Fantasy Football - Week 13 Studs & Duds + Lamar / Jefferson Panic Time! - Podcast for 12/1

to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. I was going to go with Christmas and I bailed out. A nice mate sounds. Well, see, now it's actually Christmas time, guys. Yes. December 1st. Now it is actually Christmas. Oh, what's you rock in here? It's got a little elf. Smiling's my favorite. Oh, yeah, Mike. Smiling is your favorite. That's why it's so funny. Monday, December 1st, the fantasy footballers. Welcome into the show. Now it's appropriate to put your tree up and hang your lights and play your Christmas music. It was appropriate. This was a later Thanksgiving, right? Yeah. Then it has been other years. It was? I think so. Yeah, I thought it was. There's rules. There are rules, but some years there's more time between where the, the, the,

Thursday lands within the month. The fourth Thursday of November. Yeah. So sometimes it's later. Oh, wait. It's always the last Thursday of the month, Josh? It's the fourth. I thought it was the fourth. It's not the last. It's the fourth. Yeah. I guess there is a world where you could have a fifth Thursday. That's right. A fifth Thursday. That's right. You came in here hot like a Thanksgiving authority. Also, you. You don't know Jack. You don't know Jack. So weird. But I like this. Quick turnover to December. Yeah, we are in it. anything going on in the fantasy playoff world for anybody oh yeah oh yeah dude oh yeah i i don't even know if i have the strength to talk about it i i can give the yeah the rundown and mike you can jump in yeah jason has uh you know he sold the farm yeah jason has gone he's got jonathan taylor he

paid up for Josh Jacobs at the trade deadline, our League of Record, where Al Borland and I fought last year in the title game, not quite doing that this year, are we, Al? Jason, Mike, in the playoffs, Papa Josh in the playoffs, or should be. But Jason's like, he's just on a rough patch. He's gone through a little rough spell where week after week he's just kind of, you know, you traded for a dunzae at the deadline. Yeah, when I was hot for a while. I think I've got some firepower with with Jacobs and Jonathan Taylor and the CD-LAM DAC stack where I can win this thing. And so I was looking at maybe I could get the buy. Oh yeah, that was the old goal. So, so yeah, I sold. I sold the farm for next year. Next year I have no picks. I mean, half the league is kind of like that. You have a first round pick. Yeah, because you can't trade our first. Because we don't trade those. And then you don't have a pick till I think the seventh.

Something like that. It's like, I'm bare. I'm bare. Yeah, you're covered. And it's okay if you win the championship. If you go down there and you win the championship. Then I went on a rough patch. And now I'm like, there's a chance I don't make the playoffs. There's a slim chance that you miss. And then it looked yesterday like there was a big chance because I was going to go 0 and 2. And somehow a magic miracle happened. in the afternoon games he had my opponent was four players it was the little Shakir Steelers defense and Trey Tucker and they did nothing yeah they did nothing my Chargers defense did well so now it all comes down to tonight it's basically 10 points no more than 10 Hunter Henry 10 points or fewer oh it's 10 I thought it's 11 no 11 I lose okay so

No, no. Hunter Henry. You got, you got corrected. Now it's 11. It's 11.1. You got a bonus while you were sleeping better. So you're on Hunter Henry watch for tonight. And this is that time of year where every one of us out there. That 20 yard touchdown is going to hurt. Oh, I don't think he has the courage to watch. I'm supposed to watch these games. I don't know if I can do it. I need to like every play put a piece of tape over wherever Hunter Henry is. Just not. Would you watch it in a slight blur overall so you don't know who scores? Just put a gauze and blur. I already struggle with Hooper and. Oh, Henry Hooper and Henry. Who catches it? You're like, it's one of them. Tonight, you imagine if Hooper scores a touchdown? Oh, your heart will do. Oh, man. So that's Jason's situation, but I know everyone out there, it's on the line right now. Yeah, it is. For Fantasy Plast. So we're going to do our best to get you through.

