Week 5 Waivers & Streamers + THE Mark Andrews Discussion - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/1

to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. Welcome into the fantasy footballers podcast. Mike, the fantasy hitman, Jason Moore. I'm Andy Holloway. Back with you on this fine Tuesday, whenever you're listening. We're recording here early morning, fresh off of a split.

Monday night football. Oh, it was not split. Experience. It was not split. We had what we should have, which is one really good Monday night football game. That's all that the NFL gave us. One game. Yeah. I watched the heck of that Lions Seahawks game. That was a great game. It was awesome. Really impressive performance by Seattle in that game. Yeah. I mean, everyone was awesome in that game. Well. I guess Laporta was okay. Four for 50. No, yeah. I mean, in this economy, in this economy, Leporta, I take it back. He was amazing. I received multiple tweets saying, why do I feel so good that Leporta was four for 57? That's where you're at, bro. Yeah. Welcome in. Happy to be back with you. Appreciate you guys holding it down yesterday. And we'll jump in with what I'm observing inducers alley. Yeah, there it is.

Hold up that jersey, Josh. Let's see. Oh. We have. Yeah. Is, uh, paying his comeuppance as a former Saints fan, uh, losing to Kyle's Falcons. Yeah, go ahead and stand up. Oh, he is old display. Yeah, Michael Pinnock. Oh, okay. Yeah, I got the Michael Pinnock's jersey on. Yeah. Face is painted, beautiful black and red. He's the future. Josh, like, Pennix is the future and Josh is a future Falcons fan. Wow. How do you feel, Josh? Go dirty birds. Yeah, there you go. Oh, did you have to say that too? Well, I mean, here's what it also means. It means that Jason hasn't had to put a W on that Saints thermometer behind him. That's right. I could just start throwing these Ws away because the Saints are never winning again. And good for you. Your hair is safe. Well, he's just naturally losing the hair right now instead of unnaturally. Right. I am.

I am progressing towards completion of this bet without a razor. Right. YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers if you want to check out the various aesthetic bets being made by the fantasy footballers. We have, we got those games to talk about and the implications of some of the quarterbacking. Yeah, let's get through the sadness first. The Titans in the Miami game. Let's see here. Starting quarterback. Tyler Huntley threw the ball 22 times. He ended up with 96 passing yards. That's a full game. It's a full game. Will Levis Superman himself out of the game. So then we got Mason Rudolph. So I had watched, you know, watching Tennessee, it's like, his first few weeks. I'm not entirely sure it can get worse for the Titans for Levis.

But that was very wrong. That was very, very wrong. Mason Rudolph came in. He threw the ball 17 times. He had 85 passing yards. So it was any receiver on either side of these teams just had no chance at all. People obviously are upset about Calvin Ridley or Jaylon Lott. It's like you cannot blame players who these backup quarterbacks, they really. They really aren't NFL caliber. I mean, you tweeted something about why can't backup quarterbacks run an NFL offense. And I mean, we have said in recent weeks, we don't even have enough starters that can run an NFL offense. So Mason Rudolph and Tyler Huntley, after two weeks with Miami, wasn't going to get the job done. And Mike McDaniel came out and he was like, I'm going to paraphrase his thoughts from the game. It was basically,

Oh, that didn't look like it looked in practice. It was basically like we thought, we thought we had it figured out in practice and it looked nothing like it. But go on. Yeah, I will tell you what, man, LaFleur did a heck of a job putting Willis, I'm sorry, Malik Willis as a starter. And, you know, designing an offense to get the job done. McDonald's over here. He's, I mean, I don't know if Tua is the greatest, if Tua is the greatest quarterback of all time. But what you have seen is that without him, there is an ineptitude that ruins everybody for fantasy. I don't blame, like I know, I think Andy, you'll very much disagree with me, but I don't blame anyone. And I think I would be willing if I had any other good options to take even Tyree Kill and bench him.

while this is the quarterback play. If you're talking about a guy who can't get to 100 total yards in a game, that is now, you know, slice it up. Distribute that across. You're talking about if a quarterback can get to 100 passing yards and you have to distribute that. Right. I mean, what? You weren't talking about Tyreek not getting to 100. Oh gosh. No, he would never get to 100 with this kind of quarterback play. I mean, Tyreek was three for 19. Jalen, uh, Waddle. Yeah, Waddle was four for 36. Yeah, I mean, there was just nothing of value. Right, the very beginning of the game. There was a really solid mid-range completion to Waddle. And it was, oh, hey, maybe we're going to be okay. We knew that the Tyree game was going to be a challenge no matter of the quarterback because of Lageria Sneed in the matchup. We knew that the Titans, about four seconds into the game, could have won three to nothing, had they just run the football the entire game. So this particular game.

