Fantasy Football - NFL Draft Predictions + Jason's Major Meltdown - Podcast for 4/22

He is just, I mean, he's built two different teams with no coaches and no players together to the Super Bowl, just won a Super Bowl, made the brilliant move with Russ to get out, made the brilliant move from Gino to Darnold. And I think that would be, one, I don't think Judarian Price is the number two back in here. And he's definitely not a first round talent in my evaluation. And they will probably trade back, gather more picks, and use some like, mid-second, mid-third that they don't have to take a different player. So I pivoted, and I think the reports are coming out that this team is very interested. They met with them. The Jaguars are in need. Bayshall Tootin. Oh, man. And Crod. And Crod. Oh, no. They're not. They're not yet. You want to be a contender, Jacksonville. You probably need to add a back for sure. Oh, no. I disagree with you. I think John Schneider will take.

to Darien Price at 32. This is the same you said he's a great GM. This is the same GM that drafted Rashad Penny in the first round. It was great. No, no, that was not a great pick. Don't know what you talk about. But Seattle. The injuries, Andy. Seattle is who I think when push comes to shove, they're probably price or tradeback. I think that's going to be their mentality, is take him a 32 or trade back. I already told you they're trading back. which they could just take them in the second round. I'm going, hey, we're going vibes, baby. My vibes. Because crazy stuff happens. And it's like, you know who loves running backs and needs another running back? Because I don't think Seattle takes price of the first. The Detroit Lions, Isaiah Pacheco, he could work. If you have no one else, okay, you have Pacheco as your backup. But you need a little bit more.

Oomph? Yeah, you need a little bit more power now that David Montgomery is gone. And if anyone doesn't mind spending high draft capital on the running back, if they think it's the right guy, when you already have good players, the Lions will do it. Yeah, we're going to get surprised with several picks that are in that category of, I didn't think you needed that, but you took it. The same conversation is the Jeremiah loved to the Giants. You're like, oh, well, do you take the best player that helps your team? I think that one's really interesting. Mike Washington Jr. I talked about it earlier. Tampa Bay. That's where I'm going to go. I'm going to go Tampa Bay. He did visit with Tampa, Top 30 visits, Atlanta, Tampa, Green Bay, and Seattle. So Seattle very much in play. I thought really long and hard about putting Seattle for both Price and Washington and hedging because I think they end up with one.

And I think Jason, you had done that with, but now Price is not to Seattle for you. Correct. Yeah. So I will go Tampa Bay. I think. Coward. I think they'll try to add another running back to that room. Jay? Well, I figured with Mike Washington. With Mike Washington, I'm going to go with the Falcons. I know they've got Brian Robinson there and Bijon, but they did meet with him on a top 30 visit where their draft capital is. It makes sense to me. There's always surprises in every draft where it's like, wait, why? Mike Washington, I don't know, I'm not that bullish on him, so I think he slips past where his current mock drafts are having him go high. Well, perhaps you will have to get more bullish, Jason, when Mike Washington ends up as a Seattle Seahawk. I sure would. They, like, Ken Bone Walker is gone. If you like that archetype of just, you know, the faster.

more athletic type. I was going to say maybe shiftier, but Mike Washington, force-miss tackles was not very, is not Kenneth Walker-like. But with the draft falling, I don't think Seattle goes early, and I think they're patient and wait for the running back, and they can get him either in the late second or even the third. He might go higher than that, Mike. That 433-40-yard dash. I know. We'll see. It moved him up. Yeah, he's... I've seen him in first round mocks very frequently. Gross, really? Yeah, at the end of the first. Yeah, I've seen it. I've seen it. I mean, I don't think that that's likely. I think you get your mock draft license revoked. 99th percentile speed score for Mike Washington. All right, Jonah Coleman and Emmett Johnson will be the last two names at the running back position for our predictions here. Jonah Coleman, I went with the Minnesota Vikings. Love it.

Yeah, that's a great. I think all three of our spots would make us happy, I think. Yeah, Jason, this is where you have Seattle finding the running back. Yeah, I'm going to put Seattle with the back that I think is the best back outside of love. It would be exciting. That's Jonah Coleman. He's also, you know, obviously he played in Washington, so there's, he was in for a local visit. It makes sense. And I'm going with one that's just off the path here. Houston, I know they got David Montgomery. But they do need some more answers. And I think Jonah Coleman fits in perfectly with what Houston's trying to do. Emmett Johnson. Emmett. Mike and I are aligned on this one. We are. We both decided Jeremiah Love was not falling to them at seven. And so Emmett is going to. Well, we're going with Washington. Yeah, the commanders. We're both going with the Washington commanders. Hopefully, what, a day two pick?

