Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 8 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Dying in Flames

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to the fantasy footballers podcast. Coming to you from the Playdraft Studios with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in. One of all friends, family, acquaintances, foes. Yes, all the foes. The enemies are welcome at this dinner table. Many, many a foe out there in the fantasy football world.

All of them defeated by my teams this week. I am on a hot streak, gentlemen. You certainly are. If you touch me right now, fantasy points just singe. Like hitting a Mario block. It's... They just... Bling! I have defeated Jason on the back of Paul Richardson in our Dynasty League. I had a bipocalypse situation where I played Matt Beretta and Paul Richardson and then beat him. Those...

Those worked out real well. Yeah. Yeah. I consider it manifold genius. Just incredible genius. Yeah. One of two of us agree. Yeah. I'm so hot right now that my beard fell off. Oh, yeah. Normally I love when people go to YouTube.com slash some fantasy footballers, hit subscribe, turn on your notifications. I highly recommend that you avoid going to YouTube because Andy...

I'm doing a Billy Matt. Foolish. I'm doing a Billy Madison thing. I'm trying to reenroll. No, you honestly look like a bottle of Elmer's glue right now. So pasty. That is so terrible. Oh, man. So you'll either get fantasy points or glue if you give him a hug. I feel the need because I don't disagree with you, which is a terrible reality. But I need to explain one, the shaving.

It's in part due to the costume I'll be wearing on the show tomorrow. Yes. And it originated as I had a mustache, only a mustache, for a Halloween dinner murder mystery party that my wife and I went to last Friday. And I wanted to look very creepy. And I wanted to keep the mustache until today, but was threatened with legal divorce. So I am instead pasty white. And...

That's unfortunate for everybody involved. I'm trying my hardest to grow up back. Yeah. I'm just like sitting in a room. All right. Well, it's been a... Gotta eat some more beef jerky. It's been a hell whole lot more. And maybe see the sun. It's been a heck of a weekend. Terrible weekend. Well, depending on perspective. Well, when I say terrible weekend, for football purposes, I'm speaking of...

I think that the storm that came through on the East Coast really had a huge effect on the games, especially if you look at the quarterbacks. The position as a whole was incredibly down for fantasy points. So I'm just saying, you know, I love when there's high flying games and quarterbacks are on fire and wide receivers and pass catching running backs and everything's flowing. This just wasn't one of those weeks. And, you know,

Some people like the defensive battles. That ain't me. Not fantasy players, generally. And if you weren't playing in the Pacific Northwest, if you weren't playing in that Seattle game and you were a quarterback, I mean, Andy Dalton in four-point leagues is the next highest score if your name's not Sean Watson or Russell Wilson. So if that doesn't explain the situation that Jason just outlined. And Andy Dalton was bad. Those two things are both facts. Yeah.

Okay. Well, we've got a great show. We've got the rewind today. We'll catch you up on all the injury news. We've got stud muffins. We have Raising Cains Rising Stars. We have pooped in the big boy pants. And we're going to get into all of that right now ahead of tomorrow's Halloween episode. There it is. I was waiting for your favorite sound effect of all time. All right. So quick question of the day. Look, to Sean Watson. So.

Before we get into this, we do have to tell the podcast listeners, the YouTubers, Jason did say he would, he was going to die in those flames last week. We had a Viking funeral. Yeah. For Jason. I'm a new man. Pushed him out to see. He's back. He's been cleansed by the flames. He is back. You should have seen this man at halftime. He actually ripped his shirt up. Underneath was a Deshaun Watson jersey. He had been planning this the whole time.

unbeknownst to us. Yeah, this was, number one super fan now. This was a man on fire, uh, and flying into Clayton ravine. This was, he would, he would, he would full Ricky Bobby. He's like, I'm on fire. I'm on fire. And he's just ripping his clothes off. It was, um, well, let's put it this way. We'll talk about him. The break, the brakes went out for Jason. Yeah. Yeah. My, uh, oh, my. We're talking about it right now. Deshawn Watts was 19 for 30 for 40, four, uh,

Where is he rest of season? What is the Deshawn Watson ranking rest of season? Number one. You can't put him anywhere else, but number one. When you go into Seattle and you devastate that defense, which, yes, it's not the Seattle Seahawks defense that were used to, but they've still been playing very, very well. They've been great this year with the exception of.

one single, well, now two games. The rest, they've been playing well. Deshaun Watson, 400, over 50 rushing yards, I mean 67, something that has never been done. And he did it in Seattle. I have to, look, I had reservations about him going up there. I believe the rookie quarterback touchdown record was Peyton Manning with 26. So we can bet that. Yeah.

