Stash or Trash + Rising Ranks, Kamara Concerns - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/1

I think he's going to call him a trash. Based on that reaction, for me, I am going to say trash because I don't believe that he has it left. I don't think he's going to get the role. And when I'm looking late, you know, I want someone who can win the entirety of a job. And I just don't believe that.

LaShawn McCoy can do that at this point. I think Ronald Jones is better at this point in their careers, especially as a runner, and they're going to need to utilize him. I mean, you know, there were games last year where LaShawn McCoy was benched, including the Super Bowl.

So it's one of those things where I respect Bruce Ariens. I know he wants the vet in there. I know that if Ronald Jones whiffs on some pass protection, Sean McCoy will be in that game. He will absolutely be put in your, you know, in that game. But will he ever be in your lineup in fantasy when that happens? And I don't think you'll ever be able to see.

either the follow-up game to a missed assignment or the mid-game switch to a mis-assignment. So you're going to have this player who will have a couple games of relevance, but I don't think you'll ever start him for that. I think he's a clog. I'm not necessarily stashing Lashon McCoy for what you're talking about, of thinking he's going to break into my lineup. This is someone I'm taking at the very back of the draft. And if we know anything about Bruce Ariens, he likes guys that are proven in pass protection, guys that can catch the ball.

They're not going to fumble. They're reliable. And he often finds himself enamored with guys who are, as you would say, washed. We saw it happen in Arizona when Chris Johnson, who he was fine. But he kept getting on the field over David Johnson, who was explosive and could make things happen. Like Ronald Jones, get Jones the ball in space. Better things will happen than at this point than if shady has.

the exact same scenario lineup. But the reason he's a stash for me is week one, Shady may come out, get a rushing touchdown, have 40 to 50 total yards, and then you might have a trade piece, someone that you can trade with someone else on your team and go get like a big upgrade, go steal someone's fifth round pick. That had a bad week one. Yes. Yeah, I think he's probably a trash for me.

I get the trade angle, but I'm not going to draft for that, I don't think. And it's like if Ronald Jones goes down, Lashaw McCoy's, you know, what's his ceiling? How much work does the rest of the backfield get in that situation? The ceiling, honestly, I'm trying not to be hyperbolic, but it's Tom Brady. Think about how much we have seen Tom Brady dumped the ball off to his running back. Now, it's a team new system. Will that continue? But I think it's worth taking the chance because the ceiling then is.

Shady gets 60 targets. All right. So Jason and I both put him in the trash category, Mike with the stash. Benny Snell, back up in Pittsburgh. All the camp reports about Benny Snell is that he's come back and he looks like a different player. He's shed about 12 to 15 pounds. He looks like, Jason, you brought up the fact that they were asking some beat reporters in Pittsburgh, you know, is the running back of 2021 on this roster?

They posed the question, do you believe it's James Connor, someone else on the roster or someone not on the roster, the lead back in 2021? Their answer was they believe it's going to be Benny Snell, that he's taken over as a locker room leader this year. He's come in fit and is looking faster, which that's important. He did not look very fast. But, you know, that's what's going on in Pittsburgh is that he's coming into year two, having taken it.

up a notch, and he looks like the clear second guy in line. And so this is a question of, I would not stash him as a hopeful player that it becomes a timeshare. I don't think Tomlin's going to do that. But I would consider in a deeper league stashing him as an insurance policy for a, you know, to be the backup for a running back who, I don't know, has had a few injury problems in his career. Per week.

Exactly. I mean, if you wanted to say, okay, the running backs that are out there who are great, who's the most risky, you know, maybe right now Alvin Kamara comes to mind, maybe he'll miss the season. James Connor has to be like top five for sure, maybe top one. Top one is up there. Contract issue for him next year, right? Yeah, James Connor. Yeah, James Connor is on the last year of his contract where it.

It's tough going with these two players because I think McCoy can just get into the starting role through someone else messing up. He can just or play his way into the starting role. Benny Snell cannot. But thinking about Fab, you know, like your free agent budget where you're trying to get these guys off the waivers. James Connor goes down. Misses time. It wins a vacation. Whatever.

How hard are you going after Benny Snell? Like, what kind of a drop are you putting on him? The difficult part is that we were here in a way, right? Like, it's cool to have a camp report that you look good. But we were here. James Connor missed time. We, we, Benny Snell was on rosters. It wasn't great. I mean, it wasn't something special. Now, Big Ben wasn't there. And he looked, the narrative street. But.

because we haven't seen Benny Snell come in and we don't know if Anthony McFarland gets work and we don't know if, you know, how good he looks. It's hard to, you know, fab-wise. Yeah, I mean, people would spend up if you knew he was gone for the year. I just don't know if he's somebody that I'm looking at.

betting on a week one injury he's a he's trash not stash for yeah i'm not i would not stash if if week one ronald jones and james connor were to go down i would certainly put my waiver claim or the more yes fab on benny snell so he's he's a stash for me i don't know if i would from the past catching sure i mean that that could be an issue um you know i mean look he he wasn't great he had three weeks last year the second half of the year when he got the opportunity where he was a top 21

24 back. You know, he was a RB2 or better, but they were, I mean, they were in the 18s, you know, they weren't special. Like a bunch of carries in a couple of those games. But again, I mean, you were playing without a quarterback with a terrible offense that had no scoring opportunities every single game. Let's go to wide receiver. Curtis Samuel, Stasher Trash. Last year, he was the, you know, if Godwin was the off season hype train that paid off, Samuel was the off season hype train that went into,

