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Mock Draft Time! + Data vs. Data, Pool Party - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/19

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Mock Draft Time! + Data vs. Data, Pool Party - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/19

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there is a negative cost to your team there when it comes to your waiver transactions, even trading. If you've got an IR spot in your league, then you just throw him there after the draft and you've opened up a roster spot. Well, we don't have to think about it because he went two picks after our Tyler Lockett selection. It went Lockett Thiel and Michael Thomas, Ayuk, and Gallaudet. So five wide receivers in a row. Russ at the end of the fifth round, Edmonds, Chase. Oh, it's like saying his name backwards, but.

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Chase Edmonds, then Jamar Chase. Thomas Jefferson? Justin Herbert, Mike Davis, and Melvin Gordon. Thomas Jefferson was selected in the third round already. Heck of a PPR option. Yes. From the presidential position. Great hands. Especially with a quill. Yeah, my goodness. Which he used for his contract. Stop making Jefferson jokes. All right. We took a locket. So our team right now, Zeke, Mixin, and Daryl Henderson.

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powerhouse running back room, and then Robinson and Lockett at wide receiver. This has gone well. There's also another pick here that I think is really interesting. We're on the clock again. You've got wide receivers. You've got Claypool. Mike loves Chase Claypool. Looks like he's going to be healthy and happy and everything's all right there. You've got... That would be an auto pick for me here. Claypool would be an auto pick for you. We need wide receiver. Okay.

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And so I can see that. Just saying so. Javante Williams-O is another player you love. Yeah. And because we have the luxury of already having three running backs, do you look at him at all here or do you, is it just Claypool? Because of how we have built this team, I would go Claypool. But Javante is a very interesting player right here. Jason, any other considerations here? Do you want to just?

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Um, placate Mike with, uh, Chase Claypool. I would like to do no such thing. I would like to placate myself with Chase Claypool. Oh. I, I, I, I really like, I really like the talent. Uh, I feel like you almost looked around for an audience. Yeah. That's, uh, nice pool party. I, I felt great about the thought and the execution. It's outstanding. But the year two wide receiver with the talent with what we saw, uh, in year one. Also keep in mind that Chase just had a big discussion about these.

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these wide receivers these trips these trips is that what you said yeah as in the three wide receivers but again i'm not going to argue with the data at all because that's that's what the trends have been but if but a team that would have done it last year it would have been the pittsburgh don't you love it when data meets data in a in a battle in a coliseum because like from the wide receiver tube

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Breakout age versus the three wide receiver ADP. I mean, these things. Something's got to give. These things are just nuggets of knowledge that we use in our, in our arsenal. It's not a guarantee of anything. It's just more information. And the breakout potential here for Claypool definitely exists. Our wide receiver three, I'm thrilled with that. I did. We did confirm that Tyler Lockett is featured on groin index. Oh, thank goodness. With a quote of, ah, my groin. Okay, good. To be expected. That's.

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what he said. Yeah. Well, guys, I'm kind of having a hard time over here. It's a sad day. We're in a mock draft. Okay. We're in the seventh round, and I'm afraid that I'm seeing some of the future. But Tom Brady's gone. And so is Aaron Rogers, Dak, Prescott, Jalen Hurts, and Matthew Stafford. So five quarterbacks between our sixth round pick and seventh round selection. Brady is not even waiting for the eighth round here.

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He's been selected at the very tippy top of the seventh. Here's my, the hope that I can bring to that is looking through the grid, which we didn't do this one as a top 10 tips and tricks this year. But we have brought up, make sure you're paying attention. The grid format of the draft is that's the easiest way to see what is going on. And every team has a quarterback. That's not.

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That's not a guarantee that someone won't take a second quarterback, but currently each team already has their QB1 and Mr. Tannahill, our other late round champion, is still there. So don't draft him here. Personally, I would not take him there. I mean, if you are, if you got the shakes and you're like, I don't want to miss out on this quarterback, okay, it's the seventh round. That's fine. But I think at the opportunity cost, you could, you could bet.

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At Taney Hill will come back. I would completely do that. And especially in your real drafts, your live drafts, this is a mock draft against ADP. It's possible that the computer would take a second quarterback here. It's more of a gamble here than in your real draft. I don't think. People are crazy in home draft. Sure, people can't get crazy. But I would certainly look at that, say every team has a quarterback. We're not going to push the envelope and draft one here. We'll wait. There is a super clear pick to me right here.

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I want the first running back off the board from the team that had the most rushing yards in all of football by a wide margin last year. People are afraid of him. 1,889 yards. That is what the San Francisco 49ers ran for last year. He is clearly atop the depth chart. Injuries be darned. Wait, how many yards did you say they ran for? 1,000.

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889 yards. Okay. Perfect. So we're taking Trey Sermon. Why would you say that? He said that to get under your skin. Yeah, mostly for that for the troll. Middle of the seventh round. You just talked about Miles Sanders value in the middle of the fourth round. Rahim Moster is sitting there in the late seventh round with no respect. I am concerned about Rahim Moster. I'm concerned what his true role actually is. And Trey Sermin

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We're only one preseason game in, but Trace Sermon was the guy. I mean, he has climbed the depth chart to be. Ooster wasn't playing. I know, I know. I'm saying he's climbed the depth chart over the other guys who are there. And it's the way that San Francisco, yeah, the incredible rushing team. But when all the guys are healthy, they all have a very specific role. And the talk out of San Francisco is that Trace Sermon will be the Tevin Coleman role.

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And we don't know exactly what, how completely valuable that role will be because the Coleman role was always Coleman being injured. But it could work out that Moster is just the 20s guy. And then Trey Sermon is the goal line guy. That has been proven that Shanahan prefers to go to somebody else when he comes to the goal line. My name is Jeff Wilson.

