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Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in. I'm still falling. Tuesday was broken into September. Oh, wait. Is that true? Oh, my goodness. Jason just looked at his watch. It's September. That was not a gag. It's really September? Yes, yes. Oh, all right. Time is nothing.

Time is infinite. Time is all. Time is Frank Gore. Welcome into the show of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Appreciate you with us, Andy Mike and Jason. We have a stash or trash episode today. If you're a new listener, welcome in. Excited to be with you for this upcoming fantasy football season. We like to take a holistic approach to fantasy football, bringing you not just the stats and the analytics, but also some, you know,

contextual advice, some things that can help you have an advantage over your league mates and help you take the next step. A lot of people reach out and they're like, I just keep finishing fourth. I just keep finishing third or just outside of the playoffs. And you just got to turn a couple dials. Yeah, the whole point is championship. And, you know, while we're, you know, talking about the ultimate draft kit and we're, you know, wanting to, well, first of all,

The draft is literally the most fun day of the year in fantasy football. But I've said this many times in the past. You don't win your championship at the draft. Last year we won the Sleeper Bowl, which, you know, Juju and Ninja and Tim the Tapman, we're the champions there. I believe our first round pick was Juju, and our third round pick was DeVant Freeman. Some injuries got in the way of those being good picks. And we won the championship. So stick with us. It will be a fun year. Jason.

Will the big shimmy slide whistle make a draft day appearance? Ooh, probably. I mean, this is who I am. More big shimmies and more slide whistles. Probably more slide whistles for y'all's picks. Every time you take some old injured guy, I'll give you a good slide whistle. Oh, I do that all the time. I had a CBS draft last night. AJ Green is now a member of my team once again.

Had him last year. He was the foundation of a championship team. He was your mascot last year. He was my mascot last year. And I brought him back. You did win the championship there, though. I did with AJ Green sitting on my bench and Michael Gallup in my lineup instead. Quick question of the day. Who has risen in your rankings the most during training camp? Jason. Hard knocks us tonight. And your answer.

Yeah. Oh, you got the hard knocks bump. Look, I might be getting the hard knocks bump, but it's a double up. It's not just the hard knocks bump. The player I've been rising on is Keenan Allen. I still, I mean, we knew coming into this year he's super talented, but super talented wide receivers when they have, you know, a team passing problem, they take a major step back for fantasy. That's what I've been projecting this year. But it's not just the bump of watching hard knocks and remembering.

man, he's good. He's not good. He's great. You know, he's one of those guys where it's like he will get open and he will be targeted and you will kill them. The reality is Mike Williams is injured to start the season. The targets will need to go his direction. The season will start with Tyrod Taylor, which I think if you look at my season long rankings, I have still.

the majority of the games going to Herbert, which I started. I started the second question that. Oh, I do not anymore. It's just a matter of wins and losses. If they get off to a bad start, I think that they will make the transition. But watching Hard Knocks shows me that this is Tyrod's team right now. And Herbert is the future, but they're looking at him that way as the future, not the current year present starter. So I will probably make that switch. But that's what I'm saying is that.

At some point, my rankings will account for Herbert, which I think will be a step down for Keenan Allen. Was it the Cleveland Browns Hard Knocks season when Tyrod was the starter there too? Do you remember Mike? I don't remember. Was that the season where we had the Browns Hard Knocks. Tyrod was there that year, right? I believe so. I believe so. So Tyrod has a history of being the guy on Hard Knocks.

Every league that I end up with Keenan Allen is my wide receiver too because the draft falls that way. I'm happy. Despite the doubt and the concern about the offense, I just end up, oh, okay. PPR-wise, that guy's great. All right, I have an answer that I wasn't expecting to have. It's Terry McLaren. I had him. Who! Whose guy is that? That's your guy, Mike. Yeah, y'all. I had him.

He's made the biggest rankings jump over the course of the last two months. I've always, you know, if you just watch a game of Terry McLaren playing football, you know the talent is there. But when I started to, you know, obviously he's been great in camp, he's their only wide receiver. It's what it comes down to. He's their only real target in the passing game. And this team is simply going to pass the ball a lot more than they did last year. Yes, they are.

And do I believe Terry McLaren can get separation at every level on a consistent basis? I do. Do I believe in Dwayne Haskins? Not really. But I didn't, I don't believe in Blake Bortles. And that didn't matter to Alan Robinson. And I don't, you know, necessarily believe that Jared Gough is a top 10 quarterback, but that doesn't matter to Robert Woods or Cooper Cup. So I think McLaren on pure volume has a great opportunity. And it'll just come down to...