The rest of week 13 into week 14 before your fantasy playoffs. We do want to announce here. I don't know if you can hit a little announce button for me, Al. But we have the winner of our James Cook signed jersey. We just picked that this morning. Thank you for everybody that entered. Oh, boy. It's Blake Hester. See, that's what happens when you ask for the drops from the... producer he finds another one blake hasster congratulations and by the way tomorrow thank you to everybody who listened to the megalodon show it was great to get all the hashtag triple gobble yeah we got we got in the trender we did it's not easy these days got into they they've made it more difficult the twitter trending somewhere in the top 10 yeah and

My favorite ones, though, were not just the people that got through it quickly. It was the ones that straggled in yesterday. They're like, I don't know if this is too late, but I finally finished the Meglodon, and here you go. And yes, it was not too late. We'll pick those winners sometime today and announced them on tomorrow's show. Quick reminder, if you need help for week 14 coming up, the weekly rankings, the start sit tool, all the articles, all of our premium in-season tools, the ultimate dashboard and such can be found on the fantasy footballers.com. You guys sent in your reactions as you always do on this fine Monday morning. Let's react to the weekend in a sophisticated way. Let's start with the good Rashi twice. You had Yay J. Brown. Also AJ Crown. Mm-hmm. We had Dantavian John Wicks. Oh, man. And I finally got my seedy Lamborghini. Yep.

Adonine Missile? Someone played Mitchell? Maybe. If you did, that would have been a great day. Also would have been nice to play thrice young. Or Brock Wowsers. That catch, dude. Kamani. Kamani, Vidal. I was doing the Khamani. Khamani. Vital. Vital. Nico Ballin out there? A Jackson with Jigua? Oh, no. J. Sons on the Noddy list with scammed Arnold. And Lamar Laxon. Lamar Jack Squat. Ricky Smearsall. Oh, Ronday Badsden. Oh, no. Mm-hmm. Zay flounders. Bustin Jefferson? Oh. Oh. I thought this was funny. Ammon, nah, sit down. Yeah, so sad. He's injured. I know. Sequin Parfley. Kenneth Stainwell. Oh. And then this one I'll hit.

Close to home, it's the fall of Rome. I don't care. He's on my bench. You have, I told Jason this, I could not have done what you did, which was, even though it was wrong, I guess, in hindsight. He sat Roma Dunes at his like trade deadline acquisition down. Not only did he sit him on his bench, but he set him on his bench when you could have watched him on like an island game. I didn't want to watch him. Yeah, but that's normally a motivation. Because you were deciding between Pittman and him? O'Donze. O'Donze Olave and Pittman. Which I just feel like some of us might have played O'Donzee under the promise of watching him before. I think most would have over Olave. With the injury, people were concerned and you made the right call there. And it literally might save your season. Yeah, if I had played Rome over Olave, I would not be on this show today.

All right. Well, thank you for your Monday punday submissions over on X at the FF Ballers on Instagram at Fantasy Footballers. Let's talk some news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by Progressive Insurance. Okay, in the latest breaking news, in the last eight games played, how many times has Roma Dunesay scored seven fantasy points? It's not going to be good. It's twice. Twice in the last two months. That's our first breaking news. Yeah. Well, we didn't even have a chance on this show, I believe, to talk about Frank Ragnell, the center for the lines returning to the team before he failed his physical and is now not eligible to return it. That's wild. Like you feel bad for the man. That's like, that sucks. That's a big decision. Yeah, you're like, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm coming back.

and then a grade three. Yeah, which is like, I don't even know if you have a hamstring. How do you not know that hurts? That's what's crazy. It's like, it's like, how do you go? You know what guys? I'm coming out of retirement. Did he, did he tear his hamstring coming out of retirement? Like, he's like, he got up so quick to celebrate his announcement. Or he's like, or maybe they won't notice. and I'll still get some money. Oh, man. But it was like this fanfare. The Lions account was funny about it. Sweet and out like, welcome back. Oh, he Franks back. All pro. We got our center back guys. And then 24 hours later, he has failed his physical and is no longer eligible. Yeah, it's crazy. We do have a Monday night update. Jackson Dart cleared concussion protocol is starting tonight. Good. This will be a fun game. We had the Ammon Ross St. Brown injury. This one was not one of the.

nice and convenient ones for fantasy players where he does a bunch of production and then gets hurt. This was Thanksgiving. It was a low ankle sprain. He didn't return. He's not expected to be placed on IR. By the way, I believe Jameson Williams had a 37% target share, first double-digit target game of the year and was Monster 144-1. Huge game. The Lions play Dallas on Thursday. I would not expect Dom-on-Rod to play in that one. But you never know. You never know. He's a tough son of a gun. He's a little... like Baker Mayfield, where if he can, he will. But I don't know if, you know, I tweeted this about Josh Jacobs two weeks ago when he missed the game. And it got a lot of backlash. And I just said, you want this because you want Jacobs when it matters. You want him in the playoffs. You want him to take the week off versus getting re-injured. Now, I didn't know he needed two weeks off before getting re-injured. But you don't necessarily want Amman Rob back out on the field. And obviously, if you're...