A ravine. I mean, it was not good for your fantasy roster. So are you looking at post-type sleeper rebound situation for Curtis Samuel, or does the acquisition of Robbie Anderson just kind of muddy those waters entirely? Stash or trash, late round Curtis Samuel shot. Like, would you believe, let me put it this way while you're thinking about it. Okay. Would you believe it if you start, if you start the year with a good Curtis Samuel game, are you really buying?

that as anything more than an outlier. That is an excellent point of, and I just talked about this yesterday. Like that confirmation week one bias, it's, it hits me right in the heart. If I draft Curtis Samuel late and he explodes week one, I've done it. I've done it again. You suckers at the draft did not take Curtis Samuel. I have him. You will never get him on your team. He is with me until the end. So that's like an unfortunate part.

of if you draft Curtis Samuel and he hits on week one, the heart will go all in on Curtis Samuel. And I think I have to protect my heart from that actually happening. So I am not going to be drafting Curtis Samuel. It's funny you say that. If he had a good week one, would you be in? I think I would almost be upset because I'd be like, well, I can't. I don't trust it enough to start him in your lineup the next week. To put him in my line up the next week. But now I can't cut him.

I mean, maybe you could trade him. That would be great. I would be willing to trade him in that situation. But I, you know, there's a lot of quality mouths to feed there. You know, DJ Moore is going to be the one. With Robbie Anderson there and Christian McCaffrey, I think Curtis Samuel has some big games, but I don't think he's going to be reliable. Who do you prefer Curtis Samuel or Robbie Anderson? I would prefer Robbie Anderson. Interesting. Just because of the money.

the system. He actually has more familiarity with this system from college. So, you know, it's one of those where I don't think I want the Curtis Samuel, but it's hard for me to say that because if you just say, do you believe in the talent of Curtis Samuel? I'd say, well, yeah, do you believe that the Carolina Panthers with Teddy Bridgewater could surprise and be a decent offense?

Yes, I do. So those things point me to say. Do you believe that Curtis Samuel could be anything more than the number three option in that offense over the course of the year? No. No. And that's the problem. Yeah. Here's the first stash for me, Nikiel Harry. Okay. Wide receiver for the New England Patriots. Okay. The connection between him and Cam Newton and Camp is reported to be very good. Yes. And I want the stash at the end of the draft where week one could validate a season long trend.

serve to potentially signify a season-long trend. If Nikiel Harry comes out, and let me give him a stat line, let's say he goes six for 110 and 1. Oh, my goodness. In week one, right? I can see the path where Nikil Harry is the valuable target in that offense for the rest of the season. That's what I'm looking for at the end of the draft. I am looking for upside. I'm looking for ceiling.

And if I don't get a week one with Nikiel Harry, he will find his way to the waiver. Yeah, is there any way that Nikiel Harry could be the number one option in that offense? Even with Julian Edelman there, I think there is a way that that happens. I certainly am not projecting that. And I have not really liked the camp reports. You know, there's some camp reports talking about, oh, there's a good connection there. The majority of camp reports just on Harry by himself.

is that he's had mental errors and has not always looked very good. So it's not been a glowing camp for Nikol Harry. But your point, Andy, you've got to look at what happens week one for any of these guys. If they just go out and stink, well, okay, we cut them. But what if they go out and have a good week? Does it help your roster? Does it turn into someone that you believe you can start? Does it turn into someone that the league will validate and say,

I could trade for him, and I think Nikila Harry does fit that mode. And I want to remind people what fantasy relevance meant to a Cam Newton target in Kelvin Benjamin. Because you think of, oh, Benjamin was fantasy relevant. That equated to a 50% catch percentage, 63 and 73 receptions in the two relevant years, nine touchdowns, seven touchdowns. Do I think Nikol Harry can catch 63 passes for seven touchdowns? Yeah.

On 50% of his targets. I think he can do that. He's a big dude. And the first round capital back set up. Yeah. And, you know, fun trivia fact here that I'm just finding out. Nikiel Harry, born in Toronto, Canada. Wow. So bonjour. That changes things. Significantly. Now I'm a stash for sure. All right. So wait. Final answer, though. Nekeel Harry, stash or trash? I think he's a stash. I'm going to stash him. Okay. Let's.

There's one, before you move on, because we're talking about all these wide receivers that are going right in the same area, there's one guy that I would put ahead of both of those two for me as my stash. And that would be Bashad Perriman. Really? Yes. Even with all the injuries. He's very hurt right now. Yeah, I mean, that is an issue, but the Jets are very hurt right now. Chris Herndon is very hurt right now. And my point, you know, we talk about Jameson Target and saying he's the only guy there.

Oh, no. But Brashad Perryman did the Devante Parker last year. He, at the end of the season, he looked like what he was drafted to be, goes and signs in a vacated Robbie Anderson spot. I just, I believe, I guess here's what. That's super valuable, Robbie Anderson spot? Here's why. I, I, I think that the odds of Brashad Perryman hitting this year.

are slightly higher than the odds of Nikiel Harry hitting this year. Interesting. Just because, you know, Muhammad Sunu is still there. Julian Edelman is still there. I mean, you know, I, I'm not confident that the Patriots are going to throw a lot. I think they're going to use Cam Newton's skills. They're very, they're very similar to me. Obviously the draft. Stash Perryman for you, Mike.