Yeah, Washington picks at 71, early third round. I think that's about where I had him slot it in, so we'll see if he ends up there. I did like him at Johnson. Yeah. The production profile is... was monstrous. I'm going with the Minnesota Vikings. No team in the NFL brought in more running backs for top 30 visits than the Vikings. They are going to get a running back in this draft. You had them with the last running back. I've got, I've got them taken. And that's a longer term. That's a great landing spot for your rookie drafts. It will take time because Aaron Jones is there and Jordan Mason is still around. So he'll.

Whoever the rookie is, they'll have to work their way up. Should be a good offense. But year two is not a lot in front of them. That's a player that will gain value over the year. Before we take a break and talk about the strength of the draft, the wide receiver position, Jason, I just need to check in. Are you doing? I am so much better. It was cathartic. It was better than not talking about it. Yeah, I was in a bad, bad, bad place. So I think that talking about it was really helpful. I can think. i can see clearly like red is not over my eyes right now you were not looking like a happy man i was um have you ever been in this place in any other sport like pickleball yeah in moments moments yeah but i can play pickleball i can't play golf so it's frustrating yeah you can auction your stuff off we're ready for it uh let's take a break we'll talk about wide receiver predictions this should be fun all right we're back into our draft predictions starting with ohio states

carnal tate and it appears we are now unanimous we are sorry we're surprised by this we all one has to be the sacrificial someone has to be banished to siberia we all three went with carnell tate to the browns that's a real dangerous pick obviously early in the draft it's very easy as soon as they pass by him well we got that one wrong and then all the chips which is very possible i mean they have such a high pick that they may not go wide receiver there yeah it's It makes sense. Obviously, they do need a wide receiver. If they want one of the top three guys, it seems more and more likely it's not going to get to their second pick. For the Jets and for the Browns, early on in the process, it seemed like, hey, one of these three guys maybe falls to their second pick. And that's not happening anymore. At least that's not how it appears. So if you want your guy, you're going to have to take them there. Jordan Tyson out of Arizona State. I don't remember where he was on your guys list. He's my number one.

This is what you thought was complicated about my situation. I actually have the Giants taking two offensive weapons for Jackson darts. Five and ten. I have them using five and ten both on. That's expensive weapons. So Jordan Tyson is who I have going to the Giants. Mike, you also have Jordan Tyson to the Giants. He had dinner with Mr. Harbaugh. They seem very intrigued by him. Number one, which is really the only reason I'm putting Jordan Tyson to the New York Giants is because it would rule. That's good. That's my analysis. It's a fine reason. It would be awesome. Okay. Neighbors, Tyson. Having the five and ten gives them real, real flexibility. They can, it's so funny, though, because it gives them the flexibility to do this and take two offensive players in the top 10 and just try to revamp it. I have them doing the exact opposite. Like, I've got them taking two defensive players. I'm getting, yeah, I had them taking Caleb Downs at the five, which.

I think you could only do if you've got two top five picks. Anyways, a report came out this morning, according to Tony Pauline, that the Saints will likely wait until day two to select a wide receiver. So, of course, I have them going to the Saints on day one. You said nay to that report. I don't know. It's just rejecting the, you know, the hot farts of the day before the draft. You never know what's going to happen. It just seems like how could anyone report that? How? How could someone report they're going to wait until day two to take a wide receiver? Unless one of two things happen. One, they really are a true insider best friend and they've kind of got the... They've seen the draft board. You know, they've seen the just sneaky snook or, or they got told. They got told like, we're going to wait. You would never do that. That's a leak. Not to mention you can't guarantee waiting. Most people are not going to build a board that's like, hey.

an amazing wide receivers on the board we're not taking them yeah no matter what but in a world where people expect you to leak lies what if you leak the truth next level you're playing about faking checkers did you guys oh man i i uh tweeted it out i've got to go pull it up but it was um uh not the other ESPN the ESPN guy former draft guy McShea. The timeline of pick number two, but I'm literally just day to day. He's like, it's unquestionably Arvel Reese. Oh, without a doubt, it's Bailey. It is disgusting. It was disgusting reading that. It was like like I like McShay. I do too. But what the day by day tweets were was just like unacceptable. Yeah, try to find it because it was like what I mean it was.

