Sleepers + Buy or Sell, Goin’ Deep! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/26

all Sony. Well, they're not going to keep all four of them. Yeah, that's what I mean. And right now, Lamar Miller is the odd man out. AJ Green expected to return to practice. All right. As is John Ross worth noting that they're getting their complete wider saving core available. Hopefully, AJ Green could stay at practice. Yeah, T. Higgins, camp talk has been very, very positive.

Anthony Lynch and Mike Williams, wide receiver for the Los Angeles Chargers, could miss the team's season opener with the shoulder injury. Now, the hard knocks bump, we talk about it every year because somebody ends up getting it. It's just human nature. It's on video. You see a player dominating. You fall in love with this player and his personality. There is a player who we're already in love with.

That is Keenan Allen. He's my wide receiver one now, Mike. If you watched Hard Knocks last night and you saw Keenan Allen just leaving Chris Harris in shambles on some of these routes, Mike Williams missing some games. And honestly, we don't know the extent now. We know the collarbone is fine, but Mike Williams from the fantasy doctors on Twitter, like,

There is a huge range of outcomes of how long Mike Williams is actually going to be out with his shoulder injury. Let me redirect the conversation. Okay. A little bit. Are we, we have not said this name aloud. Hunter Henry. I mean, Mike Williams, you talk about what Mike Williams brings to an offense. He's a big boy. Yes. He is the nine-rout field stretching wide receiver. And a red zone threat. You know, go up and win the 50-50 ball. You know, Keenan Allen is going to get targets.

What they represent with Tyrod Taylor, I'm not sure. We've had examples of lots of great wide receivers that have had bad situations. Odell Beckham comes to mind last year. It just didn't work out with Baker. We've talked about Larry Fitzgerald in the past with bad quarterback play. I'm not trying to throw shade all over Tyrod Taylor. I think he's okay. But Hunter Henry is sitting there able to potentially represent more of a value in drafts than Keenan might even represent. I was completely off of Hunter Henry.

before Mike Williams was going to miss time. So yes, I agree that Henry is far more interesting now. And he would be the biggest benefactor of Mike Williams missing time. Jay, I feel like you've kind of still been in on Hunter Henry. I'm in on Hunter Henry as far as being the next tier of tight in and being worth it. I'm out on Hunter Henry as far as actually drafting him because where he's going in a draft. I just don't draft.

sixth, seventh round tight-ins. Well, Jesse Mai just said he's going in the ninth. In the ninth, sure. In the ninth, if that's actually where he falls to come real drafts, I would grab Hunter Henry in the ninth for sure. I like that value. I've just not, I've found in the drafts I've been doing, it's around the middle of the seventh round where I go from players that I think are good and have some kind of known commodity to dart throws where I think the...

probability of your pick mattering by the end of the season and looking back is very low. And so at that point, I need to be past that point to take a tight end. Are we foolish to ignore the Austin Hoopers and Hunter Henry's in favor of some of these upside tight ends, the fans, the Janus, the Hurst, the Hurstens? Well, I mean, I think I see more exciting because we've seen the other ones play a little bit.

You know, I have Hunter Henry ranked above those other guys, and it's really just a matter of where you are in your draft. If you can get Hunter Henry in those late near double-digit rounds, because that's where I've been getting, you know, Haydenhurst or no offense. But I would take Hunter Henry there. But I would rather have Hearst in the 9th or 10th than Hunter Henry in the 6th or 7th. Okay. All right.

We have news that Chris Hogan is working exclusively with the first team offense. That's not a good sign. No. They have just renamed the first team offense, the second team offense. I mean, that's not a good sign for the depth chart. I mean, he was just signed. Yeah, when dude off street goes and runs with the ones.

You are in some trouble. Brooks is typing to me wide receiver for the Jets. Oh, yes. And that's a good point because you might not know where Hogan is these days. Thank you. Thank you, Brooks. Or who Hogan is at all. Look, the New York Jets have been hit by injuries. Their big free agent pickup, Rashad Perman, has been dealing with an injury. Their second round rookie wide receiver pick, Denzel Mims, has been dealing with a hamstring injury. Robbie Anderson, who had that role last year, has left the team. Yeah, so there are.

They're up against it. Once people are healthy, I don't think Chris Hogan is running with the ones, but this is... And this is why we like Chris Herndon as a sleeper tied in, because he has the opportunity to go from a late-round pick to one of the leaders in targets. Like 70 reception, 80 reception potential for Chris Herndon. Dirk cutter expects a minimum of 15 touches for Todd Gurley. Well, that's good because you paid him to be your starting running back. So...

