WR Rankings Part 2 + Buy & Sell, Bum Bum Comfort

I feel like Damian Williams had such. Are you relieved over there? Yes. That sounded more like you were being cut open. Birthed by a hippo? I don't know what that was. But here's the thing. That was sound of relief, sweet relief at that. Damian Williams returns to practice. There was some negative, you know, some pressure put on by Andy Reed. I hope he returned with an okay hamstring. That would be nice. Yeah.

But he'll get the first team reps again. John Gruden said that the team, the Raiders, they are gathering information. That was the hard knocks. Give me the hard knocks horn. Give it to me, Mike. I need it. No, I can't. I have to let you sit on that island of that weird horn melody you just played. What was that? From a distance.

It was much more adult contemporary than the Hard Knocks theme song. Look, right now the report yesterday, according to Chris Sims, was that Antonio Brown, the foot issue he's dealing with, and if you watched Hard Knocks last night, you watched him try to walk. It was a hard walk last night for Antonio Brown. They say he entered a cryotherapy machine without the proper footwear on. What? I don't need those.

And now he's paying the price with potentially frostbitten feet. That is speculation. That is not an official team report. It's not confirmed by the team. No, Gruden won't comment about it. Gruden's frustrated not having him on the field. But that being said, he's seen a specialist. He's considered day to day. And I think we probably won't be talking about. Is he visiting Mr. Freeze? I wasn't sure what reference you wanted to go with there, Mike. Maddie Ice has competition now. Oh.

If you're the head coach of the Raiders and your superstar player has gone into a cryotherapy machine and received a level of frostbite on his feet. Of course you cannot comment on it. You cannot let that ever get out into the public as confirmation. Well, it definitely seemed like if you watch Hard Knocks and that was filmed, you know, literally earlier, I think last week, you could tell that Gruden didn't know.

He was not intimately familiar with even the timeline for recovery with Antonio Brown. He was just asking, like, do we have him today? Is he ready? And he clearly was not. That was just so interesting to me when I was watching going like, wait, how does he not know exactly what's going on with Antonio Browns? I bet that happens all the time with coaches. They don't know if I thought you met the cryotherapy machine. No, no, like we should get out of that. No, but I imagine that the coach has so much on his plate.

That's why he has the training staff. And he goes, do I have Brown today? No. Okay. And then when you say no, five times, you get real frustrated. Yes. Especially when you invested the future of your franchise. So we'll monitor that right now. There's no indication that you won't be ready for week one, but that can change. I mean, this could take longer than we think. And then I do want to bring up a name we haven't brought up before. Darren Waller.

who around the office, you know, he's known as the Walleris. I am the Walleris. Because that's, this is the fantasy. Because that's what we do. Because this is the fantasy footballers. So the Walleris himself. Oh, man. Andy Reed jokes flooding my mind. It's a masterpiece. I'm bringing his name up. And a couple weeks ago, I adjusted him in the ultimate draft kit. Darren Waller is the Raiders starting tight end.

Return to practice. He has been flashing in camp. If you listen to what Gruden talks about, he's talked a lot about Tyrell Williams looking great. He's talked about Darren Waller looking great. He's a hyper-athlete. And he's worth mentioning because sometimes you can't change quarterbacks from what they are. So if you believe that Derek Carr isn't going to be willing to drive the ball down the field, even with the weapons that he has, you saw what he did with an athletic tight-in last year with Jared Cook, which is to make him hyper-relevant.

All that to say, Waller's at like 19 or 20 on my tied-in rankings right now. But he does have an opportunity there, and I think he should be brought up in an up-and-coming tight-in category. Yeah, he's tied to Antonio Brown to me. If Antonio Brown really struggles to get his feet right and to be the player that we know he is, or if he misses time unexpectedly, then Waller could very well end up being the number one target the same way that Cook is, and every beat reporter.

that's out at camp has just been talking about Waller torching everybody in any kind of one-on-one drills. He's, he's been dominant. He's a converted wide receiver too tight in, so he's very good at the past catching roll. Also, for what it's worth, could probably handle the cold better being a Waller. A Waller's. And a fun fact from his Wikipedia page, apparently he was the great grandson of Jazz Legend Fats Waller. Yes. Well, now, great. Quincy and Noon Raw.

exited Tuesday's practice with a groin injury. They say probably day to day. Oh, I want to get in on this. Of course, of course you do. You guys can bring any of your stuff forward with your, my guys. They talked, we had this exact same hype piece in, we didn't bring it up, but yesterday's show had the exact same hype piece about Jordan Howard. And we bypassed it. Chris Carson. There's a difference. The Seattle.

