multifaceted guys, and I don't see sign of decline on him. I just see system change, but, and I, and I, I haven't seen anything from Khadim Carey that I like, so, we'll agree to disagree on that one. At in Delo, in Delacalo. Man, these, these Twitter handles are much harder to say than the emails that come in. I'll just start making, at email from Todd, Julio Lacey, Steve Smith for AJ Green, ODB, and Lynch. Which side wins, Jason.
Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Draft Day! Questions and Answers, Dynasty Leagues, Keeper Leagues
Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Draft Day! Questions and Answers, Dynasty Leagues, Keeper Leagues
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123 passagesI like this question. I think it's a good, you know, you take a look at each side and there's reasons to pick both. But I would go with AJ, ODB, and Lynch. And my reason for that is because your third player here is basically your weakest link in the chain is stronger in that group. So, you know, essentially you're saying, who would you rather have Lynch or Steve Smith?
Or I guess to be probably more fair, you'd say, AJ Green or Steve Smith. And that gap is really wide between those guys. Because you got Eddie Lacey versus Lynch. You'd probably like Lacey a little bit more, but the gap isn't huge. You got Julio and ODB. I like Julio more, but the gap isn't huge. And then you got Steve Smith or AJ Green. The gap is pretty large there. So I would go with the one with the better gap. Yeah, I believe this is Dynasty as well. So, I mean, if you're talking.
That's why the question is even being asked because the Lacey versus Lynch in a dynasty, it's overwhelmingly for Lacey. But the same goes for Steve Smith and one of those other guys, the ODB or the AJ Green. Yeah, I think I'm going to fire up the two younger receivers and Lynch and then try and find myself a running back. Yeah, the dynasty thing sways it a little bit, but I agree with Jason. That's a good take on that one. I am with you. At Bradley, PHX. Oh, Phoenician.
Yes, a fellow Arizona in here. Contending team, do I do this? Give the third pick, Mark Ingram, Stephen Ridley, Marvin Jones, get AP, Derek McKinnon, Keenan Allen, 2-4, or I'm sorry, the fourth pick of the second round, a 2016 first, second, and third. What? Let me read, did we get that right?
Yeah, this is hard. If I was listening to this in a car, I'd have a hard time wrapping my head around what in the world this deal is. So essentially, the first number is the third pick in a redraft league, which you figure is probably going to be Kevin White. Well, you mean not a redraft league. Or I'm sorry, a Dynasty League. So you've got to figure that's probably Kevin White, right? Because of Mari Cooper and Todd Gurley are most sports. Someone around there. One of those three guys. So one of the rookies, Mark Ingram.
Stephen Ridley and Marvin Jones is what he would give up. But his haul in what he gets back is so much greater. Oh, totally. Agreed. So AP, Derek McKinnon, Keenan Allen, he only gives up the, or he gets the fourth pick of the second round, and then he gets a first second and third in 2016. That's ridiculous. To get Adrian Peterson, especially if you're contending this year, then you already have his handcuff and his, not just his handcuff, but his heir to the throne of Minnesota.
And then all those picks? It's not even close. Yeah. Yes, Bradley. Get it done. All right. Hopefully you accepted before that trade was pulled. Yeah, or before he listened to this show and watched us ridiculed his side of the deal. At B. Scully 121 wants to note. It's a good question. Jordan Matthews or Alan Robinson and John Stewart. The talk show host, not the running back. Oh. Well, he's retiring soon, so.
