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Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - WR's 21-40, Fantasy News, Injuries, Listener Questions

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in the first two weeks blank so that we can pay these things out. The season is coming. Yeah, we will. The weekly bets will happen. We will. And our water wheel app is coming to. Oh, it's going to be glorious. So stay tuned for that. So Decker and Randall, these are guys that are not, you know, they're not in the wide receiver one, maybe even wide receiver two position for Randall. But.

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They are talented and they have opportunity and they both have target numbers that are, you know, Randall was 127, Decker was 115. Anything you guys want to say about them before we hit 37, 38, 39? Eric Decker is extremely underrated. Eric Decker is a very good receiver, a very good receiver. And now he gets to go back to his natural position of being a two. Brandon Marshall is going to take the coverage.

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I don't think it swings to Eric Decker. If it goes to Eric Decker, then Marshall is going to feast. But I think it goes to Marshall, and Eric Decker has an even easier time. And he was still a very strong receiver with a bum hamstring all year and a bad offense. The difference between Eric Decker is a one and a two, is that as a two, he breaks loose. And he gets those super long bombs, and that's coming back. You know, that's what you saw a lot with Tim Tebow back in the day. All right, number 37 on our list is...

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John Brown out of Arizona, and as Arizona residents and fans of the Cardinals, unbiasedly, please pay attention to John Brown. I don't know what his ADP is right now. 802. He's going in the eighth round. Okay, so he's going to rise. Yeah, he jumped because of the Floyd injury. Because of the Floyd injury. But you need to take a chance on John Brown. He might be the most talented wide receiver in Arizona. Yes. And he has added, he has gained weight.

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Which was the one knock on him last year was he was a little bit too small to get off a press coverage so easily. Ten pounds of upper body strength. He is a dynamic playmaker, and he will be targeted a lot. He might be on the field as the wide receiver two for the entire season. He's lightning fast. He's very T.Y. Hilton ass. He is very T.Y. Hilton-like. And Carson Palmer doesn't get enough credit, but if this offense really opens up, you've got a guy you get an eighth round that could be an absolute half to start.

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Week in, week out. I mean, that's what more can you want. You have to pay attention to John Brown. Let's be serious. If the Cardinals are trotting out, Chris Johnson, they're opening up the past game. You see Arian said that the door's open for Chris Johnson to be the lead back. Well, he also said it's open for him to not make the hostage. I know. The options are endless for Chris Johnson. It's one of those spinny revolving doors. All right, 38, 39, 40, Mike Wallace, Marcus Colston, and Brashad Perryman.

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We talked a lot about Wallace already, so Colston and Perryman. I guess we talked about Perryman too. So Colston. Let's spend the rest of the show on Marquis Colston. I'm actually... I love Colston. You know me, Andy. I have always been a Marcus Colston guy. He's always been another one of those undervalued guys. He seems a little older. He seems a little injury prone. There's always some reason why you don't grab him. There's someone else that's prettier there to draft.

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No, that's true. Yeah, you know, but at the same time, I think that now is the age that's starting to catch up with them. When you click the draft button on Colston or Bolden, you never feel like, woo-hoo. But you generally are happy you have them on your team. Yeah, by week three, you're happy. But so Colston, last year was a very down year for him. It was the first time he'd been under 70 catches since 2008. He's a generally slow starter, too, in fantasy.

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And like we said, New Orleans, lots of targets are gone. Kenny Stills is gone. Jimmy Graham is gone. And so someone has to catch those passes, which is why we were talking about Cook's last week, where he's gone up just sheer volume will be there. But we need to monitor.

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this Brandon Coleman situation. So that is 21 through 40 on our wide receiver ranks. If you want to go beyond 40 and see the rest of those ranks, you can go to the website. The Fantasy Footballers.com, click the rankings button. We will be updating those more and more frequently now that drafts are taking place. I mean, they're fairly updated, but we need to make some adjustments. Apparently, I need to lower Tori Smith. But let's go ahead and answer some questions from our listeners. Mailbag. Mailbag.

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All right. If you have a question, you can go to the website, click the submit a question button. You can also call us, leave us a voicemail question 3.02-464-T-F-FB. It is easy to do. Easy as peasy. All right, this question comes in from Brad in Austin, Texas. Is Gronk more valuable in smaller leagues? In an eight-team league, I feel like the ability to start a stud at an extra position is more important because of the high concentration of talent. Is he right or is he wrong?

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I think he's right. That's always been my strategy, is that everyone's got studs all across the board, but if you've got the best at your position, then you've got an edge over everyone's good roster. I completely agree on Gronk, and I will say it with this. I don't, I still don't elevate Rogers and Luck to top first round pick, but Gronk is for me in 18. No. Okay. I consider it in 18 leagues, that's for sure. All right, let's go voicemail question here.

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Hey guys, thanks for taking the chance to listen to my question, big fan of the show. I'm in a 14-team PPR league, and I've got, I'm thinking about giving up Latavius Murray and Danny Woodhead for Russell Wilson. My quarterback right down is Teddy Bridgewater, and it is six, it's a half-point PPR, I should say, and it's six points for passing touchdown. So I feel like I'm getting a great deal here. You are not, sir.

