Fantasy Football - Week 9 Studs & Duds + Emotional Takes, Monday Punday - Podcast for 11/3

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Cardboard bear extraordinary. He's pretty happy. Oh, pulling out a crazy win. I mean, I don't know that he's real happy with the whole game, but the ending. Well, he's not happy with the defense. No. That's for sure. No, and you know who's not happy with the defense? Cincinnati Bengals. Oh, brother. Did you see Chase Brown? Uh, no. No, I didn't. Did he, was he pretty upset? Uh, yeah, he was. Why? Because all they needed was. One stop. One stop. All they needed was to not give up more than 42 points. It was, man, that game was absolutely gnarly. Very, very fun for fantasy football. But welcome in, everyone. Before we get into the puns, we want to remind you, we are doing a giveaway. This is totally free. Footclan giveaway.com. We're giving away a signed James Cook jersey.

And all you got to do, go to Footlandgaveaway.com. There's a couple things you can do to help the show that take no time at all. And you get some entries to win a free James Coke jersey. Who has been awesome. I mean, even against the Kansas City Chiefs, the running back seven on the week, the running back four on the year is unstoppable. So there was some good. I mean, there was some. There was some. There was some. There was some terrible again. Oh, man, I, no. Yeah, did you forget for a minute? I had deleted it. Had the short-term memory loss of late last night's disgusting injuries. It was like our, our household. I was watching the game with my, my boy and my wife. And like, it got just the way the cam one got me, where you're just like, it like, the whole weekend then kind of felt deflated. But overall, it was a great weekend. For me, it got me visually.

I usually miss it. And when he went down, I thought he was- We're talking about Jane Daniels. Yeah, Jane Daniels. I thought he re-agravated that hamstring. Right. So I was watched. So then they showed the replay and I'm watching intently like to see where the- No, it's the arm. Yeah. Oh, it's, whoa. But we won't get into that. There was some good. There was some bad. And now we talk about it distinguished. Yes, Jason. Um, how about, oh, starting to hear this guy. Barack. Powers. Brock Wowsers. Yeah, but I'm going to go with a, whoa, flacco. Colston, Dublin. Got it done. That's Colston Dogland. Yeah, you wish. You wish. Caleb Thrilliams. Uh, Vic Torrey Horton. We got a, we got a Torrey Horton? I mean, he went off. Speaking of winning, Dalton win Kate. Drake Wondon. Drake Wondon. That was terrible. That's great. Drake Wondon.

That's all time. That's bad. We got Kyle Calabungi. Jackson Smith Ungardable. Or my dude, Rico, no doubtle. And T.D. Higgins. Unfortunately, we had Rome O'Goose Egg. Yeah, not good. D.K. Duky. Duky. Duky. Goodness gracious, D.K. How about Kamani Dandruff? Novi downs that soon there. Jordan Sadison. Yeah, or just right to the point. Tyler sucks. Yes, he does. Tyler sucks. I hate you very much. Throw the ball to Chris Oliva. Oh, my God. Jonathan Failure. Very disappointing for him. Chuba snubbard. Alvin Cantmara? Oh, man. And Tucker, ah. Because he's also in the, so I stick this button again to stop it?

Seems so. Okay, perfect. Yeah, you know, the injuries every week or most every week are bad. This is clearly one of the worst for fantasy. Like both Jayden Daniels and Tucker Kraft are league winning type of, you know, players. And so you lost a top five tight end and a top five quarterback in the same week. Some people had them on the same team. And that's probably feeling really bad. You could still win. Well, yeah, we're going to help get you there. We're just doing, you know, the old money catharsis. We got to react to the studs and duds. And we got some news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by progressive insurance. All right. If you missed it last week, it kind of, it was very unexpected. But Travis Hunter, superstar rookie, he was put on the. Is he? Is he a superstar? Potential.

Okay. How about that? Potential. I accept that a little bit more. Potential superstar. I mean, we just had the game. He had his breakout. We had the game. We got the bi-week. Then he gets hurt in practice, gets put right on the IR. It was a non-contact knee injury, which is almost always a torn ACL. They said the ACL was intact, but they did put him on IR. We don't know much here on the timeline. He obviously cannot play for four weeks, but the fact that he went on right away and it's a knee. He might not be back when the four weeks are up. The trade deadline is coming up. It is tomorrow. There's always a lot of smoke during the NFL trade deadline. This is often a situation where the smoke doesn't lead to fire or lead you to the fire. It's not like baseball's trade deadline. Or basketball. But sometimes, sometimes we get surprised. However, for the Jets, they are not planning to trade running back Brees Hall unless they...

