Fantasy Football - Week 9 Studs & Duds + Emotional Takes, Monday Punday - Podcast for 11/3

And Joe, they're running through the air. Yeah, well, the thing is, is Joe's got the bum shoulder. He can't move in the pocket very much, not quickly enough. And they've got a bad offensive line. So it's snap the ball, get it up. Snap the ball, get it. The easiest way to protect your quarterback is to throw to the running back, not have the running back sit there and try to pass protect. Right. RJ Harvey, he scored through the air again. It was five targets for 51 yards and a score. Yeah, this was, not a funnel utilization. We talked about like this is a trap.

Last week's breakout was a trap because he didn't play that many snaps, didn't get that involved. He just, he was playing against the Dallas Cowboys defense. Another one of those, be careful. And then he ended up with a good, like a really good game simply because he caught that touchdown. But he, you know, he had two carries. He had two carries in the game. This was not, oh, he took over. He's still playing the vast minority of snaps. Travis ETN, Jason, your start of the week, 22 for 84 on the ground, 5 for 31 through the air. Should have been so much better. Per Ian Hartett's friend of the show. Travis ETN got tackled at the one yard line five times. Five times. Over the course of three different drives and he scored zero touchdowns. He could have had three Russian touchdowns. And it wasn't like he was playing. Sheesh. Bad. Right. He was playing really, really good. He got him down to the one yard line.

Several times. Yeah. And then they're like, we got to get the Toot Man in. What's funny is when the Toot Man got in, I allow it in my heart because E.TN got two carries ahead of him on the goal line. It didn't work. Gotcha. And then E. But what was a shame to me was when E.T.N. was given the ball. It was like jumbo, like stack the box and then try to run. We're high tea. We're going to be men. Let's spread it out. Get Tooting back there. Still hand it up straight up the middle. But it's like, oh, look how much easier it was for him. I prefer that. I mean, there's a couple running backs where if you want to go heavy, jumbo, we're stronger man than you. Yeah. Or certain O lines. Yeah, yeah. That's fine for some of them. For the vast majority, though, spread it out. Get players out of the box and then run for a yard. It seems to work a lot better. Wide receivers. Drake London. He was force fed. He got three receiving touchdowns and 118 yards.

T. Higgins, nine targets, seven for 121 and two. It's really funny when we go through these studs. Like, Drake London, amazing game. I had him. He was great. T. Higgins, terrible game. I played against him, and he was great. The emotional, like, man, so upset that T had that monster game. One of his touchdowns, I mean, it'll be a highlight for the year. It was a great, you know, fully outstretched arms. manages to tap the ball to himself. It was a great touchdown. Jamar Chase still had six for a 111, but T. Higgins. It's almost like Chase needs to be in the pooped in your pants segment with 111 yards. Like you're really disappointed that he only had six for 111. DeVante Adams and Puka Nakua were both excellent for Fantasy Adams. Another two touchdowns. Puka did score. He got a receiving touchdown. Which is.

That's wild. That's rare. When Pooker gets those, you know you're going to have a great week. Torrey Horton, rookie for the Seattle Seahawks. He was one of our official dynasty nasty boys of the summer. Four for 48 and two. He had the opportunity because Cooper Cup was out. And we'll see. Tori Horton is made. We'll see if you can put the genie back in the lamp. He's made a lot of plays this year. Not all of them show up on your normal box score because they've been in special teams. His return game, he's got. touchdowns there. But even, you know, I mean, that is his fifth touchdown on the season. We're halfway through the year in his rookie season. He has certainly shown that he's like he belongs. Yes, exactly. He belongs here. And so going forward, you know, maybe from a dynasty perspective, but maybe even a redraft, you know, normal league going forward if as Cooper Cup gets older every day.

