Week 5 Waivers & Streamers + THE Mark Andrews Discussion - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/1

a monstrous receiving line and games where he has nothing. Like it's just whatever the game takes. And I believe that. I think that there will be games where Andrews has 86 yards and six receptions and a touchdown. But it's not going to be what you hoped that he would be, which is a reliable asset. It's not. And so would I drop Mark Andrews for the names for Juan, you know, Johnson? No, I personally wouldn't. I wouldn't go that. But that means, but just to be clear, you're not starting Mark Andrews after two goosees. That means you'd have to roster two tight ends. I just want to make sure that that's out. No, I am saying I would, I would start Mark. Like when I'm looking at the waiver wire list of options, like Zach Ertz, would I start Mark Andrews or Zach Ertz? Would I drop Mark Andrews for Zach Ertz? I wouldn't. And will Zacherts score more? Maybe he did this last week, but what did he score more? Three points?

Zackertz, you know, gets 33 yards and two receptions or something like that there's still no upside there. Mark Andrews has a built-in upside, I believe, just based on talent and history and all that, not the utilization we want. But that's the point is like, as a Mark Andrews manager, I'm living this out and I'm looking at the options and going, who would I literally start over him? And there's plenty of, there's plenty of wide receivers, but they're rostered. They're on other people's rosters. There's just not a... You mean tight-ins? Yes. There's just not a bunch of guys out on the waiver wire that I would be willing to start over Andrews. I can't imagine putting a zero into my lineup for three straight weeks. I can't imagine doing that. And that's a high probability. There's a high probability you get zero for Mark Andrews right now. So... That's the truth.

Yeah, if you want to look at match up. I don't know what that means if you roster two tight ends because I agree maybe something changes down the line, but I cannot fathom recommending me personally. I don't blame you. I'd much rather try Tucker Kraft out for a week without Christian Watson. I'd much rather play Juan Johnson without Tayson Hill. I'd much rather play Zach Kurtz and hope for a touchdown because I know he's getting targets on the week personally. Tucker Kraft, like I have Mark Andrews in League of Record. Tucker craft is a name I would consider. Joanne Johnson's pretty close. Let me see what Zachress has done in totality. So he did have a game of 60 yards in week two. Ah, dude. I'm, I think I'm more on Jason's side of trying to look at the waiver wire of, like what is actual upside of the guys who are available. Can they catch a touchdown? Okay. Mark Andrews can too.

Is anyone on the waiver wire actually going to get volume? That's what I care about. And of these guys, it has zero catches for two weeks. I know. This upside that we're talking about is not based on this season. The upside that we're talking about. Week two, what was week two, it was okay. He was four for 51 and week two. Yeah. But, but it's really based on the past seasons, which also didn't really include Isaiah likely. So those two compounding factors. I don't think it's impossible for him to have a game here there. I just can't imagine telling somebody, I mean, this is the number one drop candidate in the entire fantasy football world. If you want to keep them on your bench, I mean, look, if you want to play him, Jason says he's going to play him. I just think it's a really, really tough call because you're risking zero. And guess what? Five is a lot more than zero when you need something at the tight end position. Please don't. Please don't hear what I'm not saying. Okay.

I don't want to start Mark Andrews. This isn't me banging the table saying like, oh, I'm so excited. I get to start Mark Andrews. I'm simply saying of the waiver wire fodder options, craft, okay, with the injury to Watson and his utilization, nine targets last week, granted they had to throw like crazy to catch up. But, okay, you could take that and you can, I would bench Andrews. But yeah, I mean, I'm, I am still going to keep starting him over that level of just waiver wire fodder. And there's other names that are sitting on the waiver wire. I mean, Pat Fryermuth is on a lot of waiver wires. Tyler Conklin is on a lot of waiver wires. Hunter Henry on a lot of waiver wires. Fryer Muth. All three of those guys are. I'll give you Muth. Yeah, I would do the Mute for sure. I mean, heck, Johnny Munt. I believe the, I believe the Mute is the only tight end who's had four receptions in each of the.

first four weeks of the season. Yeah, he's sitting on our League of Record waiver wire. Yeah, that one dropping. I mean, I dropped Mark Andrews for Pat Faramuth quickly. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's very, very difficult. If you're in a 10 team, if you're in a 10 teamer, I'm really not trying, I'm not trying to be argumentative. I'm trying to, I'm trying to examine the psychology that exists here for all of us, which is that a 29 year old, all pro, Hall of Fame contending. or pathway. He was on the path. When that player goes from maybe the best in the game, production-wise, to maybe the worst in four games to start the year, this is not something we're used to. This is not something that anybody understands. This is not something that has been shown in the film. I came in in week one and told you about the film. The film is backed up by the numbers.

