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Mock Draft Time! + Data vs. Data, Pool Party - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/19

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Mock Draft Time! + Data vs. Data, Pool Party - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/19

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true three-down workhorse type running backs on our roster. My heart, I'll tell you this, Mike. My heart wanted to take nausea there. Oh, okay. Because of the, and this is what happens with young star players. You just, you know, any fatigue or any of those bad emotions we talked about on the tips and tricks show with Joe Mixing, like somehow I believe in Joe, but sometimes I don't want to draft them. Sometimes I want to draft Najee or I want to draft Gibson and see the infinite upside. Before we move on to our next pick.

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Hey, Dobbins. Darren Waller at 301, McClain, and then Kittle at 303. So we will not have one of the top three tight ends in this draft. They're gone. Keenan Allen, or AJ Brown, and David Mopportunity. Yeah, and really, David Montgomery would have been the last running back. You know, we were choosing, do we want to go, well, we like the running backs left in this round when we're, if we go wide receiver in the previous round. And Montgomery fits that bill for me.

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But after him, we would have been selecting our running back two out of Chris Carson, Josh Jacobs, Dandre Swift, Miles Sanders. Like, personally, I am not about those guys. Like, I'm not in love with those players by comparison to C.D. Lamb and Alan Robinson and some of the wide receivers that are available here. Mike, where's your head here? What do you want to do with this pick? We've got, like he said, Robinson, Lamb, you got Evans, you've got Godwin, Cooper.

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DJ Moore. At the running back position, I would be open to Chris Carson. I have him slotted one spot ahead of David Montgomery. I believe that Chris Carson will be the leader of the Seahawks after receiving the bag. And they're a high-scoring run first offense. So Chris Carson is interesting here. And then over at the wide receiver position, he's at the top of the ADP for a reason. And it's Alan Robinson who's just.

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a real solid wide receiver won for your team. It doesn't feel like top five is in the range of outcomes for Robinson. I won't say it's impossible because he certainly has the talent. Maybe Andy Dalton, he says it's his time. Oh, gosh, you see that? Oh, yeah. That's cute. Justin Fields. Good for you, Dalton. Justin Fields is going to have his time in a great career, but this is my time. Good for you, Dalton. And you're right.

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This is your time. Claim it quickly. It is going to be gone soon. It will be bedtime. Very soon. But maybe Andy Dalton is solid for a couple stretch or that the move happens to, what did I say? For a couple of games? Oh, for a couple games for a stretch of games. Or maybe we move over to Justice Fields and he's as advertised. And then Alan Robinson's ceiling does move up.

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But for a wide receiver one, that's where I would be going. Yeah, Alan Robinson has been a back-to-back top 12 wide receiver. He's been a fantasy wide receiver one. He is my wide receiver right now. That would be my personal pick. And when you're grabbing your first wide receiver in the third round, it's very nice to have a guy who's going to be north of 150 targets. Is that where we're going? Yeah, because the other names like Evans. Evans is going to be solid, but he's got some questions. We just talked about the three wide receiver.

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conundrum, Godwin, Seedy Lamb. I mean, these guys all... To me, it's between C.D. Lamb and Alan Robinson. Yeah. So we'll take Robinson here. So you're to the point where you are comfortable C.D. Lamb being your wide receiver one in the draft. I am comfortable with that. Again, I took Alan Robinson here because I'm even more comfortable with 150 guaranteed targets, but... You also would have stacked Zeke and Lamb.

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Right. You take a landing there. Yeah, that's something to consider another tiebreaker reason to go Alan Robinson's way. After Robinson comes Jacobs, Evans, Swift, Allen, and Lamb finishing the third round. Julio at the top of the fourth with Carson, Cooper, Murray, and Miles Sanders. I do think that the dip on Miles Sanders may be a little too exaggerated in the fantasy world right now. Fourth round is.

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That's solid. That's a lot of value for Miles. That's what I mean. I think that, you know, it's very clear from, like, he's still the guy in Philly. They're going to share the load, but he's still the guy at the top of that depth chart. Yeah, I totally agree. The biggest question for Miles Sanders comes down to what about the passing game. You know, yesterday's show the value of a touch is, I mean.

