WR Rankings Part Two + Buy/Sell, Sam Bowie'd - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/12

And that is the buoy in which I believe this turn of phrase is based upon, not the Sam Bowie of the Portland Trailblazers. Cannot confirm, but likely. But likely. This is where I look it up and it's a Sam Bowie reference. Moving forward in the episode, third most targets among wide receivers last year, 154 targets.

is ridiculous. And he had a couple of seasons like that in Jacksonville with 150 plus. So I think, I know, I know the reason the disparity in our rankings exist is based upon that number. It's based upon the belief that, for Mike and myself, that he is going to be the same thing he's been, you know, that he was last year, which is a target monster. He was the original, by the way. Yes. On the show, the target monster.

and that he's a great wide receiver, and those things kind of just raise you to the top. That does beg the question. We looked at, you know, someone like Keenan Allen, and we took him down a peg because of the... Well, different quarterback. Sure. But we saw a really different Mitch Trubisky last year than the year before. Not sure who we're going to have this year. Which one do you want? The one that he was great with or the one that looked promising?

You're saying two years ago where he almost went to the playoffs. Exactly. But Alan Robinson wasn't quite as great then. I mean, he's, Alan Robinson's a great wide receiver. I want Mitch Trubisky from two years ago because I don't think Alan Robinson's snap percentages are, I think they're going to mimic what they were last year when he played 16, when he was on the field 94% of the time. That means it needs to run. They need to run. No, Mitchell Trubisky needs to run. Gotcha. When he's running around, they can win games. When he's not, they won't.

He's just an unstoppable wide receiver when you give him the opportunity. I'm definitely the lowest here. I've talked about this before. I'm not as confident as you guys in the target volume, but I did want to play a quick game. Of course you do. All right. All right. Here we go. This game's called Alan Robinson or Tyler Boyd.

Here we go. Okay. This is data from the last two seasons, 2018 and 2019. All right. Yards per game. Who had more? Alan Robinson or Tyler Boyd. Tyler Boyd. Robinson. Handy, you are correct. It was Tyler Boyd. All right. The two year span, Tyler had a pretty impressive. Okay. He did. He did. This is more about how these two gentlemen play the game. Yards per reception.

Alan Robinson or Tyler Boyd. That's probably, I'm going to go Alan Robinson. Alan Robinson. It is Tyler Boyd. Okay. Now let's get to the fantasy. The meat. Touchdowns. I don't like this very much. Yeah. Welcome to that side of it. You're to blame for this segment altogether. All right. Alan Robinson or Tyler Boyd touchdowns in the last two seasons. Ah.

Alan Robinson? Alan Robinson. It is Tyler Boyd. All right. Here we go. Top 24 fantasy finishes. Alan Robinson or Tyler Boyd. Yeah, this is going to be Tyler Boyd. I don't play your game. Alan Robinson. My game is great. It is Tyler Boyd. All right. Bust games. This is exactly how Jason would play this game, which is all the answers are his guy. Who has more bust games, Tyler Boyd or Alan Robinson?

Probably Alan Robinson, Jason. I've stuck with one answer. Alan Robinson? Well, he's tied. They both have 14 bus games. All right. And this is in a total of, Alan Robinson has only one fewer game, 29 and 30. So they've both missed about the same amount of games. This is the point that is, I, now granted, the outlook here, you're getting A.J. Green back and Tyler Boyd's outlook for this season isn't quite as rosy.

But I do think that... So you're drafting Boyd over Alan Robinson. That's what I heard. My game of Montgomery versus Todd Gurley, I'm drafting Montgomery. That was my whole point. Your whole point is you're just trying to disparage a man. One of these guys is being drafted as the 12th wide receiver. And one of these guys is left for dead in drafts. That's my point. And I think that my real point is that two years ago, Alan Robinson. Yes, he was coming off of an ACL. So was Cooper Cup.

This past year, there's no excuses there. That is just being completely thrown out. And I think that the truth of fantasy is in the middle of the last two years for Alan Robinson. Last year, I think Tyler Boyd was Writers Year 23. Alan Robinson was 11. It's interesting. I mean, it was a good year for Allen and Robinson, but they were a team that couldn't run the football.

Mr. Biscay struggled. The defense wasn't as strong as it was the year before when they were a shutdown defense, which I think they, you know, they obviously want to get back to that style of play that got them very close to, you know, a Super Bowl as opposed to last year's style of play, which got them close to firing their head coach or something of that nature. Right. Yeah, I mean, you could be right. You know, 11 might be the ceiling with someone like Mr. Biscay. But what's the ceiling with Nick Foles or Sam Bowie?

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and I hate my ranking. I don't like it at all. Good, because I don't like it either. No, I mean, it's absolutely my least favorite ranking. You're coming clean right now. Oh, yeah. I mean, I want the truth to be known here for the Foot Clan that I don't like where I have Mike Evans. I've got him down for just over 1,000 yards and eight touchdowns, but it puts him at my wide receiver 19. And Mike Evans is not a good wide receiver.