The numbers say he was separating better than every tight-in in football. So now you have the film and the numbers. And you saw that week too. And the head coach saying he's playing great football. So you have all of those things telling you that Mark Andrews is the same player. But we've also gone through this. I mean, look at last year, David Najoku went from a five-year bust to the best tight-in in football over the back half of the year. Did David and Joku become a, like, take steroids halfway through the year and become a different athlete? He's been the same guy.

Evan Ingram, bused for five years, became a star. It's opportunity for tight-ins more than any other position. You can be a superstar athlete. I mean, John Johnson was the number one tight-in. He can go to nothing. And that's what's happening to Mark Andrews. This is not the retirement ceremony. He's probably going to get another contract in the NFL. Oh, for sure. That's what's wild about the situation. And so I'm not trying to argue. I'm trying to just speak from the other side of like, if you started double zeros. I can't imagine doing it again. I get it. But does it hurt more to not do it? And then it happens? I mean, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, personally, based on this conversation of the waiver wire fodder, that's why I would not be dropping them. If you want a roster two, you can roster two. For a week, you know. Yeah, I mean, it's one of those things where. If he goosees again, will you do it? If he goose is a triple goose. A triple goose is like, triple goose you got to go. But I mean, literally, literally, you know.

You know, before the Gooses, he had five targets and over 50 yards and was involved. And this is not a guy who looks bad on film. And if you look at his career, you look at his career. He has averaged. Here's the, you know, last year per game basis, he averaged 11.3 fantasy points. 10.3 fantasy points a year prior. He's double digit fantasy point average in game started. That's just. He hasn't disappeared and he hasn't changed who he is. I get the opportunity. The snaps are way down. Yes. They're way down. The snaps are way. 33% two weeks ago, 46% last week. And another factor, which you could say, well, why wasn't he part of the scoring at the beginning? But at halftime against the Buffalo Bills, it was 21 to 3. At halftime against the Dallas Cowboys, it was 21 to 6. And like,

Even when Mark Andrews was doing everything, this was a run heavy team. Yep. And that's the philosophy of it. But if you're up 21 to 3 or 21 to 6, they're not opening it up. No, no, they won't need to. So again, the question of how was he not part of it? Well, I guess the bills was because Derek Henry had a whatever 80 plus yard rushing touchdown. So it's all this. popery of just like this nasty. It's a poopery. It's a, you can go with it. Yeah, it's a poopery. It's a nasty stew that I don't know what's going on here. I don't like poopery and stew being in the same thought process. That's a real falcon situation. Well, I don't like playing Mark Anders. Yeah. It's a real falcon. I do want to throw one other name out there. Oh, Falcon? You didn't take off halfway through, huh? That's good.

Yeah, did you, did you, did you, I don't know if you're aware. Oh, he did leave. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He had to take off and, and mid-show dump. Are you, get your bowels checked. We're just talking about this now? Oh, I mean. Just like out in the open. Well, did it. When one of your, when one of the cast of characters from Deucer's Alley is all of a sudden gone halfway through the show. You got to draw attention to it. It's incredible because we named Deucer's Alley well before he was employed by this company. Yeah. And he took it to heart. He is. We hired the right person. It's not literal. It's short for producer. Did you not know that? Okay. You don't have to eat X-Lax for breakfast. No.

Sorry, what was the other name you're going to mention? The last name, he's available in 25% of leagues. If you don't have an IR spot in your league, Dave and Najoku might just be sitting out there on waivers. And you just heard the conversation we had. So if he's out there. What's old Hawkins sitting at? What's his roster presented? He's still a couple weeks away from coming back. But they're expecting Najoku to practice this week. So at least just check. All right. Defensively, look at the Vikings against the Jets. They're heavily rostered, though, because they've been awesome. Look at the Seahawks defense against the Giants this week. Look at Denver. The Broncos. Oh, I picked that up a week ahead, and I'm happy because I don't think Adams is playing. And that Vegas offense.