Tori Horton, if he gets the opportunity, I think he'll make the most of it. JSN continues his reign of terror upon the NFL 8 for 129. Pop Douglas, he was the Patriots wide receiver of choice this week. Man, that booty injury was booty because I think he was started in the vast majority leagues. I started him in two different leagues. He had been really, really involved. And obviously, Drake May went out, had a very good game. um had a touchdown to pop douglas had a touchdown to digs and you just never know how it would have gone if booty got to play dj more comes through with one of the weirder games four for 72 through the air one for 17 and a touchdown on the ground and then he threw a touchdown yeah okay i mean he probably did that on a lot of benches out there uh rishi rice four for 80 he had a rushing touchdown

He's just seemed like another one of those weirdly disappointing games. Sure. Like he's, he was very good. But it was like, yeah, I wanted more. Of course. The Colts game. That was one of the upside downs. The Pittsburgh Steelers defense decided they were good again. They are Jekyll and Hyde, man. They've had a couple of really outstanding defensive performances. And then the others are like, target this team. Yeah. So that game. Went completely upside down. It was all turnovers. I expected the Colts to be up and then we would get the, we'd get some points then from the Steelers as they try to catch up. It was Jonathan Taylor. It was the opposite. Jonathan Taylor having a monster game. Instead, it was Daniel Jones having to throw the ball. I think they turned the ball over five times. Yeah, Daniel Jones had a poor NFL game.

Yeah. Let's see. For fantasy, he was... He's still the QB12 in fantasy. He was okay. Because he had to throw the ball 50 times. Right. You don't usually have as many interceptions as he had and then end of the day without a disastrous score. But he was all right. Michael Pittman Jr. My start of the week this week was awesome. Nine for 115 on 12 targets. Alec Pierce, 115 yards. I mean, they had to throw it a lot. Alec Pierce. I mean, he's been... coming up a lot on this show, but it's just, let's, uh, I think, I think Alec Pierce needs more respect than we actually give him. Ammon Ross St. Brown, great game. Jameson Williams, four six. Hey, touchdown. He's alive. Hey, hey, after the, uh, hey, squeaky wheel, you know, the narrative that the coach was talking about it at the tight end position. Welcome back, Brock Bowers, 12 for 12, 127 and three. Yeah, the three was three darts was two.

much for me. It was funny because, so Brock was my start of the week and the first touchdown. I was like, yes, that's awesome. He was good. Now, no more. And then he was just getting started. Goodness gracious, was he good. I mean, 12 of 13 targets received, 127 yards. He was the exact guy we saw week one when he was healthy, who we saw rookie year, who is. Probably the tight end one rest of season. Yep. He looked very healthy and ready to go. And your start of the week, Colston Loveland. Colston Loveland had himself a very good game. And then the final target turned into Dogston Dogland. I will say this. Huge applause. He tried to downplay what happened. Because he did, he broke his first tackle. And it was. He broke two.

on a walk-off gigantic touchdown. It was awesome. It was awesome. That was a dog. I mean, those tackles were, they were pretty. What? No wrap up just trying to hit a guy. Yeah, but that's the whole point. If you, if you are, Mesa Taylor, Mesa Taylor explodes into pieces after getting hit on like that. Yeah, all right. Look, I don't want to denigrate an awesome game. He looked great. I mean, we talked about this. When we talked about him in the start of the week segment. It was like, he is a very good play this week. The Bengals were the team to target for tight ends. They have allowed 12 touchdowns to the tight end position. Crazy. No other team has allowed more than six. Yeah. So it is very awesome to see and you are hopeful that this is the beginning of the new norm for him being very involved. It's tough. Like I probably won't start him next week.

depending, I mean, depending on Cole Commet. If Colquette is out, then he would be in play. Colquette left this game with a concussion, and so that was helpful to him. The Bengals were helpful to him, both on offense and on defense, because they kept having to throw the ball, even, you know, last second walkoff. What an exciting game, but I'm optimistic, but I'm not going to flip the switch that it's an every week's start. Dalton Kincaid, the post-hype sleeper run. He seems like he should be in every week's start. Yeah. I, you know, I keep pushing back and be like, the dude's playing half the time. He's not out there running a full allotment of routes. And yet he keeps getting it done. You would have.

