Fantasy Football - Week 12 Matchups + Wheel of Shame, Ultimate Backfire - Podcast for 11/21

If Dallas wins that ball game, you know, I don't know. Do they trade Michael Parsons? I have no idea. Philly ran it 38 times in that game. Cowboys rushing defense has gotten better, but they're not a good defense. There's no one that's going to make that argument right now. Luckily, they're facing not a good offense in the moment. So I do think this game could be close. It's in Dallas. It's crucial for Dallas. I mean, talk about a difference in how you feel like your playoff potential would be. Fantasy-wise, you know, Dak, it's a tough matchup. It is a tough matchup. I think you can play him, but you don't necessarily need to. I'd rather play Jacoby-Berset. It's the only bad game of the year was Philly. I am personally, I have Dak and Purdy on my lineup. What are you doing? I'm playing Purdy, even with the stack. I didn't know that. Yeah. So, yeah, it limits your downside a little bit in this one. If you play that stack against Philly and the game goes Philly's way, you could really get hammered by two bad performances. Yes.

Pickens has been awesome. C.D., you're playing both those guys. You're playing Javante, I think, and you're just mitigating or limiting your hopes a little bit of a ceiling game. It hasn't been good for one player in recent weeks, who really was on fire for the first seven weeks of the season. The return of C.D. Lamb has hurt Mr. Oh, Ferg Daddy? Fergillicious. Okay. You know, he had a goose in the first game. CD came back. You know, five for 50, that's fine. Then it was four for 16, but he got in the end zone. My confidence in Ferg Daddy has gone down for sure. Yeah, I mean, when he's the second target, I mean, we talk about this all the time in the off season. Like you, to be successful as a tight end in fantasy on a consistency basis, you have to be the first or second target. Now he's the third target. You're reaching for buttons. Is this? Breaking news.

this is interesting mostly for mike the fantasy hitman no for everybody jackson dart's not playing jackson dart has been ruled out sunday against the lines he did not clear protocol i only say that because mike has burrow i guess burrow might be his starter yeah i mean wait no they're on by yeah they're on by so he he won't have a starter oh he'll have to go sign somebody burrow plays the patriots yeah oh wait i am yes okay You said that. I was like, I'm pulling up. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah. I think you were thinking of Herbert, maybe. Yeah, I don't know about that. But yes, he is playing. So Mike will have to play Burrow if Burrow is active. But no Jackson Dart, which is a disappointment. That game is going to be really bad for the lions. Yeah. It already was, but you were hoping Jackson's dark could keep up. And, you know, that, that hurts like, for instance, you're James and Williams. Chase is technically on by.

That's what I was thinking of. I was thinking of the fact that Chase himself is on a forced buy by the NFL for spitting in somebody's face. Yes. So he will not have a Chase Burrow stack. That's what I was thinking. Yeah. He will have just the borough part. But yeah, I'm going to go ahead and pivot from Jackson Dart as my start of the week to Jared Goff, who is my backup start of the week. Okay. So in the same game. Which ironically, Jackson Dart not being there hurts Jared Goff as well. It probably does. Yeah. But James Winston, we know James can have a little fun out there. Circling back, what were we talking about before? We were talking about Dak and the Cowboys in Philadelphia. I think the Falcon was trying to get me to make a furgatory joke, like putting Jake Ferguson in, like, tied in furgatory. But I decided I wasn't going to do it. I wanted to hate it a lot more than the second time I feel like that was okay. Second time I delivered it? Yes. Yeah, putting them in tight in furgatory. Yeah, that's much better.

You messing around with Goddard? Yeah, I mean, when you play against the Cowboys, you want pieces. I think he is an okay play. AJ Brown, Devante Smith. I'm playing both of them in your lineup. I tried really hard to get AJ Brown again this week because I still think it's going to be really good for him the rest of the season. Yeah, there's a there's a small piece of me that's worried he's losing a step. He's certainly given up on steps. We've seen it. three times this year where there's been a go route that he has just slowed up on. Just like, I'm not going to get past the ball. So why give full effort? And then the ball sails five yards over his head. The Falcons are three and seven. They take on the two and eight, New Orleans Saints. So what? We got a two and eight, two and eight matchup. We got a three and seven, two and eight match up. That's great. Because then those games can be competitive. And they're like,

I'm just saying I want all the bad teams to play the bad teams and the good teams to play the good teams. Yeah, I mean the overrunner in this one is 40. So we got 40 in this one. We had 36 in the other crap game. That's the only thing that sucks because you got no Drake London. You got Kirk Cousins taking over. The vibes that Atlanta are just so good. The vibes are going great. I mean, they beat the Buffalo Bills. Kyle asked us to spend 20 seconds on this game. Yeah, because he's a Falcons fan and they've lost five straight. Yeah. And they've lost.

