Stash or Trash + Rising Ranks, Kamara Concerns - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/1

because that's how dominant he was for fantasy at the end of the year. I want it to be real. I want Devante Parker to succeed. All right. We'll talk more about him in a moment. A couple of reminders. Did I miss a note on Devante Parker? Yeah, you did. No. Well, not really. I mean, he's just not practicing. Fantasy MVP episode is tomorrow. Tomorrow, the fantasy MVP episode. We will share our fantasy football MVPs for 2020. We will have the.

privilege of being joined by 10 industry experts with their fantasy MVP picks. Well, three of them are us. Those are the best three. Experts and we're three of them. If you're drafting this week, this weekend, Ultimate DraftKit.com. And now we're joined by Jason Moore of the fantasy footballers. Oh, I've never thrown to myself. That would be fun. News and notes from around the league. All right.

Let's talk about the big news yesterday, the headline news, the concerning news. Adam Schefter reporting. Alvin, Alvin Camara, unexcused absence from training camp the last three days, contract related. Believed, allegedly. Per sources. Confirmed via his $2.1 million this year contract. I mean, we have faced this down with Alvin Cook, Joe Mixing, Alvin Camara now.

How concerned are you? Are you drafting him? Let's put it that way. We have big time drafts coming up. Well, you know, we just drafted him thanks to mostly me. We had three different players we were looking at at the number four spot. I won the argument.

Here's the thing that's really upsetting about that argument is this was his third missed practice. How did we not hear about this till day three? Give us some update on day one and two. Yeah, I would change. I mean, we were close. You know, we were looking at Dalvin Cook. We were looking at Clyde Edwards-A-Lare. I would certainly draft those guys over Camara. How wild is it? If you're talking about pure risk, when you're talking about those three players, like, okay.

Who do you know 100% is going to be there on week one? It's the rookie. Like the other guys, I still think they're going to be there. You're talking a very, very high percentage chance that they're there. But how wild is it now that the rookie is the one that is carrying the lower risk? I, yeah, it's wild. And to calm the fears of many that have already drafted Alvin Camara, I agree with Mike. I think he will play. I mean, there's not a lot of options.

for a player in this situation. There's the option of sitting out some practice so you don't get hurt as you're negotiating a contract. But if you don't play, according to the CBA, the team can, you know, submit a request for you to come back. And if he doesn't play, he's not going to toll a year and he's not going to become a free agent. He's not going to get paid. He's going to have to play under the same amount of money next year, which is the problem for Dalvin Cook, which is the problem for any of these guys. But what do you make about August 17th, 2020?

10.59 a.m. Alvin Camara on Twitter. Sorry in advance. I want to believe he had some Chipotle that morning. And it was a warning for the afternoon. To himself. It was an all around him. Yeah, I will say this, similar to, you know, the advice we gave. It's not good, though. When you're drafting Dalvin Cook, you want to get Alexander Madison because it's not a shared, you know, 1A, 1B. It's a.

We know who the next man up is. If you are drafting Alvin Camara, definitely target Latavius Murray in case Camero decides to take a hit in the money department and miss one or two weeks. Because if he misses the first two weeks, like he missed, you know, week seven and eight last year due to injury, Latavius Murray was the running back two and the running back three those two weeks. It's like an automatic difference maker. I was in an industry draft last night and I didn't know where to take Latavius Murray.

I'm sitting there trying to make that decision. Like how far is he going to drop? Where is normal ADP is? I didn't get a chance to get him. But like you said, if Camara misses a couple weeks or if the team, you know, you don't show up, you don't practice. That week, one, week two? Do you have the same workload? I will say I am not nearly as fully convinced that Latavius Murray will come in and be a three-down running back. I know this is a deep cut.

But Ty Montgomery is there. Ty Montgomery has a more comparable skill set to Alvin Camara than Latavius Murray. I think that Murray will be the primary guy, but I don't think it's all of a sudden Latavius Murray is getting 70, 80% of the touches. That's a fair name to be aware of. In camp, I know that...

Ty Montgomery's been playing more as a wide receiver than as a running back and, you know, getting involved in that way. But he is a talented guy who was not there last season. All right. He went, Latavius Murray went in the eighth round of the industry mock last night. Interesting. 10th pick of the eighth round. Would you, I mean, is that, would you take him higher than that? No. No. I would not. That is about the highest I would take him. Would you take Latavis Murray today or Kerry on Johnson today? I would take Kerry on Johnson.