You kind of, you wish you hadn't watched it. It didn't perform for fantasy outside of Pollard, but I don't want to leave Ridley there just in the sense that we're four weeks in. Levis got knocked out of this game. Levis has not been good. Callahan came out and said, he's our guy. He's going to be the starter. Levis? Yeah. He's already come out and definitive. Well, because the way they won this game was not making a mistake on offense, which. They prove they could do, right? Like, don't make a mistake. Mason Rudolph, just don't make a mistake. And you're going to win the ballgame against the dolphins. That's not going to work. But you're going into a buy week now. So you've got four weeks of Calvin Ridley, one exceptional week, three disappointing weeks. I'm just curious, like, you can bring up all the names, Waddle Hill, and then Ridley in particular. Those three fantasy assets, how do you view them over the next six weeks?

The next six. Because a bet on Ridley, a bet that I made was a bet on Levis and games that they need to throw the football and throwing for more than 100 yards. Yeah, and I do believe personally that Levis can do that when he comes back from the buy. It's Indy, Buffalo, Detroit. Those are absolutely fine matchups to throw the ball against. So I, you know, I'm fine with Ridley. Obviously, I'm not going to drop him heading into the buy. This is, though, the first week that I know my League of Record team, I am struggling like crazy with buy weeks and injuries just to roster enough humans to start. Yeah, you are already destroyed and then you're losing David Montgomery to buy. And Ladd-McConkie. So, I mean, I was starting Ladd-McConkie people every week. Yeah, me and Jayr. It's a good thing we're talking about waivers. Yeah, it's an important show today. How about the other football game that was.

Well, hold on, hold on. Okay, Jay, you threw out. You wouldn't blame people for benching. Tyree Kill. Let me just pull up the Miami schedule real quick. So next week is the, oh gosh, it's on the road against the Patriots. Kyle has said the Patriots are one-point favorites. The line has opened at 35 and a half. That's the over-under. That is Blarf. What about? What about Devon A. Chan? Oh, yeah, we got deleted too. The Miami Dolphins leading Russia in attempts. Right. But not in yards. Yeah, I mean. Dead last on his team. So he is, because he is an undersized back, this is the reason I was madly in love with A. Chan last year and this year is because he fits this scheme so perfect. They're able to create space with that zone running scheme. And when you give that guy a little bit of space, it's lights out.

But in this world where there is no threat down the field, there is no, the whole defense is at the line of scrimmage. There's no lane for him. So like you saw Jalen Wright not be good, but have a little bit more success. The rookie come in because he can try to like just power through a couple tackles. Devon A. Chan is an amazing talent and he can outrun anyone on the field, but he can't run over people or through people. And when there's three guys in front of them at all times, it's very, very difficult. You have, what, three targets? That's not enough for him. So he is another guy. You just got to change expectations until you get the quarterback back. Which we do. We had a report yesterday that Tua is currently symptom-free, appears to be on track to return to the field as soon as week eight. Now, again, that is currently. This is concussion stuff. We've had players be symptom-free.

They go to a practice and all of a sudden the symptoms are right back and magnified. So it's at least good news right now. They have a week six by week. And then Indianapolis, Arizona after the break. Oh, man. It's brutal. So that was game one, game two, 4229. Way better. Highest scoring game of the year. The lions and the Seahawks, man. They just, they give us good stuff. Gino Smith threw the ball 56 times. Jared Goff threw the ball 18 times and completed 18 passes breaking the NFL record. Unbelievable. So he was perfect. And I don't know if you saw Dan Campbell. And he caught a touch to him. Dan Campbell gave the game ball to two other players. And before he realized later on that Jared Goff was perfect in the game and said he felt bad about it. I mean, 18 passes. Who can't complete 18 in a row? You know what the record was before though? It was 10 for 10 by Kurt Warner. So 18. Oh, to finish a game.

for an entire game. Yeah. To finish a game perfect. Gibbs, Montgomery, Jameson Williams, Laporta, Ammon Ross St. Brown, even Tim Patrick getting in on the action. Fireball Jones himself. So great game by all Lions offensive weapons. They were pretty unstoppable. And then Gino Smith, almost 400 passing yards. Kenneth Bone Walker. Yes. Ken Walker, three touchdowns, 80 yards on the ground and on just 12 carries. It was. So fantastic to watch. I feel for many out there. Look, I had Kenneth Walker on my bench too. Coming off of that injury, going into Monday night one, I don't even know for sure that he's going to play, despite reports, weird things are happening this year. So, look, I really do stand by the, I think the right thing to do was try to get your other option in there.