Get an offer they can't refuse. Which they probably don't get. No, they probably do not. I mean, if you're out there in the trade market for a running back, you're looking to acquire one. I think there are other guys you would probably target ahead of. Because if you trade for Brees, you're giving up obviously an offer they can't refuse. So you're giving up like a three, which that's expensive. Then you're going to have to sign them. For a rental, yeah. Potential rental. You're only given up the three if you're going to sign them to a long-term deal. But if you were to go and get like Chuba Hubbard.

He's a good running back. He'll help a team, and he won't cost you much, although he does have a decent-sized contract in his own right. Man, the Panthers running back situation is so fascinating. That'll be a fun one to talk about. It's fascinating to me. Also fascinating, Jason. I mentioned this briefly on Sunday Live that the Cardinals have come out and they said they're starting Jacoby Brissette. However, Kyla Murray is listed as questionable, and Kyla Murray is definitely not getting benched. Right. But he might be active in the game. So he might just be on the bench. He might be healthy enough to play. Right. He's not getting bench. He's not getting bench. Just sit over there. But he won't play. On that seat. On the, maybe they'll bring him a chair. They bring a chair. You know, a little fold out. This is yours.

We call it a throne. You're getting thrown. You're not getting benched. You're just healthy enough to play, and we don't want you to play football for us. I mean, we've seen this a couple of times where it's not just a benching, where the clear-cut starter comes back, and he's kind of healthy enough to go. They would prefer him not to play, but in an emergency situation, he can be available. That might be what's happening here. I hope Tyler does play. It's just weird. Because Jacoby Brissette, who is the starter, I did it again, man. I did it a freaking another week in a row. What did you do? I, my, my opponent goes nuclear, frigate T. Higgins and Brock Bowers. This is a bad team who just went off on me. And now we are both projected for like, you know, about, you know, like certainly enough points to be in the, in the top few teams. And I am playing against Jacoby Berset. And he has a 22 point lead. And I got the CD DAC stack. I will, right now we are projected within a point of each other.

uh i will uh i'm gonna review the league of records people always want to know uh let's see i am projected for the most points josh could beat me josh has the second highest project projection and there uh then there's you jay yeah that number three and you might lose yeah again i so my last two weeks i have lost a combined two games by fewer than three points and now it looks like it's going to happen again this is it's insane yeah all right Injury news. Here we go. Tucker Kraft, he suffered a right knee injury. He did not come back. Honestly, when I saw it, I thought he just got, you know, like jammed in his knee. And so it was all he, you know, he's going to hobble off. We'll be all right. Nope, he went away. He did not come back. And now the initial fear is a torn ACL, which usually win.

That is an initial fear. It almost always comes true every now and then you get lucky and you escape. He's having an MRI today on his birthday. Happy birthday, Chuck. Have an MRI. We appreciate you, brother, and that stinks. Matthew Golden left with a shoulder injury. Jaden Daniels last night of the commanders. It was a dislocated left elbow. The x-rays were negative. He's doing an MRI today to determine if surgery will be necessary. I don't understand. I mean, I guess what that means is like. It was the bones were not broken, broken bones. But it's really hard to watch an arm in that direction and not think of it as a completely, like x-rays were negative. Like you go look again. But they'll have to do the MRI to see if any like tendons or anything tore. I've seen optimism. Yeah, there's, there are some. For as terrible as it looked, I've seen. X4 doctors saying that it's not even.

a guarantee that it would be a season ender. However, is insane. I think it will be a season ender simply because the commander's season looks to be over. It has been ended, yeah. I mean, they are already, they're only a three-win team right now. They have lost Terry McLaren. They have definitely lost the next mini games for Jaden Daniels. They also lost Luke McCaffrey to a broken collarbone last night. If you missed the news. Devo still has his heel issue. He's playing through. The, uh, yeah, they lost, uh, or Marshawn Lattimore on defense. They think he has a torn ACL. If you miss the news on Terry McLaurin, obviously you saw he wasn't playing last night. However, if you missed it, he's going to, we're expecting him to be held out through the week 12 by. So, man, just. Yeah, they're going to lose a couple more games here. And then at that point, you're not going to rush back your future of your franchise. Correct. To.