I thought it was. Deshaun Watson is at 19 touchdowns right now. He's going to smash it. Oh, he's going to destroy. Jason, rest of season. Rest of season, Mike says you can't put him anywhere else but one. Watch me. I'm going to put him probably four or five. I can't put him ahead of Tom Brady. I can't. Or Drew Breeze. I can't. Yeah. So, but he's there. He's definitely top five. He's two for me. He's number two.

Russell Wilson's number one. Oh, for rest of the season. Okay. And I would put Watson at two, and then you'd be looking at Brady. Breeze's fantasy season has been underwhelming. It continued again this week. I think he was 11th before this week, and he was, luckily for me, I sat him for Deshawn Watson. A lot of people sat Deshawn Watson this week for better matchups, and I understand it. Like,

I don't think you beat yourself up too bad over that. I think you will because it's fantasy football, but I don't think you should because, you know. Tom, just to point out, Tom Brady, aside from weeks two and three, has been very underwhelming for what you thought you were getting. Tom Watson is the first player ever with 400 yards passing and 50, he had 50 rushing yards in this game and three touchdowns. I mean, this was an incredible performance by Watson. He looks.

entirely confident does not look intimidated in the most intimidating place in the national football league he's been through the big game played in the national title games he's coming into his own here and he everybody's paying off for him he won me over

in yesterday's game. I mean, I have been someone that's been down on Deshawn Watson from the college tape. Just skeptical. Yeah, skeptical. I mean, you know, it's like, okay, he looks good. He's impressed me. But he had not yet won me over. And I'm speaking here as a fan, not as an analyst. I watched that game and what he was able to do. And I was like, I went from literally, I mean, you, you, everyone in the room here.

was with me when we were watching that game. I hated everything Deshaun Watson was doing. And by the end of that game, I'm number one super fan. I'm madly in love with Deshaun Watson. Would you say he went from skeptical to spectacle? Oh, well, I sure would. He's got two first round wide receivers as well. I mean, this, he is, he has set up to succeed. He still makes some rookie mistakes. But for fantasy purposes, he's my top quarterback. All right. We're going to get into the rewind.

Weekly Rewind. I'm going to start this one off with thoughts and prayers for Zach Miller. News broke this morning. The dislocation, the knee issue that he suffered during the game is very severe. Vascular surgeons been brought in. Adam Schefter reported they're working to save his leg. This is not a career-only threat. This is a life-changing event. And so...

I'm going to leave that there and just say we're thinking and praying for Zach Miller. Jordan Reed left with the hamstring injury, did not return. Well, are you guys surprised about that? Nope. Not surprised, but definitely worried. Hamstrings are something that is very common to reagravate, and he used to, you know, prior to 2015, that was a common issue for him. Yeah, that was his big one. His big bugaboo, I mean, he had the concussion problem, but his hamstrings, when you came, I think it was the second year.

You're like, oh, here we go. Let's get a Jordan Reed breakout. And then he was out for a number of games. It scares me going forward. If you pull it all the way back to preseason talk, this was the landscape for the tight-in position. It was monster impact players with high injury risk. Tyler Eifert, Jordan Reed. Gronkowski. And now, Gronk is there and he's active and he's being a force.

But Jordan Reed has been all but useless unless you got lucky enough to play him last week, which you probably didn't because you were sitting him down. Or Tyler Eifford gone for the year again. And so this was the risk. You signed up for it if you drafted Jordan Reed at this point. Any of us who did, we signed up for that risk. Now you look at Vernon Davis as a very streamable option if Jordan Reed misses time. Yes. Chris Hogan suffered a shoulder injury on the final catch of the game immediately left.

Shoulder MRI today. Brooks, have you heard anything new about Chris Hogan as of right now? No, nothing new. Also, I don't know. This was not really reported, but it was almost a throwaway line during the Patriots by the announcers. They mentioned that Chris Hogan's front teeth had been knocked out. It's like, what? What are you talking about? So I did a little look. In practice, his two front teeth were knocked out. That's the Patriots, the practice is hard. That's not, yeah, that's hockey stuff right there. That's ridiculous. So he has two fake teeth. There you go.

Cole Beasley. Concussion. Duke Johnson was evaluated for a head injury reportedly already been cleared. This is big news. Jay Glazer reporting, Andrew Luck is still in pain and seeking further opinions as to why. This is not good. If you remember, Jim Ursaid before the season said, oh, Andrew Luck's going to be ready for the season. Now it seems very unlikely he will play at all. And I'm going to be honest with. What do they call that the kind of pain, even if it didn't exist? Phantom pain. Phantom pain? Yeah.