Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 8 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Dying in Flames

barely any rushing yardage. And say what you will. You can, you know, you can kind of attribute that to the running success. But if you can, then you have to, you know, you have to say that it's possible for that to happen again. I mean, it's. So let me just interject real quick. I realize they've got a great running game and it could happen. But this game was a torrential downpour. The, the winds were over 15 miles an hour. The game was soaked. It was not good.

throwing conditions. You've got a guy in Dak Prescott who's gone from 34 pass attempts a game to 22 in this game. This was a... He managed the game. Yeah, he was just a game manager. He wasn't asked to do much. I believe that if the weather was fine there, you would have seen, you know, what Vegas was expecting to be a high scoring game where he's more near his average. I write this one off. I agree that any game, you know, you can have...

It's probably not we're talking about. You're not going to binge deck Prescott. Right. And James Winston, Mike, you, who you were in on him this week. Yes. He's, well, I was in on the yardage is what I was, if you're referring to that from last week's shows, is that he has been getting it done through the air. Not necessarily great for fantasy, but this was two picks, one fumble, no touchdowns, two 10. And third week.

Well, I guess he was injured then, but he had six fantasy points. It was a really bad performance. When James poops the big boy pants, it is. It's a big one? It's a smelly one. Yeah. And that's what happened. Drew Breeze, I think, is worth mentioning here because he was at home. Really? Yeah, I do. Okay. Zero touchdowns for Drew Breeze. I told you he's, I don't know if he's worth mentioning in the.

elite of the elite he was brought up earlier in that context this week at home against chicago good defense he had no touchdowns he had 299 yards but yeah say 23 for 28 for 300 yards is the the touchdowns just weren't but he was 11th in the league before this week now he put up a sub 20 point performance i just think that there have been a lot like he has no he has one game of more than two touchdowns the entire year okay

He's coming off a Green Bay game that looked like a great matchup. He only had one touchdown. I'm just wondering if his weapons losing Brandon Cook seems to have had an effect on the big play, which has had an effect on Drew Brees being the top five guy. Do you have the consistency charts up by chance, Jay?

I don't have them up. No, I was looking up. I wanted to see because he had had that buy week in there. I wanted to see what the difference is between, you know, him being the number 11 before this week. On a per game basis, he was the number eight. So it still kind of feeds into your point. He has not been one of those top three type of performers so far. I, you know, I'm still in on Drew Brees. Nothing I've watched on film makes me think that he's any less dominant than he's been the last.

six or seven years, the one thing that would, you know, that you could see that would make a difference for him being not in that top three is what you brought up, Andy, the weapons. He has not really had Willie Sneed this season. Michael Thomas has been dealing with an injury and hasn't looked especially special. Kobe Fleener has disappeared. You know, so someone is going to need to step up more than Brandon Coleman for him to regain the top three.

I am still super happy with Drew Breeze. I would start him every week. I think he will finish the year as a top six quarterback. Okay. Running backs. We talked about J. Ajai already. We just need to highlight the point that J. J. J. J. Jai had a 21-yard run, and he finished for 13 and 23 rushing yards. Dude. J. J. J. J. I could. Adam Gase is the type. 12.

For two. 12 for two. If JJ comes out next game and gets five carries, count me as someone that will not be surprised. Adam Gase has done a lot of blaming. Yeah. And I think a lot of that blaming is directed toward Jhajai, who's missed pretty much every practice this year. So they're the worst offense in the league. Adam Gase takes a lot of pride in his offense, but he didn't take a lot of responsibility. I find that to be.

Uh, not coach worthy. Yeah, not great. I mean, I think you need to take responsibility as a coach along with your players, not just point fingers. Devonta Freeman, he's banged up. Yeah, he, he had to exit the game for a bit here in 12 for 41, one for 20. And once again, if, if you watch this game, New York, Jason talked about the weather in the Washington game. The New York weather was, it was horrifically bad. Matt Ryan.

fumbled four snaps. That's how bad the, the rain was coming down. So this is a, honestly to me, this is just a throw it away. Throw it away. Don't worry about Freeman. And then Mike, that first and goal from the one. Oh, yeah. And then then what Sarkeesians added again with, uh, with DeVant to Freeman, one of the best goal line backs in the league, first of the goal on the one and they'd run a play action. It worked to Austin Hooper, but not like a, uh,

where he's just wide open. It was Matt Ryan happened to buy some time in Austin, then Austin Hooper was open. You got to play action sometimes to that guy, bite him in, bite the defense in. I don't blame him there. And they scored a touchdown. But like I said, it wasn't a clean play. It was a he just, it happened to work out. Okay. Latavius Murray, we talked about him. Carlos Hyde.

You know, it's going back and forth on Carlos Hyde right now. 12 for 25. Matt Berita had the touchdown. The offense is not very good. You're feeling that with Pierre Garsohn. You're feeling that with other pieces there. Confidence level on Carlos Hyde. Has it gone down because of this performance? It was another one of those games where he was below 70% of the snaps. So I'd, he's still running back too with upside. Amir Abdullah, not getting it done. Some get pulled down.

by one arm, you know, with one arm yesterday, that seems to have been the problem. There's not a lot of, like he's got the top speed, but he needs that like, like old school CJ Spiller. You need that lane for him to accelerate. I mean, we didn't expect a lot against Pittsburgh, but 11 for 27. Ooh, expected more than that, though. Wendell Smallwood, what happened there?