win a couple more games when you're not even competing for the playoffs potentially at that point. So I do see this as a season ender, which means big things for, you know, everyone else involved as well. Zach Ertz, playing with Marioota, has not been as good, you know, on and on. Rams wide receiver Pooka and Akua left in the second half yesterday with a rib slash chest injury. He returned to the sideline with his helmet. He did not go in. The quote from McVeigh on the injury, quote, I think he's going to be good. He got his ribs. He could have come back in the game, but we had, we kind of had command. He's just trying to be nice, but that's positive. Yeah. Because when you hear puka, puka is down, you freak out and you go, how many weeks? Mm-hmm. Hopefully it's not. And he just came back. It was like, and it was so nice. It was like, oh, yeah, I love having puka. He's very good. Back and then he was. Vikings running back Aaron Jones left the game with an AC joint sprain.

Initial belief is it's minor and he could play next week. That's TBD. He was playing pretty well. Looked good. Then we got some concussions. CJ Stroud took a nasty hit and then hit his head on the ground. Bears tied in, Cole Komet, back in, back out. Diami Brown for the Jags left with a concussion. Then Brian Thomas Jr. injured his left angle in the fourth quarter. Tried to return with it. Taped, but he sat out overtime, probably a high ankle sprain. So you could miss some weeks and all of a sudden Parker Washington becomes a fantasy star? Could be. It could be. I mean, he had a good game, you know, with Brian Thomas playing. Now it's like he's the last man standing. Somaget P. Ryan for the Bengals, he left with an ankle injury. They're going on by. But if he misses time, Chase Brown will be on a rocket ship of fantasy points. Kashon Booty for the Patriots. He left early with a hamstring injury.

And then Kyle Shanahan talking about Brock Purdy's toe injury. Quote, it's something that probably won't go, won't fully go away all year, regardless of when he comes back. He went on. What else did he say? Oh, Purdy was not that close to playing this week. So Shanahan is letting us know Purdy was not that close to playing this week. Now Shanahan is, we haven't believed anything. Right. Brock has been told where he's close to coming back every single week. Now all of a sudden we're saying he's not close? I don't believe you. If he plays this week, we just know do whatever, the opposite of whatever Shaneahan says. Yeah, the fact that we are now at five missed games for Brock Purdy means that the 49ers didn't know what they were dealing with. Because you don't put your, you put him on IR. Like you give him the time, you create the flexibility in your schedule. Seems like some things have gotten worse along the way. And obviously he was injured. He came back in week four.

And that made it way, way, way worse. So I think they are saying, we want him for the playoffs. Right. The NFL playoffs. So if we could give him an extra month on top of everything just to make sure he's okay when he comes back and doesn't reagravate it, the better. And they're still winning games. I mean, they, you know, it was closer than it shouldn't have been. McCaffrey. But they won this week. So, yeah, I mean, I. It's a bummer that we don't have Purdy yet. I know Kittles missing. George Kittle is the player for sure where you're like, will he get unlocked without Brock Purdy? Brock Purdy loves throwing to George Kittles, especially touchdowns. That was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at progressive.com progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms limits and conditions. Let's talk about them.

Studs. This week's fantasy stud muffins presented by Lowe's. Caleb Williams, goodness gracious, 280 and 3, 5 for 53 on the ground, and two receptions, including a receiving touchdown. I think they ran the Philly special as well. It looked like, oh my goodness, and we'll just combo this in because it was the same game. My dude, Joe Flacco. You've been very, very, very bullish on Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco, it was, I knew when I was talking about it was, are you willing to accept the risk of the shoulder? If you did, you were rewarded with currently the number two fantasy quarterback on the week. 31 of 47 for 470 yards and four touchdowns.

That was 470 was Joe Flacko's career high in a single game. This game was awesome for what I like. It was awesome for what everybody likes except for Bengals fans. I mean, this was. I mean, Bears, you don't want to see your defense do that to Joe Flackle. Just back and forth. You know, it looked like the Bengals were going to destroy Joe threw touchdowns early and often and just got off to this blazing start. Then the Bears battle back. Then they, then they take a massive lead and you're like, oh, the Bears just destroyed. Just destroyed the Bengals. And then the Bengals, we, you, he threw a touchdown late in that game.