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was the, would take those snaps over Rahim most when all were healthy. I need to correct something I said earlier. I think I misspoke when I was talking about the total rushing yards in San Francisco. They're not at the tippy top of that list. I had sorted a chart incorrectly. Oh, say Derek Henry has 2000. I wanted to correct that and Jason noticed it but didn't call me out for some reason as though the stats wouldn't tell the truth. I got us to get there. You got a Robert Frost him on that one. But again, I think.

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last year you spent, I mean, you talked about it yesterday, what Jeff Wilson represented, stepping into that role. We don't have to take Mostert here, but that would be my vote. That's my, I'm concerned about Moster. So I do understand the concerns over Trey Sermon. That's the drumbeat. That's the hype.

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that does not get in the way of me believing that Rahim Moster is going to be very valuable for fantasy. I 100% expect him to be the starter and to be great when he's out there. He's a guy that needs 10 or 12 touches to take something to the house. He's not a running back that is going to get 20 or needs 20 touches to be valuable. So I am 100% fine taking Rahim Moster here. Would you be taking Damien Harris ahead of Rahim Moster, Mike? Because I doubt you would do that.

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Let me check my... I would not. Let me check my projections. While you're checking that, let me just bring up the tight end position real quick. There are about four teams that don't have their tight end yet. Three of them are on this turn. So there will be three times or six times before we pick again that an opportunity for a team that does not yet have a tight end to draft the tight end. Right now there's Robert Tunyon, Tyler Higby.

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basically two tight ends I kind of really like left, but they are lower in the ADP. Dallas Goddard will go ahead, no, a fan will go ahead. So we could still play the game, but it's worth, this is the part of the draft where I'm trying to, I'm trying to calculate and judge where do I want to take Tunyon or Tyler Higby. I do have Harris ranked above Mosterds. Who do you want to take here? I mean, I will, I initiated the pool party, so I was kind of backing off here. I would.

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Debo, Robbie Anderson, still there. Jerry Judy, Devonta Smith. Debo is interesting here as your wide receiver four. And because it would be, we're fully balanced. Thanos approves of this team. But because we have three running backs already, I would be gearing up for, you know, a little bit further along in the season. You know, those, not necessarily those first four games, but maybe after that we're.

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Trace Sermon has established himself and can take the job. So if you want a San Francisco running back here, I would take Trace Sermon. But if it were my team alone, I would take Damien Harris. And I think Andy and I are probably very close to each other here. You take Moster. Then take Moster. All right. Doafant next. Goddard. Jason, you just said it. You were going to see some tight ends start to go. Damien Harris, Robbie Anderson, Juju, Jerry Judy, Debo, Cooks, David Johnson.

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and Devanta Smith. Oh, Smith would have been a... We're back on the clock. Delightful pick here. You could look back at the wide receiver position here. You've got Tyler Boyd. You've got Curtis Samuel, a favorite of Jason's. You could take a shot with Antonio Brown later in this draft. We don't have one of those Tampa Bay whiteouts, although it's a... He got thrown out of practice today. Not sure how you feel about that. I'm not worried about it. You still have... I've not seen that. You could go Robert Tunyon. Last year's tied in three.

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You could get your tight end out of the way. Who do you guys have higher, Tunyon or Higby? Higby. Yeah, I do as well. I think I have Tunian by just like a spot or two. A quarterback, you do have Tannahill, Mike. Is this the part where you grab your favorite late round target? Because beyond Tannahill here, you're going to have a quarterback that is Lawrence, Ryan, Fitzpatrick. I'm really, I'm comfortable taking Tanny here. I'm fine taking Ryan Tanyhill here. I'm also.

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find, I mean, I guess even if I draft Tanyhill, I would probably still be doing the rookie strategy where I'm taking Trey Lance or Justin Fields at the end. If you miss Ryan Tannenhill, I think you could still get some production from Lawrence or Fitzpatrick or Cousins while you wait on one of the,

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the rookie quarterbacks. Yeah, it's ironic. If this was a real draft, not a mock draft against computer, I think you're right, maybe pairing one of those rookies with Fitzpatrick, something like that I'd be fine with. I'd also be ironically more comfortable bypassing on Ryan Tannahill because I don't believe in most of the leagues I would play in that someone would be grabbing their second quarterback this early, certainly not to get Ryan Tannahill. If they grabbed a second, it would be one of those shots on the rookies.

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But now, Ryan Tannahill is a quarterback. I would like to leave this draft with. He is the last of the kind of tier of quarterbacks I'm looking to leave with. So that would be my pick right now. All right. We'll take him. Ryan Tannahill with our eighth round selection. Zeke Mixin, Henderson and Mostert at running back. Alan Robinson, Tyler Lockett, Chase Claypool at wide receiver. Coming around into the ninth round, my eyeballs are on the wide receiver position, maybe finding another.

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depth piece there. Robert Tunyon did go. So you could be looking tight end here. If Higbee is in that next tier where there's nobody left in that tier, you might have to go Higby here. The two teams at the edge of the draft are without tight end.

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So maybe we just get the tight end. We want to leave the draft with here over a wide receiver selection like Pittman, Antonio Brown. Antonio Brown or Pittman. Those are the two guys I would be between here at wide receiver. But with one tight end left that I really want, four picks from teams on that turn that are in need of a tight end. Yeah, grab the guy that you want. And this is great because we waited until late in the draft. And we got Tana Hill and Higby, which I think is a great tight end quarterback.

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pairing and now we can focus on some of those wide receivers. So we took Higbee and two more tight ends did go after we took Higby so it was probably the right pick. Logan Thomas and Gisicki both went. Three running backs, AJ Dillon, James Connor and Singletary went in this run. No more Antonio Brown available.

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