He didn't play. He didn't get the work. This was a LaGarrett Blunt game. What was it? Corey Clement game, too, Tim for 54. Yeah. Clement has been running ahead of Wendell Smallwood. That's something where I've been curious if it's injury. The fact that Wendellon practiced this last week and was active says that he's just behind Clement right now. What in the world do fantasy owners do with T. By Hilton? Two for 15 this week on seven targets. Trade him.

If you can get value in the name. Who wants T.Y. Hilton, though. I don't think that name is there anymore. It's been enough weeks where, like, if somebody came and offered me anything for T.Y. Hilton, two weeks ago, I'm not doing it. Yet last week I got offered, you know, in a dynasty league, J. Nelson and T.Y. Hilton for, you know, A.J. Green, it wasn't even a thought. No, of course not. Yep. You just, I guess you just bench him in hope that the offense can turn it around. There's not really much you can do it because I wouldn't cut T. Y. Hilton. Would you cut him, J.?

I wouldn't cut him. No, that's why I'm saying I would look to trade because the name is usually big enough where if you package him with someone else, it can push another owner over the top saying, ooh, I'm getting this guy who's okay and I get T.Y. Hilton, if he comes to form, my team's going to be great. And I don't have to deal with having to start him in what looks to be good matchups or not start him in what appears to be bad and luck into the game that he's actually involved.

Stefan Diggs didn't do much for fantasy owners against Cleveland and his return to the lineup. Now he has a buy week. Are you worried about Stefan Diggs or do you think that this was just kind of acclimation? I think it was just acclamation. London games are weird. I talked about that. Stefan Diggs had a sensational cat. Well, it wasn't a catch, but a very, very near catch. I mean, get another week to heal up on that groin. Get to come back against Washington, then the Rams.

I'm still in on Diggs. Yeah, I am as well. All right. Not trying to rock the ball, but I got to ask the question. I mean, does Bryant? I know we talked a little bit about the weather. We knew it would be a rough. Josh Norman. It should be a rough game despite his success last year. The question that I really have is rest of season. Does Bryant now has played half a season? After this game is going to be outside the top 20 in fantasy wide receivers. Do you really consider Des Bryant a wide receiver one for your fantasy team?

His championship week matchup is Seattle. He's got the Giants in week 14. Traditionally, they've been a little bit difficult on him. What is Des Bryant the rest of season? He's had four touchdowns across the first eight games. It's not the end of the world there. No 100-yard games. Where should our confidence level be with Des Bryant? I genuinely believe that Des Bryant rest of season, if you just take from next week on through the rest.

he's a top 12 wide receiver. That's how I see him, how I would treat him. He's got a good enough quarterback, a good enough offense, good enough targets, good enough talent. I think everything, you know, I still believe wholeheartedly in Des. I would love to have him on my roster. I'm not afraid of him. What I said about DAC earlier with this game specifically is then obviously still true of Des Bryant. I mean, I,

I realize that, you know, he's only a wide receiver two right now on the year. But we also talked about, you know, the difficulty of those first 10 weeks for his cornerback matchup before the season. Some things haven't worked out. And look, because he's always been an efficiency guy, a touchdown guy versus a total receptions type of player, you're going to have down weeks in there.

And so he's obviously not a top five guy, but I would say he's top 12. Chiefs, Falcons, Eagles, his next three matchups. I have no problems with any of those matchups. Yeah. Okay. Brandon Cook's down week, five for 26 on eight targets. Amari Cooper returned. Oh. Five for 48 on 10 targets.

Unfortunately, that offense didn't do much up in Buffalo. Devin Funches didn't really show up this week. Piergarsan. I hate seeing Piergarsan stifled. Are we out? Say, are you out on Pierre Garcone? He's a flex consideration. Yeah, so down to three? Unfortunately, yeah. Nelson Aguilar, no touchdown this week. Nope. That means no fantasy value this week. DeJohn Jackson, he felt the James Winston implosion, three for 37.

Jarvis Landry, we talked about the Thursday night game, but that was a mess because Matt Moore. Willie Sneed, nothing. Goosey. Yeah, Willie Sneed played four snaps. So he was not involved at all. You know, I don't know if this is injury or trying to get other players more involved or they just don't see him as part of the future. You just got to keep waiting and watching. But while you wait and watch, he shouldn't be on your bench. He's not worth.

rostering. Put him on the waiver wire? Yes. I mean, you should have put him on the waiver wire two weeks ago. When you think about the Drew Breeze thing we talked about earlier, I mean, he lost Willie Sneed and Brandon Cooks from the offense. So I think that that's what you're feeling. And you also picked up kind of, you know, Elvin Camara has played a role, but it hasn't been enough to give. But they've always had that role. Right. Sure. Hunter Henry. Ugh.

Hunter. Two for 11. Jordan Reed. Got me again. ASJ, only 5 for 28 this week. Jason Whitten did not play well despite Washington struggle. Washington struggles against the tight end. Anything to comment on there? I mean, Hunter Henry, I think we expected more. He's got the buy next week. Are you willing to drop him for another player next week? No, I would not drop him. So you'd roster two tight ends just for prep for the rest of the season? Yeah, unfortunately, I would because if someone dropped Henry.

This week I would pick them up. Yeah, I'm inclined to agree there. All right, the Broncos take on the Chiefs, a reminder tonight, finishing up week eight. And we'll get our rankings up for week nine on Wednesday. So stay tuned there. Make sure you tune into YouTube. YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers tomorrow. Yeah, no, you know, all baby-faced jokes aside, you probably do want to go today.

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