over Jack Doyle. I'm fine with Noah fan, but a guy like Darren Fells, would you rather play Jack Doyle or Fells? That's close. I mean, that's a toss-up because Fells has got to compete with Aiken's and, you know, it's, yeah, those are both options. I'm probably moving away from both of them. I'd rather play some higher upside athletes than I would Jack Doyle personally, but he's in that category. Kyle Rudolph.
Week 13 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, #TakeLock
Week 13 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, #TakeLock
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147 passagesIt's tough to have full confidence. I mean, Kyle Rudolph has been fantastic for fantasy purposes, but you can see a strong correlation. Adam Thielen's been out. And that's when Kyle Rudolph has been producing, catching touchdowns with Adam Thielen. We expect him back this week. I haven't seen any news to the contrary that that Minnesota is expecting Adam Thielen to be back.
That makes me far less confident in Kyle Rudolph. And I'm with you, Andy. Like, Noah Fant is still very interesting to me. It was 3 for 14. That was against Buffalo. We talked about how that matchup has been horrifically bad for tight ends all year long. And Noah Fant is still getting targets. So I would hold on to Noah Fan, much like I'm holding on. He's got a 25% target share since Sanders left. Much like I'm holding on a Jacob Hollister.
I'm still holding on no offense. Now, more than any of these guys. Ryan Griffin. Well, sure. Ryan Griffin is absolutely someone that should be rostered and in there. The schedule for Darnold, the Jets offense getting rolling. Ryan Griffin is absolutely in there. I would agree with that. More than anyone other than Ryan Griffin that I think needs to be brought up because he had a horrendous game, but kind of not really.
is Dallas Goddard. Dallas Goddard had eight targets again. Yeah, he ended up with 32 yards and a fumble. So for fantasy, it was horrific. Sure. But the targets have been there. The offense is, you know, I think good enough, especially this week against Miami, where I would stay with Dallas Goddard. I'm not going to just be so mad at the bad fantasy week. This is that Hollister situation. You know, I would.
I just believe that the talent, the targets, the matchup, they're all there for Dallas Goddard this week. And as I always say, you always have the potential when he's on your roster to end up with a super elite tight end should something happen as accurate. I would order these guys, Jacob Hollister, but again, he's probably not in your waiver wire pool. Then I would go Goddard, Griffin, Fant Doyle.
Of the guys we've been talking about. Yeah, I would go Hollister, Griffin, Goddard, Fant. Griffin's matchups against the Bengals in Miami are pretty juicy. Yeah, and he's less owned than Dallas Goddard right now. I think both those guys are, they have the opportunity to be a focal point in these upcoming weeks. Anybody else who want to talk to it tight in? No. Talk to talk about any of those things? I would rather talk to them than talk about them. All right. Full stream ahead.
All right, quarterback streamer time. Boy. I've got two. Yeah. You have two streamers. I have two streamers. Uh, all right. Well, let me, let me get this out of the way because it's not going to be easy to say. Okay. My streaming quarterback is... Yeah, Ducey. Jared Gert. You know, part of streaming a quarterback is not burying your team, which has not been how you associate.
Jared Goff, but I don't know how he doesn't put up 20 fantasy points against Arizona this week. Arizona has given up the two greatest weeks for Jimmy Garoppelo. You have a healthy Robert Woods, Cooper Cup, and Brandon Cooks, and the Cardinals couldn't guard one of them, much less all three. I just don't understand how that doesn't happen. There's only two weeks that the Cardinals have not given up a top 10 option. It just makes Jared Goff a...
Put them in your lineup. If you need a streamer, your opponent will think that you've done them a favor, and then Goff will have a good week. Yeah, and look, Jimmy Smith, Marcus Peters, you know, there are so many great secondary players for the Ravens. That's what Jared Goff just played. There are not those for the Cardinals. And this is not going to be the same. This is not Andy saying the Rams are back, and they're going to be this unbelievable offense.
But the Cardinals can't stop what the Rams currently have as far as on that side of the ball. I'm going to follow that up with a very, very similar option. Someone that sucked this last week and has super disappointed this year was Carson wins as one of my two. The Eagles dropped Jordan Matthews. This is a great indication that either Alshon Jeffrey...
and or Nelson Aguilor could both be back and healthy. And while the Eagles aren't what we hoped that they were, this is the Dolphins matchup. And they're not going to have a bad offensive game, assuming that Alshan, this is predicated on Alshan being back. But if Alshan is out there against the dolphins with Lane Johnson back now, I believe that you're absolutely fine with Carson Wentz. So yes, you can have the floor, Andy.
I don't need the floor. I just need to talk to you as a friend. I would just be afraid. I would be a little bit afraid of Wince than of golf. I would. Okay, tell me why. Because I don't want to mess with what I saw last week from Carson Wince. You don't know Alshan's back. He's dealing with an injury to his hand, which could, you know, further complicate the potential. I just, I'm a little bit gun shy.
On that side, I have this decision to make in Listener League, the Carson Wins decision. And, you know, I would be trying to find another option until I can't, I suppose. I mean, are you...
If Alshan's out, do you change your opinion? Yes, yes. So just one player. One player makes a difference. He needs a, yeah, it's more than one player because you have secondary wide receivers already injured. You need a wide receiver one, and he is that. So if Alshan is back and Lane Johnson is there to help protect him against the dolphins, I do think that you're going to be absolutely fine. Now, the hand, the hand is legit. Obviously, if Wince is missing practices.