Okay, the running back, not to talk to host. What do you think? You know, I'm a huge Jordan Matthews guy, and I'm not a big Alan Robinson and Jonathan Stewart guy, even though, I mean, I like where their value is. And Mike, I know you're high on both of those guys, but even still with that, I do think the value here, and of course this depends on your roster, right, because this is a dynasty or a keeper league. And so, you know, if you've got depth.
then go with the higher in talent, which I think is Jordan Matthews. But the value, you're better off on the side of the trade here for the two-for-one getting Alan Robinson and John Stewart. You get a running back. You get a good quality wide receiver. I like it. I'm going with Jordan Matthews on this one. Wow. I like those other. Wow. I am blown away. I never saw Mike going that way. No. Don't confuse how much I like Alan Robinson. I don't.
necessarily think Alan Robinson's going to turn into an elite guy. I believe Jordan Matthews will become an elite fantasy receiver this year or the next. And John Stewart, he's going to be nice. I think he's going to have a great year, but he doesn't have a ton of time left with all of his injuries and how long he's been in the league. So I just, I want the elite talent. And so I'm going with Matthews. And I think that's overstating it.
Because how is he the elite talent? To me, if he hasn't done it yet, which he has not done it yet, on the field, you don't know the role, you don't know who they draft, you don't know those things. I've seen this too many times. Oh, elite talent, that hasn't done it. Monte ball last year. There's plenty of guys like that. But this is the game you have to play when you're in a dynasty. You have to forecast and make your best educated guess at who will become elite talent. Yeah, I guess my point is I don't, I think the forecasting of Robinson and Matthews, I mean.
with the John Stewart pick. I guess I'm just on Jason's side on that. That's fine. I think Robinson would be good. If you're Jordan Matthews believer, it's fine. Yeah, and I am. I think he has, he has all the tools, he has the physical stature, and he's in the system. It's definitely a fair trade, and it's a trade that you need. I mean, it's a trade to send to a show and have the show split and give you no information on it. And no help at all.
At Bill Joe 33 wants to know. Our standard scoring 12-man redraft is debating PPR versus standard, and he's the commish. What are your thoughts on PPR versus standard? I have strong thoughts on that. I have strong thoughts. We all have strong thoughts on this one. Mike, what say you? Half-point PPR is the ultimate scoring system to me. I think PPR far over values receivers, and you get guys like...
Edelman. Well, Edelman, great player, great function in the system that he has. But you had that game last year or two years ago. I can't remember where he had about 15 catches for 50 yards or something like that. But in PPR, his scoring was through the roof because he caught the ball so many times, yet he was averaging three yards of catch. So to me, it's just going a full PPR is just too much. Halfpoint is the perfect medium because it's right in the middle.
What about you, Andy? I agree. I like Halfpoint PPR. We were facing this discussion ourselves when we were deciding what to do with our listener league. By the way, thank you for everyone who's sent in their notes and desires to join our listener league. It's got me thinking about maybe having a second one. I've got to bring that to you guys. We'll talk about it. More leagues? I'm thinking maybe all three of us join up on one team.
In another league. Oh, bring it. And then play against 11 other listeners as well. We won't get anything done. Probably. Based on that last question that we just completely disagreed on. But yeah, I like Halfpoint PPR. If it was just the decision between PPR versus Standard, I go PPR. I think Standard is on its way out. And this show made the decision early on as a show to...
kind of rate and discuss players with the presumption of at least a half-point PPR, which I think is the perfect system. And so that's, I love, I commend your move potentially to a PPR league, and I agree with Mike. Standard scoring is old busted. You know, I mean, from just a pragmatic fun standpoint, it's just more fun to have, you know, you don't have a scoring system like the days of old where you're going through and, you know, just adding up yards. You have.
instant tracking and instant scoring and that instant feedback of today's, you know, entertainment. Use decimals. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We definitely use decimal points. You got to use decimals. No other thoughts on that? Nope. I'm in a complete agreement. Halfpoint PPR is king. Yeah. Yeah. It wins. I think I know the answer to this next question based on some of the things you talked about before. Comes in from at Paul Marnie, our Scottish friend. Hey.
He has tweeted us a question. Who's the better dynasty quarterback target? Cam Newton or Ryan Tannehill? He says Cam's stats are regressing, Tans are improving, or is it only his dolphin fan bias? That is a very observant thing to see that Cam Newton is regressed every year while Tannahill has improved every year. I'll let Jason talk. Yeah, we don't know what you think. Yeah, I still go Cam Newton.
