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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Early WR Part 2 + NFL.com's Matt Harmon

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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Early WR Part 2 + NFL.com's Matt Harmon

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We're back. The three of us have returned. Plus one today. Oh, that is true. We have a very special guest on the show. Later today, do not miss it. Matt Harmon is on the podcast today. Look, the Foot Clan has demanded that good friend of the show Matt Harmon returned.

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And he has. And we got... Well, and there's really no better episode for Mount Harmon to join us than... Blah, blah, yeah. Perfection. Mike, I think, yeah, if they could have seen you, you're making... We have a video show. This is for the YouTubers. Yeah, but for everybody that was listening, here's one like I was smooching, Matt Harmon. No, it didn't sound like a kiss. It wasn't... It was... It was... Yeah, that was like a vomit sound. That was terrible. So, but now that it's been explained, Mike was...

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He was doing almost the delicious food. The Italian. I started like I was vomiting? That's all right. It didn't sound good. Despite that introduction, we have a great show, we've got our second half of the wide receiver. We went through one through eight on the last show. And we've got...

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9 through 16 on the show today. We're also talking with Matt Harmon about a number of players that really, these are guys that are either hot topics or guys that we have a little bit of a divergent opinion about. So you'll want to listen in because nobody knows more about wide receivers, how they, nobody watches more film than Matt Harmon. And he's just a really good analyst and somebody that you want to hear from. We only try to bring the best guys on here. So we've got, that's the show.

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Those are the two big pieces of the show. If you want to follow us, you can do so on Twitter at the FFBallers on the web, the fantasy footballers.com. And I will tell you this, we've got our, I think I said on the last show that we'll have our rankings. By the end of April.

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I imagine that will be sooner. Oh, yeah. They're coming, and they're coming pretty. And there have been a lot of people who, last year, they followed the rankings. That's obviously one of the bigger parts on the website is you want to see the rankings. Our draft rankings are much improved this year. We're going to have every position, every scoring format. They're going to be, you'll be able to pull them up on your phone really easily. And so, you know, print out a list if you need it, PDF and everything. And that's all free on the website. So stay tuned for that. They are coming quickly.

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And I'm excited about that, and they'll be updated and changed as the draft happens and some of the rookies land and the different destinations that they're going to. So I'm excited about that. Quick question for the day, guys. Steve Smith. Steve Smith is a wide receiver. Oh, seven. I thought the question was just Steve Smith is A, and I was going to. Which you had a line?

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I was going to sidestep and say Steve Smith is a Hall of Fame wide receiver. I was going to say Steve Smith is a retired Hall of Famer. Oh, he's not retired. Oh, I know, but I don't look. Your doubts are strong and mine are not strong.

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To answer the quick question for me, from my perspective, I don't have him coming back strong. I know he's been just an absolute juggernaut at the old age. But coming off the specific injury that he has at his age, you bring in other guys. I don't see the Ravens holding on to having Steve Smith be the guy there. So I don't expect anything big from him. He is certainly a guy.

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We talk about it all the time. You've got to know those guys that you've got to be okay being wrong on. You don't take them. Maybe you are wrong. I'm fine being wrong on Steve Smith. There is no team he would be on. I don't know that I would take Steve Smith. This is just me.

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And I think it might sound a little hyperbolic. But I'm not sure I would take Steve Smith with my third to last pick. I feel like there's other guys that I don't think Steve Smith's going to do anything this year. Interesting. I think that is a very fair assessment of Smith. I want to remind people he had a double rupture of the Achilles tendon. In fact, the doctor came out and told him he. How do you double? He said, he said, quote, the tendon exploded. And Steve Smith, in response was that he does, just like everything else, he did it to the fullest.

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when he came to tearing his Achilles tendon. And so he has to come back from a very serious injury. And I think the bigger point there is what Jason said, is that whether or not he can, which he's as hard a worker as there is. That man doesn't have blood in his body. He has gasoline. Yeah, he does do everything to the fullest. He works hard.

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But it's more what Jason said about relying. The team's not going to put themselves in a position to rely on that, I think. No, they got Breshad Perman coming back. So you know who's not cleared yet? Oh, yeah, I did see that. Well, they got Mike Wallace now. They also have Kamar Aiken. They have Kamar Aiken. Second half of the season, could you see Steve Smith being a waiver-wire guy that could give you those... Because when Steve Smith goes big, he goes big. Yeah, I mean, it's like a deep...