I mean, in disgusting fashion. Kyle, are you, is he on the microphone? Yes, I'm here. You aren't. I'll try to talk. Kyle, just summarize the, you're in Atlanta, your boots on the ground. Give us just an overarching vibe check there in Atlanta and what you expect moving forward. We think every day about us taking pits over Chase. Put it that way. That's what we think about every single way. Oh, man. That was a bad pick. Wait, are you saying you regret that? You think about that in what way? Those are bad pits. It's just sad. It's the saddest thing in the world. Because you could have Jamar Chase. Or like the 20 other players after him that are all great. Yeah. They were drafted. All of them. What about this week, Kyle? Is Kyle Pitts going to deliver? Nine targets last time? Sure. I mean, it could work. Yeah. The last time that London was out and Kirk was the starter.

nine targets. He was okay. I think Kyle Pitts is, like I would rather play Kyle Pitts than most of these tight ends we've talked about, which, you know, I don't want that to be archived. Yeah. But it's the truth. I would, I would rather play him than Mark Andrews that tier. And you can throw Darnel Mooney. I'd probably play him over Parker, Washington and Dorch. Yeah. I mean, uh, I, you know, the defense for the Saints, um, I expect them to. play decent ball. They're at home. That's a tough environment. There's some good vibes there. The switch over to Tyler Shuck, who played well, I think in both of his starts so far, but had the victory in his last start. And I'll bet New Orleans the city is excited. They're going to be up for this game. So I worry a lot about the Falcons offense here with Kirk and no London. I don't have the nasty button over here if somebody wants to hit it for me.

I got you. But I think there's a world where we see some Devon Neal in this one. Alvin Camara is still limited. And so I'd be curious to see what Devon Neal can do if he gets opportunities in this game. Alave, you keep playing, but you don't watch the games. Yeah, I mean, honestly, we had the one game without Kalil Shakir or two games, but one game with Shuck, no Shakir. where you're not getting blown out by the Rams against Carolina. And he was five for 104 in a touchdown. Honestly, it's his biggest game in a long time. So I'm actually excited for a lobby. I'm still reading about this Kyler contract, little bits and pieces here. Well, because like most of the players paid as much as Kyler have no trade clauses and he doesn't. But he does have the unbelievably cool homework clause, right? Oh, yeah. Where it requires.

Four hours of independent study. I mean, the fact that that's in a contract. And it's wild because it was, it was, um, that's not in a contract because of Kyler. That's in a contract because of Bidwell. Because he's a joke of an owner. Well, I mean, this was, this was, yeah, Kaiman, Kyman Kingsbury. So like, their current GM and their current head coach have no allegiance to this contract into Kyler, whether it's a trade, whether somebody's willing to take on the insane money, um, which I think is. unlikely, but Cardinals seem ready to move on. Are you happy about that? Because a lot of the times when you move on from a player, you might spend 10, 12 years in purgatoria quarterback. Yeah, I'm fine with that because I don't think with Kyler we've been good enough to truly compete. So we end up in...

purgatory either way. So let's move on. Let's move on from him. But I do, I very much want them to trade him for something good. And I think that there are teams out there that need a quarterback and there's not a ton of them growing on trees. If we trade them, I don't think we get a lot personally. I'd be shocked. We traded Josh Rosen. Remember that? Did we get something for Rosen? Yeah, we did. We got a... A 2019 second round pick and a fifth round pick. That's a great deal. A two and a fine. Miami, thank you. Yeah, maybe Miami comes out of us. Got precedent. Tampa Bay, six and four, Los Angeles, the Rams, eight and two. Vegas line here. Los Angeles, minus six and a half. Over under almost 50 points. Okay, here's a game. This should be fun if Baker's good to go and healthy enough. He was quarterback eight, quarterback seven last two weeks.

