MEGALODON Episode - Week 13 Matchups, Turkey Day Awards & More! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/27

in those four games. Yeah, I mean, well, he finished 24-51, 2019. You had the abomination where Cooper Rush. I mean, 51 was a full allotment of snaps in that game. Yeah. Do you have the number? Yeah, I've got the number. He's the wide receiver 22. Okay. Okay. Still playing. Uh, any other options in this game? Scoot-Man. I mean, Scoot-Man. Ferguson has been a DNP over the week. I would expect it'll be Schoonmaker again. It's not, look. The Giants are a bad matchup. Yeah, it's a bad matchup. But, I mean, like, desperate times, it could be worse. That's what I'll say for Schoonmaker. Yeah. Would you play Schoonmaker or Sam Leporta? I would go Leporta. I'd still play Leporta. The Miami Dolphins are 5 and 6 and travel to Green Bay to take on the Packers in Lambo, 8 and 3. A fun Thanksgiving Lambo game here. Drafking Sportsbook Line Green Bay minus three and a half. The overrunner is 47. This is.

This is an interesting game to me. Miami really needs this game. The line is not huge, three and a half. We have, you know, a couple of teams that have been a little bit schizophrenic on offense at times this year. Josh Jacobs went crazy last week. You know, is that the recipe to success you're going to see again this week from the Packers' offense? Because the dolphins, especially in the last six weeks, have been much better against the run. than they were to start the year. They're 22nd on the year, but they're sixth over the last six weeks. And this is the time of year. You've got to look at smaller sample sizes in the games play. Yeah, for sure. You also have some weather here. There's going to be a very cold night game chance for some snow. So Lambo Thanksgiving. I mean, NFL-wise, this is exciting. This is a fun game. I wish my family was gone and I had jack in the box.

And an empty house. I'll let you know how it goes. We are obviously based on our hungry for more. We're really hopeful that this is an offensive. Yeah, you are. You know, Andy wants a great game from two. I want a great game from Jordan Love because this on primetime Thursday night could be a really special outing if these offenses come to play. But with the cold weather, the both defenses being. pretty good, the run game of Josh Jacobs and potential snow. This has a wide range of outcomes. I agree. And I hope, you know, the overrunner is 47. So that leans itself into the, we're going to get points on the board and the offense for, you know, we talked about it all in the beginning of the show. You talked about Jordan Love's season pace. We talked about how Tua's been playing. So, you know, A. Chan, we know is a lock when he plays with Tua.

They are a machine. Now why he wanted to stop at 24 yards last week, nobody's going to know. Maybe he heard the show. So I'll show you. Jalen Waddle, are we chasing? 8 for 1, 44 in a touchdown. Nine targets is a big number. You know, if you're playing Hill over Waddle? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, you are. You're still playing Hill over Waddle. And you're playing Waddle over Johnny? The fact that you can. I don't know about that. Is the kind of roulette here? Are you playing Dolphins roulette at this point? A little bit. It feels that way. A little bit, but I think the safest option is Johnny, which is my frustration. Like, that is why I don't like it. You don't want to have to say that sentence. That's what makes you feel gross. 100%. Johnu should not be the safest. He should not be the safest option on a team with Tyree Kill and Jalen Waddle. You know, really on both sides of the ball, there aren't safe options in the wide receiver rooms.

No, I mean. Like, Jaden Reed. Jaden Reed could have an excellent game. We know his potential, but he's had more lousy games than good games recently. I mean, you go back all the way to week seven. He has one game with double digit fantasy points since that time. You know, this is a player who's often out on the field about 50% of the time. You can start him. because he's also a player that can go out there and get two touchdowns, but it's complete roulette on that side of the ball. So are you going, like, Romeo Dobbs is the, he's like the full-time guy. Like, I mean, it's been up and down recently because of some injury stuff, but he's the one who's out there all the time, you know, includes running plays and things like that. So who is now hurt?