Two weeks that you have started in that you'd be bumped. Which and the other ones, you're very, very happy. Yeah, and at that position, I mean, you're, you're hoping for 50% of your games you're happy with a tight end. This is, he's, he is the number one best receiver for Josh Allen. And I think that's pretty much all you've got to know. Yep, I think that is true. Sam Leporta, six for 97 and an absolute dog of touchdown. Dog touchdown. If you did not see it. It was San Laporte. It was awesome. I mean, a huge... You can't tackle me is what he said. Huge breakaway run. Obviously, look, he's big tight in. He's not faster than everyone, so he does get caught near the goal line. I think it was three defenders start trying to bring him down, but he keeps fighting. He smelled the end zone, man. Like a dog. He smelled that food and was like, extra juice flowed through his veins. And he fought off the tackles long enough for the...

for the other players on his team to catch up and push him in. It was a great touchdown. It was very fun. Mark Andrews caught two passes on Thursday night. Yeah, baby. Mark Andrews had two touchdowns on Thursday night. Dalton Schultz, six for 77. He got a slowest man alive, but he got it done. Travis Kelsey was, oh man. Travis Kelsey's in the stud section. Yeah, he shouldn't be. She. I mean, you know, some weeks, like he's the tight end eight right now. So he can't be too disappointed of the players that most people played. You're okay. You might outscored your opponent. But four for 66 is just mid. And Joanne Johnson, he caught a touchdown from Tyler Shucks, Chuck. Man, I got Tyler sucks in my head. I need. I'm sorry, Tyler. You need what?

Oh, Shahid? I need him traded because Olave had his season low. We won't be talking about him. Is he in the duds? He's got to be in the duds. I guess he is. All right, quick break. And then the duds. This episode is brought to you by prize picks. The weather might be changing, but the feeling of being right never gets old. And right now on prize picks, you can get $50 instantly in lineups when you play your first $5. PrizePix is the only app that offers stacks, meaning you can pick the same player up to three times in the same lineup. You like Josh Allen this week? How much? More on passing yards, more on rush yards, more on touchdowns. Well, you can do that, but only on prize picks. And now they have a new feed tab where you can go follow your friends. You know, you can directly...

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pooped in his big boy pants. Well, well, well, Patrick Mahomes. The mighty have fallen for a week. This is an interesting stat. Josh Allen recorded his highest completion percentage of his career in the same game that Patrick Mahomes recorded the lowest completion percentage of his career, 88% to 44%. Literally, he doubled up Patrick Mahomes. Buffalo got the win and did just outplay the Chiefs? Jordan Love, Jason. It didn't work. Yeah, that's what I get. You didn't see the mighty Carolina Panthers. Oh, dude, the Carolina Panthers. Showing up to hold Jordan Love to 26 for 273. You know, it's funny. I don't want to overstate or understate what we're seeing from Carolina, but we need to at least question our priors and see them as maybe a good team.

The Panthers? The Panthers. I mean, if you look, when Bryce Young has started, they've won their last four games. One of them was against Dallas. This one against Green Bay in Lambo. Now that they've got a running game that is- I was going to say, what are the- What's the correlation with Rico Dowdle being the dude? I mean, it makes sense. It's going to keep your defense off the field. It's going to open up the passing game. So this is, you know, coming up the next two games, New Orleans and Atlanta. Two very winnable games. You could have a team that looks like they're playoff bound here. So give him credit. Rico Dowdell, off of his thousand-yard season with Dallas Cowboys, was forced into signing a one-year backup deal for the Carolina Panthers. Where he was forced to become the starter because he was, Rico, no doubtle. Daniel Jones, it's, I mean, you got to talk about it because he had a really bad game. He still.

Sort of came through for fantasy football, but it was horrific. Weeks one through eight, three turnovers. That's what Daniel Jones has caused or allowed, I should say. Week nine, three turnovers. You know what's crazy about Daniel Jones? He's been so good this year. Was it only? I thought it was, I thought it was more. I thought it was four. He lost a fumble. So maybe it was just four turnovers. He had three interceptions. And I mean, he's credited for three fumbles. I don't remember how many he fully lost, at least one. Yeah. The sad thing with Daniel Jones so far this year, and it's been good for all the receivers, it's been good for the offense. So I'm not too upset about it, but it's worth noting he's not running the ball. Like he's on pace over the entire season, he would be on a 17-game pace of 170 rushing yards. Right. I mean, Daniel Jones has always been a true dual threat up. You know, he's running for 500 yards. You know, you see what like Drake May and Bo Nix have been doing with their legs. That's what we've always.

