Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Early QB Rankings Part 2

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to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome into Foot Clan headquarters, the studio. This is the good stuff for this episode.

This one? Oh, yeah. This episode's got the good stuff. Oh, yeah. These are the quarterbacks that we care about far more than those first 10 scrubs. Yeah. Speaking of the scrubs, you can listen to us. Talk about them on the Tuesday show. Look, we're getting into our, what is it, 11 through 20 at the quarterback position today. Andy, Mike, and Jason, the fantasy footballers back again. Delivering the goodness.

It's going to be a fun show today. We ended with a couple of interesting names on the last show, and so I'm excited to get into it. Check us out on the web at the fantasy footballers.com. That's where you can submit questions. We're going to answer a bunch of listener questions. On the next episode, we also have a mailbag show every single week, an extra show on jointhefoot.com. And so I invite you to go and check that out. It's awesome. You can also find us on Twitter at the FF Ballers. And this week, we are taking a minute to just...

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Yeah, 200 shows. That's just pretty incredible, and we wouldn't be able to do that without your support. So thank you so much for supporting this show and for helping us at podcastawards.com. The quick question for the day, before we get into the quarterbacks and some great discussion about streaming the quarterback position, I have a quick question. You guys don't know what it is, but I'll give you a hint. It's a good one. Oh, all right. I think I know the answer. Sweet hint. Sweet hint.

Do you guys know who had the longest rush from scrimmage in 2015? Yeah. All right, so don't answer then. If you know the answer. The longest rush. What was the longest rush from scrimmage in 2015? It was in fact a touchdown. I have a very strong guess. I'm going to go with a Marcus Marietta. That was who I was going with. Where are we correct? Jason Witten. No, not really.

I just want to see that so bad. I know. I was picturing it. It was fun. The play lasted 25 seconds. No, it wasn't Jason Whitten. Believe it or not. It was Marcus Marietta. And so he's one of the quarterbacks we're going to talk about today. A lot has been happening with the Titans in general this offseason. Richard Matthews, DeMarco Murray, Mike Malarkey becoming the head coach. Getting a bajillion picks. The big, big trade. There's some talk about them.

grabbing a wide receiver at pick 15, another weapon for Mario, so I think he is going to be, I wanted to remind people about the capability of somebody who didn't rush a lot, but does have elite four, what did he run? A four, four something? It wasn't, I'll look it up. Check out Marioita's 40 time. Just the ability to make a play like that. We saw that with RG3 in the past where,

Somehow a play that looks like it's a 5 or 10-yard run can become an 87-yard touchdown. That was the play from scrimmage. That was the longest last year. There's no guarantee of success. You know who has the number one quarterback run in history? Because that was the number two longest quarterback run. Terrell Pryor. Well, I tell you what? You hand him the ball. He might do something. Yeah. Okay. So what was his 40 time, by the way? I need to do a vet it by a different source here, so I'm pulling it up. It was a 452. Okay. That sounds right. That sounds right.

Any news you guys want to get into? Are we saving that until next week? Let's get right to the quarterbacks. I think we're going to get into the quarterbacks. Obviously, we've got, I want to let everybody know too. We have a couple of great draft shows coming up. We're going to have a special guest on on Tuesday of next week. Are we revealing that? Yeah, I think we can. For those who do not know, RotoViz, you're ridiculous. First of all, go check out RotoViz.

and Matthew Friedman, also known as Matt F. The Oracle, has agreed in principle to join us for a nice... Well, we didn't secure the deal? Well, you just... You always got to have a way out. Do we need to send a box of cookies or something? Got to lock it down. Your wife makes great lemon cookies. So let's bring those up here.

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last show, and so if you want an introduction to what streaming the quarterback position means, go listen to the show from Tuesday. We talked about the fact that there were 11 quarterbacks last year that threw for 30 or more touchdowns, the fact that there were 40, is that right? 40, that is correct. Different quarterbacks that put up a QB1 week last year. Which means top 12. Which means top 12 at the position at least in one week, which is just incredible.

And so we're going to start right now at number 11 on our consensus list. You can see all of our quarterbacks, one through, what, 32, I'm guessing, some are right around there. Right around there, yeah. On the website, the fancy footballers.com, just click the rankings tab. You can see it in every scoring system. Our consensus that we're going through on the show is by six point per passing touchdown scoring system. So there's some variation there. Obviously running quarterbacks move up a little bit in a four-point league because the value of the rush is higher.

than the passing touchdown. So number 11, I think a lot of people would have expected him in our top 10 or in, I think he's probably in the top 10 of a lot of people. And that's Ben Rothesberger. He's the sixth quarterback right now going off the board in average draft. So we've got him devalued here as far as being overdrafted. And what's crazy is he's on pace for 5,000 yards type of season. And I had mentioned this last year.

I'm sorry, last episode that I really, really like Ben Rathlisberger. I think it's a guarantee he's going to have 4,500 yards passing, you know, 29 touchdowns. The thing that we don't remember a lot of times with Big Ben, he doesn't throw that many touchdowns by comparison to the other giant name quarterbacks in fantasy, at least over the course of his career. Yeah, 21 last year? Yeah, so I was... 21 touchdowns in 2015? And the highest...

total that Ben Rothersperker has ever thrown for the highest. We're talking in the age where Tom Brady has thrown a 50 touchdown season. Big Ben, you know, fantasy superstar, 32. 32 touchdowns is the most, the highest total for a full season for Ben Rothersberger. And that's the only, he's done that twice, but those are the only seasons above 30 in a, what will now be, what, a 12-year career. And so there's a word of caution with all the hype that comes around Big Ben. He has had some of those.

like mind-blowing games in the public eye where he had what, back-to-back seven touchdown? Six touchdown games. What was that two years ago? Yeah. And so that kind of gets in your mind. Antonio Brown obviously provides so much upside for a quarterback. And so there are games where he goes out like last year at Seattle and throws for 456 yards. But he also has a game like, you know, week three against St. Louis where he threw for 192. Well, he also...

died in that. That's true. That game he did. But he had a 229 game, a 220 game. And so there's some variables with Big Ben. We've talked about the impact that Martavis Bryant's suspension has on Tony O'Brown, those kinds of guys, it goes up. It brings Ben down. I mean, that's... Seven points less per game is the average without Martavis Bryant last year. And that's a big deal. I mean, you're talking to a full touchdown less for Big Ben, for the entire team. So it's unless someone like Sammy Coates...

or Marcus Wheaton can step up and fill a void left behind by the immense talent of Bryant. I mean, sure, Rathusberger is going to dazzle you with his yards, but he's going to, like Eli Manning. We talked about Eli Manning can have these monster games and then just disappear for fantasy. Ben can do the same type of a thing. Yeah, he can beat you when you expect him to stink and he can stink for you when you're playing him. Let me ask this, though, if he's 11 on our list.

Is he on any of our teams in any league? Because, I mean, it just doesn't seem like that's going to happen. It's highly doubtful. It would pretty much be impossible for, I mean, for us, the three of us, to draft him. Because, and I said this last episode, there are a lot of really great NFL quarterbacks who are not always the best quarterbacks for fantasy football. Ben Rothsberg is a great example. He's a guy that I would want on my NFL team to get me to a Super Bowl and win a championship.

But I'm not going to have him on my fantasy team as far as for the value of where other people take him because of his name. Not to mention, he misses games here and there with injuries. Jason, how much does Lev Bell returning help Big Ben in the fantasy world? Or does it?