But the point is, I am comfortable with Adam Thielen as my one. I don't have a pebble in my foot feeling. I think he's going to be what he's been for fantasy the last couple years, which is a really consistent, hyper-targeted player for a good offense. Number 12, Julian Edelman. If you had made me list three players that my opinion was changing on on yesterday's show. I went with Christian Kirk. Edelman's one of the guys that I've bumped down a little bit in my rankings a couple of times.
WR Rankings Part 2 + Buy & Sell, Bum Bum Comfort
WR Rankings Part 2 + Buy & Sell, Bum Bum Comfort
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144 passagesover the last week. I'm starting this out because I know I'm going to get the opposite argument from the two guys sitting next to me. I just do not believe that Julian Edelman is going to be able to do a handful of things. Number one, he's 33 years old. We're dealing with AJ Green's age and recovery time. Julian Edelman is not a pinnacle of health. He rarely plays a full season. He's struggled to do so. I have him ranked at 17 for context. Jason at 12, Mike at 9.
He's never finished above 16 on the course of a full season, and I just don't believe he's going to do it at 33. I am optimistic that he's going to be peppered with targets and a really, really good PPR target. But even in the incredible pace he had last year, which was about 100 receptions, 1,100 yards, eight touchdowns on 144 targets. That's the pace if you projected his whole season. Even with that, you didn't get any great games from Julian Edelman last year. He is a very PPR.
no touchdown guarantee type of player. And so I've moved him down a little bit, just believing that at the end of the season, he's not going to be in that top 12 category. And I don't mind the take that by the end of the season, he won't be in the top 12 because I agree. It's hard to project that Julian Edelman is going to give you a full 16 games. But when he is playing, and let's say you only get 10 games. Where is he being drafted currently? In the 403.
Wide receiver 15. Wide receiver 15 who will, in my opinion, you get those first 10 weeks, he will exceed wide receiver 15 for those 10 games. And that's, to me, enough, enough draft value from him. And then knowing that if he goes to full 16, he's going to be great. Last year, once he was back from the suspension, he was the wide receiver 8. He was 0.3 points per game behind Michael Thomas. He was a half point per game.
behind Juju Smith's Schuster. He was awesome last year. Very safe. I mean, as safe of a player as you can get, his target share is guaranteed in that offense. Yeah, his targets historically without Gronk, he averages almost 11 targets a game. His volume will be safe. Maybe he doesn't give you great games, but. He doesn't give you bad games. He doesn't give you bad games, exactly. And you know he can be a stabilizing force. Like, let's say you go in on Tyreek Hill early.
Tyreek Hill was up for a top end wide receiver. He busted more than the other guys, but his booms are boom, boom, boom. You combine him with someone safer like Julian Edelman and just stabilize your wide receiver core. I'm in on Julian Edelman knowing that he definitely, not definitely, but it's unlikely that he plays a full 16th. Yeah, I mean. It does seem like you statted him, though, to be kind of at his ceiling.
in terms of projection totals, right? You, you, you, I projected him as a healthy Julian. I projected him for 16. Got it. Yeah, I mean, I echo what these two fine looking gentlemen have said. It's about time. He's extremely, uh, consistent. He only had two games last year where he wasn't a wide receiver two or better. He always was either a back end wide receiver one or a high end wide receiver two week in week out. And if you look at 2016 when you had.
a large chunk of missing gronk game planned that way, not just like he messed, you know, he was out of the game. That's where Julian Edelman was, you know, 160 targets was clearly leading the way. He didn't have the touchdowns on that season. That's, that was the issue. But we've seen Julian Edelman. We've seen him do it, yeah. Have a high rate of touchdowns too. So I, you know, do I think he's a 10 touchdown guy? No. Can Tom Brady turn him into that if the chips fall right?
Sure. So I'm fine with him where he's going. I mean, he's going next to like Amari Cooper. I would much rather have the consistent play. Even if at the end of the year, Cooper finishes a spot or two ahead of Julian Edelman for fantasy purposes in a league, I would rather have the consistency of Edelman. My last point I will make the contract extension for Julian Edelman. It boosts my confidence. The New England Patriots are notorious for when they believe a player is done, they are done.
They're moving on, but they clearly think that Edelman has gas left in the tank. I would feel more comfortable with Adam Thielen than Edelman as my wide receiver one. What do you guys think? Me too. But it's a round difference, correct? Sure. 4-03 to 303, yeah. Yeah, pretty much. I would love those two guys. You're not drafting Edelman as a one unless you have gone running back, running back, running back. If you go running back, running back, you could probably have.
Thiel and Edelman is your next two picks. Robert Woods comes in at number 13. We don't have to linger too long here. Jason has made a robust Robert Woods. What would you? A love poem. A soliloquy. No, no. More from like a rooftop or a... Nope. It's a defense. I made a defense. I'm coming to the defense of Robert Woods because... But you're defending him more against like...
Like the air. You're defending him against the straw man. He finished 10th. And we both like him. So you're not defending him against us. I'm defending him against the populace out there. Literally yesterday on Twitter, there was a big thread from calculator on just like.
They don't believe in Robert Woods that, you know, they just don't think he is capable of being a one. You're searching these things out to put it on your bulletin board material for these shows. He gets the Google alerts every time Robert Woods is negative. Any negative associated thing. The synopsis is this. I believe that Robert Woods is a very good wide receiver. I believe he's the wide receiver one for one of the top three offenses in the league and that he will be a top 15 wide receiver.
