The TRUTH: WRs Part 2 + Start Your Engines! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 2/6

The last time he was an offensive coordinator hitter was in 21 with Minnesota. Yep. There we go. So it'll be interesting to see what implications there are. Derek Carr looks like he's going to be the car they're stuck with. Yeah. Yeah. What kind of car is that? Is that an old reliable? Does it get you from point A to point B? It's not the worst. Do you have to change the oil more than every 3,000 miles? I think it's more about the. The financing problem? Yeah. It's a lease. Yeah, you're upside down. Yeah, it's not going to pay off. And now they've got. You want a new car, but you have, you're just upside down. Yeah. So you've got a couple more years of Derek Carr. The latest rumor is he's going to restructure in a way that he would be forcibly there for two more seasons. Will force himself there? Is that the same? I don't know who's being forced, but there is a hostage somewhere.

Chris Olava, will you be in next year? He's the wide receiver 12 in this past draft. I will be. I imagine he'll be drafted at 1213 again. Yeah, he'll be in a similar spot since 2010. He is one of only 21 wide receivers with 2,000 or more receiving yards in their first two years. Like he's a good player, but only DeAnd Andrew Hopkins and Garrett Wilson had fewer. receiving touchdowns in that time since or other than OLAVe. Yeah, to me. He only had five touchdowns. So that was a big part of the story, missing deep. On these wide receiver twos we're talking about today and even last episode, we're talking about guys on the way down like a Stefan Diggs, a Devante Adams versus someone like Chris Olave who has yet to necessarily break out. Obviously Chris Olave had a worse total fantasy season than those other two guys. But next season.

I would definitely take Chris Olavé over the elder statesman. Let me move on and give you just some other important names as we close out the wide receiver episode. Jefferson finished at 29, Addison at 21. But Jefferson, the truth of Jefferson was that consistency rank. He was number four. He had the major injury, cost people a bunch of their season. During that stretch, we got to see a lot of Jordan Addison in the first half with Kurt Cousins. It was a really terrible second half for Jordan Addison. But I think that there are tons of question marks in people's minds around Addison, not Jefferson. We all know Jefferson deserves to be picked very highly and he will be great. But Addison will be interesting because, you know, does Kirk Cousins come back? What is the impact of Justin Jefferson being healthy over the course of the year due to Jordan Addison where, you know, we know how explosive he can be? But dipped from, you know, number 70 consistency to 45 in the second half, but you had a different quarterback.

I just feel like it's going to be a big swirling mess for where Addison will go in drafts, knowing that you're drafting a two for his own team. Quarterback's going to be humongous here. Obviously, the second half of the year, you look after the by week. Week 13 was their buy. They had the late one. And then at that point, you had Justin Jefferson back and Jordan Addison there, but bad quarterback played. They were shuffling quarterbacks every week. Those two guys each had two really good games and mostly. awful, horrendous games with those quarterbacks. I just, you know, it's kind of like the Jamar Chase thing. I don't blame a wide receiver for not having a quarterback that can get you the ball reliably. Jordan Addison was really, really good in the beginning of the year. And if Kirk Cousins is there, I'll be back in on Addison again. What does back in mean, though? Top 24, top 36? Yeah, no, I think he'll be a wide receiver too. Yeah, a low, low end wide receiver two.

So that, all right, and then let's talk about Garrett Wilson in the, when you talk about quarterbacks to let you down. This was not what we wanted. He was a wide receiver 10, finished at 32, consistency of 34. Played the whole year. Consistency in the first half was 24, second half, 38, busted 38% of the time, good 38% of time, no great games, no Aaron Rogers. This was, there's just no way to spend this. The best thing you can do for the Garrett Wilson story is just, You believe in the player and the talent, but now you're going to have to believe in a one year older off of an Achilles, Aaron Rogers. And I think it'd be naive to not acknowledge the fact that Rogers playing the whole year is probably longer odds. And not because he's going to re-injure his Achilles, but because, you know, he's been banged up and he's old. And he's behind a sieve. Of an offensive line. Yeah.

So, I mean, this was a terrible, this was a full-on bust pick. It might not have been your fault. You can go hang the blame on Aaron or the Jets because I'd do both. Jets could have got somebody competent over the next, what, he went out in the first play of the first game almost. So you had, what, 17.9 weeks to fix the problem and you didn't. But this was a really, really disappointing year for Garrett Wilson for fantasy players. Yeah, the words of solace or some optimism here would be to remind people of DeAndre Hopkins, who highly drafted target or NFL prospect was sought after. And the first few years in Houston were, they were just okayish. He was 52, 800 yards and two as a rookie. 76, 1,200 yards.