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a reception is worth almost 3x what a rushing attempt is in a half point scoring format. That doesn't even factor in what it's worth in a PPR. But last year, he had the drops ranked out, I believe, as the worst pass catching running back per pro football focus. You have Boston Scott still established as a top level, third down, scat back, satellite back. They draft Kenneth Gainwell.

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So that's my concern for Miles Sanders, just that the ceiling is not truly there, but for the guy number one on the depth chart, the fourth round is fine. I really like what happened here with the players that came back to us in the fourth round because there are two, and you guys can maybe debate which one you'd rather take, two that I love here. One of them is Chris Godwin. Chris Godwin in the middle of the fourth round.

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I think he has such great potential with Tom Brady this season. Last year was hijacked by injury. This is a player that's finished in the top. He's number two overall two years ago. I'll give you some breaking news right now. He's not a my guy on tomorrow's episode, but he's as close as you could have gotten to a my guy because of the price to value ratio for me on Chris Godwin. So I'd love to pair, like Robinson Godwin. Talk about incredible target numbers.

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and reception guys to go with Zeke and Mixin. Or, or you go and you look at the running back room. Oh, I wonder for seemsies. And you say Daryl Henderson, who I somehow have higher than both of you guys after I've.

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reappropriated my mind to that backfield and what that team's going to do. But Henderson has real top 15 upside in the middle of the fourth round. Yes, he does. Jason, where are you on Henderson? I, Henderson is like the only guy in these middle rounds who I love at running back because he is undervalued. He's someone that is a pretty much guaranteed to be a top 20 running back. We have to take him. And I'm fine with that. Personally,

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The wide receiver I would have looked at would have been Tyler Lockett here. I think the boom nature mixed with Alan Robinson's consistency is phenomenal. But if you are grabbing three running backs in the top four rounds, it allows you to really. You might get Lockett next round. You could. You could. Oh, man. Oh, man. That would be. Let's follow along. I'd be hot and bothered. The glasses would fog up. Yeah, no, I'm 100% fine taking Daryl Henderson here. Now that you've started three out of.

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your first four picks running back, you really want to focus on grabbing a lot of shots at wide receiver. And Darrell Henderson, the only reason that Darrell Henderson, to me, is here in this running back dead zone where generally, you know, it can be sketchy grabbing, drafting a running back here. But because of the timing of the KMakers injury, the, he hasn't had a chance to establish himself in ADP and become like,

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The guy for the Rams. And Jason. Oh, brother. Keep it safe for work. Yeah. Oh, man. So we took Daryl Henderson and then Jason watched the screen. Godwin, Lamar, Woods, E.T.N, Cup, Gaskin. Oh, none of those are named Tyler Lockett. Oh, but you know who is? Fifth round. Tyler Lockett.

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DJ Moore, Kyle Pitts, Deontte Johnson, Kreme Hunt, Andrews, and Hawkinson. The tight end run happened. And because it happened with Pitts, Andrews Hawkinson, the next tier, Tyler Lockett's sitting here in the middle of the fifth round. It's really funny. And I assume we're taking him? Yes. I'm going to bring up another name though. Okay. While you do that, I'll just describe real quick. I really like T.J. Hawkinson. I believe he's going to break out this year. But I haven't had him in many drafts because.

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really because of the value of Tyler Lockett. They go so near each other in each draft. And if I'm one spot ahead of them, then great, I'm taking Tyler Lockett. But here I'm one spot behind him. And great, I'm taking Tyler Lockett because they took Hawkinson. Now, Tyler Lockett does currently, I mean, growing index.com. The website is so substantial. I believe that Lockett is featured right now. I'm not, I mean, he should be.

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On the groin index. On the groin index. But it's minor. It's not the groin. No, no, no, no. It's just groin index. Yes. Dot com. You got to start with the groin. Starts and ends with the groin always. I'm not concerned. No, not right now. I would draft them as normal. However, however. Okay, let's hear this other name. Michael Thomas. When do you start to, because this is an important discussion. When do you start to think about Michael Thomas for?

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your fantasy draft. Would you think about it in the sixth round? I think it depends on your roster. So for instance, we only have one wide receiver. This is a locked in necessary week one starter. If we had the luxury of saying, okay, you know, as soon as I'm putting Michael Thomas on my bench, I'm fine to take that shot. And I would much, much, much rather do it in a league that has an IR slot so that I can draft them. Because when he's taking up a bench spot, that is a

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