If he's game for this and he's a gamer, I'm super excited. You know, it seemed like they were winning every close game to start the year, right? Like Baker had the last second drives and all of them. Now they're losing all of them. And I think Baker will be fine. We don't expect Bucky Irving to play. So Sean Tucker, an interesting chase after last week. He had 12 touches. He had a 43-yard touchdown. He looked, I guess, pent-up would be the word. Yeah. Like somebody ready to play football. He was very fast. His breakaway run down the sideline was. It was very impressive. His speed pulled away from defenders who took bad angles and they could not catch him. So I would certainly be starting Sean Tucker over Rashad White. I believe that it was hot hand in the game, but I think that they will continue to hot hand after that and say, hey, we're going to give you more opportunities. Now White's hands have been cold for years when it comes to running between the tackles. They're like, don't touch me. No. Don't touch me. It's freezing. Freezing cold.

This isn't a good matchup for it, though. The Rams defense has been otherworldly. Their rush defense is very difficult. Both of these teams are usually good rush defenses. Although so far this year, Tampa Bay has given up a lot of fantasy points to running backs. Yeah, it doesn't give me any fear for Kyran, of course. Puka, Devante, play them. I think you play Stafford and you hope for the game to get up above that 50 point mark and be a shootout. When it comes... Play a Bucca, of course. When it comes to Sean Tucker, like, would you play Bam Knight or Sean Tucker? Tucker. Would you play Sean Tucker or Alvin Camara if he's active? Tucker. I would go Camara there. I don't... I... Emmanuel Wilson. To be honest with you, I am shocked that anybody on this planet wants to play Alvin Camara. Why? I don't know.

just because I feel like when he's bad, he's invisible. I agree. He's had a lot of poor production this season. You're just feeling better with the by week and getting another week for rest. A buy week with rest. Shuck is better than Rattler. Last week, he had 25 opportunities. Yeah, I get it. I guess that makes sense. It was a little bit better for him after basically not touching it a lot before Rattler left. So. Yeah. Anybody else in this game you want to discuss Mr. Moore? What do you think of Tess Johnson? I think it's just really... It's hard to play a guy off of three targets, one catch for six yards. It was very disappointed last week, especially in a game where you score 32 points. It just feels back and forth. But you're going to need to throw the ball against the Rams because you're not going to run it well against them and the Rams are going to score. Is there a chance Godwin plays, though? They said full participant for Godwin on Thursday.

Um, there is, there is a chance. I saw that he's hopeful, but I'd make other plans than Tess personally, especially against this is not fair to the, like I feel bad for the Buccaneers who had to go to Buffalo and then in Buffalo, New York, and then the next week fly all the way to Los Angeles to play back to back brutal matchups. This is tough sledding. Yeah, this will be a tough one too. I mean, they're, they're six and a half point underdollars. I get it. I think the travel and the brutal way that they lost, they gave it everything they got. I mean, last week they, they went all out. And I feel like I know that there's been a lot reported of like teams after they play the Lions just when they just get brutalized the next week. They have a down week. This feels tough to me for the Buccaneers to go to the Rams and like the Rams a lot. I do. We'll take a break. We'll talk Monday night football. Get into the face off. Carolina.

Still surviving 6 and 5 here. Taking on the 49ers in San Francisco. 49ers 7 point home favorites over under is 49 and a half. Carolina could match records with San Francisco with a win in this one. 49ers are the last NFC team in the playoffs right now. Panthers knocking on the door behind them along with Detroit. Both teams have been good in close games this year. One score games, San Francisco 4 and 1. Thank you, Cardinals. Carolina 5 and 1, Bryce Young, NFC, offensive player of the week with 448 passing yards and three touchdowns against Kyle's Falcons. Brock Purdy's your start of the week, and he looked great last week. He has got the mind meld with George Kittle. And I love that. He has caught his last 23 targets in a row, George Kittle.

For real? For real. That dude's awesome. That dude, George Kittle is awesome. He's awesome in every single way you can be awesome. There's no way he's not awesome. I'll bet you even the hair. I'll bet you he's good at cards. I'll bet you he's great. Juggling? He could juggle. He could easily juggle. He's caught 23 passes in a row. You think he can't just simply juggle? You think you can drive a stick shift? He grew up on a stick shift. Yeah. He was on like some kind of, he had the hard top. Is he punctual? Does he show up to things on time? No, he's way too cool to show up on time. Because showing up on time is not cool. Exactly. Five minutes late. Tattoo's awesome. Yeah. I think he could, uh, he can probably swim, right? Yeah, I think he could swim. I think that's like not a. That's not a super high bar. He can dunk. He could dunk? He could definitely dunk. On a 12 foot hoop? For sure. Another fun staff from this game, Chuba Hubbard.