For sure. I don't think, I think that you want the better player who puts up the better fantasy points. And the arrows might be pointing certain directions, but those directions, I think, are pointing near their end peaks. And I actually, I don't see Cam having a worse year this year than he did last year. I think Cam... So you have Cam over... Yeah, I have Cam over this year. So I will use this analogy. When I need to get to the penthouse of a very...
tall building, I push the up arrow. Uh-huh. That's usually how I get to the top. Kind of like the ascension of statistics from a quarterback like, I don't know, Ryan Tannehill. I mean, going up is that, that's usually how you get to the top, right? Usually. And so you're saying that's when you start on the bottom floor? No. Who finished better last year?
It depends on the scoring system. No, it depends on, no. Unless the scoring system is, Newton scores all the points. If you're taking the stairs, you want the guy with the better legs. Okay, and at this point, is it? Yeah. Is it with his, with his ankles and his... Honestly, for me, it's flip a coin, and in this case, the coin's going to land on the Dolphins side because you're a Dolphins fan. So grab your quarterback in a Dynasty League, the guy you like. That is true. I don't know the future.
I do. It's Tanahill. Okay. I do like what they're doing there in terms of weapons, but if Cam has a couple more guys to throw out... Tanahill's option was picked up. Wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second. Who finishes better this year? Cam or Tanahill? Who finishes better this year? Ryan Tanahill. Uh-oh. Put it on the board. Waterbed.
Sweet. I thought I saw that. I saw it starting to come out of there. That's a great one. I love it. You guys actually made a bet for once. Mike and Jason instead of me jumping in and everything. I love it. The Cam Tana Hill bet. All right. That's easy pickings. This next one came in from at BS Allen. Also, probably my favorite tweet of the week. He had a hashtag PPP, PPP, PPR P.O.
T.W. for the Peter Piper Pizza PPR pick of the week. Yes. That's the best hashtag of all time. Thank you. Have you ever had, I'm wondering, is this a new theory preemptive sponsoring? Can we just keep dropping this until some of our listeners tweet? Everybody tweet at Peter Piper. That's the goal. Tweet at Peter Piper about the footballer nation. And until the pizza arrives at our house.
He wants to know in his high money league, so big money here. He's picking 12 out of... This is a great question. He's picking 12 out of 12. Would you take Jeremy Hill in that spot, or is that too early for Jeremy Hill? I'm assuming that it's a snake league, and if I'm at 12, it depends on who's left on the board, but I'm going to make a strong assumption that there's a lot of running backs gone. Jeremy Hill is there at 12? Absolutely.
I take Jeremy Hill, and then I take an elite wide receiver on the flip side. Yeah, I'm in complete agreement. Obviously, if there's a great running back that's slipped that's ahead, but I don't even see how many... I mean, there's not going to be a better running back there in my... My only thought is some people are freaked out by Peterson. Oh, I don't...
Yeah, I mean, if Peterson... So let's say if Peterson is there at 12, Peterson or Hill. Yeah, Peterson or Hill. Yeah, you take Peterson. I take Peterson. Yeah, me too. I love Hill. The one other guy that I think could be there would be Aryan Foster because a lot of people are down on him. You could take them both. If Aaron Foster and... Yeah, if any of those cases, if you've got AP and Hill there or Aaron Foster and Hill there, you take both of those guys and then you go... Yeah, I like... And if this isn't a snake, this is the point where it...
You're not jumping too early on Jeremy Hill. We talked a little bit about, okay, if you had that first five picks, maybe you're waiting for him to come into the second round. But here, grab him. We love him. Absolutely. So good question, BS Allen. I love the hashtag. So awesome. Cheer up over there, man. Me? Yeah. Oh, I don't feel glum. It's draft day. You sound like Eeyore.
