Situation Room + ADP Risers, Plant Man Powers - Fantasy Football Podcast for 7/17

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Jason Moore and Mike Wright. Welcome in. Saturday, July 17th. Saturday. Saturday. Saturday. The fantasy footballers, all three of us. Back with you. You here, Jason? I am here. All right. Yes, I am. We're all here. On a Saturday. Very nervous for tonight's game. So nervous, man. I want to explain something before we get into it.

Lots to talk about today. We're going into the Situation Room, a new segment here on the fantasy footballers. We've got some mailbag, some NFL news, lots of fantasy talk. Don't worry. It's coming soon. But I do want to take you behind the curtain to Jason Moore and sports fandom and what we experienced on the earth-shattering defeat of the Phoenix Suns on Thursday. Look, shat happened. Oh, yes, yes, yes.

We were not together for this game, watching this game. No. But we're always kind of together because we're in the Slack channel and we're just complaining about the referees or doing things that really biased hometown fans do. That's part of basketball. Right. But Jason was in another realm because we didn't think we could get him back on the Peloton. No, no. That's been dead to me since I got it. He pulled all the old clothes that were draped over it. Got the cobwebs off.

plugged it back in. I could not handle this game from the snap, from the opening snap off. I could not handle it. I literally was about to die watching this game. So I'm like, okay, I got to go, I got to go stress ride this Peloton bike. And it was the only time this is, Mike pointed this out watching that game. And keep in mind, the majority of the game we were up. I think we're up like 80% of the game and, you know,

I did not have one second of positivity or joy. And there's no fun. Watching this game is just stress. It's just nonstop. Complete freaking out worry. Like you can have a regular season game. You can have fun. Even if you lose it, especially in basketball when you play so many games, you're like, ah, that sucks that we lost. But no, I had fun watching it. It was an experience. Hung out with the family, had some snacks. Nothing.

And the whole goal of sports is to win the championship. But the finals are not enjoyable in the slightest. Well, when you win, they are. Yeah, those are real fun. At the end. Yeah, the after the win. And we did. So there's a game tonight. We'll all be there together. So you'll see that on social media. And you probably never see us again if we lose. So go sons.

You can find us on Twitter at the FFF Ballers. The Fantasy Footballers.com. Check out all of the tools, resources, things to help you in your league, player profiles, the ultimate draft kit. Everything is over there on the website. All right, let's hop into the situation room. The Situation Room, Footballers Edition. Into the situation room we go. In fact, Brooks the other day, he brought up this idea to us that I really loved the idea, the seed of the idea, which is that there are so many different scenarios you can find yourself in.

within your draft. You know, it comes quickly, right? Everything is preparing for the draft. We try to equip you with our tools and resources. You've got all of your research, probably got your own spreadsheets. There's a lot that goes into the draft. And then, you know, as Mike said earlier, stuff happens. Yes. And you can be put in some awkward situations. So Brooks had brought up, you know,

He wanted to throw us right into like a wild and crazy mock draft and have us kind of go through what we would do when put in those situations. And today he's bringing one of those forward. It's like we're doing a mock draft and then we're getting a good old fashion, Zach Morris, time out. Exactly. And so this situation, well, here it is. You actually did it.

Here's the situation. You use your first round draft pick on a tight end. His name is Travis Kelsey. Now what? Okay. How does that impact your decision making throughout the rest of the draft, the overall strategy? Maybe you'd win into the draft and you thought this was a possibility, but you wouldn't get him. Like, I think a good example of that would be if you were in the 11 or 12 spot. And you figure, well, he's going at 9 to this other teammate in my league. And then all of a sudden,

He's there and you don't know what to do so you take him and your whole plan. Everything you mock drafted when you took that other running back in the first round, it's gone. What do you do? So it definitely has an effect on how you draft the rest of the way. I'm going to assume here that you got Travis Kelsey at...

near the one-two turn, whether you're 11 or 12 or 10, you're close together at the end of the first, at the beginning of the second, which means you are at the end of the third, beginning of the fourth. And when I am looking at those picks, to me, I have paired Kelsey with a running back. So on my one-two, and if I either went running back, they do pair nicely. It's like a fillet and a nice.