And he'll be extremely consistent along the way of doing that. If you want the details and all the stats and everything, go listen to the My Guys episode two episodes ago because I go in depth. Yeah. And one thing brought up worth mentioning last year at 157 rushing yards. There were only five wideouts that crossed 100 rushing yards. Cordero Patterson, DJ Moore, Robert Woods, Tyreek Hill, Julian Edelman. That equates to about 2.6 touchdowns on top of his fantasy numbers.
Do you think he does that again? Yes. Since he's been a ram, he's been used in the running game since McVeigh's been there. Well, 2017, he had two carries. See? He did say been used. Okay. Fair. Yeah, that's one of those things. I'm not counting on that. That's a pretty good. Those jump from year to year. Because really, that's probably.
breaking a long play or not breaking a long play on one of your ender rounds. A great part of drafting Robert Woods is I'm with Jason, wide receiver one for the Rams. But if he's the two or the three, he's still great. Well, you're saying different things too when you talk about the Rams wide receivers. That's my point. There's the number one. Target, then there's the one that receives the most targets. You're not necessarily, Trent Taylor in San Francisco could very well have the most targets and receptions on the roster.
Is he the number one target for that team? I think it's probably not him. It's probably Dante Pettis on the outside. Woods, well, you're saying is going to finish as the best fantasy finisher on this team. Regardless of what we label him as, you believe he'll be the best fantasy finisher. That's the point. Yes. And so you have met 11, Mike at 13, I've met 14, and his ADP is wide receiver 17. So we all look at him as a value right now. Let's talk about a guy. Real quick, regarding the rushing.
So in 2017, no, just because I remember looking this up and being confident when I statted out rushing. Okay. Couldn't remember why. It's because in 2017, Tavon Austin had 59 rushing attempts. They used the wide receiver in the running game, but now that's Woods. Sure. That's why. I am confident in his rushing this year. All right. Keenan Allen at 14. I got him at nine. I can't imagine taking.
personally taking Woods over Keenan Allen myself. Jason at 15, Mike at 14. His average draft position, though, is the top of the third round. So that could be a reason to take Robert Woods over him if you want to wait another little Bitsky in the draft. But Keenan Allen last year finished as the wide receiver 12, the year before, wide receiver 3. His consistency rate was 12 last year. He had 97 receptions.
1,200 yards, 6 touchdowns, 136 targets. If Melvin Gordon doesn't play. Oh, my goodness. How does this help Keenan Allen, Mike? He has had tremendous success when, let's just look at last year, the three games he played in full where Melvin Gordon was not there. He went from about 8.5 targets up to 11, 75 yards to 100.
16 PPR points up to nearly 22. It was a huge jump. He becomes more of a fill in for those targets. Austin Echler certainly would fill in for a bit of the running back targets, but Keenan Allen's overall market share would go up if Melvin Gordon does indeed hold out. I agree with that. I mean, if he was missing games, you're going to have Keenan off to a hot start. He's clearly the number one for this offense. The reason I've got him ranked...
a little bit lower is simply, I think that, you know, Mike Williams is obviously coming into his own. He's being a highly drafted middle round guy who, you know, last year, 11 total touchdowns. You have Hunter Henry coming back. I think around the goal line, it's not Keenan Allen's world. He's had six touchdowns of the previous two seasons. Obviously two years ago, that was fine. He was still the wide receiver three. So Keenan Allen has that upside where if you want a guy who could be a top.
six wide receiver. We know he can. But I, I believe with the volume, though. Right. He has to have the volume. And I think with the emergence of Mike Williams and Hunter Henry coming back, I worry that he's not going to be able to get up over the six touchdowns. And he'll be more of that low-end wide receiver one, high-end wide receiver two. That's, that's why I've got him a little lower. All right, number 15. All right, it's Amari Cooper.
And look, I'm in on Amari Cooper this year. I have him at 10. Jason and Mike have him at 16. And I'm going to tell you the secret code for Amari Cooper that's going to disrupt the way that we view him after this year is done. I think Amari Cooper will be much more consistent because I believe that the Dallas Cowboys will be a much, much better offense under Kellan Moore, which is going to help stabilize Amari Cooper. Amari Cooper has already shown us none of us would argue.
what he's capable of as a receiver. He has incredible top-end talent. The problem has been consistency. Dallas under Scott Linehan finished at 17 and then last year 22 in points scored over the last two years. There's a lot of excitement about what Kellamore is going to bring to the offensive play calling. I believe that they're going to be a top 10 type of offense this year. And that's all there is to it. If you're going to move them up in terms of scoring on that...
You know, Dak Prescott and Company, you know Cooper's the number one target on that roster. And so I believe them just being a more consistent offensive team is going to help stabilize some of what Cooper does. And then he can still win you a week. I am rising on Amari Cooper. I like a lot of what you said, Andy. Kellyn Moore is the reason I was watching some film.
some just fan-filmed stuff from the training camp, and you could see how different the motions and the pre-snap work was. It looked more like what the Rams do than what the Cowboys have done over the past few years, and it was exciting. It was like, oh, my goodness, are they going to, like, spread things out?
pass the ball a little bit more, get it to the running back through the air. I love that. I do think it's kind of an opposite situation from, you know, if Melvin Gordon misses time, Keenan Allen gets a bump. I think if Zeke misses time, Amari Cooper and the whole offense of the Cowboys, which usually runs through Zeke, I don't think Dak Prescott is in the, obviously in the Tony Pollard season. No, no, you're right. You're right.
Philip Rivers and being able to still, you know, overcome that completely. So I think Cooper, if Zeke happens to hold out, would take a bump. I know he's had consistency problems. He's just a really, really good receiver guy. He is. He's a great. Look at his success by route and reception perception. But he just disappears. Above average, every single route outside of the dig in the comeback. He just disappears so many times. And in those games, it's, he's just not like, it's weird. It's not like, you know, he's.