do or die for the playoffs you're begging for him to be there but if you're in the playoffs you just want him the healthiest possible when you get there so rushing it for thursday and then missing two more weeks that costs you your season potentially is all i'm saying well the the issue now it's funny we we constantly when jacobs had his injury a week's like that was i think that was the correct analysis but we're at the point now where it's like okay if arm and raw misses three weeks He is missing the playoffs. Yeah, that would be devastating. We're there. We got one week left. Miss this one. Come back for the players. By the way, I believe Papa Josh traded the injured Drake London to acquire Amman Ra for the playoffs. Thoughts on that transaction? Why, you got to do that, man. I'm sorry. Oh, you did that. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Justin Herbert, fracturing his left hand. It requires surgery. The team is unsure if he'll miss time. But.

Herbert says he plans to play through the injury. This is like the... Should ask Aaron Rogers how that goes. It's just wild, though, because everybody, every quarterback's hurting themselves severely in the non-throwing arm. Like Baker's shoulder in Rogers' hand and Herbert's hand. And that's the way to do it. Yeah. Don't do the right hand. I mean, it's much better. So surgery today. Oh, yeah, Jaden Daniels. He does not play until Monday night football next week. Well, we'll wait and see. I don't know if you're playing him against the Eagles. Is it time? Oh, for Trey Lance. Oh, my gosh. Never wrong. Just early. On Monday night football? Why not? Against the Eagles. That'll get annihilated. By the way, if you were going to play Herbert, just don't do it this week anyways. It's the Eagles. Find another plan. Don't wait through Monday night. Have a stress-free week. Go play Jacoby Rosset. It will always work out for 25 plus, even when he looks horrible. And the partners will always lose. Oh, that's the best part. He is good for 300.

yards and two touchdowns on a loss every week. Hampton, though. Your big triumphant return. On Monday night football against Philly. Yeah. Without, maybe without Herbert, that would be a bummer. Yeah. Marvin Harrison Jr. left early with a heel injury. I didn't know that. Yeah, he was like, it was weird. He was like, it was weird. He was like, it was weird. He was going to get some more Wilson? He, um, yeah. Michael Wilson came back to Earth. Yeah. Yeah. According to Twitter, it was our fault. Aaron Jones left early with a shoulder injury. Concern his reaggravation of the AC joint sprain from about a month ago. That would be bad. I mean, this would be Jordan Mason. You're back on a team that can't move the football. Yeah. Mason will, I'm sure, be on the show tomorrow. I'd be like we could spend the entire show talk in Minnesota if we wanted to. Oh, man. Only if we wanted to make everyone unhappy. Yeah, and throw up their Thanksgiving. Turns out.

It can get worse. I don't know. Is this true, Kyle, for sure, that they both McCarthy and Brasmer have a lower pass rating than if you just spike the ball on every play? I've seen those tweets. Because the turnovers count worse than a spike. So I think if the starter just spiked the ball on snap for the entire game, they'd have a higher passer rating than Brasmer and McCarthy. I've seen that. I mean, passer rating is just weird. Well, it's still crazy. Parker Washington left early with a hip injury. Brian Thomas Jr. returned anyways. The Parker Washington window is probably closed. Dylan Samson left early with a calf injury for the Browns. And we had a period of the Rams game. Kyron was out. And Corum was dominated. Looking great. And then Kyran came back to steal a touchdown from him at the end of a drive where Coram moved the football. Give me dead. Also, Kyran is on Papa Josh's team. So something to watch. You guys should keep an eye on the injuries.

He's fine. Woody Marks had a scare as well left, went to the locker room with a foot injury, came back and played fine. So I don't think that those are really things that will keep either player out this week. All right. That was, oh yeah, and Aaron Rogers, the nose, wrist, and being old. All those things. Hey, hey, what was my hope for, you know, I loved Tomlin. That they'd missed the playoffs with Rogers for the first time. For the first time that this would, this. in Mike Tomlin's career, when they get Aaron Rogers, it's going to cause him to not be above 500. And right now, they're sitting at 500. There's a screenshot and a bunch of people are posting it. It's the best tweet I've seen in a long time. It's just Rogers miserable on the sideline with a busted nose and a bandage on it. And it says Aaron Rogers looks like he just tried to rob Kevin McAllister's house. And he does. He looks just like he fell into the trap. He's a wet bandit.

