Breakouts + Players We Forgive, Surprise Offenses - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/25

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to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. Oh yeah. Tuesday, August 25th, the fantasy footballers, back with you, Andy Mike and Jason. I, uh, well, Jason and myself, we didn't, we didn't know that intro was coming. That was, um, that was all Mike and.

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that are subscribing, tuning in, getting ready for the 2020 season. Thank you for the reviews on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen. I feel like now I'm in just a... Oh. I'm kind of calmed down, baby. Yeah. Let's get into that. Quick question. That sounded like Mitch Headberg. Let's talk about some Kenny G. Yeah. It just... Waffles are just pancakes with syrup traps.

All right. Players to forgive. Who is the player that you're willing to forgive from last season? So every offseason, there's a lot of hype, there's a lot of excitement, there's a lot of expectation. And sometimes players come out and they have a good year, not a great year. They don't live up to the hype, so to speak, and they need to be forgiven. Other players get hurt. Other players...

You know, they call them post-hyped sleepers for a reason. Sometimes you're a year off on a player. But I want to know, gentlemen, who are you forgiving? I'll jump in here. I am forgiving. James Connor running back from the Pittsburgh Steelers. There is this tier of running backs right around there that Connor is involved with Todd Gurley, David Johnson. All guys that, look, you're going to have to.

work through your feelings and forgive somebody if you're going to draft them. And for me, it is James Connor because to me, the only thing stopping James Connor from being a top 10 running back is health. Now, the health is a very large question. But those other guys in that tier, there are larger questions that have to be answered along with health. We saw Connor still put up three top 10 weeks in his limited amount of work with...

terrible quarterback play. Let's also not forget. Ben Rothesberger is back. All reviews for the quarterback at a training camp have been glowing. It's still being reported. You know, James Connor is the guy for this team. We'll see if he can play his way into another contract. But for this year, if James Connor is healthy, he's going to be a complete draft steal. So you're forgiving. I am. Did it take you a long time or was this a quick?

Well, emotional. So he was my guy for me last year. I was all in on James Connor and it's a deep cut. I mean, that hurts. It was. It was, it burnt. Here's the thing about James Connor and we've said it on the show in the past. He's not going to finish where he's being drafted. Right. He's the kind of player that if he's the guy and he's healthy, he's going to be much higher in.

Final fantasy finish for 2020. Or he's going to be hurt. They're going to share time. It's going to be multiple running backs. And then he won't be a fourth round pick. No, no. So interesting. Mine's in that same category, that same range of running backs. And it's David Montgomery. David Montgomery is a player that I think people have a hard time liking. After last year, the excitement, the preseason hype, how good a running team.

Chicago was the year prior with Jordan Howard. It all fell apart for Matt Nagy. If you remember the press conferences with Matt Nagy, it was like, yeah, I want to run the football, but they were running it like 39% of the time and trusting Mitch Trubisky 61% of the time. It wasn't a good situation, but as a rookie, I mean, 277 opportunities or carries in that offense, finished at number 25 at the position, sometimes gets lost in the equation. And he should be the only.

goal line option for Chicago. So if things improve on offense, he's a very capable pass catcher. I think what he did last year is probably the basement of what you're going to see from David Montgomery. So I'm willing to draft him on the hopes that, and his camp reports have been glowing as well. I mean, he has taken the health and the fitness to another level. Allegedly, if you're new to the show, I always talk about I love when running backs lose weight. I love when wide receivers gain weight. I don't.

Generally like when a running back says, oh, I'm going to bulk up and put on weight so I can make it through the season. We've just seen it change the athletic profile for players too many times. It takes away from that player what they are. But when a running back loses weight, they're in excellent shape. The hard part for forgiving David Montgomery is he was around the whole time. You can't point at an excuse really for David Montgomery other than...

he wasn't that good for fantasy. Like you said, the opportunities were there. He was there every game. He just had such little fantasy production that it's difficult to go back in. He's actually, for a player to get over 275 carries, this is something that Brad Evans pointed out. He basically had the lowest finish of any player. This is from Brad? Well, when he posted 275, that number, you generally finish inside that top 24.

