Breakouts + Players We Forgive, Surprise Offenses - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/25

much like the Miles Sanders news, if they have to come out and say he should maybe be ready for San Francisco the first week, what is the chance that Drake gets a full workload? Is there a chance that Sanders in that first week, Drake in that first week, at least just those weeks, doesn't get a full workload? I mean, how are you not looking at Edmonds the same way you would look at Madison in Minnesota? He's pretty close for me in terms of priority, draft priority. Chase Edmonds.

He's a great player. We saw what happened when he was the starting running back when David Johnson sort of was playing that one week except to turn into the Chase Edmonds show. So yes, Edmonds is, he is a priority later around running back for me, not necessarily that if I draft Alvin Cook, I am drafting Alexander Madison. I don't have that same conviction of if I draft Drake, I have to get Edmonds.

Is Madison the only one in that category in general for any of these insurance backups? Yeah, I'm not drafting backups because I would prefer to draft your backup. I want the opportunity at the ceiling. Stay away, man. Stay away. Tyler Lockett, exited practice early. Doesn't appear to be anything of grave concern. Ice up. Now, speaking of much healthier players, AJ Green resumed running on Monday. Congratulations, Andy. So just to be clear.

AJ Green running, Tyler Lockett, not running. I'm going to enjoy this one sweet, sweet five seconds of time in today's news and notes. DeAte Johnson, he's missed the last five days of practice. Steelers wide receiver, potential. Breakout candidate. He was the hot breakout candidate over the off season. Still is. Yeah, no, he still is just saying that this is. He has very little work with Ben Rothlisberger. So it's worth at least.

You know, noting that if he's missing a week here, he didn't really play with Big Ben last season, one game. Whereas Juju's now going into, you know, the third year with him. You just drafted Juju personally in a home league, Mike. I really hope Juj, who's the guy? You know, he's one of those, I think, just super talented players. And if Big Ben is back, I do believe Juju is going to have the break it.

The Steelers are wild. They're wild. There's two layers of questions. Do we get the AB-style 5,000 passing yards Big Ben offense? That's layer one. And then who's Big Ben's favorite guy, which should be juju if they can get some guys extended down the field, James Washington, take the top off, let juju work underneath. It's going to be interesting in Pittsburgh. All right, Tyrell Williams, diagnosed with a torn labrum.

He says he's going to attempt to play through it. That is not good news. He tried to play through some injury last year. Basically went into fantasy irrelevance. They've got Brian Edwards. They've got Henry Ruggs. They've got Hunter Renfro. They've got Darren Waller. Yeah, it is absolutely rookie time for the Las Vegas Raiders being the hugest bump up here is Brian Edwards, who has, we look for what's been dubbed the drumbeat.

in fantasy football of the you want the drum beat to be sustained and grow louder over time, over the off season, over training camp. And the player who has risen the most, like that beat is going. It has been Brian Edwards. This was before Tyrell Williams was, had the torn labrum in his shoulder. So now the opportunity is even greater for a player who has been impressing. Derek Carr has been gushing about Brian Edwards.

He has absolutely moved into that later round. You want to take a rookie wide receiver? Generally, it's not my favorite draft strategy. I don't like going after these rookies, especially this year is very bizarre. But like Jalen Rager, Jerry Judy, like Brian Edwards is reaching that category of, I'm willing to take my last positional pick on Brian Edwards and see what happens. I agree with you that he is the big beneficiary here of.

Tyrol Williams possibly being injured or hampered or slowed down by the shoulder, the question still remains on this team if you're taking a rookie wide receiver. Have you made the switch from rugs to Brian Edwards? Are you still taking rugs first? Huff. Man, it's probably, I think we, last time I answered this, I think it was still rugs. Yeah, it's still rugs for me. I still lean his rugs. You've got to go with the first round pick. I think I lean Edwards.

But I don't blame people for making the change. Andy, we seed the floor. Well, I just think that I want the volume shot, not the big play shot. I think Edwards is just bigger, faster, stronger, well, not faster. Not faster. Yeah, it's definitely not faster. Bigger, stronger, and more of a refined route tree. I think I would go that direction as a personal preference of what I want on my team. It depends on where, you know, where this guy factors into your wide receiver core, I think. I do want to remind people because we lose this completely with all of this.

Raiders talk and their opportunity. John Paulson tweeted earlier this month a reminder. Derek Carr finishes the number 15 fantasy quarterback last year. He lost Antonio Brown right before the season began. He lost Tyrell Williams during the season. They've added rugs. They've added Edwards. They have, you know, you saw what Rimfro did at the end of the year. Williams was really never right last year. I think Carr is interesting. I think...