Is that news to you? Well, yeah, I mean, I think it is news. It's coach speak. So you have to decide, do you believe it or not? When I started my guys out this year, I was surprised by how much I was in on Gurley. And that was based on Edo Smith and Brian Hill, I don't think are good. And not good enough to really take over, in which case, you know, it's the Todd Gurley show. He's a one-year contract for a...

coach who has to win or get out. I think they're going to use him. And Mike, you've brought up some stats that make you question, okay, well, they used Devon Tremont Freeman. He wasn't any good. Maybe they're just going to use Todd Gurley. He's not any good. And the same thing you could say, like last year, Todd Gurley was he averaged 17 touches the game. So he was in that range. And it took 14 touchdowns just to turn him into the running back 14.

Is Todd Greeley going to get 14 touchdowns with the Atlanta Falcons? Well, I mean, we've talked about this. A reception is worth so much more than a carry. No, he's not. Thank you, Andy. If you're talking about... Sidespepping the questions over here. I'm not sidestepping the questions. Answer the question! He's not going to get 14 touchdowns, but if his total touches are far more in the reception side than in the carry side, that's going to make up some ground. And then the nice thing is...

I've seen Gurley drop. People don't want him now. He's dropping. You know, if you can get Gurley. Mike's work here is done. Yes. You have, you have. Where have you seen him dropping to? I want to know if I'm in on this. Fifth round is the latest I've seen. Now that was in a much more casual league where quarterbacks are going to go higher. But let's say, you know, late fourth round. No, fourth I'm not in. Fifth, I'm probably not in. Gurley David Montgomery, Jason.

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All right, we did a breakout show yesterday. Today we're talking about sleepers, and we did a early sleeper pick show back on the 23rd of June. I want to see where you guys sit with the players that you brought up then. Mike, you talked about Randall Cobb. Do you still view him as a sleeper? 100%. I have shifted that I do believe Will Fuller will be the breakout wide receiver from this team, but...

Like I was saying, you need to leave margin. You need to leave room for a range of outcomes. And we simply don't know what's going to happen with the passing game for the Houston Texans. And people want Fuller, people want to draft cooks. But Randall Cobb could see a whole bunch of targets as the slot wide receiver. I realized yesterday we were in the middle of a family draft. I tweeted the first eight rounds, Jason of my team. Like our kids are in it.

Our wives are playing. It's been really fun. I didn't get Will Fuller in the eighth round, and I was devastated. I found out that I'm in love with Will Fuller. You guys are certainly on that side. You have both developed into believers, and you're seeking him out in drafts, drafting him or being sad that he's drafted. I still believe Brandon Cooks is the wide receiver to own. I feel like we need some sort of... The roster. Yes, some sort of...

Bet, some water bet. Brandon Cook's v. Will Fuller. Yeah. How about that? Yeah, that's it. Okay. Mike, you want in on the Will Fuller side? Two for one. Heck yes. Water bet. It's been a while. We haven't had a water bet in a while. You're welcome. Yeah. The last one might have been.

The J.K. Dobbins, Gus Edwards bet we made. Oh, that was, that's a hot bet. What's the first four weeks, touches or something like that? That is correct. Go Dobbins. Yeah, we only deal with the big names here on the show. Jason and the early sleeper show, you brought up Boston Scott. Still believe Boston Scott's a sleeper. Great, Scott. I certainly do. Running back for the Philadelphia Eagles, while I think Miles Sanders is a very, very good pick. Great.

I think great Scott is going to be fantastic because he's a PPR guy. You know, we brought up James White in the beginning. You know, Carson Wince will absolutely use Boston Scott at the end of the last year. Boston Scott was really valuable. Now, that came when there were no other wide receivers and the health of the pass catchers was a giant question mark. But he broke out and he has full stranglehold on the number two running back position, which is part of why I like Miles Sanders so much because it's not like...

Boston Scott, I mean, if you don't know who Boston Scott is, you got to look hard. You can miss him. He's not a big guy out there. He's a Darren Sproles guy. Exactly right. So he's not going to just take, you know, he's not Jordan Howard. He's not going to be splitting carries with Miles Sanders. But I do think in a PPR league, Boston Scott is a good name to know. He averaged, once he finally like took that backup job over those final four weeks, he was averaging, you know, just over six targets a game. So he's interesting.

I want you to know something, Jason. I agree with you. Oh, fantastic. It's finally happened. I had Michael Pittman Jr., rookie wide receiver for the Indianapolis Colts on the 623 show. I will say that I have like three players in Indianapolis that I believe are sleepers, Michael Pittman, Paris Campbell, and Naim Hines. Like I think all three of them are very interesting. And so I would say that I've...