Week 8 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, Seeing Ghosts

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the podcast, the fantasy footballers podcast. That is, I am your host, back by popular demand. The people were like, where's cool, Andy? By popular demand, I mean Andy's white blood cells and antibodies. Right. They're very popular. They love me. They want me hosting all the time. You heard him yesterday. He powered through.

And then he needs more power. He's out. Hey, look, I can complete. Need more power. I can completely understand. I was, I was a dead man walking for the first month of the season, especially that first week. I don't know if he caught what I have caught, but it's going around his family. So our thoughts and prayers are with Mr. Holloway and all of the holloway's. Excellence work, Jason. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome to the show.

I am Mike the Fantasy Hitman Wright, joined by, guess what, Jay? Hmm. You're my best friend of the day, buddy. Oh, yes. I love this. That just makes me so happy. Take that, Jay Grizz. Jay Grizz, cardboard bear extraordinary. He's holding it down over there. Tuesday's show, it's Waver Day, our streaming quarterbacks.

Our defense versus offense pick, news and notes, all kinds of fantasy goodness happening today. This is a jam-packed show. And for the first time in the last three weeks, there are quality waiver pickups. It certainly seems that way. I feel like the last couple weeks have just been like, oh, my goodness. Here's who you pick up. Close your eyes. Click a guy at random.

Good luck. But now, now I'm excited to talk about today. Make sure you follow us on the social media's Instagram.com slash fantasy footballers on the IG. I am at FFHipman. Jason's at Jason FFL and Andy is at Andy Holloway. Monday night football, Jason. At least that's, I was told that's what I was watching. That, yeah, this is the pinnacle of the NFL.

The bright lights are on. Are you ready for some football? It's Monday night. One team was ready for some football. The New England Patriots trounced the Jets, 33 to 0. Honestly, the Patriots could have scored however many points they wanted to score last night. I don't. I don't know how they only scored 33 points. Like kudos. Genuine. I'm not even joking. The Jets defense.

played pretty darn well. I mean, what are you going to do when your quarterback is seeing ghosts and giving up five, what do you have like five turnovers? Was it four interceptions and a fumble? It might have been 16 for all I know. Four interceptions, a fumble, and then the botch snap. It was a delight if you had the Patriots defense as it's been all season long. It is.

Yes, congratulations on your many victories. Adam Schefter tweeted out the Patriots have now outscored their opponents by 175 points this season. The second biggest differential through seven games in NFL history. Not just like literally you have to go back to the first season of 1920. When they didn't even know how to play football. Right. And one team was like had the big guy.

And so they won by a ton. Look, the Patriots defense, Mike, I know you. Yes. You had a victory in the league of record that was snatched away. Well, not it was, it was, that was the worst beat I've ever had in fantasy football. And I have lost in the playoffs by a stat correction. I have lost championship matches, but I've never felt angry. Like I've,

Because I had Kerry on Johnson. I had Will Fuller. I had two guys go down in the first quarter. Somehow I was able to get things together. I had Darren Waller. I had the Jaguars. Like I had made some good moves. Still looked like you were going to win. The only way that you weren't going to win is if the Patriots went out there and had like a 23 point night. And they had literally barely enough less than a point.

And then last night, ESPN was fidgeting with their system and their scoring. And some points were taken away. And you won. And then it was taken back away from you. Yeah. So I got to double tilt, which was nice. I don't know if you've ever been real angry, experienced defeat. And then someone comes to you and was like, well, hold on. Hold on. You may. I'm just kidding. Punching the gut. So that really sucked. Let's go fantasy takeaways.

Well, before we finish the fantasy takeaway on the Patriots, on the defense, would you say that the bills are a very good defense? Yes. They are a top 12 fantasy defense right now on the season. They've been very good. Did you know that if you took the bills and what they've done through the course of this season and you doubled it? Uh-huh. And then you added the bills again to make it a triple on fantasy points. That...

is what the Patriots have scored. They have tripled a top 12 very good defense in the bills that is not fair. Okay, moving past. It truly has broken the system and the NFL is to blame with this ridiculous schedule that they have given them. On the New York side of the ball, Sam Darnold was horrific. And I want to hear your takeaway on this, Jason, because while Sam Darnold was terrible, I put the majority of the blame.

on Adam Gase because he did absolutely nothing to help Sam Darnold out. He kept on calling deep plays when Darnold needed someone that he could fire. When the Blitz was coming, Donald needed a hot read. But every time you would look and say, oh, is there a slant that I can fire up? No, he's just running nines and posts down the field. And Adam Gase was not protecting Darnel at all. Well, I mean, I, I mean, there's no secret here.