He's ahead of Big Ben on my rankings. Wow. In a super flex, I can see Derek Carr being relevant as he is, I've said this before, he's my favorite target for a third quarterback because that's basically in the range where he's being drafted. He is being forgotten and left for dead. But, you know, he's had Michael Crabtree and Amari Cooper on the same team before. And he was an MVP candidate that year. He was an MVP, but not for fantasy. He's never been a quarterback won in fantasy. Yeah, he's never finished the year that way.

He has, Paulson also pointed out, severe home-away splits over the last two years for Derek Carr, 16 and a half fantasy points at home, and the idea that maybe with the COVID situation and the fan situation, he may, he may just not be as great on the road. All right, Alex Smith has not shown he's in a position to really challenge for the quarterback job, according to ESPN's John Kine. We'll see.

Yeah, we will see. I think obviously this team, if it's close, this team, I imagine, wants to go with the future of the franchise. Yeah, I would imagine they go with Haskins, give him every chance to either take the job or lose the job before they make the switch to Alex Smith. Before we get into today's breakouts, want to thank today's sponsor. Hello, Fresh. Hello. Hey.

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Practice after practice, the rookie is making non-rooky-like plays after running non-rooky-like routes and making non-rooky-like catches. I feel like I know who it has to be, but it could be, it could be two. It could be two guys. You have, you, please, please, please, you have to give it to me. It's Chase. Yes! Chase Claypool, baby. Let's go. All in on Chase. Just add another player to the mix.

I... That's good, man. Get juju back in that slot. Honestly, I was... I reached for Chase Claypool in our rookie draft. This is why I'm so excited. I took him knowing in my heart, like Chase Claypool is... He'll take some time because you had all the hull of blue. So out of Notre Dame, just a giant man off the charts athletically.

You're talking height, weight, and speed score is absolutely ridiculous for Chase Claypool. Lower production for, lower college production, because he's from the Notre Dame system. And I thought it would take some time. Do you consider James Washington to be a hit or a miss for the Steelers draft? I think we don't know yet. He is, he's the unsung hero right now. It's really important, Mike, because they go every other on hits.

with their wide receivers. Oh, then. So if he's a miss, Playpools a super star. Total bus. If he's a hit. Very scientific. All right. Breakout time. Breakouts. Breakouts, bus. Chase Claypool. Breakouts, bus, value sleepers this week on the show. We have done some early breakout pick shows back in June.

I am curious. I'm going to ask real quick before we get into, we each picked one for today. You can see all of our UDK breakouts at Ultimate DriveKit.com. In mid-June, Jason, Hollywood Brown, I feel like you are still on board. I would agree. He would be my pick today, except he's already a my guy, go back and listen to Thursday's episode. Mike, you had Daniel Jones. Are you still in from mid-June? Yes, I am. I had Rahim Mustard. Daniel yoked Jones.

Oh, you've yoked yourself together with him for this season. I know that. Are you still in on Rahim Moster? Yeah, I think so. I think so. Less so? A little bit less so. Is it the Jerich McKinnon? Yeah, I don't want more bodies back there. Getting handed the ball. But Moster's camp reports have compensated for that McKinnon hype. Moster's been one of the best players at 49ers camp. It does seem like he has taken the starting job, which was this.

Very bizarre. And paid. They did change this contract. But the anomaly of last year where Tevin Coleman was the starter every single week. And then the guy who was better was Rahim Moster. It's like the sixth man in the NBA is better than you're starting. But we need him to be the sixth man. Yeah, they're one of the teams that keep things very close to the vest as well. Like Kyle Shanahan values not putting things out into the media, which is going to be interesting to follow this year.

But yeah, I think I'm still in on it. I'm looking up at the, if you're watching on YouTube. There's a graphic up here. Oh, yeah. Got to break out. Mike and I are behind bars. I always think of the old arcade Atari game, breakout. I think of the Kool-Aid, man. I think that one actually makes the most sense. It's like, bam, I'm here now. What's up? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Do we have a.

Can we get the... Al Boylan, you're not on the... You don't have that intro voice ready, do you? Okay, he's shaking his head. No, he can't say no. No. He doesn't want to change our view of... Oh, yeah. All right. Breakout candidates. I'm not going first. Jason's going first. I'm going first. Oh, my. Oh, me. Oh, my.