Yeah, Romeo Dobbs. I just want to say that out loud again, just so people understand. That's where we're getting with. Romeo Dobbs will be missing the game with a concussion. So Christian Watson, like Don Tavian Wicks, the draft Twitter's favorite, he is possible, of course. But it's like, does Watson move into a more full-time role, which makes him more exciting? I'm looking at Christian Watson, dude. He has four games this year. This is outrageous. Four games where he played his normal allotment. where he has one or fewer points. So can you play him? Yeah, you could try it. I'm starting to wonder if we're focused on the wrong position as the beneficiary of Dobbs's absence. Are you thinking maybe it's Tucker Kraft? I'm thinking maybe it's Tucker Kraft in the tight-in room. Maybe it's the passing game with the running backs. The Dolphins defense has been hard to nail down because at some points in the season, their offense without Tua made you question how much of that was their defense. Like you said recently, they're,

Poor defense against running backs has been very good. But consistently over the last six weeks, the course of the entire season, they've been beaten up by tight ends. I think Tucker Kraft is a good play. I think both Watson and Wicks are going to be dart throws, and they can be without Dobbs there in their favorite. And there are, you know, 25 point line. It's just, it's just going to be scary. It's like starting Rashah Bateman. You're like, uh, yeah. You're like, I know he's not the whole offense. or even a big part of it, but he can catch a touchdown. I think that's a fair tier comp, but I would give it just a, you know, a couple points of probability better with the Dobbs injury. Well, unfortunately, we get to move into our parley parte. And when I say, unfortunately, it's because Devon A. Chan decided to upset my 25 receiving yards by having 24. And then Jason, we are. Oh, man. You're going to have to grab a clown hat, my friend, because you and I are clowns together.

Five and a half receptions for Brock Bowers had 10 targets. Come on. We got any crowns back there still, guys? Nico Collins, 70 plus. You can crown it up. Always bet on Nico Collins, baby. I mean, it's just like a gimmie. Nico is so good. Yeah, let me get this cram. So we're jumping into Parley Parte right now because we are going to do a Thanksgiving edition this week. We had been on fire by the way. We had seven of nine and then we double clown this week. All right. Thanksgiving edition this week. Let's start off with our successful king on the other side of the table here. The king of the castle says Rico Dowdle. Now that's how you lose your throne. Always bet on Nico. What could go wrong with betting on Rico Dowdle? Spelled Nico with an R. Yeah. Okay. Rhyme rhymes. It's close enough. We're adjacent. 60 plus rushing yards.

The Giants allowing the third most rushing yards per game to the running back position. This is simply if the Cowboys don't pulling any of their stupid shenanigans, which they have done countless times already this year. But I think we're, I think we're finally locked in that Rico is the guy. And if he is the guy, 60 rushing yards, it should be no problem. I'm going to a 225 plus on the passing yards line in that Green Bay game. I just don't think they're going to be able to compete and keep up in that game unless they're throwing the football. I don't think they're going to win with just the running game. He's been averaging 255 since his return. Two what? 55. 55.

And he's hit that 225 plus line in 405 starts. I'm going to go with 2 as 225 plus. And I mentioned how I have a mental bump up for Jemir Gibbs in this game. I think he gets a few extra snaps. I'm going to take his over on two and a half receptions. He had three receptions last week. He's averaging three targets a game. And the Chicago Bears defense, you look at the last month, Aaron Jones hit it against him, Josh Jacobs hit it against him, James Connor hit it against him. So Jemir Gibbs with a few extra snaps. I think it gets over that two and a half reception total. It's interesting because I've been actually really disappointed in Gibbs' like design plays to him in the passing game. He's only got 26 receptions on this season. It's weird because he's such a great pass catching back that they don't use. Yeah. Because they just don't need to. They're like, well, it's kind of like what we're doing works. It's like the Laporta thing. Laporta is the same player. They just don't need to use him. He's only on pace for 40 catches this year after 52 last year.

