Fantasy Football 2018 - The TRUTH About Fantasy WRs in 2017, Part 2

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Finish number 15, but his consistency ranking was number 24, which is, I mean, right on the edge there of wide receiver 2 consideration. He had 92 receptions, 1,000 yards and 5 touchdowns. He only had one game all year that is classified as a great game, a top 5 type of performance. So you didn't get any boom from him, but you did get some busts. 38% of the time he busted for you. That's why the consistency ranking is so low.

And where do we go from here with Golden Tate? Because I have a feeling he's not only going to slip in drafts, but he might be worthy of slipping in drafts. That's so rough, man, because you have Golden Tate here. This is four years in a row. So every year he's been in Detroit, he's had over 90 receptions. Three of those years, he's been over 1,000 yards. The past two years, over 90 and over 1,000. How does a guy putting up those numbers give you...

How does he bust so often? How do you such inconsistency? Well, here's the thing. We talked about Jarvis Landry on the Tuesday show. I feel like Tate has had the year that Jarvis Landry is very capable of having, where you just take that 112 receptions? Let's bring it down to 92. Let's take that nine touchdowns. Let's bring that down to five. Where do you end up? Well, you end up as a middling wide receiver 2 with inconsistent numbers because you just, you're right. You'd think a PPR guy would be more consistent. He wasn't.

He has Matthew Stafford. He's got that stability. You got a new head coach coming in. But you got a 27-year-old Marvin Jones on the other side that finished better than he did this past year. I just don't know what to do with Golden Tate. One of the hardships for Golden Tate is it is not.

as easy with him as some other players to determine when it is. It's not like he is terrible against the top defenses or really good at home or there's no easy to verify metric for knowing when he disappears. But we have three years of him having plenty, like you said, all those numbers and constantly disappearing. I think at this point we have to say that's who he is. And you need to know, I mean, look, I would have been happy having Golden Tate

on my team at the right draft price, probably overdrafted this year. Next year, if he does slip, like you're saying, Andy, then I might actually draft them because you have a guy that can put up, you know, a lot of numbers. But I want him as a wide receiver, too, at a great draft value. That's exactly what I want from Golden Tate. I want to have invested like, you know, three. Sixth round pick or something. Yeah, like invested like three or four of my top five picks on running backs and a tight end, you know, and then snag Golden Tate.

as a complimentary piece. I don't want to have to pay up for him. Could it change for the better with a new head coach coming in and not? Because it really seemed like Golden Tate was a game plan thing. Like you'd watch certain games and it was just their intent was different. See, Golden Tate had big, big, big plays a few years ago. He was the number one yards after the catch wide receiver in football. He was once again the most elusive receiver after catching the ball. But I don't think as you age.

your odds of those numbers replicating get better. Right. And they've stayed, he did it again, though. No, he didn't. He had five touchdowns. No, but I'm saying he is the past four years, three of those four years, he's been the most elusive wide receiver after the catch. Yes, but part of the reason for that is because of the percentage of his catches that are done on those moving screens where you can beat that first guy. So the last three years, I mean, Jason is right. He had the monstrous year, his first year in Detroit.

But you're going back and grabbing it 2014 now. That was 99 for 1,300. That was the monster year. Since then, I mean, 813, 1077, 1003, 1,000 yards. It's nothing to sneeze at. It's just not something that I'm willing to. Like, I'd draft Marvin Jones ahead of him. Yes. Yeah. I talked about on Tuesday show that maybe I want to tape more than Jones, but that's just it's not accurate.

Do you want Robbie Anderson? Robbie! Now, he's the 16th ranked whiteout. Robbie! But he was almost the 30th ranked consistency. But he wasn't? He was 29. He was 29. 16 games, 63 receptions, 941 yards, 7 touchdowns on 114 targets. Only one great game was good, 38% of the time. Remember, good means top 24 level, point. And then he busted 38% of the time. Lots of quarterback.

problems in New York, really a much better player at home, almost eight fancy points better at home. But a young, talented wide receiver, could we see Robbie Anderson make a leap next year? We could, but it's going to be completely dependent on the quarterback. And I don't think they're going to have a quarterback that allows him to make that leap forward. Robbie Anderson is a talented wide receiver. And if you look at how the year started, three of those...

Six busts he had on the year were all in those first five weeks where, you know, he hadn't really come out of the, you know, doldrums. He hadn't separated himself to be the number one wide receiver yet. If you were to take out three busts from his list, he jumps all the way up to the number 12 most consistent wide receiver. So the problem with Robbie is clear. It's just quarterback. Who's throwing on the ball? If Josh McCown comes back next year, I will happily draft Robbie Anderson.