I don't think either of us have ever thought Adam Gase is a good coach. We call him the B-hole for a reason, and it's because he's a B-hole, and he's not a good coach. That being said, the fantasy outlook for Sam Donald, I know how horrifically bad it was, but I would still be willing to stream him as soon as this coming week and on, because their schedule is unbelievably easy for the foreseeable future. I guess this week I think is Jacksonville.

Now, they're not as great as they were. You know, they're not the Saxonville team with Jalen Ramsey and all of that. But after that especially, it opens up and it becomes like the Patriots schedule has been so far this season. Yeah, I did want to bring up that despite how bad Sam Darnd was and how he has hurt people. I mean, he hurt me through way of the Patriots defense. I saw many box scores where he hurt people. He pulled the Baker Mayfield.

snatching defeat from the hands of victory. But you know what? If Sam Darnold were playing the Atlanta Falcons this week, I would still play Sam Darnold. The Falcons are finally punting. I mean, that's what it looks like. They traded Mosanoo for a two. Matt Ryan has a high ankle spram. We'll talk about this. My point of that is just that as bad as fantasy football can make you feel, you got to move on each week is its own self-contained thing.

You can't just focus on how terrible someone was last week. Levion Bell remains a workhorse. He actually looked pretty good. 15 for 70 with a long of 19. Only one reception, which is... Yeah, that speaks to my point. That's exactly what you're talking about. It's like, where are the Lev Bell dump-offs to overcome the Blitz? Yes, it was outrageous what was happening.

The pass catchers for New York did nothing. However, Robbie Anderson, James and Crowder, I'm trying to get them on my team for this stretch run that the Jets are about to put up. Would you sell Sony Michelle off the back of a three touchdown game? He had 19 carries for only 42 yards. But this is who he is. Right. Would you want to keep what he is or would you look to move him off the back of a big game? I would.

If I need to sell them, I will. I'd prefer to hold on to him. The Patriots schedule gets a little bit tougher coming up here. It becomes a very easy schedule, which is much more difficult than what they've been experiencing. Sure. But during the playoffs, they have a couple particular matchups where Sony Michelle could be a...

Just a playoff week winner. I bring the name up because he is a sell high to me. Okay. He's a guy that he's disappointed as far as, you know, the film, he doesn't look that great. This whole season, he hasn't been busting anything off and hasn't been breaking tackles. Yes, he falls into the goal line and that's great. So he's not a must sell. But Rex Burkhead will be back at some point. So those playoff games you mentioned, is it going to be Sony on the goal line every time? I don't know. Brandon Bolden.

again was the first back, the first drive was like they were on the three yard line or so and they tried to get him in first. So, you know, I think you can capitalize, get something good for him, maybe do a package trade for a better running back. Well, before we talk about the Patriots wide receivers, we should just get into the news because there was news this morning. News and notes from around the league presented my sleeper. ESPN's Adam Schaefter reported early this morning.

The Falcons are sending wide receiver Mohammed Sunu to the New England Patriots in exchange for a second round pick. All right. Now we're back to a bit of a mess for the Patriots wide receivers. Julian Edelman, very safe. But Philip Dorset, who had the nice touchdown, came through with a decent fantasy game. Congratulations, Jason. But he was looking, he was trending up. Jacoby Myers had been trending up.

Josh Gordon is still there, but banged up. Nikiel Harry is coming back. He's supposed to be back in a couple weeks. How do you evaluate this situation? What's your biggest takeaway from them sending a second round pick to get a new? That's a high price. I've got several big takeaways. The first is that I don't know the status of Josh Gordon.

That's my biggest takeaway is that Gordon must be in a bad way. He is either very injured or, and I hate to say it. Oh, no, come on. I'm just saying that crossed my mind. The team knows a fair thought. It's a fair thought. And it might seem outlandish. Like, why would you trade a second for a wide receiver when you've got Josh Gordon? Either he's very injured or he's dealing with some off the field something or just personal issues. We've seen it every year of his career.

Maybe that's a marker for that. That's one takeaway. I'm not really interested in Muhammad Sunu right off the bat. He's got to prove it to me first before I go and say, oh, he's a good wide receiver on a great offense with a great quarterback because this system is not easy to learn. Plenty of good wide receivers have come here and failed, not been able to pick it up, certainly not right away. Another thing it marks to me is on the flip side, right? The Falcons are selling a important piece of their offense for a future pick.

Well, there was already rumors and whispers from the bushes that Sunu was at the end of his time with Atlanta. Either they were going to cut him or trade him. How awesome is it for Muhammad Sunnoot? You literally go from. Yes. Yes. Oh. It's like when I wake up and Andy says, hey, I'm sick. Oh, and then you're like, well, I get to move to the big chair. Yep. I'm the dad. I'm the dad. Now, Calvin Ridley, I think, is a huge. Massive.