Fantasy Football - Mock Draft Episode + Mike's House of Cards - Podcast for 6/24

Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in Tuesday, June 24th mock draft time. We got another mock draft episode today. Looking forward to it. Looking forward to Jason taking Caleb Johnson in the first. Oh, man. Don't tip me with a good time. And now we're doing a full PPR mock draft on today's episode of the show. That is the main event. Very excited about that. 12 team full PPR mock draft. The draft is fully stocked with the three of us and a number of our writing staff and employees. And so we're going to get a good lay of the land here at the end of June.

And we know from the footcast episode we recently recorded that, I mean, we had, we had our first set of questions where people were like, my draft is this week. I'm drafting next week, which was jarring and don't do that. But it does. Sometimes you, that's just what happens. Yeah. Schedules are tough for people. Yeah. I wouldn't name for mid-June. I would say if you're doing a dynasty startup. I feel like that's fine. Obviously, you've got to be after the NFL draft. You have to be after free agency. You know, when it comes to training camp, it's like... Is that what that was? Was it a Dynasty League? I don't think so. No, I think the question we got was just a redraft league. They're ready to go. Yeah, no, it's going to be fun. That's what we're doing today. And if you want to watch it, if you want to see the draft board and see all the different teams as we go through it,

Very easy to do. Head over to YouTube. YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers. And you can follow along in the draft. You can follow the show on Spotify and Apple. Drop us a five-star review if you have a minute. That really helps the podcast out. Only five still. Yeah. Right. That's a good. That's why I said five. Sometimes. Do 10 if you can. Sometimes in the game of reviews, it's very funny. Because you'll read a review. You're like, oh. This person took the time. They wrote, you know, like a paragraph and they were, you know, so nice. Three stars. You're like, what? What? How are you going to be nice? Uh, yeah, no, we like the fives. Uh, we definitely do. You can follow us on Twitter, by the way, on X at the FF ballers and the ultimate draft kit with the draft analyzer coming out in a few days.

UltimateDraftKit.com, the draft analyzer. This year we're going to add the feature of being able to import not just your draft and get a grade on your team, but also compare it to the rest of your league. So we'll be taking all of the teams in your league and giving you a breakdown, not just of your team, but of theirs, and that'll let you identify some trading opportunities. And it should be a lot of fun. Big upgrade this year to the draft analyzer as part of the UDK Plus. The community over there, join thefoot.com. But that's all I had to say here at the top. I want to jump right in. It's time. Let's go. The fantasy footballers mock draft. Well, well, well, I said it. 12 team full PPR, one quarterback, two running back, two wide receiver, one tight end, one flex, four bench spots, and randomly assigned draft order. I'm at the one. Randomly. Yeah, I randomly assigned it in the order I chose.

I'm at the one, bets at the two, and wait, Jason's at the four. I'm excited about that. The last two drafts have been at the end of the draft. Yeah. And so I get the change up. And Kyle's in here at the six. Mike is at the eighth spot. And so like I said, you can follow along on YouTube if you want to see the draft board. But we're going to get right into it. This is a full PPR mock draft, which is delightful for me at the one. because I am traditionally somebody who likes to push for running back at the top of the draft, but I will not do that here. I will start our draft with Jamar Chase and a full PPR. And I will just let him fly right off the board onto my roster. I have no, like you have no reason to ever complain or feel bad with the chase pick at the top. Sure. So Matthew Betts follows suit with a CD Lamb selection at the 102.

Very excited for Lamb and DAC being back this year. And then Justin Jefferson off the board at the 103, putting Jason in kind of the more interesting first selection spot here with a number of great running backs on the board. Yeah. I mean, you've got, you know, in full PPR, sometimes it's tempting to force yourself to go wide receiver. But really, I mean, full PPR just means the pass catching running backs are equally more valuable. You know, Christian McCaffrey in full PPR leagues has been. the league winner still. So this year, my number one running back is Bijon. He's young. He has no red flags. I think it's, I personally think we haven't seen Bejohn Robinson's best season yet. I'm going to draft him right now and hopefully get it this year. So Chase, Lamb, Jefferson, and Bejohn, here's our running back run. Gibbs goes at the 105.