Oh, the wet bandit, Aaron Rogers. The, the AFC North is, dude, it's going to be a wild finish because the Ravens are leading the division. They're both six and six with the Steelers. Yes. And then the Bengals who, I thought were eliminated a month ago are technically not that far out. And they play Baltimore in two weeks. Like, they're. There is a path. The entire NFL playoff schedule is wild. You had the Colts drop down. They, you know, they were number one in the NFL, and now they're not even leading their division. Jacksonville took that. You've got the number one seed bears where next week, if they lose... Say that again? Yeah. The number one seed bears. If they lose to the Packers, they become the seven seed. I mean... From one to seven? Yeah.

I mean, this NFL season, I think, has been really awesome with who is fighting for which spots. And you had the big upset this week in Carolina over the Rams in an impressive way. I mean, they're seven and six. Yeah. The only consistent thing we have is the Cardinal sucking. Oh, yeah. That was news and note sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at Progressive.com, Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers. Not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms. limits and conditions. We'll take a break. We'll hit the studs. This episode is brought to you by prize picks. The weather might be changing, but the feeling of being right never gets old. And right now on prize picks, you can get $50 instantly in lineups when you play your first $5. Prize picks is the only app that offers stacks, meaning you can pick the same player up to three times in the same lineup. You like Josh Allen this week? How much?

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That's code footballers to get $50 in lineups after you play that first $5 lineup. Prize picks, it's good to be right. This week's fantasy stud muffins presented by Lowe's. You guys ready to talk studs? Yeah. Top five scorers at the quarterback position this week. Patty Mahomes and Jordan Love, the top two spots. Thanksgiving was awesome football. Yeah. Awesome. I know there was a. There was some major duds, including Zay Flowers, who was negative in our scoring. Did you play him? Yeah. He had like a 40 yard touchdown. He had a 40 yard touchdown that got called back because of OPI, which was. Oh, and they took some points away for OPI. No. No, no, but I'm saying that that would that one catch is like, oh, that's 10 plus points for Zay Flowers instead. No. No. Sunday football.

I feel like Sunday stunk. The morning was very low. Thursday siphoned off all the great football. Yeah. Well, the Mahomes love starts were great. The game last night was insane. Mm-hmm. Insane. Oh, that was fun. Mariotta was number three on the week. Mario Ta. Yeah. Is that like T-A-H? It wasn't sure if there was just the T. Was there something about, um, A pronunciation update. I am not. But Collinsworth was hitting that team. Oh, man. I mean, that is Marriota. Yeah. Marcus Mariotta. Which is a problem because we've already had Murriatu from the commissioner. But nevertheless, number three on the week, Bryce Young back in the top five after a very disappearing act situation last week. But two weeks out of the last three, Bryce Young getting it done, making big plays in this game against the best defense in football.

or one of the best with the Rams. And then Trevor Lawrence at 21 points. It was an on week for the Jacksonville Jaguars. They could have done more. It was kind of a shame because they hopped out to such an early lead. Jacksonville just, Tennessee couldn't do anything against them. And it was like the game was over in the blink of an eye. I mean, Jacoby has been a very good addition for that team. We don't have a regret of the week segment, but if we did, it would be me insisting on playing the Brown's defense and dropping. I dropped Jacksonville to stay with the Browns. They were great, but did anyone pick them up? My opponent. Oh, they played him against you? Yeah, 15 to 2 difference. So, and I had signed Jacksonville a week ahead for this matchup and talked myself into, especially with the weather in San Francisco game. And man, the Browns defense were, they were handed some turd situations. Like the, we stopped them, they kick off, they muffed the punt, and it's a 20-yard field for San Francisco. That was hurt. Who else had a big game? We had.

Tarad Taylor. Performances, yeah. You know, was in consideration for a streaming option. And he had a pretty good game. You did. This is us talking you out of it. Yeah. I was, yeah, you wanted us to talk about you had the gut feeling about Tarad. You, you did. And he got it done. And they won. Atlanta also feels pretty bad to be Atlanta right now. They're in the Arizona conversation right now. Yeah, where you just need to take. everyone that works for the organization and say you are no longer allowed in the building there are teams in which you need to do the you know when you got like bed bugs in the house yeah you got a fumigate it and fumigate and everything inside dies respectfully respectfully died respectfully died so you could start with a calm sleep those everlasting sleep those bed bugs they just go nine night yes they will fix it with their

incredibly high draft pick for next year, right, Kyle? Oh, they don't have a pick, do that? I mean, their pick is paying off of this year. Not cool. Kyle's not a fan. Who has their pick? I don't even remember. Kyle, why don't you tell us your situation? The Rams? The Rams? Oh, come on. The Rams have that pick. The Rams are going to win the Super Bowl and have your pick? You just lost to the Jets. Oh, man. Good week for Dak. He is, I believe, been a top 10 quarterback all but two weeks in the last 10. I don't quote me exactly. I think that's right. He was the start of the week as well. And then Jacoby Brousset, I mean, he had like four points in the first half. It didn't matter. It's now seven straight top 12 finishes for Jacoby. I mean, I want people to understand. Since the Cardinals made him the starting quarterback, only Josh Allen has more fantasy points than Jacobi Brissette. It's wild. So, and you got.

