WR Rankings Part Two + Buy/Sell, Sam Bowie'd - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/12

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Let's get into some buy-sell. Buy or sell, presented by pristine auction. We have another wide receiver rankings show today, and our buy-sell follows that theme, and Brooks has chosen three guys outside of our top 20 for today's buy-sell segment. So buy or sell, these wide receivers, to outperform their current average draft position, starting with...

The man with a strange clavicle. Keenan Allen. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, a lot of bit. That's not how an arm should look. Well, Matthew Betts, our injury guy, did post about it on Twitter, and he said, don't worry about it. Yeah, we're referring to Keenan Allen on Zoom on hard knocks, which was, it's like the equivalent of the wide receiver with the fingers that are all bent the wrong way. This was like...

Taking it to the next level. We know it's not supposed to look like that. His shoulder grew something special. His current average app position is the wide receiver 21. Will Keenan Allen outperform that ADP by herself? Keenan Allen might be the absolute hardest wide receiver to rank this year because he's a great player. He's an elite route runner. He deserves volume. But he...

He has to see that volume. And aside from, like, I think his rookie year, you know, he was hitting off big plays. But since then, it's just been, he needs volume. And will he actually get that if it's Taylor as the quarterback or if it's Herbert at quarterback? And we just don't know. I currently have him ranked two spots behind his ADP. But, like, his range of outcomes is.

He's a great wide receiver. It's wild to me. Like he could, could he be a top 12 wide receiver? Yeah, it's not without the realm of possibility. I mean, if Tyrod Taylor ends up being the starter for the whole season, which I think is a realistic outcome. It looks okay. If that were to happen and Keenan goes a little bit deeper and isn't just the possession guy, he could finish there. I don't have that happening. So Mike, did you sell or did you buy? I passed it over to Jason. This one's tough. I'm going to sell.

I project that Herbert will get on the field at some point. I think that the deep threat will stay Mike Williams. This is not buy sell pass. No, no, no. I'm selling. Mike? Yeah. Come on. Look, I would, I just, I set him up with an incredible argument. I laid out all the sides of it. And you're responsible for nothing. No, I was making it way easier for Jason. Andy has brought this.

up in the past, but I want to bring the specificity to it. Larry Fitzgerald in the middle of his prime, obviously great route runner, great hands, best, you know, maybe the second best wide receiver of all time. In the middle of his prime, after finishing fantasy wide receiver five and well before coming back with, you know, three in a row top 12 years, when he had bad quarterback play, he was the wide receiver 37, 17, and 52 in back to back to back years. In his prime.

Well, here's the thing. I heard of 17 in there. Here's a spoiler alert. I'm going to buy that all three of these players outperform their ADP. The reason that they have this ADP is because I'm not going to know when they're going to do the damage. The Tyrod Taylor Factor with Keenan Allen, I am not confident that Keenan will be a consistent fantasy output. He will ball out because he's great. The other two guys on the list?

Julian Edelman at Wide Receiver 30. Michael Gallup at Wide Receiver 32. I think all three of these will outperform their ADP, assuming they don't get hurt. Do I think I'll be able to predict when it happens? No. I don't have confidence in that. So would you draft them at their ADP? You're on the clock. You're right here at their average draft value. Will you put them on your...

fantasy roster. I mean, it's hard to look at Julian Edelman who finished as the wide receiver 10 last year. Michael Gallup, who finished at wide receiver 22 last year. Look at them in the seventh round and say, I'm not going to draft them. I mean, I, sure. I mean, those names are going to be hard to, Keenan Allen is going to be hard to pass up in the fifth round when I'm staring down that name versus somebody else that has been less proven. But, yeah, I mean, I draft all of them at their draft position.

I think the only person that I'm going to draft at their draft position is Michael Gallup. If you look at the situation of all three of these guys, it's gotten worse for Edelman, gotten worse for Keenan Allen, which is why they're lower. But for Michael Gallup, I don't believe his situation's gotten worse. He's coming into year three, same system, same quarterback. Now, perception is that it's gotten worse because C.D. Lamb has come in, but I don't think that hurts him. What about the Blake Jarwin Target Hog?

Well, I mean, you lost Jason Witten and you lost Randall Cobb, 83 targets each. Jarwin is going to get his. I hope he gets 83 targets. A week. Yeah. It's Jarwin seasoned. So the only one you're buying is Michael Gallup in terms of drafting, Mike. I'm willing to draft all three of these guys. I mean, Keenan Allen, who's three straight years as a top 12 wide receiver. I get it. You know, bringing up the cop to Larry. Look.

Taylor is an adequate quarterback. It's not that he is bad at all. It's the volume. Would the volume get there? Well, is he willing to check down a little bit more to keep his eyes down field without running? Because that's part of Taylor's game. That's why he's good at doing what he...

But he does. So this is not Derek Anderson. We went down this road and now Sammy's proven to be inconsistent forever. But Sammy Watkins was a top 15 wide receiver draft capital-wise when Tyrod was there and destroyed people's fantasy league. Yeah. Mahomes can't even get Sammy Watkins to do anything. I am glad. Taylor can. I am glad you bring up the fact, though, that the comp to Larry isn't completely fair because this isn't an atrocious quarterback. Yes.

We don't know what he is right now. I mean, the last time we saw him out there on the field. He was not great for Cleveland. It has been a while. We know 3,000 yards is probably the peak of what you'd get from Tyrod Taylor. So, yeah, those are the question marks. It's funny, though, that you selected the guy who finished wide receiver 22 and not either of the guys that were in the top 10 last year. If they were to take a step back significantly, maybe they'd be at 22.

I mean, arrow up versus arrow down. I look to the future, my friends. Hey, Gallup is an arrow sideways for me. I'm in with Gallup. And I got to apparently adjust my... You're going to get him everywhere then. Yeah, I'm with it. And I'm with Julian Edelman, too. I think, like, Cam, I believe Cam is ready to go. And the last time we saw a healthy Cam, he was a different quarterback. He was an accurate quarterback. And Julian Edelman's coming off the most yards of his career. He...

Look, injury risk, absolutely. But as my wide receiver two or even three, I'm with that. We could have bought or sold like 10 question marks per player. Oh, yeah. Just each question.

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From my understanding, most of the episode was dominated by that storyline. It was. What was your reaction to the episode? My reaction on it was actually optimism. I mean, we're all inundated with COVID news nonstop. Never heard of it. So I get the fact that people when they're watching it, they're like, oh, here we go again, more COVID news. But it, look, the NFL, they're showing you what the NFL wants you to see, of course. But they really do look like they are.

taking the steps that they can take and they can control. Obviously, they're going to be on the field running into each other, breathing on each other, spitting on each other. You can't prevent contact then. But all the other times, they're working on it, man. I love seeing McVeigh up there saying, guys, we got to be better at this. I need to be better at this. Please hold me accountable. And the fact that Lynn jumped on that Zoom meeting at the beginning of the episode said,