And you were like, oh, that is the stinkiest garbage. You were playing Flacco in our league of record. And you're like, oh, delicious, how stinky that garbage time touchdown is. And then they came back and took the lead. So it wasn't garbage time at all. Is Kyle on the mic? Do we have him here? Kyle, I don't know if you can help me confirm this. I think they scored two touchdowns in like 59 seconds. It was absurd because they got the onset kick. But that game was great. Bye week. Kyle's going to look real quick. But it's a bye week for Flacco. Good. Rest up that shoulder after throwing for 47 times with a sprained joint. Caleb Williams gets the Giants next week. Josh Allen, ho-hum. He good. Another good game. He's 5-1 versus Mahomes in the regular season. He's going to want to fix that in the playoffs. Justin Herbert. This game was weird.

Like, this one, there was a couple games, as they do every week, there's a couple games where you just, this does not go anywhere near what it should on paper or what you expected. The, oh, the Bengals, it was 49 seconds. I apologize for the Bengals two touchdowns. Justin Herbert against Tennessee starts this game basically with a pick six. Then Tennessee has a, what was a punt return? Yeah, they scored. Turned by, I think it was a DK. They scored on defense. They scored on special teams and they basically didn't score on offense. Yes. And then that turned into a negative game script. Justin Herbert, 250 and 2. He also had 57 rushing yards and a rushing touchdown. Yeah, he looked, he looked great and all the receiving options. I mean, it's what we expect what we have been saying, like with Quentin Johnson getting the touchdown. It's like you're just, you need to play all of the.

Chargers, receivers, and no, sometimes it will go bad. It will be a goose every now and then. Now, if you can't handle that on your roster, if your roster's not built that way, then look for a Parker Washington who won't goose but won't have the ability to put up 25 points in a game. These chargers are guys I want in my lineup. Jackson Dart, the rookie continues. 191 and 2 through the air, 8 for 56 and a rushing touchdown on the ground. He is averaging. Almost nine fantasy points per game by just on the ground. And he is the quarterback three in total fantasy points since becoming the starter in week four. Yeah, he's averaging 22.3 fantasy points per game. It's been awesome. And he has no weapons. You know, he's lost everyone. Darius Slate, and I still think is a good play on a weekly basis right now. And darts getting it done on the ground so much. He has.

four of his six games where he has rushed for more than 50 yards on the ground that's a touchdown you know so it's more than a touchdown in four point leagues uh you mr dart please stop getting hit so hard oh i know there were there were a couple it will catch you like do you can't you can't play this way for a long you got to pick and choose when you're going to take the hit and he chooses the hit every time right now sam darnald This was absurd against the Washington commanders last night. He ends 330 and four passing touchdowns. But it was just perfection. He only had three incompletions. He did have one pick. But he played incredible near perfect football last night. He played such good football that he was only the quarterback five on the week because they just destroyed them and, you know.

they didn't need to throw the ball any more in the second it was all in the it was like by half time i think he had four passing touchdowns and no incompletions every time they got the ball it was like check this out let me uh throw the ball perfectly in stride for touchdowns to everyone tory horton jsn everyone got involved it was a real prime time show matthew stafford 281 and four He leads the NFL with 21 passing touchdowns. He's one of five quarterbacks since the year 2000 with a touchdown to interception ratio of 21 to 2 or better through the first eight games. He's playing incredible. He was a, I would say a difficult start, but it was like the kind of start where you're a 14 point favorite. Do you actually get a ceiling game? And we did. And it was everyone. Stafford, four passing touchdowns.