Is this a four touchdown season, or is this a seven, eight touchdown season for Terry McLaren as to whether he can break into that top 12? But I think McLaren has risen up my rankings the most this offseason. The guy that has gone up my rankings the most is Damien Harris, I mean, especially when you started zero with like the expectation for Damien Harris, the running back for the New England Patriots, third round pick last year, was zero. Even the Damien Harris truthers.

on Twitter had gone full Homer Simpsons or Homer Simpson just going back into the bush like nothing to see here. Don't worry about me. I never said anything good about Harris. And then the injuries just kept stacking up for Sony Michelle. They signed Lamar Miller and it's like, well, okay, well, Damien Harris, still nothing to see. Lamar Miller immediately on to the pop list, although he is off now. But all camp reports from the beat reporters.

Damien Harris is tearing up training camp. He looks great in all facets of the game. He looks excellent catching the ball. His past protection is solid. He is one of the stars of camp. So he is a player that has risen the most of my rankings and someone who I am targeting at the back of drafts. If Damien Harris, if this just turns into a really fun offseason fluff piece, so be it.

But the fact that Damien Harris might be the leader of the timeshare for the New England Patriots in the double-digit rounds, that's very interesting to me. You were drafting for upside at that stage in your draft. If you miss, you miss. Right. It doesn't really matter. Now, I will say this. The bears are the odds on favorites to sign Leonard Fournet. The second team with the highest odds to sign them are the New England Patriots. According to, I think it's Odds Shark right now, who released those.

Numbers. That makes sense. Mike and I were looking yesterday at what teams in the NFL? Because we don't think Leonard Fournett is really that good. No, he's not. And we were like, what teams out there could actually be better off for signing him? And the Patriots were one of those teams we questioned, but perhaps they could benefit from that body type. I mean, they've done very well with a Legerrett Blunt back there before. And if there's one thing Leonard Fournette can do, it's LaGarrett Blunt. Yeah. Yeah. It's just amazing how.

Has the poster up on his wall? This was a can't miss prospect. This was a player that was drafted by Jacksonville ahead of Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson. Top five pick. And, you know, he's been okay for fantasy, but not a great player and not one that anyone was willing to trade even a seventh round pick for. With holes to fill on NFL teams all over the place and running back being the easiest place to trade for somebody to come in and play, he found.

No home. And I really think about it. A sixth, seventh round pick, the chance of that player, I know they were drafted, but seventh round picks don't make the team all the time, all the time. And the NFL team's like, nah, I'll take a chance on this player who probably won't be on my roster over taking on the salary for Leonard Fournette. That's rough. Is there a player that you've become a larger fan of who's risen most in your hearts?

In this off-season period, for me, it's been Joe Burrow. Okay. I find myself actively rooting for the outlier rookie season, the success in Cincinnati, all the glowing camp reports and just his work ethic. It's all been very positive. And I want him to supply AJ Green with targets.

But I'm actively rooting for Joe Burrow. It has nothing to do with my hope that A.J. Green returns to fantasy dominance. I like teams that, I mean, last year, Dalton Finley, they combine to throw their top 10 in pass attempts with that offense. I just think there's so much fantasy potential in Cincinnati. My team last night, I have mixing and A.J. Green on that team. So self-interest. All right. Jason, do you have somebody that has risen in your heart?

I can't really think of anyone specifically. I mean, obviously, I've always had an affinity for David Johnson, and I'm rooting for him as a person, as a man in his new location. But I don't know if there's anybody who is just, you know, I've grown brand new warm, fuzzy feelings for. No? I just have warm, fuzzy feelings for most players already. And then if I don't, it's not good. For that? Certainly not.

I guess Ronald Jones would be the answer from last season and beyond to this season. I am rooting for Ronald Jones, and I love the work ethic he's shown this offseason, living with his trainer, you know, going out and running the hills in Arizona in the summer. You know, those things show. This just in Ronald Jones has. I can't make that joke. It's hot in Arizona, though. Mike, you can't answer Blake Jarwin.

Oh. Was that your answer? It's always my answer. Andy, if you've been listening to the show, it's, for me, it's Devante Parker. I want the breakout to be real. Okay. We're all scared that it's not, as given as evidenced by his ADP, because if you were all in, if fantasy players were all in on that breakout being the truth, he would be a second round pick.