Fantasy Football 2018 - The TRUTH About Fantasy WRs in 2017, Part 2

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Man, shucks. Tweet, tweet. You guys aren't on five days a week. That sucks. I like listening to it every day. Guess what? There's a bonus episode every single week over at Jointhefoot.com. One of many perks you can get for helping support the show that is Join the Foot.com. Hey, this is David Johnson, running back of the Arizona Cardinals, and you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers podcast. To the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Coming to you from the Playdraft Studios.

With your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in. It is Thursday, January 11th, and we're back once more with another great episode. Jason, how are you doing today? Oh, I'm so happy that you guys let me in today. Yeah, we took the keys away, but we still let you in from time to time. Yeah, I usually I just try to walk really close behind Mike as he walks in and hope nobody notices.

Like the guy that when you go into like a gated community, they tailgate you in back behind the car? Yeah, like I do when I go into a gated community. Like when you go into a game. Exactly. You nailed it. We have the second half of a of a truth episode telling the truth about fantasy wide receivers in 2017, the fantasy year, how consistent they'd been versus where they finished, you know, their fantasy rank at the end of the year.

And we had a great episode on Tuesday. I encourage you to go back, listen through. We got through the top 10. And today we're going to get through a bunch more. A whole bunch. Probably. 70. Look, the rule is, one of the rules that we have is you have to get far enough to do the David, to do the Devin Funches drop. Yeah. Oh. You have to at least get to Devin Funches or you haven't succeeded in a podcast. That's fair. How are you doing, Mike? I'm doing fantastic. I've finally worn off.

The PTSD, I was talking to Jason. Apparently he did not hear this. And as I'm watching the games on Sunday, I meant to bring this up on Tuesday's show, there is a cricket shirt. What? There is a cricket shirt happening in my house. Oh, it's in your house? Yeah. Well, so I thought. And so, I mean, I go on, I mute the audio. I'm looking for this. And then I think, wait a minute. Because I've seen it on the Facebook, they got those prank.

cards where it's a sticker and it just chirps like a cricket for hours and hours. It's my wife trying to pull one over on me. And so I wait. That sounds pretty funny. I'm watching the audio or watching the football game. No audio for minutes and minutes and nothing is happening. No crickets. I unmute it instantly. And so it's one of those, oh crap that I unmute it too soon and now I can't find it. Come to find out, it's coming out of the speakers. I rewound and there it was a cricket chirp.

I'm tweeting about this. I feel like a crazy person. What is happening through detective work, the football can help me out. Every time CBS goes from replay to regular live footage, there is a cricket chirp. Apparently this has been happening for weeks. In the sound effect? This is in the broadcast. There's a cricket. So for everyone who has never noticed the cricket shirt before, you are welcome. Join me in hell. Wow.

Wow. Okay. Well, I'll have to not pay attention to that on the next podcast. No, it's impossible because that's all you will hear now. All right. All right. Great quick question before we jump right into the truth about fantasy-wide receivers. Follow us first on Twitter. At the F.F. Ballers, all offseason. We're a year-round fantasy podcast. So if you want to stay connected to the show, follow us on Twitter at the FFBallers. Visit the community at Jointhefoot.com. Our websites, the fantasy footballers.com.

And we're also on Facebook. We're on YouTube, Fancy Sports Network, all over the place. You can't miss us. Just look at your window. Quick question of the day. What's your favorite part of the offseason, gentlemen? That's an impossible question. I mean, that is so tough because... Is that kind of like, what's your favorite part of Christmas? Yeah, exactly. Is it the music? Is it the food? Is it the presents? Is it the trees? What dessert tastes best? All of them.

All of them taste the best. So if you had to nibble on one dessert, which I know you're not one to nibble. Well, see, here, I'm going to skirt. This is not my, I'm changing the question now. Okay. Okay, because I can do whatever I want because you guys didn't stop me from getting in. You aren't the host? You didn't stop me free. You didn't lock the door. I'm in. I get to talk. Okay. I'm going to go with what I'm looking forward to most right now.

This isn't my favorite thing of the whole off season, but right now I am really, really, really looking forward to investigating incoming rookies. I missed that. I had so much fun last year diving deep on the rookies, watching the college tape, you know, reading different reports and scouting reports. So right now, as soon as fantasy playoffs ended a couple weeks ago, I shifted focus, and I am really looking forward to diving deep into

All of those rookies. That's my favorite part of the current segment. But best ball drafts are probably my favorite part. Mike, what stands out to you? It's, I really like the bonus podcast on Join the Foot because, I mean, we talk football nonstop. And we still talk football because we talk to rookies. We talk the coaching changes. Everything in the.