18 carries, three points? Is that what Zimmer White's doing? The real low roster defenses are the Denver Broncos, which that's fabulous. And then the New England Patriots at 3% gets in play, the Miami Dolphins. And then the Raiders on the other side of the Denver matchup. Denver won with 60 passing yards last week. So today's waiver wire brought to you by Amazon business. Everyone could use more time. Thankfully, Amazon business. Offers smart business buying solutions so you can spend. More time growing your business and less time doing the admin. I can see why they call it smart. Learn more at Amazonbusiness.com. Full stream ahead. All right. Well, we had the Mark Andrews conversation. How does it feel after that? How do you feel that we had it? I mean, it's out there. I feel like I need to shower. Yeah. Yeah, well, that's the stew. All right.

My stream of the week, I'm doing it, gentlemen, and I'm doing it. I'm doing it because the Jacksonville Jaguars are the worst team in fantasy through four weeks. They give up an extra 6.5 points to opposing quarterbacks. And I'm going with the 39.7-year-old Joe Flacco, who is eight days younger than Anthony Richardson's mother. I saw that. So Joe Flacco, if he gets to start, I'm putting him right in. And frankly, if Richardson gets to start, I'm putting him right in against Jacksonville, which is, you know, not something I've said for four weeks. So Joe Flacco is the stream of the week. I'll jump in because my quarterback streamer is on the other side. The Jaguars have been bad against quarterbacks. The Indianapolis Colts have been terrible against quarterbacks as well. Four points above expectation. It's Trevor Lawrence. He is not.

QB that I love or want to be rostering very much. But in this particular matchup against the Colts, I think he's going to come through with a game that is very streamable. And for my streamer, I'm going to go with a guy who right now is the quarterback six on the season. And if you haven't, you might have seen last night that this guy is playing ball, but he looks great. Gino Smith has been very, very, very good. We talked about how long it's been since Patrick Mahomes has had a 21 point fantasy game. Gino did it last night. Three of his four weeks, he's been top ten in fantasy. He's got three elite pass catching options and two elite pass catching running backs. And an offensive system now that is not led by Shane Waldron. The grub system, I mean, he's on pace for over 5,000 passing yards. The game against the New York Giants, they're a middle of the pack defense. And the best part is his touchdown rate is kind of lagging behind right now.

We saw a couple years ago him throw plenty of touchdowns. We know he can do it. Yeah, two and a half percent right now for Gino. That's, that's abnormal. That will catch up. Yeah. So I think he's a good stream this week. You dropping Patrick Mahomes for him? Who just lost Rashi Rice? I mean, I'm going to bring up the, will you drop Pat question every week? Yeah, Patrick Mahomes is a streaming candidate, which means if you are a streaming quarterback. You are someone that you pick up for matchups and you drop them to the waiver. Except for if you drop him, he'll get picked up and kept for the whole year. 100%, which is why. And we've said this with other people. Andrews probably can't do it anymore. But a couple weeks ago when there was concern, you trade these guys. And we brought up trading Patrick Mahomes before the Rushie Rice injury. And hopefully you got it done. But try to get it done. All right. Yeah, I wouldn't drop him if I had them, to be honest. I would just pick up somebody else to play.

And then try to play them on a matchup you like. I have him. I've got my homes in one league and I have tried to trade him for weeks. Nobody, nobody's biting? No. You're looking for my homes. I know. I want that value. I want someone to fall in love with the name. All right. Tomorrow we've got hungry for more of the TNF preview. We got your mailbag questions on the show tomorrow. We're going to get you right and ready to go for week five. And then Thursday and Friday starts of the week. We got the matchups and then we got the wheel of shame again. Oh.

Huh. Huh. I love that segment. Yeah. So far, three weeks. I love it. All I know is Brandon Ayuk and my tight end couldn't get me eight combined full PPR points. Oh, it's so great. And a reminder, before I close things out, go to join thefoot.com, become a supporter of the show, get access to premium content, including, you know, the streamfinder tool, the ultimate dashboard where you get a lineup optimizer, you get a custom waiver wire list, which is great for today. You get an extra episode of the show every week and probably like 20 more things, right? Papa Josh over there in the, let's give him one more look. He looks so happy in the Falcons gear. Papa Josh, remind me, who is your favorite NFL team? The Saints. Oh, come on now. What was that again? I didn't hear you. Oh, the dirty birds, sorry. All right. Yeah, I'll do it. He won't even say the name. No, he won't. But they made him say the name, didn't they? That'll do it for today's show. Thanks for joining us. Goodbye. Goodbye.

for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast join our fantasy football community on join the foot.com and follow us on Twitter at the ffballers.