Well, and Montgomery has more than him or the same amount. Montgomery has 24. There you go. So we will, are we allowed to declown? Is that permitted, Al? You are allowed. Can I stay the king? You know what? That's your choice, Mike. I'll join the team. But we have a- I too am very humble. We have a Black Friday game to get to. before we get into our Sunday Monday games. The Raiders are 2 and 9, and they have the privilege of having to fly to Kansas City and take on the 10 and 1 Chiefs. The DK Sportsbook line, Kansas City minus 12, the overrunners 42 and a half. 15 points for the Raiders. Yeah, it's not good. How do they get 15 points? Here's what I'll say. The Chiefs are barely hanging on in every game.

They're not winning decisively. They have not covered a spread in five weeks, like five straight games. So their lines are always, you know, they played. They played Las Vegas back in week eight. They did not cover. Tampa, Denver, Buffalo, Carolina. They were 11 point favorites last week to Carolina. They won by three. Do I think that we're going to be surprised here? No, but do they win by less than 12? Probably the way that things have been going. You know, in the Mahomes era, they've been 12 plus point favorites, 11 times. I've only covered four of those. So, I'm sorry, five of those. And they've hit the under and seven of the 11. So, you know, it's always hard to predict how they're going to take care of business. They will at home. But I think Kareem Hunt is a safe bet. I think the wide receiver room is terrifying. And I sure hope that our tight end room isn't becoming more terrifying with no gray's involvement.

If Noah Gray scores again this week and Kelsey doesn't, that's going to be a really weird conversation heading into the fantasy playoffs. Yeah, it's the Noah Gray touchdowns always feel like they're just a, it's the misdirection of like everybody else is opening things up for him. So it's, I don't know that you can really bank on it. Jason is scrambling and writing some things down. No, I was just looking up. I wanted to see on the Aden O'Connell side, you know, he started in week six. What were his tendencies? How did things go? And, you know, because I don't remember week six. Yeah, it's a long time ago. There was no Jacobi Myers. There was no Devonte Adams. So he was playing with a hodgepodge of wide receivers. Brock Bowers was great, but he was, you know, obviously the only man standing. 28% of the targets went to the running back room. 27% of the targets went to Brock Bowers, who ended up with 9 for 71, caught 90% of his passes.

I believe that Jacoby Myers and Brock Bowers are fine plays. Not like, I mean, Bowers are always going to play. But I think Jacobi Myers is a safe floor. Not a huge upside play by any means. But if you're looking for a wide receiver, you know, if you're comparing him to Christian Watson. Christian Watson, if you're an underdog and you need to like take that shot at a 70 yard touchdown, okay, that's fine. But like Andy said, the floor, there's a point. The floor for Jacob Myers, if you're in a full PPR league, should be, you know, eight, nine points. His ceiling's probably 12, 13, but I think he's safe. What kind of decisions can you even make elsewhere in this game? Well, the running back decision is very difficult because we don't know for sure whether there's a mere white with the quad injury will be back. I would assume Alexander Madison will not be. Alexander Madison was limited practice.

on Tuesday, and Zemir was a did not practice. And then you have Amir Abdullah who, like I said, in the Aden O'Connell start, I know there were short, wide receivers, but he was throwing to the running backs a lot in that single week. Amir Abdullah is a good pass catcher. But then you've got the problem of the matchup. Like, running backs don't do well against the chiefs. So do you just bench all the running backs, whoever it is? Preferably, yeah. What if it was like the McNichols versus Abdullah? McNickles. I'd go. McNacles is a rough matchup. I mean, Tennessee. Yeah. They're both rough matchups. They got Chris Rodriguez. We've got 11 carries the week before that might be more platoony. It will be. But you still would go with McNabbled. Yeah, I feel more confident in that. Where it's like with the, if Madison is really back this week, like if Madison is gone and it's just Amir Abdullah, then you can, you can ride again and just hope you get four or five receptions, but you don't have.