and six touchdowns as a sophomore, which Garrett Wilson as a sophomore trying to find that it was 95 for 1,042 and 3. And then year three, he finally got some good quarterback playing. He was 111, 1,500 yards, and 11 touchdown. I'm not saying that's going to happen. Yeah, I don't love that comparison because it was the Andre Johnson effect in those first two years for Hopkins. That made the biggest impact to me. Yeah, he was the two. He was the two. Where Wilson's the one, like. Because you could go back and you could say the same thing about Devanti Adams. I mean, Adams had his first two years were not good. But he's also in the shadow of Cobb and Nelson. So look, I don't think any of us are writing Garrett Wilson off. Goodness gracious, he's one of the most talented players in the game. Like you could make an argument to me. I'd just take the lowest of Wilson and Oliva if I want to shoot for a 23-year-old wide receiver. Just let me take the one that drops the lowest in the draft.

and shoot your shot on an evolution and an ascension. I'm just a little bit afraid of like we know how quickly it went bad in New York. And I'm afraid it might go bad in New York again real quick. Sure. Now we know where the floor is. Jets fans will tell you it usually does. I mean, that's just like is your Aaron Rogers confidence production wise very high? No. Even if he's healthy? I was a little sad. to not be able to find out, because I didn't think Aaron Rogers still had it. I thought, you know, his last year in Green Bay was, you know, the beginning of the end. He wasn't that good in Green Bay. He didn't get the Packers in a very weak NFC, a very weak division to the playoffs. He didn't support his wide receivers. And then he changed teams. And I didn't think he was getting better on a new team at an older age. So, no, I think even if he plays.

He is not the Aaron Rogers of old. Maybe I'm wrong. I hope for Garrett Wilson's sake I am, but that was my belief going into last season, and we just didn't get to see it. Give me, so we got the numbers of the truth for Garrett Wilson. We're hoping anything better on offensive line and quarterback play will mean, like, he still caught 95 passes, right? He was the clear go-to receiver. They were just like, they were just so bad. He's probably the go-to again. He had 168 targets. It's hard to finish down at. wide receiver 32. It's pretty unbelievable. When you get 168 targets. Jalen Waddle. Was I throwing the ball? Jalen Waddle came in at 34. He was drafted as the wide receiver 11. And you might say, okay, he missed some time. Well, how did he do consistency-wise? He was 28th. 14% great, 29% good, 21% bust. This is a bust season. Well, so he was better than this on a points per game basis. He was basically about the wide receiver 22.

on points per game. He missed three games, uh, ended the season injured. But when you take out the injured games, you just look about how is his consistency? We have 47 career games and we've done this truth episode each year. And basically he's very consistently the same, which is he's got, you know, around 15% great games, just incredible games. He's got a third of his games that are outright busts. And then a third that are good. He's not a hyper-consistent player. Now, this would be more of one of those, like, can he do the Hopkins thing? Can he do the Julio Jones thing where a couple of years into your career when the predecessor who was the superstar wide receiver, you know, when Andre Johnson or Roddy White say, okay, now I'm gone, can you step up and be that super consistent one? I still believe that for Jalen Waddle, his talent.

shows out, but while he is the two, he's not a consistent player. And I don't think he will be next year or the next year until Tyreek is gone. Yeah, this was, you did. You wanted to see his ability to take over a game and 1A, 1B, but it's not. It's 1A2. Yeah. I believe that's called 1-2. I don't know. You don't need the, you don't need the A there. It felt like calling Tyreek just the one was insulting. Like I needed to like one A is way worse. No, one A is like you don't have a B is it worse? I feel like I was. Oh, what if it was A one? Stakes sauce. Yeah, that's how stakes are done. Wait, you know the jingle? I don't know. Look, Wada was the seventh wide receiver last year. Yes. Number seven. He caught three fewer passes than last year.

But he did the inverse of the Brandon Ayyuk. He went from 1,356 yards on 75 catches to 1,014 yards on 72 catches. The actual opposite of Iyuk. Is that a cautionary tale? It is. Yeah. I mean, that's the point is when you're talking about a player who is getting around 80 or fewer receptions, you're not. going to usually have consistency. The fact that you had consistency from Ayuk this year is just surprising, impressive. And hopefully that means next year he, you know, for Ayuk, graduates from the 80 receptions. But if you're living in the 80 or fewer receptions, you're not usually going to be a consistent player. There will be some other wide receivers we talk through, but not today. We'll get into it on the rookie review show, Jaden Reed, Rashi Rice, Zave Flowers, Tank Dell, big names you want to hear about.

Those will be part of our rookie review episode on Thursday. We will come back with the truth about the tight-in position and review that. It was interesting this year. See if we can convince Jason to go in on Brock Bowers in the first round. Probably can't. Not bloody likely. And that'll do it for today. So thank you for joining us. We appreciate you. Make sure you head over to Spotify Apple. Leave us a review if you got a couple seconds today. It helps the show. You can find us on YouTube, YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join thefoot.com. And follow us on Twitter at the FF ballers.