If you held out. The lions are the number one defense against running back. So this was like, I just don't, it's hard to get Kenneth Walker in there. But this is such incredible news. If you have Walker and you're like, oh, he was on my bench. No, man. Celebrate. The dude came out healthy. The guy looked. Oh my gosh. Unbelievably great. Caught four passes. His double, I don't even know what to call the double flip. The double flip. The double flip. He's like. Full-on looked like wrestling moves. He straight up somersaulted over a guy. A full summer salt to Lucio Libre. It was incredible. And he is, he is without a doubt. So he is infinitely better than Zach Charbonnet. I mean, when you see these guys, there's no doubt who needs to be on the field. Every time that Charbonnet is there and Charbonnet is a fine NFL player. I actually thought Charbonnet looked great last night. I agree. He's a fine NFL player. Charbonnet.

He picks up blitzes. He's a great pass catcher. He's a fine NFL player. But when you watch Charbonnet run, and then you watch Walker run, you go, oh, okay, that guy gets to the edge. That guy breaks these tackles. Walker's so good. Last week was the career worst game by James Connor for the Cardinals against this Detroit defensive front. And then Walker goes 12 for 80 with three touchdowns. I thought he was going to get a fourth. It was super impressive. And everybody was celebrating in that game, unless, of course, you benched Walker, which was understandable. And now you should be happy that, one, didn't get hurt. Yeah. Right? That was the risk, too. An oblique injury, re-injury opportunity didn't happen. And the team looks good. And the game was fun. And everybody celebrated. And all the wide receivers were absolutely fine. I mean, Lockett was, you know, five for 61. That's okay on nine targets. JSN only 51 yards, but he had eight receptions.

And 12 targets, very, very involved. And D.K. Metcalf has looked like, you know. If you have to throw it 56 times in the future, that's going to be, that's going to be delicious. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. All right. The Will Levis injury was an AC joint sprain and Bill, Brian Callahan, not Bill. Brian. I said Levis will be the starter when he's healthy. Shane Steichen said the team is not considering. placing Jonathan Taylor on energy reserve with the ankle injury. If you hear Jonathan Taylor an ankle in the same sentence, you start to get paranoid. Yeah, PTSD from years gone by where he struggled with this before. And it was like if he played, he re-injured himself. He didn't play a lot of games. It was originally reported high ankle sprain. Right. Minor. Mild. Or mild. Sorry. Mild high ankle. This. Not a spicy one. Not Caliente. No.

We were going for the same busted joke. Busted. Christian McCaffrey, did you guys talk about this yesterday? We just know. This broke after the show. The report that came out that got everybody really flustered was the fact that he's got Achilles tendinitis in both legs. Kyle Shanan basically said it started in one. He started compensating. Got it in both. It's mostly been one that's bothering him. I've had this injury and I've had it do this exact thing before. where you compensate for it and then you get Achilles and I is in the other leg. So I've gone through. Did you go to Germany? I did not go to Germany. You should have. It was not really an option for me at the time. I think it was more of an Advil situation. You went? I went to Walgreens, not the pharmacy. Walgreens, not Frankfurt. This is, even though it's new information for us, it's not anything new or different. It's not like now.

They're like, oh my gosh, now it's in the second leg and it wasn't. It's spreading. It's contagious. Yeah, who else of the team has it now? Oh, my gosh. Yeah, don't run by any other running backs. Jordan Mason stay away. So look, we're waiting on Christian McCaffrey. Good news. We've been waiting all season. He's been a wasted pick. If you are like Al Borland over there that spent the high drive capital on Jordan Mason, you are getting. You're living the good life. Yeah, you're living. You're living life. And to Mike's credit, unfortunately. always unfortunately but mike like i tried to i have christian mcalfrey you had him in dynasty i tried to go trade for jordan mason and you sent i thought some you said like the beginning ones were like eh i don't need to do this but then there was a truly caliente yeah i said like i don't remember what it was it was a one oh yeah i said it was a first round rookie pick

You offered a first. You did. And I turned it down. Wow. And you know what? This was pre-great. No, this was after, I mean, this was like right after week one. Oh, okay. Things had not escalated to where they are now, but it was like both of us are making a bet. And he was betting a pick. I bet that, oh, I'm going to keep Jordan Mason. I'm going to take this guy and see if I can get another championship. That's what I was going to point out. Is your mindset around it was that's more than a fair trade. Yes.