Like, you don't have Gardner. You know, Gardner liked throwing the, Abdul almost had two touchdowns. That was a play that they were going to. Will they go back to that design? That part, I don't know with O'Connell. Do you feel like, if you're the Pacheco manager, are you trying your hardest not to play him this week? I am trying not to, yeah. He's not, because of the injury that he's coming back from, like, it's not just a couple weeks. Oh, he had a sprained ankle. The guy can't be in football shape. I know he's at full practice, but that's a really long time to have a fracture in your leg and go play an NFL game. It sounds like a really big ask for him to get volume. It's a huge ask. Yeah. Thank you. Patrick Mahomes and that three touchdown run he's been on. Yeah, I was going to bring his name up. He's a questionable start. The matchup is great. He's been getting done. Baker or him?

I'm going to go Baker. I'd play Baker. Okay. But. Kyler? No. I'd go Mahomes. Okay. Yeah. It's been better, but I mean... Hopefully we are back. Okay. All right. A reminder to the Fookland, to everybody out there, take your Thursday and Friday players. Get them out of your flex spots. Get them into your positional spots. It's very important. Yeah. Never more important than this week. You will have players going on Thursday. And... You don't want your flex spot unavailable for late week craziness. Give yourself that. You remember Tommy, Tommy Cutlitz and the noodle arm that you thought was real? Disgusting. He's not flying. There it is. He's not flying with the team to Dallas and he didn't practice. I would imagine. He's not flying with the team to Dallas. Is he driving or is he not going? Because if he's not going, I'm going to say he's not starting. I don't know anymore. That just got reported.

It is very weird to have that information is available to us, and they're not just like, hey, he's out. Well, yeah, yeah, I don't know. No, we're still putting him. The tweets are coming out. It's a long shot. Okay, can we just like... He can't throw from New York. He doesn't have that kind of a... His yards would be unbelievable. Uh, yeah, so maybe it's going to be a Drew Locke opportunity. Okay. Which is maybe a little bit of a... a bump ski for neighbors upside. And Tyrone Tracy, too. All right. The Chargers is seven and four taking on the six and five Atlanta Falcons. I don't know what the Falcons are, to be honest with it. That's part of my curiosity this weekend. Well, okay. Yeah, they're predator, like they're a predator bird. A bird. You almost said eagle. You almost said they're predator eagles, didn't you?

You tried to explain it to me and almost called them Eagles. But I didn't. So you can't say anything. Drafking sportswick line charges minus two and a half on the road. Overrunners 48 and a half, both in the playoff mix. The Balkans should be good. That's my point is I don't know what they are. But are they? No one knows. I wonder if they would be better, like if you had Byron Murphy or Jared Verse or. Okay. Any one of these players? I see. Like a top 10 caliber draft pick in the NFL helping this team out? Not Michael Pennix on the bench? Right. Just I feel like it's time to check in on that and be like this team can win. They just feel like they could really use a first round pick. So, you know, both teams started slow. They're running the football a lot. Now both of them have been much more pass-happy offenses.

It didn't translate to a lot of success for Atlanta in their last matchup. They've lost two straight. Kirk Hudson's only been a top 12 quarterback one time since week six. It was a good time, though. It was. It was a really good time. I hope at home in this game that they can compete. Ironically, despite the fact the Chargers have a better record, they're a much lower seed in the AFC than the Falcons sit right now in the NFC. But the Chargers are road favorites. So I think that. That shows you what we think of Atlanta. So does Herbert continue doing what he's been doing? He's been... Herbert does for sure. So you're in? Oh, yeah. Herbert's a must start. With J.K. Dobbins... Is that because you hate the Atlanta defense? I mean, I don't. I actually don't hate them. I love them. They do great work for what I need. Okay, that's fair. I mean, he will not have Dobbins, and the offense did look a little bit disheveled without Dobbins on the field because we said, like, is the Gus bus...

