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WR Rankings Part 2 + Buy & Sell, Bum Bum Comfort
WR Rankings Part 2 + Buy & Sell, Bum Bum Comfort
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Hi, this is Eric Dickinson, NFL Hall of Famer, and you listen to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. To the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Coming to you from pristineauction.com studios with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. Much better, Andy, much better. The plane came in for the landing. I wasn't sure, but it worked out.
Welcome in to the fantasy footballers podcast for Wednesday, August 7th. I know for Mike's family and my own, it's the first day of school. It is. Foot Clan, thank you so much for your patience. It shows out just a little bit later today because I had to drop off my little baby. My baby boy is all growns up going to kindergarten. Yeah, my daughter started today too.
slackers hard to comprehend we are old mike i i was old not old still old am old and was a very weepy man yeah this morning yeah um with with our boys going to school they were really resistant they were you know grab grab us don't get out of the car uh my daughter was like peace out like she she didn't look back she just basically had her big brothers with her it was it was fun so um but yeah
We've got a great show for you today, getting into the wide receiver rankings, the second half. We did the top 10 yesterday. It's a good show. Very interesting. It was a great show. But these are some of the names we get to bring up today, more discussion, more debate, different beliefs about what they're doing. We're also going to be bringing you a brand new on Wednesdays.
Our quick question is going to be a little different. We've got a little mini segment, some buy-sell stuff we're going to do on Wednesdays. And so I'm excited about that. A couple other reminders. You can follow us on Twitter at the FF Ballers. We appreciate you subscribing, reviewing the show. You can listen on Apple Podcast. You can listen over on Spotify, on Google Podcast. You can listen on Stitcher.
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The season's coming quick. Let's go ahead and kick this thing off. Buy or sell, presented by pristine auction. All right, buy or sell. If James Winston starts 16 games, he will beat his career highs, his career season high.
of 28 passing touchdown. 16 games of healthy James Winston will he throw for, let's say this, more than 28 touchdowns. His 16 game pace last year was in fact 28 touchdowns. Oh, what a question. Buy or sell? I'm buying. I believe he will beat it and I'm not buying that on the basis of James so much as the basis of O.J. Howard and Chris Godwin being really great.
touchdown threats opposite Mike Evans. He's got the tools, the weapons, the offensive coordinator as a head coach calling the plays. I believe that James Winston will beat it if he plays 16. I will, I like the way it's worded. Start 16 games. I'm not banking on injury, but other things can go wrong for James. I will, I will buy that. Every quarterback that Bruce Ariens touches, their average.
depth of target is their career high. So he's going to be throwing the ball down the field. They did lose 179 targets with Humphreys leaving town to Sean Jackson. It's okay. O.J. Howard's got this. They got Brashad Perryman. Oh, we're good. So I'm buying. Mike. What are you doing? For 16, I will buy over 20. I mean, what are these shares cost? What are we going at right? Are we at like $1.50?
I think you'd have to look at James's ADP to figure out what it costs to go in on him. If he plays 16, he will beat his ADP. Which is the middle of the 10th round. Yes. Okay. All right, buy or sell number two. Kyler Murray will live up to his current draft cost, which is the eighth round, the QB8 now. The hype is real for Kyler Murray. Buy or sell? QB8? I'm going to sell. I buy the hype. Boo.
I know. I know. I buy the hype. I think Kyler is going to be great. But for him to be in the top eight quarterbacks, that's not just an anti-Kyler thing. That's saying, okay, he's going to probably be beating Baker or some guys that right now are slated ahead of him in order to stay in the top eight. Regardless, let's say he does. Let's say he is the quarterback eight. He does not.
I would not draft that in the eighth round. Well, I'm not spending an eighth round pick on the quarterback eight when I can spend a 11th or 12th round pick on someone I could stream the position. I mean, a couple of years ago, we tracked our streaming for those out that are newer. We make a weekly streaming pick every week. And our average quarterback weekly finish was the quarterback six.
playing off of the waiver wire. So, yeah, an eighth round pick to get the eighth quarterback is not value. Cam Newton, Russell Wilson, Jared Goff, James Winston, Lamar Jackson, all going behind him, Kyler Murray. I'll sell it as well. That doesn't mean I don't think that the range of outcomes for Murray is a top five finish. But look, you're talking about a rookie coming into the NFL, growing pains, maybe physical pains. I mean, he's going to run the football. And in the NFL,
That could be enough to knock you out of that top eight. What's going on here, Jay? I think there's a, like, I know I sold, but there's probably a pretty good chance. He's the number one quarterback of the NFL this year, right guys? Like the best of all time. Did you remember you were a Cardinals fan just now? Just now. The margin for error at the QBA is just, it's too high for me. So you're selling as well? Yeah, I have to sell, even though I have them finishing right around there. All right, we'll do one more. Then we'll jump into the news. Lamar Jackson.
