Fantasy Football - NFC South Breakdown + Stinky Treasures - Podcast for 7/19

And I went into the scouting process, and I will admit, I don't believe I am the best scout of quarterbacks. He has a master's degree. Two of them. Thank goodness. Oh, no, two regular degrees and a master's. Yeah, he just kept going. He's piling it up. He was really working on that backup plan. I wanted to really hate him. I like Tyler Shuck. I think the dude can play. Coming in with experience lately in the NFL has worked. You know, you had a couple. of these players like Jaden Daniels was one of those guys who, wow, he was in college forever. You know, he was throwing passes to Brandon Iuke back at, you know, ASU. And it turns out a lot of the time to develop was good for him. And I think Tyler Shuck could surprise. So when we're talking about Chris Olme, what if I give you this statistic, though, that since 2014, we have 24 day two quarterback selected. And per our research, we have three of note.

for fantasy football. Jaylen Hurd's obviously the smashing success. And that is Derek Carr and Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah, no, I mean... The odds are not in his favor. There are so many things against... If you just look at like data points of success and if we just want to be completely spreadsheet warriors, which a lot of times I'm happy to be just that, there's no chance. It's like a 90% against Tyler Shuck working. But if Tyler Shuck is just good, if he's actually good, he was injured every single one of those years. There's a reason he never really got the opportunity to play a full season in college until year six. And then he was great. If you're kind of good, this is the worst situation you could be in. Bottom third offensive line, lack of trustworthy, you know, past catchers because I don't put a lobby in the trustworthy category right now. And a running game that you really aren't sure what you're going to get out of it.

because you've got a tough offensive line. I just struggle to see how this season goes different than we expect. So are you not feeling good about Alvin Camara, RB-16? Alvin-Camara has proven that he can kind of just... Catch a million passes? As long as he's on the field, which he will be, he just accumulates fantasy points, albeit slowly with small chunks and half a point per reception or whatever the case may be. So I'm fine with Camara, especially love him in full PPR's fourth-round pick and full PPR leagues. I can deal with that. And look, if you have me bet on a wide receiver, it's going to be Olave. But that doesn't mean that it's impossible for Rashid to have a better fantasy season than Olave for Olave to get knocked out due to injury. Like, it's just, we're at this point now with Olave that you're, like, all the peripherals are not exciting for him. And then you've got the injuries. And so you've just, the shine is off. Is it being discounted enough in the price? I don't know.

I don't know if the wide receiver 26 off the board is enough of a discount to make me feel like, like Mike, you almost took him in one round of our mock. I did. And you waited until the next round to take him. Oh, remember that? Yeah, you were going to think, you thought about taking him, you didn't take him. He came back to you. Like, I think that will be a lave in a lot of drafts. And if he, if he slips. Was that the pick you regretted at the end? It just because of my particular build of that.

DeAndre Swift won a couple picks after. And it was like, oh, man, this team really could have used. Is there any chance Juan Johnson is a sneaky player this year because of the question of my. I am so happy that you brought it up. Is that your third my guy? And I didn't have to. There it is. There it is. Juan Johnson, Bryce Young, Quentin Johnston. Here, that's your stats. Let's have a fun thing to talk about for the New Orleans Saints. So Kellan Moore has taken over for this team. He is an offensive coach. Joanne Johnson, if you don't know who he is, he is the tight end for the New Orleans Saints who just signed a three-year $30 million their deal in the offseason. So he's not a nobody. He's also had some stints where he was a real startable fantasy tight-in. But Kellamore is in. Kalamore's offense has often given us just goodness from the slot position. Now,

It's an embarrassing name of riches when you list it off of like, hey, Devante Smith moves into the slot. He's got five touchdowns in that area, those fourth most in the NFL from the slot. You had Keenan Allen, average the most slot receptions per game. You had C.D. Lamb lead the NFL and slot receiving yards. So obviously, Joanne Johnson's not those guys. But he led the team in slot routes and slot receptions last year. And we have gone over who are the wide receivers here. Like Rashid and Oliva should be. outside wide receivers, there's a chance that Joanne Johnson plays a lot in the slot. Yeah, every bad team gets to football. You know, like you get offensive possessions. And, you know, I just threw it out there as like a deep sleeper. Yeah. You know I love me, some Joanne Johnson. You've always believed. They play Arizona in week one, likely with a rookie under center, then San Francisco, Seattle and Buffalo, Seattle and Buffalo on the road. Yeah, that's a rough, rough start.

But we expect that from New Orleans this year. So here we are at the end of the breakdown show trying to predict the division in order. What do you got for me? Do you want me to go first? I mean, do you guys want to go? I can start it because I know what mine is. I'm going Tampa Bay at the top. I just think they are the best team. Then we're going to go Carolina Panthers second. I'm going to put the Falcons and third. And I will put the Saints. at the bottom. Yeah, I hate what I'm going to say because I want something to be different, but it does to me feel really obvious what happened last year. He's going to crush it up and throw it up in the air and just bathe in that chalk. Tampa Bay will finish first in this division. I think the next best team is the Falcons followed by Carolina and New Orleans. Yes.

Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah. I mean, it's as chalkies it gets, but sometimes there's a reason. Of all the divisions we have talked about yet so far, though, this is the one we can come back and be like, whoops? Definitely. I mean, look, two straight years, two straight years, they didn't settle it until the week 18. Yeah. And they have done this. I know Tampa Bay's, like, since the Brady trade, like they've kind of figured some things out. But before that, like this division would just flip-flop who would win. Atlanta is the surprise division winner for me. i mean that that would be the one because i think they have enough personnel they did enough on the defensive side of the football if michael pinnick if pinnicks is really good they got the the pieces bejohn's an elite player good offensive coordinator um that's the surprise division winner and i think that that could happen but

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