historically seeing Daniel Jones do, maybe now that he's got an offensive line that can protect him and he can actually be more of a pocket passer, or he's just older. The running back position, the Colts failed, so Jonathan Taylor failed, 14 carries for 45 yards. This was a big time bummer. His longest rush was only nine yards. He does get to take on the Atlanta Falcons next week. We will see. Alvin Camara, sheesh, from Nick Underhill, the Saints. had a time of possession of 16 minutes and 7 seconds. That was the 13th lowest in NFL history. It was not the debut that the Saints were hoping for for their second round rookie quarterback. Jamir Gibbs, nine for 25, only three catches for three yards. Yeah, that was a really disappointing one. It's the fewest yards from scrimmage in a game in his career. Yeah, I mean, when I looked after the game, you know, because I was watching it live, obviously.

David Montgomery was on my bench. He gets attached. I was like, okay, whatever. And then when I looked after the game, I was like, I did not realize how bad Jemir Gibbs was. He was, that was really disappointing. 28 total, total yards. And speaking of disappointments, Kamani Vidal against the Tennessee Titans, after what he had been doing, 12 for 30, one target, no receptions. This one was. my biggest whiff, my biggest disappointment of the week. I thought Vidal was going to smash in this situation against the Tennessee Titans, but their defense showed up. They rallied a bit there. I mean, they charges still won, but very, very disappointing and bummer of a game there for Kamani Vidal Sassoon. And it really-Dandruff or whatever. Yeah, it was disappointing too because I felt like I don't have the data, the snap percentages in front of me, Kyle. Maybe you can look it up, but they were.

I felt like they were getting other guys involved, whereas the previous week when Vidal went off. I'm guessing it's because Vidal was not being effective. Yeah, possibly. Let's see. Who else we got? The Texans guys, they're on here as well. Yeah, both Woody Marks, Nick Chubb. J.K. Dobbins was a bummer. We were kind of worried about him against Houston, but... It was even worse than we thought it was going to be 15 for 61. Yeah, the Texans defense, they are one of the best in the league and you have to change expectations when going into that matchup. The Broncos sneaked out a last second victory there, but it was just like we talked about. We said on that matchup, this is a game where the winner of the game, walking away with the W might not have 20 points scored.

and the game went down 18 to 15. So Kyle pulled it up. Vidal was 72% of the snaps. Oh, wow. He was still on the field. Jared Patterson, I know, was like he had to play a third of the snaps, but maybe it was just Vidal sucking. Zach Charbonnet, eight for 25, one for 21. Walker did play way more snaps this week over Zach Charbonnet. They only gave him the ball 11 times on the ground, 11 for 42. Two targets for 19 yards. A weird game. Jacori Kroski Merritt. Oh boy. I don't know how you can start him. Yeah. I mean, especially going forward now with your implied team totals are going to be much lower with Mario da there. This is a player who has fully punked everybody. I mean. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Week one.

coming out being the RB 11 and then having, you know, the trade. And it's like, this is his team. He has juice. He's the reason we made the trade, then the Echler injury. I mean, everything opportunity wise has lined up for him to be there. He hasn't missed a game. He's played, you know, as essentially a starter the whole season. Maybe Chris Rodriguez gets the first touch. But we've seen bigger games from McNichols. And Bill has, I mean, he's, he's. on pace for over 200 opportunities, and he's scoring eight fantasy points a game. Yeah. He's not in here, but I'm going to bring his name up because I'm sure people just want to hear the conversation. Trayvion Henderson, 14. He had 20 opportunities. I said, I want to see a game with 15 opportunities. 14 for 55. Oh, all right. I mean, it's on brand. Yeah, it's on brand. So it's 3.9. Four for 32 through the air. So, I mean.