He has allowed zero pressures on 26 pass blocks this year. That is the most of any running back. So he has been a really, really good, you know, a benefit to Bryce Young. Yeah. Where Rico has allowed 12 pressures on about the same amount of pass blocks. But Rico has been the much, much better, more productive, more explosive, more dynamic runner. After they lost to Buffalo, they made the transition. They came out and set it. They said, you know, we wanted to have Chuba, give him the respect. He's a big part of this team, but RICO's been better and we need to make that transition. Since that time, Chuba's on 22%, 21% and 19% each week lower than the previous on snaps, percentage of snaps. Like there's just, this is Rico's backfield. Chuba is a good pass blocker. I don't think it matters. And the San Francisco 49ers defense has not been very good. They're so depleted. They're so injured.

And so I think this is going to be an exciting game. I think it seems like what Carolina has done with Rico Dowdle in winning games and putting up enough points. They're going to score. They're still going to lose by seven to the Niners, which means the Niners are going to put up 30 points. Tetaroa McMillan, my start of the week, T-Mack, Tracy McGrady. By the way, do you think you think Kituk could do like a wheelie? He could do a wheelie all the way down the street. all the way down and i'm talking bicycle none of this like i mean on a motorcycle you do it for miles you think he has pegs on his bike on the back of his bike to give his friends rides he's got pegs on the bike all right and then he'll take someone on his shoulders he'd do both yeah well if he's got two friends he's not going to leave one behind he's way too cool for that's too cool uh joan jennings uh ricky piercel i know you guys have had just this unadulterated uh confidence in ricky pierceal is it does it persist into this moment here on the show uh

It does persist. I do think that Ricky Pearsall is their best player. I think he's going to be their best wide receiver. Certainly not their best player with Christian McCaffrey and George Kittle. Yeah, I mean, the way that Shanahan has talked about him, watching the routes last week, he was a little bit of a decoy, but he was open a lot. And so I'm okay playing Pearsall. You play him over Joan Jennings? I still would play him over Joan Jennings. I think that if... I'm sure you guys are going to end up right. If Jennings leads the team in receptions at the wide receiver position, I think you're disappointed. If Pierceall does, I think you get a good fantasy output. That's the difference. Right. Jennings could be five for 41 or something like that. Okay. Well, I'm kind of looking forward to seeing Carolina at 6 and 5 on Monday Night Football. I didn't think I'd be saying that. No, it's fun. And they're in the race for their division. Yeah. All right. I guess no meteor.

Fantasy Face Off, presented by prize picks. Well, Mike's not here, so, you know, he probably lost. But I checked. I checked. He didn't lose. But I also didn't lose. No, I think you guys were three of four and I was two of four, I believe. So I get to spin it. And I can't wait because we. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're back. Will of shame. Can't wait to find out how much I have to zoom my browser window. All right, spin the wheel. You should be able to see just five. Oh, okay. Let's see here. Jay Gris, the count. Oh, gosh. What does it say? What does it say? Says, oink, oink, oink, ohig. This was something that Andy got for me. Yeah, this is not. This is what makes me so happy about this. It is the ultimate backfire. It is the ultimate backfire because I got this for you. You got this for me trying to fast shame me.

and then uh it didn't come in time and so i you guys pivoted last week and so i'm just putting it right back oh you got your own punishment this is crushing yeah oh you look so stupid you look like when you were in that batman suit hey can you even hear me yeah we can hear you enough it's it plays you look you you really look fat yeah yeah that makes sense um Go ahead, Jack. All right, I'll start us off. Also, just to let the Footland know what we're doing here with Price Picks. This is a razor blade. I see it cutting into those eyes. Oh, it's delightful. So what we're doing this week with Mike Gone, we are making the Deucers in Deucers Alley participate with us. Each one of our beautiful deusers has picked a position, and Jeremy will read them off for us. We'll start at the quarterback position.