I can see that in full PPR. People want to take a shot on that, pass catching prowess. Gibbs still has ceiling left, which it should be terrifying to the rest of the NFL. Sequin Barclay at the 106, and then Amunra St. Brown goes at the 107, putting Mike on the clock. Four wide outs off the board, three running backs. What players are you looking at, Mike? So at the top, my highest ranked, her highest projected wide receiver will be Puka. I am firmly on the team that Puka Nakua. You should feel great about having him as a wide receiver one on your team. Because there's people out there who don't. But if I'm at the eight spot and Chris McCaffrey falls to me, I mean, I know I'm taking him like every one of our drafts. But he fell to me at the one away. What am I supposed to do? Three straight mock drafts. Puka is a very safe star in PPR leagues. Very safe.

Malik Neighbors, so Puka went right after Mike. Malik Neighbors went next. Nico Collins at the 11th. And then Ashton Genti going off the board to round out the first round. Yeah, that makes sense. At the 112, giving us five running backs and eight, or sorry, seven wide outs going in the first round of a PPR draft. What is your reaction to the lay of the land there in the first? My reaction is that was a great pick at the 109. uh grabbing puka that's certainly who i would have taken i mean the knock on puka over cmc yeah yeah i mean i i think puka in a full ppr is he is a target hog i mean the the issue he has had from a not being like the number one is oh i'm not sure he's a touchdown guy which i i don't i don't buy that he hasn't been a touchdown machine but when you just talk targets volume full ppr he is an alpha

So Puka, yeah, 109 there. In the second round, we've got the Falcon is at the turn. So he took Gentie and then went Drake London combo. And then Brian Thomas Jr. and A.J. Brown go next. And we finally have a break from the running backs and the whiteouts. Brock Bowers off the board at the 204, the combo with Puka and Akua. You're talking a good 200 receptions between those two guys in a full PPR. And I think that's conservative. I think that's pretty safe. So, Mike, you're back on the clock. I am. You can't take McCaffrey again, I'm afraid. I don't need to. I do feel like, just to speak to McCaffrey for a second, it is a, it is a polarizing landscape with Christian McCaffrey. Yeah. And I feel like there's the people that understand that he can be the number one overall running back again. And then there are the people that are like,

that that's just an idiotic move. Like, that's how strong they feel about it. And I'm not one of them. I'm saying there's like a McCaffrey bullying going on out there where it's like they don't see it. They don't understand. The injuries have, they have burned them so badly that there's no realm in which they would take Christian McCaffrey. And to be honest, you've taken them in three straight mocks, but you've taken them ahead of ADP in all three months. Is 101, 108 would be higher than? I mean, I think so in a full PPR even. Then that is sensational. So Mike starts this year with Christian McCaffrey. I guess every draft you will be the one pulling the trigger. Because, yeah, like Puka, he's going to catch a bunch of passes. That's great. Is he going to rush the ball over 200 times two? Because Christian McCaffrey could catch 60 plus passes while having all those. I get it. Everybody's selection is risk aversion when they don't take McCaffrey. Yep.

I get that. So I'm on the clock. Looking at the wide receivers, you know, I really like Ladd McConkey. I think he is a perfectly fine pick here. But I'm going to lean into the lowest T of the high T. And I will take Devon A-chan and expect that he will just get peppered with targets yet again. I love that pick, Mike. I think A-chan is being undervalued. I really do. I think, especially in this format. He still does honestly feel a little bit scary to me. And he probably shouldn't based off of what happened. I mean, it's just the, you know, the, the efficiency dropped so much. And the team was very disappointing. But in PPR especially, I would, I would be really happy with that start of two just dynamic.

pass catchers who both of them could lead the league in receptions or in receiving yards at the end of the year. We talked about on the overrated underrated, we talked about Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniels and his offensive prowess and how bad it was like emotionally for Dolphins fans and fantasy players. A. Chen had double the carries, double the attempts. You expect the efficiency. I mean, nobody thought 7.7. No, no, no, no. The 4.47 is fine. He caught 78 passes on an offense that went from like a top five offense and points per game to 18. So if you bounce back at all because two is there and Tyreeks healthy, A-chan is just a steal. I mean, I love the pick. Trey McBride goes next. That really upset me. You wanted the Bichon-Trey McBride start? Yes, I did. Sorry. Real quick to follow up earlier, the CMC PPR ADP.

