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Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Sleepers, Breakouts, News, Mailbag

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He's going to be the guy moving forward. Yes, Gio is going to get his as the gadget guy coming in on some third downs. That's not necessarily Jeremy Hill's forte, although he can catch the ball. You're a guy who can hit the home run, a guy who can grind it out. He can do everything that you want. The news out of Cincinnati is they're admitting that they need to run more, which is a shocker for a team that has Andy Dalton. They get to see him every day.

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How does it take this long to decide, maybe we should run a little bit more? It is ridiculous. Yeah, the upside, it reminds me a lot of Levy on Bell. He's going into his second year, and his utilization is going to go through the roof and his talent is there. I mean, that's what you look for is you look for these young guys who are about to explode. You get them at a better value, and that's, I mean, Jeremy Hill. These are all essentially second year guys. Yeah. So.

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I didn't realize that. The last guy on our list is Jarvis Landry. We've talked about him as well. He had 84 receptions last year. We all have him pegged to go over 100 this year. He's got more value in a PPR system, but I think 100 catches 1,000 plus yards. Five, six, seven touchdowns for Jarvis Landry is...

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well within the realm of possibility, and he's going to outperform his ADP, at least right now. And so Jarvis Landry is another breakout candidate for us, another second-year guy out of LSU, really burst on the scene, has a great report with Tanna Hill. He's a guy that we all love watching, and Mike Wallace is out of the picture there. So we'll see who they bring in. I'm guessing it'll be a Greg Jennings type of guy, a veteran leader type of guy, not a steal underneath routes away from him. Go Google.

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his one-handed catches. It looks just like Odell Beckham, and they're impressive. They're not like, oh, you know, I mean, I can catch a ball with one hand, but he's getting these things shot, you know, out of a cannon, and he's just catching these things as the ball's passing away from him, like he's catching it from the back. Then he takes his glove off, and then he does it with bare hand. It's like, oh, okay, this guy's got amazing hands. His talent is incredible. There's a reason Mike Wallace has left the building. Jarvis is a perfect steady.

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part of your team where he he's not likely going to give you these these super super sexy games of like a Des Bryant that kind of he or Antonio Brown that's not who he is he's like Antonio Brown light is what I would compare him to a him jumping on board with a five catch 50 yard into that that talk where we're always going on about Brown him jumping in there would not surprise me at all he just

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His floor is so high, but the question for Jarvis Landry is the ceiling. But like I said, it's perfect to go with, if you want to throw in some boom bus guys, he's the perfect compliment for that. Mailbag. Had a jittery finger there. My apologies. I was too excited to get into the mailbag section. We have a bunch of questions today. You guys ready for this? Oh, I was born ready.

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Ready to bring value to our listeners here? I'm sorry I said that. All right. First question comes in via email from Tony. You can follow him at Tony Dolphins fan. Hey, Sony. Yeah, it was Danza. Hold me closer, Tony Danza. He has a 12-team league. He's looking to pick basically two.

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Keepers. Six points per passing TD, I guess the only other bit of information you want to know is he's got three wide receivers. Yeah, starts three wide receivers. So here's his keeper options and the corresponding pick he would lose. Justin Forsett, 16th. Jeremy Hill, the 8th round. Latavius Murray, the 16th round. Jarvis Landry, the 16th round. And Devante Adams, the 16th round. Some guys we talked about today. Yeah, that's funny. Three of them.

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He says he's leaning towards Hill and Murray, but he's curious about our thoughts. Don't do it. Really? Yes, really. This is so clear. I'm Hill and Murray. You're Hill and Mary. Okay, well, you and me can have fisticuffs later. Wait, is this because of Forset? This is because of Forset. A four set to me in the 16th is incredible value. Now, if they go out and drag out. Why is it incredible value compared to Murray?