Currently the running back four on the week. It was like everybody, everybody was eating in the Rams game. And still, still, Devante Adams, around the goal line. Yep. It's just like it's automatic. How do you not, I feel like you've got to put two guys at the line wherever Devante Adams is, which you kid do. And then Kyron will just walk in. Gino Smith. Maybe this was just a Brock Bowers problem. Or Brock Bowers solution. Because Brock Bowers. Holy crap. I. I can't believe I had to play against Brock Bowers. But Gino ended 284 and 4 in the game against Jacksonville. He's playing Denver next week. Good luck. Lamar was awesome on Thursday. And then Michael Pennix had three touchdowns. Yeah, it was all right. Drake London. There were some weird play calling choices by the Falcons this week. That was another weird games. They were just very, the Patriots just dominated the Falcons, just completely.

you know, looked like they were going to obliterate them, controlled everything, and then lost the game. Yeah, yeah, because of bad play calling, honestly. All right, we're going to take a quick break and we'll be back. We're going to talk some running backs. Number one on the week, Christian McCaffrey. I mean, 28 for 106 with touchdown, 5 for 67 with a touchdown through the air. He's the 49ers. He has the seventh most receiving yards in the NFL. He's a running back. This year has been unbelievable. Rico Dowdle. Oh, man. Holy crap. The eunuch. We were watched. So if you. People are. Yeah, people are like, what the eunuch? So doubtle in that game. Oh, man. He was dealing with a groin injury already. And he had two different times in that game where it was. He tore it. He ripped it again. Yep.

He was down on the field. He's holding his groin and just really hurting. And then it's like, wow, he's going to miss some time. He's probably not back next week. I was lamenting because he was already looking awesome. Yeah. And then he went, he was in clear pain, jogs off. And it's like, oh my gosh, the Panthers finally do the right thing. Yeah. Rico's the starter. We're done with this splitting with Chuba. We're just going to play the best guy. And now he's gone. Groin injury. Wait a minute. It's like two place later. Yeah, he's back in there. He's awesome. That was number five. Rico is playing through this. And then it happened again. And he's like, so he's got no groins left. He cares. Nothing left to tear. And he doesn't care. I mean, Rico got that dog in him for sure. Oh, yes, he does. He just doesn't have a groin. That's why he's the unit. But man, he was 20, 25 for 130 and 2 against the Green Bay Packers. Maybe Rico Dattle is very, very good.

The Chicago Bears, dude, do, do, do. My non guy, boo, Kyle Monongai. Seventh round rookie running back gets the start, gets it at the perfect time. Against the Cincinnati Bengals goes 26 for 176. Three receptions for 22 yards. Did everything but score. What a game. And Kyle has a note here. Here's seventh round rookie running backs with 30 or more touches in a game since 1987. We had one in 1989 by the name of Marion Butts, who played for at the time the San Diego Chargers, 1990, Johnny Johnson. For the Phoenix Cardinals. That's also an incredible. With what, these names. Johnny Johnson, Mary Ann Aron. But Johnny Johnson and Kyle Monongai? That's, dude, those are some names right there. But there will be discussed. I don't think, I'm not on the side of that Munangai just stole.

DeAndre Swift's job. Swift has been playing awesome. This is a team that I think wants to institute what we saw in Detroit, where you've got Gibbs and Monty, and it looks like they've got like a Gibbs Light and a Monty Light. I mean, to hit on Monty Light in the seventh round. But also, do not get ahead of ourselves because this was the Bengals defense. Sure. And they're awful. I mean, they are very bad, yeah. They are diaper. They made Justin Fields look good. Yeah. Just a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, the man, the Bengals defense is just so fun. Josh Jacobs. He scores. He scores pretty much every week. Kyron Williams, the fears of Blake. It was weird. It was a lot of Blake Corum. Yeah, Corum had a, I don't know. I feel like he had a good game. But Kyron was 25 for 114 in a score. He did not have a reception, but he continued to get it done.

Yeah, he was, uh, Blake Corum got 13 carries for 58 yards, four and a half a clip. That's, he looked good. He had some good tackle break. Everybody for the Rams looked good. Puka was fine. Devante Adams was fine. Stafford was great. Cairn. Ashton Gentie. He came through with a good week. The 13 for 42. That's what I expected on the ground. I was a little nervous about Gentie. But then five receptions for 47 yards and a touchdown. 91% of the snaps. A season high. So while Jacksonville was able to shut him down on the ground, they got beat through the air. Jalen Warren touched down his way to being a top fantasy option. Chase Brown, it still continues to work for him while Joe Flacco was there because 14 targets. Come on. 14 targets. 14 targets for a running back. Because they know what they're, because it's 11 for 37 on the ground, man. Like it wasn't going.