That's a lot of initials. It's 205. I was almost going to say you could have flipped those. Like A. Chan could have gone and McCaffrey could have gone in the second. But you're upset, Jason. You want to train McBride? Yeah. I mean, in a full PPR, a tight end that just caught 111 receptions. I mean, that's like there's not wide receivers on the board here that are going to catch 111 receptions. To have that positional advantage is outstanding in the second round. Unfortunately. Julia was rude and took him. So Ladd McConkey went next after Kyle. Derek Henry finally goes full PVR at the 208. Is that feel right? Yeah, it feels about right. The, you know, baking in some risk of, like he won't catch the passes. He probably regresses in touchdowns, but Derek Henry just seems to be the one man that you should never, ever bet against. I feel like Derek Henry,

is oftentimes in full ppr leagues he falls too far yeah you know it's like oh he doesn't catch passes look that's not the only way you score in fantasy if he rushes for 2 000 yards yeah and 20 touchdowns you know basically like he did last year um you're you're okay not having the receptions um i'm sitting here on the on the clock now um there are i don't have a wide receiver the tight ends uh mc McBride and Bowers are gone. I wouldn't look at quarterback this early. And there's a handful of running backs that I actually like. So I am going to pull the trigger on wide receiver. And it might be a little bit surprising who I take. I've got him in a full PPR. Now, this is assuming health, which is a scary thing to do. But I've got him as a wide receiver one, even though he's not a wide receiver one for his team. It's T. Higgins. When he has been on the field, he's been unstoppable. And I'm going to take him as my wide receiver one.

Oh, man. We had, I think a quick question yesterday that was, or last week that was Rashi Rice, T. Higgins. Saw some reactions like, why is everybody in on T. Higgins now when, you know, the injury history has been a problem. And I think everything feels really secure with the contract. We feel good about the offense. We feel good about the quarterback. Feel good about the defense being bad. But 209 is, uh, It's a pronouncement in favor of T. Higgins. Yeah, I mean, the wide receiver. Son of a gun. Gosh, dang it. Bucky Irving goes it right before my pick. Sorry. That's frustrating because Bucky, Bucky in a PPR, 50 receptions. Yeah. I mean, that's, sorry. Go ahead. No, no, that's fine. Rashad White. Uh, yeah, T. Higgins was, was my highest rate. I mean, this is a full PPR league. So you saw the run of, you know, Brian Thomas Lab McConkey, Drake London.

these guys are all gone already. Very frustrated. All right. Jamar Chase was my first pick. J.S.N. went after Higgins and then Bucky Irving at the 2-11, which was my target at running back. I do have running backs on the board like Josh Jacobs and Jonathan Taylor. High volume, high attempt running backs, kind of whatever, Henry Light in that capacity. Didn't catch a ton of passes. Chiron, same story, not a ton of passes, but going to be workhorse running backs. I think I'm going to go wide out, wide out here. Okay. I'm going to take Garrett Wilson. Yeah. And it's just total targets, total receptions. They're going to be there. I don't know if he scores a bunch, but I know in a PPR league, I'm getting, you know, one of the top tier, top target guys. So now my decision, it's one of those running backs. Do I let them fly by because I can get somebody a little bit later? I got a long wait. I got a wait, what,

Two picks? Something like that. That's gross. We'll never know. That's gross. I think I'm going to give myself the flexibility. I think I'm going to pivot back. I'm going to give myself more flexibility. If I take another white out here, I was thinking about Marv. If I take another white out here, I am really backed into running back in the fourth at the turn. So I'll take Jacobs and lock in just a true workhorse there. So Chase Wilson Jacobs is the pick. And no, no, Jameson Williams not off the board to my team here in the third. You could have had him. Yeah, yeah. I wanted Bucky, though, man. That would have been nice. Bucky and Garrett Wilson. Rashi Rice goes next, third round. Yeah, he would not have made it past me. No. And then we have Marvin Harrison a couple picks later. I was really considering Marv. Marv was.

probably going to be my pick if he was on the board here. It makes it really easy to me because I was between Marvin Harrison and my running back of choice. There are several good running backs. You know I love Karen Williams. I talk up Jonathan Taylor how much I love him, but I'm actually going to go with someone that might surprise you guys. I mean, Mike would, Mike would do it as well. Oh, don't do that to me. I'm doing it to you. Dude, I was going so high tea. I'm going, I'm going with Chase Brown. When he got the starting job in a full PPR, he was on pace for 93 targets. He was a, a true PPR back. And I think they're going to use him the same way. I'm, I've, I've turned into a full believer that Chase Brown turned into a team bangles as well. He's going, yeah, that's true. Don't let him get burrow.