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Oh my goodness. Because Justin Forsett did it last year. So did Murray in limited carries. No. No, he did not. He had a game where he had two carries and 100,000 yards. You take out his one 80-yard run. He was under four yards at carry. Yeah, take out his good plays. He's bad. I love that argument in fantasy football. Just a one play. Here, Forset, I mean, if they go out and they draft Gordon, okay, then sure, go Murray. But here is not that close to me. He was 5.2 a carry.

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Take out the 80-yard game. You don't take out 80-yard runs. That's ridiculous. Oh, I do. I do in the sense that, well... So did you take all of Jeremy Hills out when he had 80-yard runs that got him 5.2 a carry? You can take out one of them, and he still has more. Well, I think the point Mike is making is that if you look at some of the later games where he played the entire game and it wasn't actually that quality, then they go out and they get...

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Garbage man. Richardson. I'm not speaking the name. It's Voldemort. Yeah, Mr. T. Yeah, I'm saying, just do his, do the other games. If you want upside, you go Latavius Murray. If you want... No. Yes, you do. He's got better upside than Justin Fawcett. I think with Tresman coming in, if they don't draft a rookie, I think with Tresman coming in, Fawcett is one of my guys I'm really high on. The miles are not on his tires. He did it last year. He fits Tresman's system.

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perfectly. They signed him again. I really like... Here's what I can tell you, Tony. You definitely want to take Jeremy Hill with that eighth round swap. Yes. And then, depending on your own take on, no, no, no, no. We got to move on. We got three other questions. I have a Murray question for you. What is Murray's upside? Where is the highest Murray can possibly finish? In my opinion? Yes. I think he can finish as an RB1. Where? What do you mean where? Like back half of it. Okay. Where did Justin Forset finish last year?

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Not hypothetical. What did he actually do? I'm guessing 6, 7, 8? 8. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So why would you go with the upside of a guy who could do it as opposed to a guy who just did it? Because one's younger and one's older, and they obviously want a different back inside of Baltimore. They didn't overpay for set. They have Talley Fero. They want, they're going to draft the running bat.

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Here's the other reason I would say is because Latavius Murray is being drafted right now. His ADP is around later. So if you've got to put one guy back into the draft, you know, that's another thing you need to consider when you're keeping in a keeper league is that who can you draft when the draft rolls around, you know. So here's simple. Thank you, Tony. Thank you for this question because you've walked us into a water bet. Justin Forset. Oh, I'll take that all day. Oh, do it. Oh, yeah.

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Waterbed. Yeah. Forset Murray. That's fine. By the way, my answer is Hill Forset. Yeah, that's fine. I picked up on that. All right, the second question comes in on Twitter from Austin L. If Dallas starts the year with McFadden, how high do you reach for Randall? I like the way that question was framed, and it's so appropriate. So how high do you reach for Joseph Randall? I'm just trying to pick a round here.

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So this is assuming no rookie then, right? Yes, that's what he's the same. McFadden's the starter. However, I will answer your question with this. Well, a thing that people have forgotten is the Cowboys re-signed Ryan Williams. Ryan Williams at one time was a second round pick. Now McFadden has the higher overall contract. Ryan Williams has more guaranteed money this year.

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So that speaks to that they actually think Ryan Williams has something to offer the team, and nobody is talking about him. So I would watch what happens, because maybe Ryan Williams ends up, if they don't spend the high pick, it could be Ryan Williams and McFadden. Yeah, and between that and Joseph Randall has had some off-the-field issues. Between that and a three-headed monster, I guess not very high would be the answer until you see something. Oh, that would be the worst.

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If it ends up a three-headed monster, the Dallas position. I think they can totally do that, too. Yes, I agree. What better situation to do that end than that offensive line. And I don't think Joseph Randall, if McFadden goes down, I don't think Joseph Randall just goes into that.