25 total touchdowns on the season. Oh my. 25 total touchdowns buy or sell. I'm going to have to go with what I statted out. I have him with 19 passing touchdowns and six rushing touchdown. Oh, that's a push. Oh, yeah. I'm a buy. I believe he has 25 all.
purpose touchdowns this season. I guess that means I'm a sell. I have him statted for 16 passing touchdowns and six rushing, which would not get it done. I'm a sell as well. All right, that was by herself from pristine auction. We're going to do that each and every Wednesday. Let's get into the news. News and notes from around the league presented by sleeper. All right, I tweeted something this morning that people didn't like very much. I think 49ers fans more than anybody.
And look, I could be wrong. That's the nature of projections. You tweeted about the 49ers. Yeah. And it wasn't just Matt Berita gifts. No, but in the roundabout way, all of my tweets are compliments of Matt Berita. The 49ers activated Jerich McKinnon from the active PUP. If you listen to things around camp, he was off to the side doing some individual drills. I tweeted out that I believe that Jerich McKinnon does not factor into the plans for the 49ers this year.
by way of like he's not going to be one of the top three producers in fantasy at the position on their team. It's interesting. So you have the colonel. You have Rahim Moster ahead of him. Moster or Jeff Wilson. Right now Jeff Wilson is ahead of him and showing well in camp in terms of the kind of first swing at the depth chart. Wilson's ahead of Moster. Moster got some cash, I think. But yeah, Coleman, Breda, and a third body. I just look.
People want to believe the narrative that this was a handpick Kyle Shanahan player, and so he's going to get his opportunity. Things change in the NFL. And obviously, we've seen a head coach pivot, right? He didn't have enough confidence to, you know, in the stable of running backs, not go after Tevin Coleman when the opportunity presented itself. And sometimes players get hurt.
and you change your plans as a head coach and as a franchise. I just think the journey to McKinnon being fantasy relevant is more difficult than people think it is. What do you guys think about that? I would say... People did not like that take, by the way. I would say it's a hot take to say he wouldn't be one of the top three running backs on San Francisco. I agree with you that plans do change, but...
He was a hand-chosen running back by Kyle Shanahan, and through no fault of Jerich McKinnon, he was ready, by all accounts, to be the main guy for San Francisco last year towards ACL right before the season started. That's not, Jerich doesn't have control of that. So as long as he is working, the plans may have shifted that they're bringing him more backup options. But it would be, it would be strange to me if Kyle Shanahan gave Jerich.
and company, not just Shanahan, obviously, but if they brought in Jerich Buchanan, gave him a lot of money for a running back, then he gets hurt, they go, wow, this guy's a bum, he can't play. You just paid him and brought him in, and you haven't had a chance to see if he is a bum or not. So I think he will still receive.
plenty of chances and we'll be in the top three of the team. Yeah, and you could be absolutely right. It was a lot of money spent. I think they could cut him. I think that I also think that sometimes you handpick guys bring them in and you don't see what you won after an injury. Cameron Meredith last year never materialized as a wide receiver for the Saints. They brought him in. They wanted to see what he had. At this point in time, you certainly don't do yourself any favors as an organization playing a guy that you paid previously.
if they're not up to snuff. And a lot of that has to be agreed with the fact that he is recovering from this, had a setback, had a flare up. If he was, you know, if all the reports over the last four months was, oh my gosh, this guy looks ready to rumble, I wouldn't believe that. Right. But it's been the exact opposite. The fact that he had his knee swell up again says to me that there's no way he's going to enter, like he's not going to come back in. And once he's approved for team drills, okay, you're at the front of the line. He's starting now at the back of at least those three. But he definitely has.
a shortcut pass in his back pocket. I don't know that the money is. No, I'm not even just talking about the, it's not just the money. It's, they saw something in Jerich McKinnon and they brought him in. Right, but that was before they saw what, but that was before they brought in Tevin Coleman and before they saw what they had in Berita. I'm saying to skip ahead of Colonel Mustard and Jeff Wilson. That's all I mean. Yeah, no doubt. Damien Williams, Mike, he returned to practice.