I would love to stack with Burrow. Yeah, I know. I say like if I'm if I'm in a league and I see this happening in the second third round, Joe Burroughs moves up my board. Just for spite. Yeah. Just the anger play. Well good. I'm glad I took Chase Brown from you. All right. Chase Brown to Jason to pair with Bijon and T. Higgins. Devante Adams goes next to 305. And then Jonathan Taylor and Kyron off the board. Mike, I don't know if you were looking at still going high tea with either of those guys, but you are back on the clock, eighth pick of the third round. I am. So I'm high tea. I'm just running back, running back. So right now the wide receivers, ADP-wise would be Tyreek, Terry, Mike Evans, DJ Moore, D.K. Mac, oh, man, Sutton. This is a weird tier of wide receivers if you're talking to PPR League. Are you having a hard time differentiating? Yes. The group.

I am. I wasn't sure if I wanted to, you know, balance out the team a little bit. But I am going to go. Mike Williams? Are you going Mike Williams? I am not. Okay. But I, the testosterone is still going to keep on boosting boys. Really? Oh, wow. We're going to take the old man. We're going to take Alvin Camara here. Good night. We are just, we are going to monopolize the running back reception market. You're going to have an ARP attack. Christian McCaffrey and Camara. What could go wrong with McCaffrey and Camara on a team together? You know, does it say something about your worldview, your philosophical worldview that you, you just see people in it going right? Like you're a positive person. You see the glass half full, the knee always healthy. Yeah? With CMC and now Camara. Yeah, you love Ken Walker as well. I do. That's a perfect example of like he's so talented.

And you love T. Higgins. I do. Because they're great when they're on the field. Yeah, you can't. That's what I'm saying. The first vision you have when you put on the goggles and you watch the film is not the injuries. You just see the big place. No, because I'm not drafting like a coward. Like you would be a great agent for these guys. Yeah. You know what I mean? Oh, I'm available. Yeah. Alvin. You want a percentage. He'll go get that's money. You got to restructure your deal. All right. Mike goes. Alvin Camara at 308, it's a great pick. I mean, it was with Jacobs on the board, Chase Brown on the board, I wouldn't have done it, but I mean, I think it would have been okay to take him at the top of the third. Mike Evans. It doesn't feel great. It doesn't feel good, but it could work. Yeah, it doesn't look good last year, but it worked. Mike Evans goes at 309. Breece Hall and Ken Walker and James Cook round out the third round, which, you know, more running backs off the board. There was some depth there.

in a PPR with all the wide outs and a couple of tight ends going off the board. We'll go ahead and take a quick break and come back to the mock starting in the fourth round. Well, give me a quick reflection on the first three rounds, either with your team or just teams that you see out there that it's worked out well for them. You know, it's obviously very wide receiver heavy, pass catcher heavy. And I think once you hit this area of the draft, the fourth, feels like, Some of the wide receivers aren't very shiny. You know what I mean? You're kind of in a group of guys that you're not sure you love. They all have warts. And that feels pretty early for that in the fourth. Yeah, we're getting down to that point. DJ Moore goes off the board with the first pick of the fourth round. And then we've got three more running backs. Hampton. The shot on Hampton at 402. I like that. The news is very positive around Hampton. Chuba Hubbard and James Connor.

A couple of underrated every downbacks going here at 403 and 404. And then Mike, back on the clock, I mean, you're maxing out the testosterone. I am. So I'm wondering where you're going now. McCaffrey, A. Chan, Camara, you're at the 405. So it would be hilarious to take Joseph Mixing right here, but I'm not going to do that. So the wide receivers, Tyreek is still there. Yep. You do have HN. For this particular build, yeah, because I have HN, I don't love going in on that. Part of my bet of HN is we see more of what we saw last year, where it's an anti-Tarek bet. Then you, Terry and D.K. and Cortland Sutton, my highest ranked of those guys would be Cortland Sutton. Man. But I'm going to.

I'm considering going with the quarterback. No one has taken a quarterback yet. We're in the fourth round, meaning I get to take just my number one quarterback, which I think I'm going to do it. I'm going to see what my team looks like here. And my QB1 for this year is Josh Allen. Josh Allen or Lamar, it doesn't matter to me which one you want to go with, but I'm going to go with Josh Allen. Well... Alan is the 405, the first quarterback off the board. Joe Mixing goes next. I imagined there was no hope of him getting to me when it has to go through Jason. And mixing goes off the board. 406 seems like a great value. Goes behind, you know, Cook and Walker and Hampton and Hubbard and Connor. That seems like one of the steals of the draft personally. Yeah, I like talking crap about mixing, but it's like especially Hubbard.