Pino noir. But I'm going to, you know, personally, whether I went running back and got Kelsey early in the second or Kelsey and still the running backs in the beginning of the second are good. You might get a Joe Mix and an Austin Echler, a player like that. If that's the case, then at the three-four turn, this is where I'm probably going to end up wide receiver, wide receiver and not looking at running back for a little while.

after you've gotten the RB in the second. Right. To Claire. Okay. Yeah, I was a little. I got you. So long as one of, there are a handful of running backs that if they drop to the end of the third, I've seen it happen. They're not, that's not their average draft price, but if a Clyde Edwards-Alair or a Najee Harris, one of those type of guys drops all the way to the back of the third, then I am willing to go running back there.

and then wide receiver. But what I'm not going to do personally, and I've talked about this before, I'm not going to be drafting. Like, I love Kyler in the 5th. He's off my board. Because as I'm explaining what it looks like with your running back and wide receiver, you can already tell there's a hole somewhere. Either I'm not getting that other running back and I'm going to load up on wide receivers for a while, be a little bit weaker, or if I don't do that, then I'm a little weaker at wide receiver. You take another quarterback.

And now your positions where you've got running backs and wide receivers where you play multiple and you've got to have by-week depth and injury depth and all that, that gets dicey. Mike, what if Patrick Mahomes falls to your pick in the third round and you have that temptation? Look, I know you never want to take Mahomes. You just said this on the last show. But you have Kelsey on the roster. You end up with a great running back in the second round. You're so happy. And then Patrick Mahomes is there.

for the elite stack. I, that would be extremely tempting. Because you're now, you aren't, you're not capping your upside with entering a week-to-week scenario where you have Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes. You are setting yourself up for a very high weekly ceiling.

It's a wonderful ride. I had that ticket last year. You have this now, don't you? Yeah, I do. I think I ended up in our keeper lottery. Yeah, I have both of those players. That sucks. It's funny. Okay, let's examine this because that's true, right? Like, if you know anyone in your league with Kelsey Mahomes, you're scared of them, you hate it, you know what that week looks like and how fun it is to have. Right, so why not just draft them?

Right. I guess that's my point is that, like, is there a, I'm just going for the fun here. It's like, you know, in a heavyweight fight, that is, that's the, that's the, the box of throwing the haymakers where when you build up a team with a strong foundation, you've got a strong body, you can absorb those shots, and you're more of a Floyd Mayweather, because you're built for the distance. As long as you can absorb, uh, Travis Kelsey on any given week.

catching two touchdowns and then Mahomes doing some other stuff. But, I mean, it's like, did you win the championship last year in our League of Record with that stack? I don't think that's important. I think it's very important. No, you did not. In fact, I've lost with Mahomes and a Kelsey stack and a Mahomes, Tyreek stack in the playoffs. Because you get a bad game, you get a down game, and obviously you're so dependent on those players. It's a wild and fun ride if it was Allen and Diggs last year through your championship, but it can go.

You know, you're just obviously more eggs in one basket. Yeah. So personally speaking, I don't do that. But it's more of, not that I don't want to have that stack. And I really don't blame people if they want to go with that strategy. It's in a single quarterback league, the replaceability of quarterback where I can get, you know, 75% of Patrick Mahomes on any given week off of the waiver wire in a great, if someone happens to have a great matchup.

I still will pass on it personally, even though it is very tempting to head into the season with those guys and then just say, well, you know what? I'm going to figure out some other stuff in the season. Sometimes you can build that stack later through trades and deals that are larger where you're not paying the third round premium for Mahomes, but you are navigating it via trade. Brooks, is there anything from that situation that you still have questions about?

How about the elite tight-end stack? Do you guys ever do that? Oh, gosh, no. You're saying more than one? No, that's a very common question. If you grab Kelsey, should you then go for Kiddle or Waller so you have the elite tight ends? That is a great bad question, Brooks. Never, ever, ever do that. I mean, tight-in premium leagues, it's not a good idea to do that. You have to have.

the season, you know, assuming that this is a normal, you know, redraft keeper league like the majority of people play in, the season is a game of attrition. And the multiple position slots, you have to have depth there. You have to have the ability to play more guys there. When you draft a second player, he might score as much or more than other flex options. But that's the only place you could play him is your flex. You can't play both of those players.

in one of your main starting roster spots. So now all of your wide receivers take a massive step down. And when you have the buy weeks, when you have all of those injuries that come throughout the season, now everything is just so shallow and it's not worth that. If you really look at where those tight ends stack against great wide receiver options, they don't actually outscore the great wide receivers usually. They can sneak into the top 10.

But in the third round, you have an actual chance of drafting the number one wide receiver. I think Stefan Diggs was like a fourth. Sixth round pick. He was a sixth. So there are players in that area that have a decent probability shot of finishing as the overall number one wide receiver, where Darren Waller would have to have a historic of all historic years to finish in points per game.

even with the wide receiver won. And then even still throughout the year, you're stuck. You were locked into that forever. And it's funny because I've seen people do this mostly to taunt and then tantalize the league with trades. And it's like you bought tickets for a game you can't go to and you've got to try to unload them and the price goes down further and further and further. Oh, man. Don't draft players to trade them.