Whatever, but I think Carson Wins is fine. If you are opposed to that, my other streaming candidate. Yeah, I wouldn't play Wins. So you're both on the anti-Wince. Yes. Against Miami. This is an anti-Wens take, man. He's been horrifically bad. I know he's been terrible. But look at the four matchups and then the fact that this weekend, no Lane Johnson, no Nelson Aguilar, no Alshon Jeffrey. I mean...
What do you want when to do? He still turned the ball over four times. And he's been in plus matchups before earlier in the season and didn't get it done. He played Atlanta week to when you could play literally anyone. You could play Jared Goff against Atlanta. He put up 231 and one with two interceptions against at that time, which was the worst past defense in the NFL. I'm not saying he was he was the quarterback 10 that week. So look deeper. Because he had a, okay, he had a rushing touch. Right, which which.
really matters. He was a top 10 quarterback. That's a bad dig in though because we're not saying that he can't have a good weekend against Miami. I think we're saying where do you want to put the hopes and dreams of your season? Do you want to put it on maybe the worst quarterback performance of the week with a team that's dealing with injuries for turnovers, a hurt hand? It's just risk aversion. Yes. It's not that he can't dominate Miami. It could happen.
But he didn't dominate Atlanta. He finished 10th, and he had to do a rushing, he had to have a rushing touchdown to get to 10th. So it's just risk. You can do what you want. Sure. The hand is an issue. If he's missing practice, okay. But I believe. I'm told that hands are important for a quarterback. Yes. If I don't know. If I've never been out there, I think that you can absolutely play him against the Miami Dolphins, who are the third worst against quarterback. Everybody has beat them. You know, that was Josh Allen's big monster game. Baker, how'd he look?
freaking fantastic. So that, that's my thought. On the other side. How's Brian Hoyer look? Okay, fair. Was Baker targeting Jordan. Brian Hoyer had a bad game. Well, Carson wins can't target Jordan Matthews. You mean the guy they just cut because their wide receivers are coming back. Oh, gosh.
What do you mean? That's what happened. They got so bad that they had to run Jordan Matthews out there. Exactly. And now they said, oh, thank goodness. We can cut him not for no reason, but because the boys are back in town. Oh, give me a break. All right. Let's talk about someone that maybe you'll agree with. I don't know. Ryan Tannahill last week's, unfortunately, number two quarterback. Thanks, Lamar.
has been great. In fact, a little stat here from J.J. Zachary is a good friend of the show. Since Ryan Tannahill became the starter, here is a list of players who have averaged more fantasy points per game. Number one, Lamar Jackson. End of list. That it is Ryan Tannahill. He has not had in six-point scoring formats less than 24 fantasy points in a game.
I don't love the match up here against Indianapolis. And I don't expect what we saw this last week to be in the realm of outcomes as in like a number two quarterback. But I think he's pretty safe. He's got options. Ryan, Ryan Tannenhill, I'm not going to disagree with you. He was my streamer before I changed him to golf. So I'm fully on board.
What's interesting is he's averaging like 40 rushing yards a game and he scored three times on the ground. So he gives you a little bit more of a baseline than you believe you have with the average quarterback. There's no reason you can't stream tanale 100% on board with you there. What if he breaks his hand? Well, yeah, I'll be a little more out. Okay.
A little. Or if, how about this? You replace his left tackle and then all his receivers with like Jordan Matthews, then I'll be more out. But that's my point. His left tackle is in it. Jordan Matthews is gone. We're speaking the same language, but not at all. Whenever you're on the razor's edge of playing a Jordan Matthews capable depth option as your focal point of an offense, you have risk. That's all we're saying. Do you acknowledge that there is tremendous risk, Carson Wins?
Only with the hand. Oh, gosh. Mike. All right. I'm going to watch him burn this week. I'm going to play Sam Darnold. Yes. Against the Bengals. Yeah, you have the best option. Yes. Fookland, we saved the best for last. If you have the choice between everyone mentioned, go Sam Darnold. Yeah, I'm going to Sam Darnold. It has been turning it on. Lately, he's been a top option three weeks in a row. The Bengals really, really stink.
So this one's just easy. Sam Darnold is a great streamer this week. Defense versus offense. Presented by Head and Shoulders and Walmart. All right. Defensive options, here's where I can get behind an eagle or a bunch of them. The defense last week for the Philadelphia Eagles deserved better than what they got from Carson Wins. They played a very dangerous Seattle offense.
They stifled Russell. They stifled Lockett. They are playing at a high level. They need a win. They have an opportunity to win that division still. Their schedule is a cakewalk. Dallas's schedule is difficult. Philadelphia plays Miami. Turnovers, opportunity. I'd play Philadelphia's defense. They're only 40% on. They're a great streaming option this week. Yeah, because Miami's so bad.
There's only one week that a defense. Carson wins can play on the defense. That's fine. There's only one week a defense against Miami has not been a top 12 option. And that's week 10 when the Colts were 13th. So yes. Ryan Fitzpatrick is, he's playing fun football and pretty playing pretty decent. But he still gets sacked and turns the ball over. My streamer, it's Carolina.
Because they're playing Washington. Your is my favorite of the whole week, man. You've got the best streamers today, Mike. Well, I told you. He got him in before we did. When you're the first one into the show, Doc, you get the best match. He left you with wins. And when I say Carolina is playing against Washington, let me clarify that. Carolina will be playing against Dwayne.