good enough. He's averaging a robust 3.3 yards of character. The bus has some tires that, like, you know, you wouldn't want to drive behind that bus. The little light is definitely on. Yeah. Saying like, there's a few lights on. Some rust. Yeah. The, the, the, the, the tread on the tire could come flying off at any moment. Uh, where I have, where I'm curious here is what is the game plan now that they're like, They know they don't have Dobbins where going into the last matchup, they're counting that Dobbins is going to be taking all of these touches. And now that he's out, do they just air it out a ton more? I do think that I think they'll be forced to throw the ball in this game. So I really like Justin Herbert. Ladd McConkey has been very good. I even think you can.

Play Quentin Johnston. Obviously, yes, you still can. He had a goose last week and a ton of drops and a lot was made and it was in prime time. It was a bad look, a bad experience. But he is going to get enough targets in this game. You know, on the season, if you adjust for schedule, Falcons are 32nd at fantasy points given up to wide receivers. So, huge, you shouldn't just, you shouldn't just drop him because he dropped the ball. He's not getting benched by the Chargers. Right. He's going to be out there. Exactly. He benches himself. Sometimes. Here's the thing that I see as a problem for the Chargers offense in this game and moving forward. You have two targets on the year for Gus Edwards. You have zero on the year for Hassan Haskins. You have two targets on the year for Vidal Sassoon. So you don't have, the Echler isn't there. Dobbins was more versatile.

You don't have that underneath. Like is it the tight ends that are going to step up? Is Will Disley going to be somebody that you can, you know, start because you don't have options? And he's a checkdown. That's what I'm curious about because one thing that Herbert's amazing at is you watch his read progression in the pocket. And then he goes to that checkdown at the end of that progression. And I don't know if these running backs, maybe he has to do it. And Gus has to try to catch the football. But that's my concern about their offense moving. And what's ironic about that is that the Falcons are one of the teams that gives up the most receptions to running backs. So you've got a quarterback with a tendency to throw to a running back, a team that they give up those plays a lot. And you don't know if you've got a running back who can do that. Because Gus Edwards, it's not just like, oh, he's got two receptions on the year. He's never been a, two targets. He's never been a, you know, what's his career high? Like 13?

I don't know. It is very low. It ain't his thing, man. It's very low, but he has also been very efficient at times. I mean, I'm remembering a season. This was probably, I don't know, like five years ago, but his yards per catch was, was outrageous. His career. Four receptions is 31. Yeah, he had a year with a 14 yard per catch average. Like, that's. Yeah, I mean, it was nine catches. Yeah, right. Hey, that's fine. Given if it all happens in this game. In his career, he averages, you're going to love this. Six catches per season. Yeah. Career high is. That does not happen. Career high is 12. So the third down back, can they catch? That'll be a question. McConkey's been catching his targets. He's running a ton of rounds. He has been very valuable. And he will continue to be a PPR, a PPR guy. And he's going back home to Georgia. Yeah.

Lididi is in play. Lididi and Bowers are both leading the rookies in like receptions, I think. Georgia boys. Maybe that's, it can't be receptions, right? Neighbors have to have more receptions. For Brock, that makes sense. Yeah, let me look at the C. No, 49 for 698 is where Lididi is currently sitting. So he's having a very good year. Kurt Cousins, Bejohn, London and Mooney, which we got word that. Mooney is practicing and feeling good. That's great. So, um, I mean, you're going to play a lot of players in this game. You're going to play Drake London. You should play Darnell Mooney. I think you can play the wide receivers on the other side of the ball. Gus Edwards is probably started. If you picked him up, um, you know, I mean, I would, I see him as kind of a low end RB2 this week. We are down in the pits again. Oh, gosh.