Adamant. Okay, here we go. April 15th. Now we're back to David Bailey and it's close to a foregone conclusion in Dawn. NFL drive circles. Book it. April 16th. If I had to put my money on it right now, it would be David Bailey the 17th. I sent out a text. The answer I got back was we canceled the David Bailey meeting. So which is the top 30 meeting. April 18th. I'm going to bed believing it's Arvel Reese at the Jets pick number two. Okay. April 19th, the next day. Last Sunday I said I wasn't decided. Now here's my information. It's Arvel Reese. Oh, number two. Okay. So he changed his mind, but at least he's sure now. Right, right. Two days later. I'm now with the belief that it's David Bailey. And you want to know what's crazy because he's McShay. Come on. Every time that those tweets came out, it moved the lines. Like at sports books were like, oh, minus minus 120 for Bailey. Minus 2.10 for Reese. That's rough, man.

I understand it's difficult and you've got to parse the information and you will have a change of opinion. I hope it's a bit, but just like every day. Well, the change of opinion doesn't have to equal that level of hyperbole conviction in your tweet. Mike, if Jordan Tyson ends up with the Giants. Yep. How hot and bothered is the Jackson Dart conversation going to be this offseason? It will be. Because I feel like if Jason's right. And Tyson ends up with the Saints. You've got Olave Tyson with Tyler Shuck excitement. You should equip these guys. No matter whether it's now with this guy or later, Dart and Shuck need to be equipped with weapons. That's why I don't think they'll pass on both spots for an offensive weapon. I could be wrong. Harbaal, you know, they just traded Dexter Lawrence. They need to solidify. What will be tough for if Tyson goes to the Giants, like that will shake and move.

Jackson Dart's ADP where right now it to me what I've seen is like it's palatable it's not everyone is like this is for sure really yeah I agree where is he at quarterback right now is he in the top 10 pull that up but it's like probably eight what meanwhile right now dart is seven he's in the back of the seventh round behind Jalen Hertz does absolutely want Jaden Daniels over Jackson Dart if this move happened let's pretend Jeremiah Love and Jordan Tyson went to the Giants is he a top five pick because he runs the football. Yeah, Dart would, yeah, he would unfortunately get steamed up as what I was going to say. But if like, but if one of them goes to Shuck, who is Shuck, do you have the ADP still in front of you? Oh, he's got to be like quarterback 18, 20. Kyle is saying on underdog dart is QB 11. Okay. And so I mean, that's, that's wild. That's wild to me of, of where he is right now, you put Tyson on that team. That's even crazier, but Shuck.

could turn into like the true late round guy. Chuck runs more than you think. Well, we have four more wide receivers and then a couple tight ends to get through. Mackay Lemon out of USC. We went unanimous on this one. I still think other, I mean, there are other teams in place. For sure. The dolphins, I think would be a... The Jets. Yep. This, this, this, Mackay... We all went with the Rams, by the way. Yeah, we did. Bing, Bing. The board lit up. It's a tough spot because he's got to get to the Rams past a few wide receiver needy teams. Obviously, we just had Tyson and Carnal Tate going ahead of Mackay Lemon. If that order is different, then he'll never make it to the Rams. Omar Cooper Jr. out of Indiana. Right now, his over under in the first round is 23 and a half. It seems like he's going to be a first round pick. I think there will be a lot of wide receiver.

needy teams that see those first three guys go and start fighting over the next three, which would be Omar Cooper, Denzel Boston, and Concepcion, not necessarily in that order. I went with Carolina. I think Carolina is going to make a splash move at wide receiver. Another. They have to, yeah, they have to give Bryce Young the chance to be it this year, and they can't do it with the existing room. Are they like Bryce Young, we think you can surpass 200 yards a game? That's it. We believe in you. That's confidence. I'm going with the Philadelphia. You're talking about the playoff.

Carolina Panthers? I am. Yeah. I still stand by in my statistic. I'm going with the Eagles of it's the AJ Brown gets traded either. Well, not either. We wait for him to be traded and Cooper is just sitting there waiting to replace him. And I'm going to go with the Steelers. They've still been looking at a lot of wide receivers. It's kind of weird to me that they would be so focused on the position after having D.K. Metcalfe and Michael Pittman. But they are. So I think where they are in the draft, Cooper could be there. I love thinking about the Pittsburgh Steelers with Cooper. Sorry, do you think a first rounder? Is that what you're going? Okay. So a first round pick, Omar Cooper, then their other two wide receivers are both second round picks. And there will be no one to throw them the ball. Will Howard, baby. Yeah, well, Howard. Also, he's.

Let the record show. I think Omar Cooper will go in the first round. I do not think Omar Cooper is a first round talent. Okay. Denzel Boston out of Washington. A lot of top 30 visits. Boston out of Washington. Yeah. This is Denzel Washington. You realize that? Do you realize that? Is Denzel Washington? He's from Washington. Yeah. I find me. My man. My man. Denzel. All right. Denzel Boston, Washington. Well, we figured that out. The 49ers is going to be my pet. The 49ers with Denzel Boston. That would be exciting. He did visit with them. We're all playing roulette here with these three names where we've got the same teams in contention, just different receivers. Yeah, I got the Jets with their second pick taking Denzel Boston. No, it wouldn't. And I'm going Miami. Yep, they're going to get one for sure, I think.