In terms of yardage, he was, what, 87 yards from scrimmage, no touchdowns. Here's the truth. We're not excited, but it was totally acceptable. Like 10.5 fantasy points is our barometer for running back and a half PPR to consider a good game. He was 10.7 fantasy points. So it wasn't special, but it was fine. He didn't hurt you if you started him. Um, he played 75% of the snaps. Terrell Jennings played 25% percent of the snaps. Oh, unfortunately for us who played Hendo, it was, Jennings was up and he had two good runs, including one turning into, uh, I mean, he, when they, I'm not saying he only had two good plays. I was just like he had a good run to set them up and then he took it in. I think it was like a.

10-yard run or so for a touchdown, if I remember. No, the touchdown was inside the five. It was more of a goal line carry. That was what was disappointing to me is they only had one. You're right. It was only a three-yard carry. They only had one rush attempt inside the five. And it happened to go to Jennings. And so that's really disappointing if, you know, if Trayvion Henderson is getting 75% of the snaps, but he's not getting the goal line work in this world, that's disappointing. I don't think it is. prescriptive yet to know that the one carry that they had inside the five just happened like he could have just been the running back on the field on that drive um so so in terms of fantasy it's unfortunate because neither side gets to boomshakalaka right yeah you want the henderson traitors are like no one can no one can dunk here he's like he's a good game he didn't get the an he got the snaps so

He got 10 and a half fantasy points. So Vrable got us again. He got us again. Because I, I wanted nothing more than to just be a monster game and come in here, rip the shirt off, bang the chest, be like I told you. Or just get it over with. Yeah. Like, let me know that Travion will not be the guy. Take, but he was the guy. Yeah. Yeah, it was weird. You know who was not the guy, Jason, at the wide receiver position. Rome O'Dunesay. So weird, full goose in a game that had 800,000 points. His quarterback is the QB1 on the week. He had an end zone target that was just slightly behind him. So a little disappointing. I'm not. So this is three out of the last four weeks where he's been disappointing, where he has not scored five fantasy points in three of the last four weeks, four weeks ago before that was their by week. So coming out of the by,

He has been extremely disappointing. I am fully committed to Roma Dunezay still being the primary wide receiver on this team. Okay. You know. Not worried about doxton dog lands coming in? I'm certainly not worried about dogs and dog land being the reason. There's been a couple missed cues, a couple missed touchdowns that were that were there for O'Donzee. He's playing 95 plus percent of the snaps. I mean, he is being utilized as the one. We talk about when you're in small stretches of games, you feel like it is forever. But at the end of the season, in the off season, when we talk about these players and you look back at their game logs of great players, of A.J. Brown, of whoever, unless you're like the wide receiver one like Jamar Chase last year, everyone has a bunch of complete disaster games at the wide receiver position. It sucks to be a zero, though.

Yeah, I mean, it does. It does. But especially in that game, 47 to 42 and a full goose. D.K. Metcalf. I would personally, you know, I would offer a cheap, crappy trade offer for O'Donzee. Yeah, I still want Roma on the team. D.K. Metcalfe, this was the spot. And then the game turned upside down. And D.K. Metcalf was a non-factor. He caught two passes. Was that really what two passes for six yards? Yeah. Goodness gracious. He had two targets inside the five, and he ends up with two for six. Disgusting. You hate him. Yes, I do, because I've never been a DK Metcalf guy. And then you drafted him. I, well, I, like, I understood the process, and I understand that I'm wrong on players. It happens. And.

Aaron Rogers, number one wide receiver always gets peppered with targets. Not DK Metcalf. I mean. Not the hundred plus million dollars or whatever they gave him and the draft picks they gave up. And there's, it's weird, man. It's what I'm saying. It's weird. He's still been pretty good for being good on the season. I know, but you get him in a smash spot right here and he gives you six yards. It's disgusting. The Chargers, Ladd-McConkey, Keenan Allen, they were the ones who took the turn to have the bad week. Gadsden and Q had good weeks. Brian Thomas Jr. Didn't have to worry about potential superstar Travis Hunter to take targets away from him. This one. This one is disgusting. This one is disgusting. This is 59 points scored in the game between the Raiders and the Jags. Beautiful. You love that. This is game script was great.