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And he was having a great season. 200 yards, something like that. He was the two seasons ago, he was a monster. Last year, it was the, okay, he's old, he's even older, can he keep it going? And he did. He was having a great season before he tore, double ruptured the Achilles. He was born in the 70s.

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Yeah, just throwing that out there. He was born in the 70s. He will be 37 this year. I am not older than Steve Smith. Yeah. We're young. But if I agree. I think that he could be a second half waiver type of a guy or someone that you just hold if your bench is big enough.

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And you know the long play is he could come around the second half. And it would be a different story if Steve Smith was coming back to a team like Arizona who already had established other wide receivers. And not to discredit Kamar Akin. I had him last year, believe it or not. And I played him. But Kamar Akin isn't a... He's no Steve Smith. No, he's not an upper tier, upper echelon guy. Perriman's unproven. Mike Wallace takes 95% of the plays off. So...

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I would rather have Steve Smith. If he's back on the field, I feel like they're expecting something from him. So just an interesting name to throw out there because it's one we're not talking about on the show today. Certainly not in our top 16. Maybe not our top 60. We'll see. But let's, we don't have, there's not a lot of news out there. I want to get right into the wide receivers because we have Matt Harmon coming on the show. And so let's do that right now.

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wide receivers. All right, let me run back our top eight in case you missed the show on Tuesday, which, by the way, you really shouldn't miss any shows. If you miss it, go back and listen. If you missed it, you can easily find it on it. It's very, very easy. On your podcast provider. That's right. Antonio Brown, number one, Julio Jones, number two, Odell Beckham Jr. number three, does Brian, number four, AJ Green, five, D'Andre Hopkins, six, Mike Evan, seven, and Brandon Marshall coming in at number eight.

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That is our consensus rankings. So when you take all of our individual rankings, average them together, that's what we're bringing you on the show. When we have the rankings up on the website, you will be able to go sort by each of us individually. Most listeners go, they sort by my rankings, and then they win their championship. They say, okay, avoid these. Jeremy Maclin says, you're wrong. The dirty cake. The dirty cake is bad. All right, so number nine.

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We wanted to talk about him. We just plain couldn't because he ended up at number nine. So Alan Robinson comes in at number nine on our consensus rankings coming off an 80 catch season in which he had 1,400 yards and a monstrous 14 touchdowns. And so let me preface your guy's comments with this. We love Alan Robinson as a player. He's 22 years old and he did some amazing things last year. I think one of the things I loved about him most.

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is that Blake Bortle seemed to force him the ball in the red zone, and it worked. And I really like that about a guy at that age making plays. He's obviously got the physical tools to do it. I say all that because I know that most of this conversation with him at number nine is going to sound a little ho-hum about Alan Robinson. And so I'm going to let you guys take it away, but Alan Robinson, huge monster, monster year, 80 for 1,414. Yep.

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So what do we get this year? We were huge fans of him last year. If you listen last year, you know he's being drafted right now as the sixth best wide receiver, obviously from our consensus. So that's not too far where we have. No, but we think he's a little bit overdrafted. I said, I believe, incorrectly. We were corrected on Twitter. Shout out. I wish I knew the handle.

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that he had a lot of touchdowns that came over 20 yards when, in fact, I believe the stat was 12 of his touchdowns came in the red zone. But he did have the most catches of 20 plus yards with 31 total on the year. So there's the question here of really when you only have 80 catches.

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And you have 14 touchdowns. There seems to be this lopsided thing that isn't making sense. You also have to keep in mind that the first half of the year, Julius Thomas, who became a red zone target later in the year, was not there to collect any of those. You also have to keep in mind that they had no one that could run the ball in.

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for a touchdown when they got down there. Remember the three carries? They actually probably had a guy they just chose not to use him. Sure, but your point is accurate. There was, uh, do you know how many rushing touchdowns they had that were not Blake Bortals? One? The number's got to be. Three. Yeah, as you say, it's got to be really low. Three! Two for Yeldin and one for Dernard. So Gerhardt never got in. No. He had lots of tries on one play. The only, Gerhardt's getting into Sizzler. That's where he's getting into.

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