Because we're in the PPR, I would value Mixing over Chuba. Tyreek off the board at 407 to pair with McConkey on Kyle's team. And then Metcalf goes off the board. I think that that could be a really, really solid pick from a reception total perspective. Metcalf feels, I mean, I know we have differences of opinion, but Jason and I have shared, we think Metcalf just feels like the one of those obvious. falling too far guys. Yeah, when I was on, when Mike was on the clock, I had three wide receivers queued up for this pick. In order, it went D.K. Metcalf, Tyreek Hill and Devante Smith. So I think Tyreek in the fourth, you know, I have been out on Tyreek, but Tyreek in the fourth, that's a shot worth taking. I would have taken Metcalf ahead of them just because I'm very confident in D.K. Metcalf this year. And instead, I'm just going to end up taking.

A great wide receiver. I mean, both T. Higgins and Avanti Smith on my team, they're great wide receivers who aren't the ones for their team, but they are good for fantasy football. They're solid players. And Andy gets sniped again. I love it. I was hoping maybe with this group of. live drafters that George Kittle could follow me as well. But I take it you would have taken him here. Yeah, he was on the, he was in the queue. I've learned how to use a queue versus just drafting a player. Oh, that's great. You've done this for only a decade. Just a decade. But, uh, yeah, I look, that's two, it's two times, Betsy. That's twice. That's twice. He takes George Kittle. So, um, Metcalf went and Jason took DeMonte Smith. Then Lamar Jackson goes.

at the 4-10, second quarterback. Then Kittle goes at 4-11, and Kittle was 100% the next pick for my roster. And I'm very frustrated. That's annoying. So what are you going to do? Yeah. Well, I'm looking. I've got a bunch of names that just don't fit the tier that I felt like Kittle represented for my team right there. A wide receiver, jokes aside, Jameson in the 5th, better than Jameson in the 3rd. Agreed. So he is in consideration for me. I look at some of the other guys out there. You know, someone's going to pull the trigger on Tet McMillan at some point who could have a high reception total in year one and a full PPR. Terry McLaren's sitting there. And it's like that feels really, really safe for the roster. So I'm actually, you know, I look at the running backs and there's like, you know, Monty's there. And then it's a pile of rookies, you know, RJ Harvey.

How involves he going to be? Do you trust R.G. Harvey, if you're me as you're running back two? I don't think so. I would trust Judkins more, Jason. Yeah, Judkins has far more assured opportunities. I think he's going to be the starter from day one. And with J.K. Dobbins there, you're just not sure with R.J. Harvey, although Harvey probably will catch more passes. I'm going to take Terry McLaurin. And, you know, I have so much confidence in that offense. And now I'm going to take a quarterback. Okay. And I can either try to disrupt Jason and go for my own stack of Burrow and Chase so he doesn't get to bring him back. Or I can take the combination. That's a tricky situation. I can take the combination of Jaden Daniels with Terry McLaurin. Oh, man. So I'd love to hear what you think. I know what my rankings say. I, man. That's what a predicament that you have.

backed into, I know what I would, do you want me to say what I would do? Look, I haven't locked on my side. I'm taking, you know, I'll write it down, but I'm just curious where you guys are going to go. I would go Burrow. That's where. That's where I would go. I'd want the Burroughs. Are you sure? You know, the hard part there is one of the differentiators. Burroughs ranked higher for me, but they're back to back. Yeah. But what, what's hard is. McLaren does have the touchdown regression regression story. He's also got a contract situation right now. He hasn't showed up. But there's so there's a little bit more unknown with McLaren this year. And then Jaden here too, you guys are throwing out the Stroud comp. I don't like that. I think Jaden's going to be fine. We're not comping him to it. We're just showing that there is a world where you don't necessarily get better. Comp is not the right word. Sorry, the example. The Stroud example. Sorry. But, you know, if it goes bad for.

for Jaden in year two. It's certainly going bad for McLaurin with the touchdown regression. So I won't stack that. I'll just take the chase burrow combo disrupt Jason's potential plans. And Jaden goes next. So Jaden off the board to Betsy. I mean, goodness gracious. You cannot let that happen in your league. Let the burrow chase combo happen. Yeah. Yeah. I got so focused on how hilarious it would be to ruin Jason's Bengal super stack that I. I took my eye off the ball. I took my eye off Jamar Chase. My stack is better. Yeah. Yeah, no. So I was, I was actually really hesitant on whether I would take Burrow here. And the reason was because I've got two ways I can stack. And these quarterbacks are Joe Burrow and Jalen Hertz to me are the same tier. Yeah, I prefer a guy who can have the rushing touchdowns and the tush push. And I just drafted Devante Smith. So I'm going to complete my stack there with Jalen Hertz.