They need all of them. It was funny. I did my, I did my like a pick-by-pick official mock draft that I thought. And obviously the Dolphins desperately need a wide receiver, desperately. And the way that the draft fell according to my mock was like there was no one there for them where they were picking. Could happen. All right, Denzel Boston. I went to the 49ers, Jason with the Jets, Mike with the Dolphins, and then Casey Concepcion. Mike and I went with the 49ers. Obviously they need a wide receiver. They brought in Mike Evans, but they. They have to get some youth in there. Ricky Pearsall has not shown that he's the future. It's not, yeah, it's, he hasn't filmed out. He hasn't, he hasn't busted, but at the same time, Joan Jennings was a better wide receiver for this team. Right. And that says something. All right. I actually went with the Philadelphia Eagles who Mike, I think gave Omar Cooper to. Yeah, I think he is, they're going to add somebody for sure. The weird thing about the dolphins, because I realized they did not project a team.

The dolphins with one of these names, they're at 11. So, you know, they could grab one of the big names potentially. They're at 30. The over-under on a lot of these other names is going to be underneath that. They don't need to trade up if they want to use that second pick, I think, to get the names we talked about today or take them, you know, maybe it's Mackay Liman or something at 11. Let's turn the page now. Kenyon, Sadiq, Eli Stowers. Mm-hmm. Let's go. Kenyon Sadeek. Looks like you two were on the same page. We were and I was surprised because we did these completely independently. I did mine via a mock just pick. He did his out on the golf course. You were like very studious. I was like vibes. Yeah, you were vibes. And then I came back to the dog and I was like, oh, son of a gun. We both went with the Panthers, which would be a bit of a fall. The Panthers in the first round, where are they picking there? That's not bad. I mean, that's about where I think he's going. Me too.

I guess, wait, are you talking? Is it 19? Oh, that would be a bit of a fall. I guess I was thinking 1415. So, yeah, I think they're definitely in contention. Another weapon for Bryce Young fits the mold for equipping him. I went with the Minnesota Vikings. I think Minnesota is in play. He visited with them. We'll see what happens. They're the pick before Carolina. Yeah, that'll be, we'll have our breath held at the 18th pick. Eli Stowers. out of vanderbilt who we love i went with the philadelphia eagles i went with the philadelphia eagles for stowers they're they're going to keep trying to add weapons so that's the direction i i'm going to go on the prediction and see if they can end up with stowers maybe in the second round maybe move up in the second round yeah and get him in the 40s maybe you shouldn't have to move up according to where he is like his his mock draft database i think he's like in the 60s uh

you know, he's been lower a couple months ago to start this process. He was like, pick 100 was his assumption. And then we started talking about him. Yeah, exactly. Then we got hot and bothered for him. Oh, I love your pick. I told you that when you put it in there. They can go wide receiver, tight end, reset the market. They've always had a tight end. Zach Ertz into Dallas Goddard. They need a wide receiver with, you know, the presumed departure of A.J. Brown and Dallas Goddard is not long for the team. So Stowers would be perfect there. I had the Broncos in here.

Because the Broncos want Stowers. I think that is for sure. But they pick late in the second. I have Stowers getting picked very high in the second way above the expectations. I have the Titans taking them right off the bat in the second round. And I'm going with the Baltimore Ravens. Yeah. Yeah, they could do it. Always looking for weapons. Lost Isaiah likely. chose Mark Andrews. It's not impossible for them to take Sadiq at 14 as well. Oh, yeah. I agree with them as a definite contender for a top tight in. Top tight in. What do we got? We got some statistics in here from every year somehow. And I don't know, I don't know the.

rules and what he does, but he has, Kyle makes this doc that tracks our picks and basically gives knockout power because obviously if, you know, for instance, if Jeremiah Love goes four, that hurts Andy who has him going five and then we knock you out. The knock out power. So like if certain people's picks are right, yeah, I mean, you guys had quite a few that matched. I mean, me and Mike had a couple. I don't know if me and you had any that matched Jason. which scares me because you've been winning this every year. Mendoza. Yeah, that's fair. I think you'll get that one right. But yeah, we'll see. It's fun. It's exciting. We wanted to get the show out early for you just so that you had an opportunity to listen to it. Because these will all sound real dumb real soon. Yeah, we got to get this out there before it expires. But one final reminder for you on the Ultimate Draft Week giveaway, a listener league spot, two signed jerseys. Just go to Ultimate DraftKit.com.

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