Seahawks want to get Chris Carson and Rashad Penny more involved in the passing game. Brian Schottenheimer came out and said, look, he has, I don't remember the word he used, but he said he had incredible hands. I think there's a better word, but I mean. Both of them. Both of them are very good pass catchers. That's the difference between Jordan Howard, you know, getting the fluff piece on being more involved in the passing. And we know Jordan Howard tried and tried and tried. He's not a pass catchback, not going to.

succeed in that role. But both Chris Carson and Rashad Penny are talented pass catchers that have not been utilized in that role. So if they're seeing from camp that they're trying to make a concerted effort to get their backs the ball through the air, which would be very smart for the Seahawks. And then you factor in that you lost Mike Davis, who kind of was the guy in that role when it was needed for Seattle last year.

Both Chris Carson and Rashad Penny could get a bump up here if there's more targets going to the running back than we expect. Yeah, it's funny when like Sonny Michelle and Carson, some of these guys that you don't prototypically think of as past catchers get some buzz around here because that's what translates you into a break, you know, the next tier of running back. And no, Doug Baldwin, you know, this passing game is still materializing. So that was today's news and notes. A reminder, Sleeper does not just break the latest fantasy news. They're also the best fantasy football platform.

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All right, his current average draft position is 304. That's the wide receiver 11, right where we have him ranked. I got him at 15, Jason 10, Mike 12. Last year, my goodness. I mean, he finished the season as the wide receiver 7, the year before, wide receiver 10. It was a tale of two halves. Weeks one through nine, there was really nobody more consistent, more dominant than Adam Thielen. He was a super saying.

It was outrageous what he was doing in the first half. Yeah, had all the power-ups, all the cheat codes. Over the second half of the year, you really only had like one big game in week 12. Otherwise, look, 12 points, 11, 10, 2, 10, 5. We, you know, blur our eyes to not look at those numbers over the second half when we're trying to figure out what he's going to do this upcoming year. He ran 46% of his routes from the slot.

Kurt Cousins, Stefan Diggs, how comfortable would you be having Adam Thielen as your wide receiver won on your fantasy roster? I would say the comfort level, it's not. Is it two-ply? No, it's more like, it's not a big one, but like a small pebble in my shoe. Like, it's slightly uncomfortable, but I can certainly handle it. I can get through my day. You could ignore it a little bit? I can ignore it. I can ignore it.

Small pebble? I can't ignore a small pebble in my shoe all day. I don't have Antonio Brown feet. We're good to go. I can ignore it. I can live with it. The first eight games, he was 100 plus yards, eight out of eight, 10 plus targets and seven out of eight of those games. And the final eight games, over 100 yards just twice, 10 plus targets twice, the wide receiver 30 and points per game. And what's really hard about both Adam Thielen and I guess we're jumping ahead a little bit to Diggs,

It's... I'll allow it. It's going off of projection. You know that they're both studs. They're elite wide receivers, possibly the best wide receiver tandem in the NFL. But they also fired their offensive coordinator for throwing the ball too much. They're in a... They've brought in people who are very run-centric, including Kubes, getting that Gary Kubiak running scheme involved there. But you know that they're great and they've been paid a lot of money.

The second half definitely doesn't indicate what Adam Thielen is. I mean, that was, you know, it was too extreme. They lost three, they only won three of those games in the second half of the season. They also played the Chicago Bears two times in that stretch, which, eh, the Bears are pretty good. They do play them two times every year. They do, but they don't necessarily, I'm saying that that colors the numbers over that stretch of games to where, you know, it just.

gives you more of an extreme feeling about Thiel. And I think he will be okay, obviously. Well, and like the first time they played the Bears, he received 12 targets. It wasn't a great game. It was still seven for 66. But that final game, four targets. And that's when that was after the offensive coordinator change had been made, not saying you can extrapolate from a three-game sample of that OC. But it's...

It should feel great to have Adam Thielen as your wide receiver won. It should be brand new socks in your brand, no, not even brand, worn in shoes. It's comfy, but it's not. He was still, despite that stretch, the eighth most consistent fantasy wide receiver. He was still hitting double digits in the majority of those games. You only had 13% bust rate. I'm okay with him as my one if I go running back, running back. I really am. But it should feel better than it does.

I think it will on certain weeks. Look, I mean. The only ones I'll pay attention to. When people want to extrapolate the change of coordinator and look at the games, Mike, you've brought up specifically how wacky some of those games were the rushing totals that they had and the fact that Adam Thielen wasn't necessarily needed in those games. But the reality is this, the last two seasons, he's been the number one target for Kirk Cousins. And he is.

I believe firmly, the number one wide receiver paid as a number one wide receiver for an NFL team that is good. So, I mean, I think sometimes we overcomplicate this, right? Like he had 153 targets last year. He only had 142 targets the year before. Maybe he drops down to about that level as they pass the ball a little bit less. But two years ago, he was the wide receiver 10. Last year is the wide receiver 7. He's a wide receiver 1.

Through the first nine weeks, he was the wide receiver one. So we've seen the upside. He has the ability to do that. So I am, like, to me, I feel like he is a slightly different brand than Charmin Ultra, but it's still, it's not just two players. Not a sponsor. You just like it on your bum bum. Right. Well, of course, you know, I'm not a monster.