I mean, one catch, four catches, one catch, 11 yards, 23 yards, nine yards. No touchdowns, no involvement. Could have drafted Bowers. Yeah. Who would you play Big Montana or Kyle Pitts? Montana. Yeah, I agree. Just take the floor? Oh, take the song. Yeah. We'll miss me. We love you. Montana Strong. I wasn't even doing a bit, guys. I was asking a genuine question. Well, I knew where it was going. Well, the answer is the answer, Mike. You don't get a choice. If the answer is that man, you're Montana Strong in that tight-in spot. I think I would play Will Disley over Sam Laporta. You feeling good about Bijon rest of season in terms of like league winning potential? Chargers, then the Vikings, then the Raiders, Giants, Washington in the playoffs?

Seems pretty nice. That feels pretty good. Coming off a buy, he had a really hot stretch right before the buy week. I expect him to be awesome down the stretch. So this one's Los Angeles minus two and a half. Is that too? You can take that if you believe. If you want. Andy's almost upset of the week. If you don't give the cook the right ingredients, they can't make something that tastes that good. And that's where I feel Justin Herbert is right now. He's a masterful chef. But you can't, wow, that is. Okay. But you can't, boy, he heard the word chef and he's like, I've got this in the archives over there. But you can't, he just doesn't have enough to work with. Is it because of Dobbins? No, because of beyond Dobbins, but I've been talking about this for, for three weeks. It's, they have been a good receiving option away from being what you need. They have, they've kind of forced their way into.

these games where they're barely getting by, but he does not have the weaponry. I mean, over the, he's been a top 12 guy for five straight weeks. It's not a fantasy argument. I'm talking about the upset. I'm talking about the charges. If you give Herbert a master chef not enough ingredients, he can't make. Gotcha. He can't make something delicious every week. And you can't throw the ball to McConkey on every play. And when you don't throw it to McConkey, literally everything else you can do in the offense. has a question mark next to it. If Will Disley is getting this much coverage on this podcast, that tells you everything you need to know about their offensive weapons, is all I'm saying. But we'll move on. The Steelers at 8 and 3, Mike's favorite player, Russell Wilson, taking on the 4 and 7. I don't like where that is gone. The 4 and 7 Cincinnati Bengals, the DK Sportsbook line Cincinnati minus 3 at home. The overrunners 48 and a half. Now is that moving up? Is that line surprising to you when you have the 8 and 3 Steelers in the 4 and 7 Bengals?

It's not that surprising to me. The Bengals are a much better team than their record. And I don't think the Pittsburgh Steelers are as good as their record. So apparently the sports books agree here with the Cincinnati favored by three points. The three is interesting. That is one. One would be more. More what your expectation is. And this is, you know, maybe a reflection on the offense for Cincinnati has been outrageously. good. They should have pulled off the upset against the chargers. They almost did. Burrow, QB2 on the year, Chase Brown has been a revelation. Joe Burrow has been so darn good. I mean, it's, I feel so bad for the man. Yeah, it's like a waste of a MVP caliber season. Yeah, I mean, he is truly, he might be the best quarterback in the league this year, and he's four and seven.

He's on pace right now for 4,600 yards and, let's see, 41 touchdowns. I mean, that is what you want to hear if you have Jamar Chase and T. Higgins. Yes, it is. So they're a pretty easy start-s-it decision-making situation. Burrow, Chase Brown, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins, end it. Yeah, that's great. You're done. All those are in everybody's lineup who has them. On the other side, it's not that complicated either. You have George Pickens, Jason, start of the week. You know, Mike, you like Russell Wilson if you need him. Yes, that's more what it is. It's not a stardom over known commodities. It's a streamer with confidence. And then Najee Harris, Jay Lamar. That is the running back decision making process where the Bengals have improved against the running game. Naji had his first single digit game last week in a long, long time, maybe since week three. So where are you with the Najee Jalen Warren experience, Jason?