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Situation Room + ADP Risers, Plant Man Powers - Fantasy Football Podcast for 7/17

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Even in a keeper league, if it's a one keeper, so it's basically a fifth rounder, those are still pretty valuable picks to get a free CD lamb. I'm taking Gibson. Makes sense. Did you change your mind there, Andy? I mean, he's right about the round exchange for the running back position. Do some detective work and see if you can find out who else is being kept. Yeah, I mean, that probably persuades me into Gibson because it's still a value on him. And there's probably...

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not going to be a similar running back of any sort in the fourth round of your draft. So I think I, just thinking of our league in the way that that pans out with keepers, obviously it's only one keeper. I think that persuades me into Gibson. It's a very close race there. So, there's no wrong answer between two great options though. Congratulations. Yes. I think I know why I can't get as behind Gibson or like Fitzpatrick or some of these Mike hype picks. Why? I thought you were going to tell us.

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Yeah. He just, I figured it out. Yeah, I just, I'm happy I figured it out. No, it's because I like, I just think that there are like two sides to that. And you're so excited about Gibson that I never hear you say the wrong side. I never hear you say what might go wrong for Gibson or might go wrong for Terry McLaren or wrong for Fitzpatrick. That's fair. Honestly, when I'm, when I'm comparing the two players, I have more confidence in Terry McLaurin.

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producing at a high level this year. Things for like Antonio Gibson way overproduced in the touchdown area last year. So if you have, if that offense stagnates and that offense doesn't actually improve moving to Ryan Fitzpatrick from the Duane Haskins slash Alex Smith team, then you, then you will have a problem with Antonio Gibson because there are, I don't think you see as much volume of.

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of passes going to the running back, where I still believe it will be okay is because I think that the overall offense gets better. But that is my projection for the team. So if they don't actually improve, then yes, there will be a situation where Antonio Gibson is disappointing. I'll be rooting for them. I want to see them win that division again. And they're going to get renamed next year. You heard that, right? I did. Official. Yes. Here's a great follow-up question. Keeping the colors, too.

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Great follow-up question just to put some numbers on it from Brett Janke. Antonio Gibson, what's his floor? What's his ceiling? I have, I think his ceiling is RB3, his floor is RB 23. I think his ceiling is RB8, and I think his floor is probably RB24. I'd side more with Jason's numbers. All right. Instagram question from Sawyer Shaw in a Dynasty League, full blow it up.

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Rebuild mode. Would you trade or hold Mark Andrews if you're in that boat? Oh, wow. He's probably a trade to me. If you're in full blow it up mode, I would probably move him. It's tough. He's 25 years old, which is pretty young for a tight end, right? I mean, we see a lot of these. He's got to be due for a contract, right? Yeah, yeah. He's, I'll bet he gets extended this year. You know, he had a, I think most people view.

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Mark Andrews is having had a down year. I've had a lot of questions lately on if I'm in a rebuild, do I trade player X? And I generally tend to go, well, how is their value right now? Did they peak last year and they're great and you can get a lot for them? Or are they maybe down below what the talent of the player is worth? And I think right now Mark Andrews is a little...

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undervalued. He is a little undervalue. And so I might hold him because he's still good for a rebuild. It's just funny. He had five top five performances at the tight-in position in the first 11 weeks. So 50% of those games, he dominated for your team at the tight-in position. Yeah. But it did feel weird because Lamar felt weird. The offense felt weird. You missed game due to injury.

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And you had Waller that was super consistent. And Hawkinson did pretty well. So I think that there was a little luster came off of Mark Andrews future last year for some reason. Yeah. And he still in games played, was seeing over 24% of the targets. And I mean, this just has to be a psychological thing of we talk a lot about how a player does at the beginning of the year. That's your, a lot of your.

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your core memories built about how that player did that season are formed right then because the attention is at its maximum and your excitement is at its peak. And week one, he was the number one guy, but then he crushed you weeks two and week three. And then you had a three pack of games six, or week six, eight, and nine. There was a biweek in the middle of there where he also crushed you. So I think that is, that's, that's, that's,

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And he will do that. And he even did that. That's his MO. Like he's not Kelsey or Waller. He's not volume. He's touchdowns. Even in his elite breakout season, it was 64 receptions. We came into the year going, what if his target share goes up and, you know, then he got hurt and he missed a couple extra games. So those numbers would have been about the same.

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So I think that he's just a different weapon and he's probably undervalued. And what was his pace? I mean, his pace last year was 72 for 965 and 11. That's dominant. Yeah, that's great. So Darren Waller had five games outside of, with my quick math, five games outside of the top 15. Well, Mark Andrews had six. Yeah. Like Mark Andrews was consistent, but those, the bombs that he dropped were.

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We're devastating weak. And there was a weird cloud on that team in the first 11 weeks. Yes. Vopo on Instagram writes in, why is Brooks Alter Ego 54-year-old actor Paul Giamatti? In fact, there are lots of questions about that, obviously. It's really. Because he is Paul Giamatti. Yeah. Oh, man.