But if McAfrey doesn't come back anytime soon, Mason is a lottery ticket that gives me a chance to win, and that was the choice you made, and I hate you. David Najoku, expected to practice this week. This is very important for one of the league's worst offenses. And for the Tennessee football's worst position. Tank Dell, Joe Mixon, both considered day-to-day. Tank Dell expected to be back. I think Joe Mixon will be back too. He was practicing. I was very, very, I was watching this closely. And so I watched the practice videos. He seemed very jovial and happy. They kept him out one more week. They need him back badly. We have Bijon Robinson limited with a hamstring injury. That's not good. It's not, but this is, these are estimated reports because they are the Thursday night matchup. So we get the Monday and Tuesday, they'll say, well, we're guessing.

Remember I told you my son accidentally drafted Brian Robinson instead of Bijon with the fourth pick in the draft? How's that going? Great. It's going great. Brian Robinson has been so much better than Bijon. Can you imagine that? Looks like a genius. Brian Robinson is currently the running back 11 with 66.1 fantasy points. Bejon running back 20. with 54.9. What a world. So, and it's a Thursday game. So if Bejohn was limited in actual practice, that would change things for Tyler Algier and Thursday night's matchup. And for Bejohn, who Bejohn and Breece Hall, who were kind of the unanimous top two picks behind McCaffrey, you're over, not O for three, but you're not happy. No, Brie's, I mean, Breece has been underwhelming. Let me go. This week was, this past week was terrible, but.

RB 15 or 16 points, 21, 16 points. Breece has been okay. Having, having had him in both my main leagues, I was thrilled with Bruce coming into this last week. I never felt bad. Now, obviously, this last week stunk. But I mean, we talked about it last week on the show before the game. About just Braylon Allen? Just about Breece's performances so far and Braylon Allen and Bejohn's performances so far, neither really bringing. super top end like not league winner numbers you know like you're happy because running packs you're happy but um it's been weird yeah I mean right now I'm happier with David Montgomery right that's a perfect way to put it yeah Alexander Madison Antonio Pierce says he deserves more reps and he'll get them as Amir White has been yeah do you drop him now because I have a couple leagues where with by weeks I need to put like a body on my team like Justice Hill

Do you drop him for Justice Hill? I don't know if you can drop a guy who scored three fantasy points, five fantasy points, three fantasy points, three fantasy points. You might want to hold on to that a little longer. And that was while he was the main starter. It's a weird world where you're dropping a starting running back. The advice for that is almost never. It's simply just bench him, see if the situation turns around. But now he's not a started. But I, yeah, I mean, he might. This was like dropping Miles Sanders last year. Yeah, exactly. That's fair. 13 opportunities, 15 opportunities, 18 opportunities this last week. He had 18? He had 18 opportunities scored three fantasy points. What? Yeah. Yeah, this isn't not working. Jonathan Gannon said Tray McBride is in concussion protocol, but looking good. Okay. And then we found out that Nick Chubb's going to be practicing. They opened the window to bring him back. This is, I mean, this is interesting.

It is. I would expect him to be using the 21 day practice window. I don't think this is some guys when they get activated, it's like they're ready, they're healed up. From what I've seen, the medical doctors that I follow, I think it's kind of that week seven expectation, but we'll keep monitoring the news for you. And then Jonathan Brooks's practice window to return has not been opened yet, so we're not expecting them back quite. Nope. Quite yet. And then there you go. So that was today's news and notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. We'll take a break. And it is waiver day. So we're going to bring those names to you shortly. All right. The buy weeks are here. We've got Lions, Titans, Eagles, and Chargers on buy. So it's time to jump into the waiver wire. To the waiver wire presented by Amazon Business.