Out of value. I think he'll still be a value, too. Yeah, and I think he would still be a value. I think he'll get off to a great start, and I'll try to trade him before Josh McCown kamikaze's. Inevitably, he falls on his own sword. Yes. And touchdown regressions likely coming for Robbie Anderson, seven touchdowns on 63 receptions. A little bit of news, we didn't mention it. The Raiders did officially hire Paul Gunther as defensive coordinator and Greg Olson.

as the offensive coordinator. I do not like the Greg Olson hire. No. Nope. It reeks of old school. Old school. And they want to run the ball. A retreaded name who I've never liked. So I take that for what you will. I've never been in Greg Olson fan. I'm just the coach. The coach. We'll see. I mean, what they're investing in. I know. You're super skeptical of Gruden. I think he'll have some success there. Once again, I don't think Gruden.

is a bad coach what you have invested into everything is all in on john gruden fixing everything to do that to put any of that on on anyone of just one person is a mistake uh his name better be bill mike mike shanahan got a similar situation in washington didn't work out right gruden has a lot of respect yeah

in league circles. So we'll see what happens. All right, number 17, maybe the hottest of all topics. Yes, for sure. This is the guy we've all been waiting to get to. Mike Evans. Mike Evans, everyone wanted to crown him. Give him that top three moniker at the beginning of the season. Well, 15 games. He had 71 receptions for just over 1,000 yards and five touchdowns on 135 targets. So the targets?

Mike, you should look this up. Last year he was over 170, wasn't he? I'm pulling it up right now. This year, 135. We said before the year there's no way that number replicates. But I don't know if any of us saw him dropping to where he was. He had zero great games. It's really a shame that last year in the preseason, he had such a good preseason because I was very much down on Mike Evans.

in the early off season, but he looked so good in preseason that I said, you know, he's going to overcome it. And the truth is I do think he's a great wide receiver. And when you look into how he was inconsistent or how he disappointed you, I think it's surprising. I know it surprised me because what I thought without looking into it was that, look, Mike Evans, he had to deal with James being out for a while.

and he had a lot of games that just completely crapped your team and, you know, a couple boom games. That's what I thought. Like, that was the feeling, and that's completely wrong on Mike Evans in the sense that he only busted 20% of the time, which is better than the average of the top 24. The real issue with him was that he never really boomed. He didn't have a single game over 20 points in the...

you know, in half-point scoring, not one. The whole year, that's what he made his living doing the year before. Now, he's a great bounceback candidate for a lot of reasons, though. Yes. One being his monstrous size and only having five touchdowns. I mean, you look at a guy like Evans as the inverse Jarvis Landry, Landry with nine touchdowns this year. Evans is a double-digit candidate. Yes. Every single season. He also started the year pretty darn great.

with James Winston and then you had quarterback issues and he never got from the Carolina game basically midway through the season and beyond is when he really, really let you down. But here's the thing. Mike Evans is one of three receivers ever to have a thousand yards each of his first four seasons. You can't fluke your way.

into that level production that has been, if I remember correctly, it's AJ Green, Randy Moss. That's it. So I still believe in Mike Evans long term. But what are you willing to pay for? Yeah, I would pay. Top five? No. I'm talking top five wide receiver? Were you talking redraft? Are you drafting him over AJ? Are you taking him over AJ Green next year? Oh.

That's a good question. That's a very good question. They're going to be really close in my rankings. You're taking him over Michael Thomas? No. Are you taking them over Keenan Allen? No. So then not over Julio. Not over O'Dell, Beckham. No. Not over Hopkins or Brown. Nope. So he's not up. He's the back part of the. Yeah. I was going to say back of the second round, which is Evans will slip in drafts this upcoming year. Which is very nice. So I'm still interested in him. And James.

What I was going to say is, did he trick us again with the final half of the season when he was playing great? Yes, he was turning the ball over, but for fantasy purposes, he was playing great football. So will that continue to next year? Or was it just another, let's buy into James and the Bucks again? We should talk about that during the off season. Maybe we will. Alshan Jeffrey was the 18th ranked wide receiver, but had a consistency ranking of 12.

So despite finishing at 18, he was more consistent than many a wide receiver. He busted only 25% of the time. He only had one great game, but he was very consistent in that middle round. He was really surprisingly consistent. Only 57 receptions. Yeah, really surprisingly consistent this year. When you look, yeah, you look at the reception total. And what's amazing is that two of his bust games.

came without Carson Wins at the end of the season. So, you know, it took him a while, I think, to really become the clear number one for the Eagles. But next year with Carson Wince, who I believe will not be able to be a...

rushing quarterback to the same level as he was this year, which hurts him, hurts the offense a little bit. But it does mean that he's got to stand in that pocket, throw the ball a little bit more. I like Alshan going forward. They just signed him to a four-year deal. I don't think anything, anything affecting Cars and Wentz's ability to get out of the pocket or be elusive helps anybody in that offense. I would really disagree at that point. I think that what makes him...