Harrison back that helped the numbers a little bit, but even without Harrison, McBride is just a machine with him. Mm-hmm. Top five running back scores of the week. Welcome back to the upper tier, Bejan Robinson. He was allowed to get a touchdown this week. Permitted? Yeah, just one. Well, to be fair, they had multiple. They gave him the first shot. He didn't get it. And then Algeria got the second one. DeAndre Swift with a huge week for Chicago, they could not stop. They cannot be stopped in the running game. Kamani Vidal back up at 20. What does that change the rule with his red light green light situation? Did we determine the buy is omitted? Yeah, the buy was omitted. Oh my gosh, it's so true. 498, 357, 458, 563. Bench him! And now... So the buy is just irrelevant. Now Monday against the Eagles. Oh yeah, he'll have a horrible game. Potentially with Hampton. Yeah. Wow. Okay.

Thank you for your service. Yeah. I mean, Vidal has, I think he's interesting in terms of, like, has he really played himself into being the insurance running back? Oh, for sure. For the charges for the next year. I think they have a tremendous amount of trust with him. Yeah, you had both DeAndre Swift and Monong guy have huge weeks, by the way. Yes. And then RJ Harvey with 19.7, Devon H.N. Got the two studies. Chuba Hubbard. Yeah. Tide for number five. It's a. How are you feeling about that situation, Mike? The Chuba, RICO. 17 carries for Chuba, 18 for Rico. Sorry, Mike. It's going to be, it's a timeshare hot hand. And Chuba was playing great. Not that Rico was playing poorly, but Chuba got out to. The hot start. Yeah, he was already looking good. So they kind of, I feel like they kept with him more than RICO. But in terms of like opportunities, it's.

Like Rico had one more opportunity than Chuba. Yeah. Snap-wise, it was basically 60, 40. 59% of the snaps for Chuba, 42% for Rico. Um, okay. Derek Henry back into the end zone because it is snowing. And then James Cook, 144 yards rushing. Didn't get into the end zone. He's so good. I mean, he is a workhorse. 32 carries? He, he, he's getting, like this season. He has that mojo of every time James Cook gets the ball, I'm like, oh, here's 10 yards. It's going to happen. It's like, you know, when you're watching Gibbs, you just, you feel like every single touch is going to be to the end zone. He looks that good right now. And a credit, I mean, I think we've said it before, but like when he was holding out for the contract, it was kind of under the idea that he is this. And he is this. Right. Yeah.

And we thought maybe he wasn't this. He has nine games this season inside the top 10 at the running back on the week. He has, you know, if you have him, you're shockingly high in the standings. Yeah. AJ Brown, 30 points. Rashi Rice 25. That'll work. AJ Brown, another great week, another great loss with a bunch of production. That's the whole juxtaposition of the thing. They're winning a bunch of games without him. They start feeding him. They've lost two in a row. I think it's just the, they have to feed him because they're losing. Right. Yeah, that is the thing. It's like when the announcers always bring up 30 plus carries. Yeah, they go undefeated whenever they've carried the ball more than 40 times in a game. It's like, that's not why. It's the reason why they got the carry. So yeah, we've got it upside down. When the Eagles are down, they've got to throw and then AJ Brown is better. When the Eagles are dominating an opponent, they don't need to throw and AJ Brown does worse. It's, uh, you, you want.

the Eagles to play against teams that could score on them. So this next week, Chargers, okay, if Herbert is back and okay, then the playoffs, the Raiders, the commanders, maybe. Championship week against the bills, that's good. Okay. Don Tavian Wicks at number three on the week, Jameson, William's at four, C.D. Lamb at five. Dontabian Wicks, the target share, it's been pretty good. 298. 1925. I mean, Wix has always been someone that we've, he is awesome. He's a very talented guy, yeah. He is so good at getting open. We've just said he needs to learn how to catch. And if he's catching the targets, I mean, he could be very good for fantasy. But Jameson Williams is really the story right now. The my guy redemption. Son of a gun. I mean, he, he has been.