting Sony Michelle, but you. Doesn't Lamar Miller just make it more annoying overall? Again, let's see Lamar Miller make the team first for a guy to show up and just like, he's still on the pup. If Damien Harris is actually showing out, why are they, why would they roster?