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Thank you. Thank you. If you are watching on YouTube, you've seen three people that are... You've got to hit that warning button. Yeah. Abort. Thank you for calling in, and I hope waiting for the response. Do not do that. Do not do that trade. There are 20 reasons to not do that trade. I'll just give you like two or three. And their names are all quarterback. There's 20 quarterback reasons. First of all, Russell Wilson in a six-point...

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touchdown league isn't all that great. He gets the advantage because some of his touchdowns are... In four-point leagues, he's more advantageous. Yeah, exactly. So he's not even all that valuable. Plus, you know, we don't value the quarterback that high anyways. I would trade Russell Wilson for Latavis Murray straight up, and my favorite sleeper is Danny Woodhead. So... Yeah, you can't give up two potential running back candidates in a 14-team league where you need them. You know what he needs to do?

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Do not miss tomorrow's show where we are going to talk about quarterbacks. It's true. And he has Bridgewater. So we'll talk about Bridgewater. We like him a lot. Zach in Des Moines said, would you trade Chris Ivory for DiAngelo Williams? He says he has Bell Forset, Yeldon, Ellington, and Blunt as his backs. No. No. Not a chance. I thought you wanted a high five. Don't trade a guy that is a starter on an NFL offense for a guy who is...

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We don't even know. I don't even know if he's going to be the starter for the first two games that Levy and Bell misses. I'm not convinced of that yet. D. Archer's looked fine. They'll split. They'll committee that thing. All right. D-Train and NC. That is North California. No, North Carolina. Dear Pete, Paul, Roger. Surprise so many people are so high on Mike Evans. He did most of his damage last year in only three games versus subparred defenses.

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He also will have a rookie quarterback passing him the ball. I think Evans is overrated and has huge bust potential detrain. I agree. You could go back to yesterday's show. Yeah, exactly. I still like Mike Evans. I think he's going to get his because he's one of two main targets and he's six foot five and he's a good wide receiver. But he was a touchdown dependent guy. So yeah, there's clear reason that he could regress. And people are drafting him as if he's going to absolutely just improve.

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That is a bad assumption to make on rookie. Yeah. I think he improves. But I can understand, no, I can understand the bust risk on Mike Evans, but I think his talent is just tremendous. Yeah, he did the damage in three games, but he's now a second year. We see receivers often elevate their game in their second year. All right, let's go ahead and answer another voicemail.

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tight ends. I know y'all are high on Kelsey, and there seems to be a steep drop after Kelsey and Olson go. I also know y'all are high on Eifford, and I really like, you know, waiting late on any mid-round guys, and Delaney Walker, and all the guys whose ADPs are between there, are any of those mid-round guys worth drafting, and if so, who, and why? Would really appreciate your help on this issue. Thanks a lot. Anybody?

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Well, first, though, I wanted to say, hello, Beau. Yeah, very nice. Roy, hello. So we are high on Eifford because you can get them late. We're very high on Witten. We've talked about Witten, and you can get Witten late. And so there are guys that, you know, I think Greg Olson has a better year than Witten. I think Martellus Bennett has a better year than Witten. But that's it.

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That's literally the only two guys other than the other guys he named that I think have a better year. And so you're going to have to either give up a fifth or a sixth round pick where you could be getting one of those wide receivers we just talked about today that are going to help improve your team. And so now you don't get those guys. Or you just take those guys and then get Jason Witten or Tyler Eifert or those guys later. I don't think the mid-round tight ends are of value ever. Yeah.

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We don't see a huge difference. Once the Kelsey Floor hits for me, and I'll guess I'll put Olson up there too. Yeah, I would put Olson. Those guys are very, very similar. So you want to take one as late as possible. I just happen to think that Whitney and Eifford are the cream of that crop, and those are the guys that I'll target. And we will talk tight ends on Friday's episode. We'll be going through them extensively. Guys like Jordan Cameron will discuss because I think he's another potential value. He went up.

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Yeah, he went up. Jordan Reed. Yeah, we've had all, you know, assuming he's still around. Michael Jordan? Michael Jordan? Yeah. It's just going to be a Jordan show. Wow. Yeah. Jordan's back. Jordan is back. Is he wearing 45? Does he wear 45 or 25? 55. He was 55. He's a little older. Oh, is that his age? Yeah. All right. Sorry. Speaking of Wizards.

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Ah? Ah, very nice. Fantasydraftwizard.com. Check it out for your mock drafts. On Thursday this week, we have JJ Zacharisen, the late round quarterback on. Yeah, yeah. That's tomorrow, by the way. Thursday is tomorrow. And we'll talk top 20 quarterbacks. This is a show you want to pay attention to, especially if you're thinking about trading Russell Wilson for Russell Wilson and trading two.

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Great running backs away to get him. We'll talk all about streaming quarterback strategy, and JJ will go into some of that with us. If you don't know what we're talking about, even more reason to listen tomorrow. So make sure you check that out. You guys have any final thoughts? You got any final thoughts? Shady's going to be fine, everybody. Maybe. He's going to be just fine. We'll see who the Reaper gets tomorrow. Pay attention to Twitter. Goodbye. For listening to another edition of the Fantasy Footballers podcast.

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