He's a great wide receiver. He has the record right now for consecutive thousand-yard seasons. He's literally never not had a thousand-yard season. He has an upgraded quarterback. I like Mike Evans. I hate my ranking. I just don't know how to get him up in my rankings while being honest. Let's surface some of the concerns or what you're getting. You open up the package and Mike Evans.

It has 67 receptions last year, 1,100 yards, 8 touchdowns, 118 targets. We know that he's a great wide receiver. We also know he shares the field with another great wide receiver who's at number 5 on yesterday's episode, Chris Godwin, who's also, have you seen the level of hype that Tom Brady has been putting out on the Twitter? I have not. He's become quite the hype master. It's practice highlights. It's.

Yeah, you know, this pass to Gronk, this pass to Evans, this pass to Godwin. Good for you, Tom. And honestly, it's got me a little bit. I mean, he just looked, he just looks so. Tom Brady's got a level of determination that is unmatched. I mean, you look at what makes players great historically, and it's just this concentration of will.

And he's got it. And he's getting me on the hype videos because I just saw him connect with Chris Godwin yesterday. How concentrated is he if he's spending all this time on social media? That's his team, Mike. Yeah, that's the TB12 tweets. But you did have what your experience with Mike Evans last year involved ups and downs. It involved disappearing acts, even on a team that passed as much as they did, even on a team with James Winston throwing as many touchdowns as he did. There were weeks.

Mike Evans disappeared because he is not going to be a hundred catch type of player. He's going to be a down-the-field type of guy, which is something that, now you can blame the weapons, you can blame the age. Tom Brady has struggled a little bit more getting the ball downfield. Maybe he hasn't had the weapons to do it. He's good at it, but he didn't do it as often. Yeah, he didn't do it as often. He went deep just over 10% of the time compared to James, who was nearly at 16% of his passes.

Tom Brady had a pass rating over 100 when he was going deep. Well, he picks his spots. Yeah. And, I mean, that's, that was the system he was in. This is, once again, we have Bruce Aryan system versus other player what they have done in the past because last year it was O.J. Howard. No, will they use O.J. Howard? And the answer was they keep saying they want to use O.J. Howard.

But they did not. But Tom Brady, I mean, we've seen other quarterbacks come into the Bruce Arian system and then change how they play. Like Carson Palmer put up numbers that he had not put up in a very, very long time once he was in the Bruce Arian system. So this, I still believe in Mike Evans and Jason's ranking is doo-doo.

Yeah, no, it's tough because, you know, we saw when Aryans came to Arizona. They moved Larry Fitzgerald to the slot, and the slot was a masterful weapon for fantasy production. And then, lo and behold, Chris Godwin proved that to be true here. So it's the combination of the deep passing question marks with Tom Brady. Can he do it? And the slot propensity of Tom Brady and the Aryan system that I think leads me to have this low of a ranking. But at the same time,

Brady will take advantage of his best weapons. He is smart. He knows when Mike Evans has a guy beat and he's got one-on-one coverage and he's going to put it up for him. And guess what? Mike Evans is going to get the ball. So it's one of those things where I will draft Mike Evans ahead of my ranking here. Look at the tier that he's in. Read the blurb that we write about him and get the context to the ranking because he's good. And I do wonder this. This is...

somewhat anecdotal, but I'm going to try to find the research. I feel like from memory, the deep passing over the last couple of years for Tom Brady and Drew Brees has been much better in the first half of the year than the second half of the year. I want to be able to back that up. Right now, it's just from memory. I'll try to research this after the show, but I'm wondering if that means Evans could get off to a stronger start than anticipated and maybe Wayne in the second half of the year.

James had 99 deep attempts last year. If you want to know why you should question Mike Evans, there were four times you were happy playing him last year. Based on your expectations. You drafted Mike Evans to be great. He played on a team that threw the ball more than almost anybody, had more deep attempts than anybody in football, four times he finished inside the top 24. That would be the indictment. Five. Five times. Can I apologize? Can I get six. No, it's five. It's five. He went from...

But each one of those times he was a top 10 guy. So he's a weak winner. He's like, you know, we talked about Tyree Kill, the fact that he busts sometimes. Are you comfortable with him as your wide receiver one? No, I'm not. No, I'm not either. Even Mike who's the highest, doesn't really want Mike Evans as his one. And he's being drafted as the wide receiver eight. I don't like the ADP. Yeah, he's not going to be on my team. It leaves very little room for margin. You know what my ranking. And Gronkowski is going to be a goal line threat. I don't say whatever you want about Rob Grancowski.

I can promise you Tom Brady is going to look to the one guy he's played with in the red zone a lot. Yeah, my ranking's going to save a lot of people here. You're a hero. I mean, I like Mike Evans at a vet. Like where I've got him ranked, I'm like too low. But if you're telling me wide receiver eight is where I've got to draft him, you're paying for. Absolutely not. This has come full circle. All right, DJ Chark. Mike Evans or Mike Evans. Want to play a game? DJ Chark comes in at.