Jeremy, which deucer picked the quarterback? That was Matt. All right. Give us the Falcons line for quarterback. Matt was thinking to him to himself. Should Shoulder Sanders throw an interception this week? And he said he should do her that. So he is taking the more of the 0.5 interception projection on should do our Sanders. 0.5? Is this a, is this a green goblin? This is our green goblin. Okay. I was like, because so mine, I am also doing an interception projection here. I've got Trevor Lawrence is also at 0.5 interceptions. And look, as a Cardinals fan, I'm just going to hope that'll be a fun moment for me. I get to double up and I get to go woohoo. That's awesome. But he was not a green goblin. I feel like should should do her be like two and a half. What's what's the line there? All right. Andrew. Can you hear me? Yeah.

Jared Goff. Your start of the week. This is my Green Goblin. More than 209.5 passing yard. More than 209. Yeah, that feels like a really nice projection to go more. All right, okay. Is something funny? Something funny over there? Falcon is laughing at... What's so funny? I think it's your face. Is it my fat face? It's your fat face. It looks... You really do look genuinely fat. Yeah. And it looks like you. Okay. Okay. So, all right. I'll kick us off with the running back. This is my green goblin. I am taking David Montgomery. Gross. Gross. I didn't like seeing that. All right. I found the mouth hole. I am going David Montgomery. They talk about wanting to get him more involved. Same game. My green goblin. More than half a reception. Just get.

Get one pass. Get one pass, David. That's all you need. Deucers, what you got. All right. Josh had our running back pick. And you'll notice that we thought it'd be fun this week. We have a lot of fun on the prize picks platform. But we put together a hater lineup. So these are all fades. Oh, all right. Josh's running back pick is Chase Brown less than 64 and a half yards, rushing yards. Okay. Can I add this mask to the hater list? That's, yeah. So that's going to be against the New England Patriots. Are we on running back? We are on running back. I'm going with Ken Bone Walker. Oh, my start of the week. More than 7.5 receiving yards. Oh, okay. He can do that in one. Yep. Or he could not do that in five. I mean, who knows? Let's go quicker. All right. Wide receiver. I have a fun one here this week. I haven't done this too many times. Not on the show. I play it off the show. But I'm going Stefan Diggs in that New England Cincinnati game.

with their terrible defense and now maybe Joe Burrow active, I'm going with his fantasy score. They have a projection of 12 fantasy points. And if you haven't done it on prize picks, they're full PPR. So this is full PPR, 12 fantasy points for Stefan Diggs. Cool. Touchdown pretty much seals it. I think he can do it without one. I'm taking more. Alrighty. And then Kyle had our wide receiver pick. He's going Trey Tucker against the Brown's defense less than 36 and a half receiving yards. This is the worst thing I've ever worn. I can see the lines it's making on your nose. It hurts in an unimaginable quantity of pain. I love that you're supposed to go to me. More than 68.5 receiving yards. Okay, I like that with Chase out. Okay, let's take our time on this last one, fellas. At tight end, we've got a lot riding on this New England Cincinnati game. I think it's really fun, especially, man, if Burrow plays.

There should be a ton of points scored. Cincinnati's defense is the worst ever against tight end. So I'm taking Hunter Henry at tight end more than three and a half more, more than three and a half receptions. See, the reason why I like more than three and a half receptions for Hunter Henry against the Bengals is because they are historically bad against the tight end position. Producers, before you give me your line, what do you think of my Hunter Henry? uh, projection. I think it's a great pick. Thanks. Okay. All right. All right. These eyes are closed. He's past, he's passing on. I had our tight end pick and I'm going to keep Fergalicious in per, uh, fergatory with less than 36 and a half receiving yards. Okay. Cool. I think the AJ Barner week was a complete, uh, one off and I'm taking AJ Barner fewer than 26.5 receiving yards.

A.J. Barner, you were, okay, because you looked into that and you realized that you did not love A.J. Barner going forward. I remember you talking about that. Is that true? You did a deep dive on A.J. Barner. Oh, man. The look. You can close this out, Jay. All right, that was Fantasy Face Off presented by PrizePix. Join millions of users and sign up for America's number one Fantasy Sports app. Use the code footballers to get $50 in lineups when you play $5. Play with us. It is a ton of fun over there, prize picks. Goodbye, everybody. Goodbye. I just want to stress how tight this mask is. Humpty tufties. And how they didn't really use a sander on the edges. Goodbye.

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