It's a matter of them getting into the red zone. I mean, you have these players on bad, this is my fear for any of these bad offensive situations. You, three and out, three and out, three and out, no red zone opportunities, no inside the five opportunities. He's a tackle breaker. He was one of the best in football. He just has a mediocre offensive line and a bad quarterback situation, but I love knowing that he's going to get 275 to 300 opportunities.

Well, the good news for David Montgomery, obviously they bring in a new star player to the offense who's been tearing it up in camp, which should help the offense. Their star has been reportedly Jimmy Graham. So now that they've added Jimmy Graham to the Bears' offense, watch a goal line opportunities. And Colcombeck. Yes. For me, this is, look, people are wondering, is it Phillip Rivers? No, get P. River out of my life.

I'm not ready to forgive yet, but Zach Ertz was a player. You're not going to swim. Last year, I don't know if you guys remember. No, I'm not swimming in P. River, Mike. Not again. I don't know if you remember last year. Those of us who had Zach Kurtz do remember. But he really stunk the first half of last year. I mean, like, really bad. Six of the first eight weeks, he wasn't in the top 12.

That's a wasted pick at tight-in. It was a wasted pick. It was terrible. And you ever have one of those guys where you've got them for their bad stretch and you trade them and then they're great? That's what I experienced. And that hurts. It doesn't feel good. You actually did the opposite with Greg Olson a few years back. You watched him dominate the NFL and then traded for him for his bad stretch. Yes. So I did the same just in reverse order.

But I never forgave Greg Olson. I am forgiving Zachary. He's on our bathroom wall. He's, uh, Olson, yes. I hold grudges. Um, but with Zachert's, I've been rising on him. Uh, you know, the, the hairline thumb fracture for Goddard, the nebulous situation of the receiving core, the questionable health of Alshan Jeffrey and age of Deshaun Jackson. In the end, Zachertz is just going to be a really valuable tied in. And the nice thing is.

He keeps dropping. Every live draft that I'm doing, I just see Zackertz fall to the fifth. People don't want him. No, he's being disrespected. Yeah, he is. And I like that for my emotions and for, more importantly.

The value. So I'm back in on Zach Kurtz. And honestly, he's been one of my targets in the last few drafts I've been doing. So let's go. I think he's also feeling left out from the like bag of cash party that's going on with George Kittle and Travis Kelsey. Dallas Goddard came out today talking about how Zachers deserves an extension. He's in his contract year. I think he's got two years left. Oh, really? Okay. But that doesn't stop nobody.

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News and notes from Around the League. I have a note in here. Jason Moore, former co-host of the Fantasy Footballers podcast, was spotted in a bodybag Monday after two of his my guys were injured. He will be missed. A lot of people saying I'm trying to take your Reaper title. Ooh. Which is not one I want. I am happy to not have that, but it was not good news. Kenyon Drake spotted in a walking boot Monday. Tyler Lockett exited practice early. Thoughts?

Well, I tweeted my thoughts that someone needs to go protect Marquis Brown immediately. Who's actually the more injury prone of the three? Someone go keep him safe. Look, it's not what you want. Obviously, I want these players to be healthy. It's not what I can predict. That's one of the hardest parts of fantasy is you talk and you do the research and you do all the stuff and injuries.

You know, it's like you said with James Connor last year, you were all in. You didn't get to see it on the field. And both of these guys are presumed to be okay. They should be fine for week one. But I just don't like, you know, people are saying, oh, it's not, it's precautionary. But with Kenyon Drey, it's precautionary said. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Why aren't all of your players in a walking boot then? I mean, that's how I read it. I was like, wait.

Kenyon Drake said I'm good. Then he posts fingers crossed. What do you make of that, Jason? Do you know what this symbol means? It means I sure hope what I'm saying is true. Or I'm lying? Or I'm lying. Look, I hate to say it, but I was a believer that Chase Eminens was going to have a considerable role in this offense regardless. At this point, he should be an imperative for a Kenyon Drake, somebody who's rostering Drake because.