Yeah, probably carry on. He's projected to be the week one starter. And if Camer comes back tomorrow, then your Latavius Murray piece is nothing but insurance. To be clear, we're just relaying the facts of what is out there and trying to prognosticate a little bit. I am still very much on the side that Alva Camer is going to be there week one. This is just, this sucks for fantasy drafts that have already happened to put that doubt in your heart and the ones that are.

are coming up, but I'm moving forward that Alvin Camara is still there, week one. The Cameron Wolf report I was alluding to, Mike. Another day, Devante Parker isn't practicing. It's been a week now. He's riding an exercise bike. He's not in uniform. Oh. So it's been a week. I mean, I knew he had missed some time, but he's still not back out on the field. That stinks. Yeah. Miles Sanders struggling through a hamstring injury. Adam Kaplan talking about the hamstring.

He was spotted Sunday doing shadow drills, and I am, I mean, obviously I know what that means, so I'm not going to explain it. I'd like to believe it means shadow boxing. You know, because one, that's a great workout. It's tried and true. Two, it's going to up your self-defense should run into a back alley problem. I like to believe that he has a needle and thread, and he's trying to stitch his shadow on a la Peter Pan. I don't think he's...

Any of those things, actually. Oh, all right. But are you concerned about his availability week one? He hasn't practiced since August 18th in full. Is Boston Scott going to have a bigger week one workload? Is it Cory Clement? Is it grimace face, McGee? Yes. Yes. Grimmest face, McGee. I'm hearing great things about him. Yeah, I mean... It's not good. Look, I think that all the other running backs who are currently...

healthy and out there, the Derek Henry's, Nick Chubbs, Josh Jacobs, Joe Mixins. I'm taking them ahead of Miles Sanders right now because of this, but he does represent a gigantic tier up from, to me, from the giant question mark players that have switched teams and are older. So I will still take Miles Sanders at the end of that, you know, upper tier of running backs.

All right. And then bummer for Chargers fans, Derwin James, needs surgery, going to miss six to eight months. He's such a good player, such a disappointing injury. Any other news that you guys want to bring up? Lamar Miller is off the pub, like you said. I'd say the only other one to watch because we love him as a light round tight-end sleeper. Chris Herndon got banged up in practice. It is some kind of chest issue. Adam Gay said he had chest.

tightness. We're not sure if it's related to some of the rib and lung problems he had last year, but this is something you need to pay attention to. Perhaps maybe you're taking your late round tight end shot at somebody else. And that tight end, I hope, can somehow be Jameson Crowder. Because if he's just going to end up a PPR monster. You are not wrong. If Chris earned and misses time, like we've liked James and Crowder as a floor draft pick in that

eight, nine range, especially in PPR. But if Chris Heron is not there, James the Target, or James the Target, that's exactly what he would be. James and Target, you'd have to throw him the ball. And honestly, it raises Lev Bell a little bit just because of his past catching ability. Let me Jameson Target. Yeah, that's true. Let me read to you a tweet from Beat Rider in New York. I don't know if you guys saw this. Starting Jets offense working against the backup. Six possessions scored zero points, turned it over three times.

punted three times, picked up five total first downs on six drives, lost 27 to nothing to the backups. Well, here's the thing. They know all the plays. It's definitely related to that, not just overall stinkiness. It does bring some like PTSD forward from watching them play last year. Their offense was atrocious. The only other news I would bring up before we move on is Amari Cooper.

has not been participating in team drills for, I haven't seen today's practice report, but the last three practices, Amari Cooper has been doing individual workouts. Mike McCarthy was asked, are you concerned? He said, no, not at all. But, you know, it's something to be aware of because I haven't really seen it reported widely outside of Dallas, but they're, you know, everyone's wondering what's going on with Amari Cooper a little bit. Yeah, no, that makes sense.

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very, very back of draft options and whether or not you believe they're worth tacking on the end of your bench, whether you think you'd be holding them to see what happens. And, you know, I can tell you from drafting yesterday, there are a ton of players in this category where you're thinking, do I want to give this guy a chance to develop, this guy a chance to develop? Is this a floor play? Is this a ceiling play? So let's start it running back. He was once the slippery fish. What is he now? Lisham Koy.

Ouch. Ouch, Andy. Just smacking your funny bone. He just went full macho man off the top ropes and took out your microphone stand. My right hand is numb. Oh, my. Fully numb. No respect for our equipment over here. Just what did that? I mean, I'm telling you. So was that the microphone stand or the table that you hit? No, that was the microphone stand. I don't know why LaShawn McCoy got me so angry. Screw this stand.