We talk whatever you ask us. But that's the thing. Yeah, it's great. All of a sudden we launch into a 10-minute debate on what's the best Super Nintendo game because that's a space where we can do that, get to have fun. I love football. I like to talk about other things sometimes. So it's just a nice little reprieve to get to do the best of both worlds. Best thing is we're talking about whatever you ask. Exactly. So, you know. Yeah, I mean. Like, why is Mike so handsome? I don't know.

Tough to determine. Can't quantify. Just handsome. Just plain old handsome. Regular Tyler Eifer. Andy, what about you? What's your favorite part of the offseason? I'm struggling like you would with a, you know, a dessert buffet here. You know, the easy answer for me is, you know, when the draft season hits. I mean, that's the favorite. That's so far from now, though, that I would say the NFL draft is great because I feel like as soon as the NFL draft.

Like watching it and then through that next week, you can start to see some of the 2018, in this case, ADP starts to take form. NFL draft is the gas station. That fuels you. Yeah, fuels the fantasy rocket. I mean, by then, you know, you're kind of, we're still cruising, but then you hit the turbo boost because you've restocked. Yeah. You're driving from Arizona to Disneyland. You just hit the border. Oh, California. And I'm ready for the home stretch.

And I would also, if I want to say internally here, I would say getting the ultimate draft kick there. That was in my mind as well, getting all that stuff wrong. We start doing pre-orders on that and building the ultimate draft kit out from basically now through its release, which is normally right in the summertime. So very excited. I love the fact that you have kind of the offseason to.

Think differently to prepare. Everybody's undefeated in the offseason. It's a lot of fun. So Brooks, do you have a favorite part of the off season? Do you have one that comes to mind? Yeah, I mean, fantasy draft time. That's like that's your favorite. Yeah, that's easily. Yeah, that counts as off season. I feel like that.

Well, it's just in season, Brooks. No. No, that is, if that's the offseason, I mean, that's, I think everybody's favorite part. It's kind of like, you know, asking who's your favorite player to have watched? You're not allowed to say Alvin Camara this year. It's just because everyone's going to say it. But that is the best time. Don't we have a drop. We don't have a drop. Yeah, I mean, I would say also if you're in a Dinesseer Keeper League, any offseason transactions. The offseason's great.

It's so wonderful. I love it all. Coaching changes is one of my favorite things. Can we just talk about all the things we love in the off season? Because we can do this for an hour. Nope. We got to talk about the truth. Before you hit that button. You want answers. I think I'm entitled. You want answers. I want the truth. Can't handle the truth. Well done. All right. I should never have said that. Your one detour.

That you're allowed per show. You already wasted it. Yeah, well, watch the hold my bear. Another detour. Hey, if you're playing with us, which I assume you are because we have, I think, like the third largest group on NFL.com for their playoff challenge. If you're in the fantasy footballers group or if you're playing at all there, make sure you go and check your lineup, set your...

next round of the playoff lineup. And here's something that's changed. We have the second largest group. Thank you very much. Oh, very nice. Just about 5,000. Well, well, well. Very nice. But last year, if you, you know, if you drafted in week one, a team of all by round guys or at least people on teams that are still playing in the next week, you might assume that those players are already in your lineup. They are not. You need to go back in and set them.

You will get the double bonus points by setting them again, but you've got to do it manually. I'm happy to say that all of my players are at a two times bonus next week. I had to replace both my kicker and my D. All right. We're back into the truth about fantasy wide receivers. A quick refresher. We are looking at where fantasy players finished, wide receivers where they finished, and then what their consistency rank is. We basically...

came up with this consistency rank based on how often a player busts, how often they are considered good, which is a average of a top 24 finish, and how often they score points that would consider them great, which means they're finishing with a point total on a given week that would put them in that top five week-winning, dominating performance range. And so we're looking at players so that you can get a better picture of, hey, it's more than just the end-of-season rank. When you're three, four months from now,

You may come back and listen through these episodes again. I know a lot of you did last year because you want the refresher course on what really happened. As Tom Cruise said, he wants the truth. I can handle it. AJ Green. AJ Green finished number 11 on the season with a consistency rank of 20. Yeah, that's like the 90 degrees feels like 115.

The weather. I was going to... The wind chill factor. You go the other way. Yeah, sure. I guess it is the winter. It's like 30 out, but it feels like about six. Yes, exactly. That was AJ Green. Finished as a wide receiver one, did not feel like it. Hurt you a lot. 75 for just over 1,000 and eight touchdowns on 145 targets. The line is fine. It's just how did you get there? 25% of his performances were great. Which...

To be fair, for AJ Green's credit, that's a fantastic number. I mean, he won you some weeks. Yes. Then he was good, no 38% of the time, but a 31% bust rate for AJ Green, a top five wide receiver selection in the draft, devastating. On top of that, the defensive split. Here's where AJ Green was an issue. When he's playing against top 16 defenses, he was six points worse, which...