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It's just, if you've seen him, you know. Yeah, a lot of times. It looks identical to 54-year-old actor Paul Giamatti. When we are out, usually we get stopped. And it's, you know, you would think it's for the three of us. Yeah. But it's actually, they go, Paul? Have you ever seen Paul Giamatti and Brooks in the same room at the same time? I have never once seen that. I have, because I haven't. On those grounds, though, you might be Paul Giamati. Oh, crap.

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Yeah, so what happened? One day, it was a question about who would play so-and-so in a movie about us. And I think Andy just, you know, clearly pegged Paul Giamatti as a dead ringer for... I think he intentionally was trying to besmirge the name of Brooks. You think?

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Do you think 54-year-old actor Paul Giammati? It's a phenomenal actor. We also, we hung up a really unforgettable, large, glossy photo of Paul Giammati above his head while we record the show. It's got to be the worst photo. It's got to be the world's worst photo. And he's like kind of watching out for you and over you every day.

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Do you feel his comforting gaze? And also the sweat, that is not a comforting gaze. Can sweat drip off that photo onto you? Yeah, I don't feel much comfort from that behind me. Okay. And what was the movie? That was, he looks kind of like sideways. No, that was. Paul Giamati was in a different era. Oh, yeah. That photo of Paul Giamati was a press photo where he forgot to put the powder on. Oh, yeah. Oh, you always got a powder up. They had that flash turned up a little high.

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It's pro tip out there. Keep the powder on, especially if your name is 54-year-old actor Paul Giamatti. So there you go. We have a lot of fun with the employees and personnel here on staff. That's why Danny DeVito. Oh, yeah, Al. What is Al Borland? How do you feel now that he's Danny DeVito? I'll take GMMA. Yeah, yeah.

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Let's go. Well, we got a follow-up. Someone wants to know how Mike got dubbed the fantasy hitman as well. All right. And then jump in. It's not a very interesting story comparatively to most nicknames. And all rules were shattered for this. But back when Andy and I were starting the podcast and we're trying to figure out names and, you know, the fantasy footballers, a couple other were floated out.

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one of the names floating around was the fantasy hitman. It's like, I kind of like that. But we ended up going with fantasy footballers, of course. And then early in on the run, I think we're like three episodes in and Andy has to miss an episode already because the show was really, really important to what we were doing, our lunch hour once a week at our day job. But anyway, so I had someone else come in and be the co-host. It really just was me hosting the show. So I.

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as I tend to do, turn into a buffoon, and I'm just, I'm doing whatever I want to do. And then I start demanding halfway through the show that my co-hosts start referring to me as the fantasy hitman. And that's it. And then when Andy came back, every time he would introduce us, you know, Andy and Mike, oh, Andy, that's Mike the fantasy hitman. And Andy.

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and it would just get on his nerves so much that I had to keep doing it. And so it turned, like everything on this show, it was a bit of me correcting him every single time. Like 54 year old actor Paul Giamani. And then it, then it just eventually gets out of the state of being a bit and just becomes part of the canon. Now you're known as the fantasy hitman. Congratulations. We did it. Jose wants to know.

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Who will stand out most in the 49ers passing game? Brandon Ayuk. George Kittle. Yeah, I mean, I would go George Kittle. But if the question is out of the wide receiver core, I would go Brandon Ayuk. So I love your guys's answers. I agree. I feel like I got tricked. Instagram question. How do I convince my league to switch to PPR? I don't want to. They don't want to because it makes irrelevant players more relevant.

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I feel like it would make teams more competitive. This is not good because my entire argument for going to a half or a full PPR.

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is that it makes more players relevant. But if you're, if your league's argument against it. I have seen this with certain players. Why? Like a Hunter Renfro has a greater value in fantasy and a PPR than he ever has on the field for the Raiders would be an example. Cole Beasley. Why you go to half PPR? Yeah, I was just going to say that. I mean, the half PPR is that sweet spot where.

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PPR, you could easily win an argument is possibly more fun, but half PPR. Much higher scores. Yeah, more scoring, more players that can be relevant. But half PPR is a really, really nice balance where it feels like what is happening on the field is accurately being rewarded in fantasy. And it doesn't overblow.

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in either direction. So I love half PPR. That's our format of choice. All right. Instagram question. Who's ADP do you expect to be much higher by draft day or the start of the NFL season? The first name that I would think of is Giovante Williams. We had just covered the AFC West and his current ADP is fantastic to me where I would be scooping them up in all best ball drafts that I could. But...

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By the time training camp rolls around and we get more confirmation, either way, I think he'll end up being hyped up by the beat reporters in Denver. He will move up probably into that fourth round range where it can get kind of dicey and feel more like David Montgomery's rookie year where he was chilling out in that round six to seven area.

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And then the rookie hype really set in. Yeah, he jumped up pretty quick. I feel like it's going to be Travis E.T.N. Another rookie running back in the sense that right now his value is low. The news out of camp is all pro James, James Robinson and yada, yada. But when the rubber meets the road and preseason games are happening and you watch some electric cut that he makes on the field, I think he's just going to skyrocket as people realize.

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