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Every down back rolls. Gunbar. He's really good, but he's, yeah, his carry count is not going to be high. This question comes in, hopefully that helps you a little bit. I think the Ryan Williams' perspective is great, because you've got to remember that there are other people in the mix there, and they might draft a guy. And so obviously his question presupposed McFadden's the leader, but I don't think you reach for Randall. Yeah, it wouldn't be very high. It would be the normal handcuff area. Yeah. Really? Yeah, maybe a little, what, like seven? Well, I wouldn't, I don't put him in a handcuff category. Me either. Randall?

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No, I'd be putting them into like a DeWill, Jay Stu, the past few years situation where Randall and McFadden, there's no way McFadden takes all the starting care. Let's assume this question of truth where McFadden's, they're going in with him as the guy. Where do you take McFadden? Yeah, that's, I was really wanting to talk about it. I take Randall ahead of McFadden. Oh, what? Really? Yeah. Oh, I would actually, I'm going to throw up here.

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I think I really would like McFadden. Honestly, if McFadden's in that role, I think I really like him. I've got an IR spot on most of my leagues. So when he's in there, I think he's going to be good. And I don't think he's going to go that high. So, yeah, fourth. McFadden did the opposite of Crabtree going to a place to reestablish that. I do agree with that. I do agree with that. All right, this next question is an email. It comes in from Guy who doesn't want to have to keep Sanky but might have to.

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If that gives you any indication of what the question is, what are the range of outcomes for Bishop Sanky this year? Boy, Bishop Sanky, yeah, I wouldn't want to keep him either. He's going between the fifth and the ninth round right now, average in the eighth from an ADP. He had a horrible year. I mean, he did his best Trent Richardson impression of just making no impact plays. It was more, yes, he was 3.7 a carry. Yes, he only scored two touchdowns.

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But it was no impact place. Longest run of the year was 22 yards from a rookie that everyone was high on. I mean, does Wisenhunt just not know how to run the ball? No. Wisenhunt doesn't know how to draft a running back. As the Cardinal fans, we have suffered through the years of Ken Wisenhunt thinking he knows how to draft running back. We saw him spend a one and a two on busts. I don't trust Wizant Hunt's running back evaluation. So that's why I'm highly skeptical.

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of Sanky going that late, if you take him in the eighth round, I guess that's fine. You might as well take the gamble. But you're talking about a guy whose floor I wrote up a little bit on Sanky, and I believe I said his floor was a Chucky Cheese ticket attendant. Yeah, he's not, the upside of that offense is gross to me. I just don't like that offense very much. And he got enough volume. It's not like.

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It's not like, oh, well, he'll have opportunity this year. He had opportunity last year. Eventually. Yeah, but I mean, when you get the amount of carries he does and produce at that level, you've already seen, you've already seen what you got. And historically for rookies, they can have a bad rookie year and come and be great, but not when they have a rookie year with the volume he had. Historically, when you've got that, you know what you've got and you've got a bum. Philip Rivers or...

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Mariotta, Marriota, might change my opinion slightly about... You're saying if the... Yeah, if it changes... If there's somebody to keep you honest, yeah. Well, and Philip Rivers likes to dump to the running back, and Mariotas, if they know what they're doing, they're going to have to run some form of a spread offense for him. So there's some thoughts on Bishop Sanky. Hopefully your name can change the guy who didn't have to keep Bishop Sanky. Let's tackle one more from Twitter. This one comes in from...

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Coach P. Jeremy P. Coach P. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's his handle on there. He's asked us a couple questions. Better investment for half PPR auction league. Keep that in mind. One half PPR auction league is a high profile wide receiver or running back a better investment. Their starting lineup starts a quarterback, a running back, a couple RB wide receiver flexes.

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a wide receiver, a wide receiver, a tight-end flex, a tight-end and a D. I don't know why. They only have to start one running back. Correct. They only have to. Yes. Now, for me, I'm still going to... But that's the same with wide receiver. You only have to start one wide receiver, too. Right. I'm going to take the high-end running back. I'm going to lock up that position. I'm going to make sure I have an advantage there. You can find...

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