All right. So the aforementioned David Montgomery, Jason, you don't get them this week. No, no Jemir Gibbs. We were just talking before the show. Those two guys are. They've been unbelievable. RB 7 and 8, Gibbs and Montgomery, and consistent every week. Every single week, both those guys have 15 points. That's just what they do. It's really nice. But not this week. They'll have zero this week. I think. That is correct. I mean, a lot of... No Seguan. Between the Eagles and the Lions, there are a lot of fantasy assets that you have been relying on that are not there. So big, big waiver week. So let's start with those running back pickups. Kareem Hunt? Here we are. You seem to be what the remainder of this year is going to be. And I know that we could have different opinions on whether Clyde comes back to impact it. But my gut right now...

is this going to be mostly Kareem Hunt. That's how I feel as well. I'm shocked when I saw that he is only rostered in 37% of leagues. Obviously, I made the bet last week. We had the hysterical bet last week, Andy, or the trade of Carson Steele and Zach Sharpenet, both of us betting on who's going to disappear first. That was holding up the back to the future photo and both guys disappear from the photo frame after the trade is over with. Yeah, so that was irrelevant. Thanks for the pick swap. Yeah, but Kareem Hunt, I think is a very, very, very valuable pickup. We don't know how long it's going to be until Pacheco is back. It's not the four weeks. It could be the whole season. Like I would not. Oh, that's the bat. I'm going on whole season. Yeah. And so Kareem Hunt from here on out is a guy that I know he has lost it and he's not his former self. I'm not saying he's going to be a top five fantasy option like his rookie season.

But, you know, last year, this is a guy who, when he lost it and looked slow, he had nine rushing touchdowns last year for the Cleveland Browns. And so I do think touchdowns will be there. The passing work will be there. The opportunities to touch the ball for the Kansas City Chiefs is going to be hot and heavy. So to me, if he is on your waivers, he's my number one pickup of the week across all positions. What does that quantify, Mike, as? Like, what would you spend Fabwise on Kareem Hunt and? The fact that they lost for She-Rice, their past catchers are limited, the fact that Cream Hunt can catch the ball well, and he ran for 4.9 to carry in week one for him, his week one. What would you spend up on Cream Hunt if you needed a running back? If you need a running back, I mean, Cream Hunt is probably a 30-plus percent type of a player. I'm not as convinced as you guys. I think Clyde could be a huge problem. But, I mean, look, Cream Hunt still ranked really high for me.

I'm going to be aggressive trying to get him, just saying I'm not as, I'm not as convinced it will just, it'll be Kareem Hunt as, like the game started. It was Carson Steele. He was the starter and he fumbled on his first carry. It's hard to not think that that was a part of the transition to Kareem that week. Clyde is going to come off the NFI list this week. Is there a chance that this situation is just nasty? Yes. And more fab will get spent and wasted? There is definitely the chance for that. You know, Clyde comes in and maybe Carson Steele gets a second chance and it's a three-headed timeshare. That is a... And Somaget, Permanagh was still on the field for 40% of the snaps for the Chiefs. Yeah, I mean, all of that is a possibility. Obviously, you have to call your shot. And if you feel like it's a really high possibility that, you know, Clyde comes in and steals a bunch of work,

then don't overspend on Cream Hunt. I am fairly confident that Kareem Hunt, who knows this system while it was played successfully with Mahomes in the past, this is a team that needs something to happen with, especially with Rushie Rice going down. I'm going to think that they're going to lean on Hunt and try to see if he's still got it. Well, let me ask you how that compares to your confidence in this next player who is on pace for 68 receptions at the running back position. for almost 700 receiving yards, who's averaging 5.4 an attempt and had mostly been completely ignored to the point where he is sitting on waiver wires in the majority of leagues. Justice Hill. He's on pace for 700 plus receiving yards. I'm not super thrilled about Justice Hill. I mean, week one was... Wow.

I'm not either. I mean, he scored six fantasy points two weeks ago, four fantasy points weeks before that. I mean, when you look at the whole season numbers and you average them the way that you were talking about, it looked good because this last week, he had 78 receiving yards and six receptions, but that was also a game, you know, a primetime game against Buffalo, this high score game and at home. I don't know that he's going to be someone you can rely on weekend and week out for sustenance. Sausiness is not found on the waiver wire at running back, but opportunity is. And this is the team that his snap count was super reduced because of the blowout. And he still put up those numbers. I think Justice Hill is the kind of player where instead of betting on a week or two, if you need a flex option, an emergency start, somebody at running back to, you know, you're not betting on one week. I think Justice Hill, they love him. He's going to be involved. And you're still going to have opportunities. It's not going to be.